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  • FROM THE ARCHIVES -- JULY 20, 1969: Robert Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke discuss the Apollo 11 mission and the future of the space program with Walter Cronkite.

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  • @chrisjohnston4445
    @chrisjohnston4445 2 роки тому +48

    I've read Heinlein all my life, but this was my first time hearing his voice.

    • @jacob_swaggerz
      @jacob_swaggerz Рік тому +3

      What should I read if his works?

    • @chrisjohnston4445
      @chrisjohnston4445 Рік тому +3

      @@jacob_swaggerz I've been reading him since I was a little kid, so I couldn't pick just one.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein_bibliography

    • @NoelStalker
      @NoelStalker 19 днів тому

      same here

    • @NoelStalker
      @NoelStalker 19 днів тому

      @@jacob_swaggerz Stranger in a Strange Land, Time Enough for Love, Have Spacesuit Will Travel

    • @timlong9913
      @timlong9913 Годину тому

      @@jacob_swaggerz The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is my favorite of his.

  • @crystalrobot01
    @crystalrobot01 5 років тому +114

    Here we have , two of the top three greatest science fiction writers of all time, and here I am, a person born in the 60s in a non English-speaking country and here is 2019, and I salute these two masters whilst I finish a novel writen by one of them.

  • @Aeroprism
    @Aeroprism 5 років тому +48

    This all happened seven years before I was born. I feel extremely grateful for the privilege of watching this. Robert Heinlein is a hero of mine and to finally hear his voice, speaking about such a beautiful dream, it brought me to tears.

    • @jhentai0316
      @jhentai0316 4 роки тому +2

      yeah, the first time i've heard him speak! very cool!

    • @willong1000
      @willong1000 3 роки тому +4

      Aeroprism, Heinlein stories ignited my passion for true science fiction (as contrasted to space opera and fantasy) more than a decade before the moon landing, which I watched live on a B&W television. Somewhere among my cluttered possessions resides a box of 35mm slides that I shot of the TV screen to commemorate that stupendous event, such technology as home video recording not having yet been developed by that date.
      I hope to similarly view the first human set foot on Mars before I buy the farm, for the event is long overdue!
      May you live long enough to witness the first ship departure bearing human beings beyond the Solar System.

  • @kellyfugate9692
    @kellyfugate9692 3 роки тому +20

    There is so much optimism in this interview! I can't believe this is the first time I've heard these men speak

  • @willong1000
    @willong1000 3 роки тому +22

    I find it quite interesting how Robert Heinlein used that phrase of "one step" mere minutes before Neil Armstrong would make his immortal "One small step..." utterance as he descended to the lunar surface.

    • @mmalandsbirdies4012
      @mmalandsbirdies4012 2 роки тому

      Will Long.
      I was wondering if anyone else caught that ...while reading comments your the only 1.
      Iv find so far. Who caught the 1step slip outta his mouth.
      After listening to RAH books I'm convinced they (nasa) copied his books all the names all terminology of words from his books to be used for so-called space exploration. *SMH*
      Now that I am awake, cleared all fluoride out of my life which calcifies the pineal gland some call it the 3rd. eye. I've noticed a huge difference in my life. I'm no longer a zombie...
      When I heard him say 1 step I stopped the vid with jaw dropped and said Wait a min. now we know who wrote the 1liner for Armstrong.. did u notice he caught himself and change the sentence. he knows he let that slip out of the bag or maybe it was done deliberate to see who's paid attention. Ether way this explains why Neil Armstrong never did interviews. He would have fell on his face w/ the lies.
      . Armstrong's behavior after moon landing never passed the smell test. the man who stepped on the moon won't do interviews,🤯 O ok 🤔
      Well to you great CATCH glad I'm not the only one listen... 🙋

    • @tigershark7155
      @tigershark7155 2 роки тому +1

      He was a visionary! That and Neil probably asked him to write a line he could say. 🤣
      and this was probably Roberts nod to the person who wrote it

    • @SteveDeHaven
      @SteveDeHaven 2 роки тому +2

      Almost as if Heinlein had SCRIPTED that line for Armstrong, who subsequently blew it.

    • @willong1000
      @willong1000 2 роки тому +1

      @@SteveDeHaven Regarding: "...line for Armstrong, who subsequently blew it." Are you referring to a dropped article?

    • @titus2120
      @titus2120 10 місяців тому

      Papa was always a step or two ahead of everyone. Always…

  • @viviennekaye5284
    @viviennekaye5284 5 років тому +30

    People who were famous for actually doing something, something they accomplished. So much different to today.

  • @PC4USE1
    @PC4USE1 3 роки тому +32

    If we had Isaac Asimov,we would have the 'holy trinity" non caps. of Science Fiction Writers of my youth.

    • @johnking6252
      @johnking6252 3 місяці тому +1

      Bradbury not excluded of course? 👍

  • @nobodyknew
    @nobodyknew 5 років тому +31

    I am so grateful this footage still exists for me to watch 50 years later and that humanity didn't decide to discard it from record. Listen to the passion in Heinlein's voice...I almost believe his prophecy, despite knowing what we now know about space travel...

    • @jsl151850b
      @jsl151850b Рік тому +2

      I was 16 or so at the time and there were hours of clips shown before the landing. I hope it isn't all lost.
      I think one segment may have been a model railroad that showed how the Lunar Module separated from the S1B and docked with the Command Module.

  • @valentinemichaelsmith5051
    @valentinemichaelsmith5051 3 роки тому +16

    I still remember my first Heinlein Book , it was Farnham's Freehold . Iam surprised that it has not been banned by the modern day book burners

  • @northernbohemianrealist1412
    @northernbohemianrealist1412 7 років тому +110

    This is what news presentations used to look like. They treated the viewers as intelligent adults.
    This would never make it to air today. Where's the leggy blonde? The swishes and swoops terminating with a deep chime? The moving background? The crawler with 'news' about Tom Cruise? Amazing how Cronkite could get an audience without calling his guests 'pinheads' or 'loons.'

    • @travisdillon8460
      @travisdillon8460 5 років тому +13

      Robert A Heinlein probably would have preferred to be interviewed by a leggy blonde.

    • @dantean
      @dantean 5 років тому +2

      Ever hear of the News Hour on PBS?
      I grew up on Walter, too, but to get weepy over it just because the THE BIG THREE U.S. NETWORK EVENING NEWS PROGRAMS are about bells and whistles (whistles directed at leggy blondes) while nearly a million other outlets exist we didn't have in 1969 where one can get serious news, seriously and soberly presented (familiar with the BBC?) is a little off base for me. Besides, what you seem to be comparing are Cronkite (and Huntley/Brinkley and others of the period) to LOCAL news shows, rather even than, say, the 7 pm time slot (EST) he would occupy today, where it's not as Tom Cruise-y and blonde leggy as the obvious bubble gum presented locally at 6 pm (again, EST). I mean, I appreciate your point, but you can still have today what we see here a thousand times over, thanks to the internet and satellite technology. An availability actually profoundly RESPONSIBLE for the Mickey Mouse-ification of the more expensive of the television news programs. It's either T&A or get ALL your news off a smart phone. And, by the way, they COULD have been interviewing Harvard or Cambridge University physicists rather than writers of popular fiction, but I'm thinking a choice was made we would be hard-pressed to prove had NOTHING to do with show business, right?

    • @johnshilling2221
      @johnshilling2221 4 роки тому +6

      @@dantean You make a well-reasoned and thoughtful presentation. Why did you have to ruin it by mentioning the BBC as a "serious news" network?

    • @icemaglite
      @icemaglite 4 роки тому +1

      @@johnshilling2221 my thoughts exactly. Before our eyes, the mainstream media is being exposed as an arm of the intelligence services.

    • @bessarion1771
      @bessarion1771 4 роки тому +4

      @@icemaglite More like DNC and Silicon Valley.

  • @guilhermesilveira5254
    @guilhermesilveira5254 3 роки тому +15

    Classic interview with Clarke. Cronkite was an excelent tv host.

  • @TedBronson1918
    @TedBronson1918 6 років тому +25

    Damn! I remember this interview! I watched it as a kid, before I ever read a book by either of them. Heinlein is now at the top of my list of favorite writers with Sam Clemens (Mark Twain), and Clarke isn't far behind. I used to watch CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite every day. I wasn't at all surprised when he was voted to be the most trusted man in America a little later. Cronkite did excellent coverage of the moon landing.

    • @veralenora4033
      @veralenora4033 4 роки тому +3

      Cronkite wept, when the moon landing happened. Tears of joy, excitement, disbelief made belief.
      For those who still think the moon landing was faked, "Mythbusters" did 2 episodes examining the "evidence" of the nonbelievers and blew them out of the water.
      Retired librarian, Michigan

    • @bnic9471
      @bnic9471 4 роки тому +1

      I remember watching the moon landing, but not this interview; I was only 4. It would be 6 years before I'd read anything by Mr. Heinlein.

    • @TedBronson1918
      @TedBronson1918 4 роки тому +2

      @@bnic9471 lol. I was 7, but I was glued to our TV every night for CBS news and for anything that had to do with Apollo or spaceflight. The networks and NASA did a great job of teaching people about the missions and craft back then, and coverage of the moonshots was excellent. I remember watching this interview, but I wanted it to end and get back to the rockets and exciting stuff. Such is the mind of a 7 yr old.

  • @johnshilling2221
    @johnshilling2221 4 роки тому +8

    Boy, does this bring back the memories. Study hall, in junior high school, Clarkston, Michigan. For the first time that I was aware of, a teacher brought a television into our study hall to watch the moon landings. No one was required to attend any classes. We were all there! Even though, none of us were there! It was a time when communications between continents via satellite was still a technological miracle. Nothing seemed impossible, even if the "Rise of the Nerds" was yet to be imagined. The transistor radio --- powered by batteries --- was still so new that only a few students owned one. (I Want to Hold Your Hand, by the Beatles --- played on the school bus) It all seems so tame, now....

  • @andrewh2u
    @andrewh2u 3 місяці тому +1

    Amazing interviews - these are historic.

  • @davidwenner8537
    @davidwenner8537 Рік тому +7

    What a shame that this momentous achievement did not inspire us to press forward as these men envisioned - at least not yet. Never underestimate cowardice of politicians or the corrosiveness of bureaucrats.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 Рік тому +3

      It was doomed to be thus, even then. Apollo was about sticking it to the Russians first, and scientific exploration came a very poor second.
      Remember that anorthosite “Genesis Rock” from Apollo 16? They found it because they were looking for something like it. And they were only looking because they had been trained to. On prior missions, they were just going round picking up any old rocks.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 Рік тому

      🙌 👏 🙏 🤝

  • @thebeermaster34
    @thebeermaster34 6 років тому +57

    As brilliant as these men were, they could never see the Kardashian complex that would come to infect our culture

    • @travisdillon8460
      @travisdillon8460 5 років тому +9

      Heinlein wrote quite a bit about the ascendance of vapid celebrities.

    • @johndurrett3573
      @johndurrett3573 4 роки тому +1

      @Europa H2O Alien It all began with the OJ Simpson car chase.

    • @YSLRD
      @YSLRD 4 роки тому +3

      Heinlein was right about one thing: we did become teenagers in that era. Still waiting for maturity.

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem 3 роки тому +1

      Arthur threatened the notion of "information pollution" actually!

    • @donaldfowler8004
      @donaldfowler8004 3 роки тому

      i disagree if you actually pay attention heinlien has characters that spend most of there time entertaining people on live holoreels.

  • @vilstef6988
    @vilstef6988 Рік тому +2

    I was 15 years old when this happened. I had read a book or two by Arthur at this time, and read my first books by Robert in the next year. I am seeing this for first time. I saw some coverage on ABC and NBC, but the area I grew up in did not have good coverage by CBS.

  • @stephenhuntsucker3766
    @stephenhuntsucker3766 3 роки тому +9

    “Making our stupidities on this Earth seem more and more intolerable.”
    But wait, there’s more.

  • @billlogsdon9337
    @billlogsdon9337 Рік тому +2

    Both of these authors were visionaries and accurately predicted future developments in space.

  • @bombsawaylemay770
    @bombsawaylemay770 6 років тому +41

    TANSTAAFL!

    • @TheHerbdude
      @TheHerbdude 4 роки тому +9

      I grok.

    • @veralenora4033
      @veralenora4033 4 роки тому +6

      There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 3 роки тому +5

      My favorite Heinlein book.

    • @willong1000
      @willong1000 3 роки тому +5

      A truism that others have, no doubt, recognized; but Heinlein codified, and will ever own it.

  • @JONNOG88
    @JONNOG88 3 роки тому +8

    Arthur C.Clarke was pretty much the only famous person from the Westcountry. Who didn't *loose* his accent 😆

    • @ericpalacios920
      @ericpalacios920 2 місяці тому

      It's amazing hearing it as an American. To our ears it sounds broadly "British" but occasionally dipping into a thick old-timey rural accent, especially with those "R" sounds!

  • @mdombroski
    @mdombroski 9 місяців тому +1

    This might be the first time I've ever ween Robert Heinlein on video.

  • @jacob_swaggerz
    @jacob_swaggerz Рік тому +1

    You know what the ironic thing about this is... we look back o these men as if they are fragments of the past. But this is history gentleman, this is something special that will forever define us.

  • @AmyAndThePup
    @AmyAndThePup 2 роки тому +3

    I wish news and other broadcasts were this intelligent, respectful, and optimistic today.
    Makes me happy hearing Clark and Heinlein for the first time.
    Also wish we hadn't just stopped going to the moon. Makes me sad how the space program, in some respects, seemed to flop after the mid-70s. Something changed, and I'm not sure what. I wasn't born for a few more years.
    I wish the stupidity of today could be minimized and removed from society...

  • @cttv90108
    @cttv90108 6 років тому +3

    TO CBS- hoping you will package this and a lot of other highlights from this broadcast into a new dvd / blu ray in time for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11.

  • @paulembleton1733
    @paulembleton1733 5 місяців тому

    Worth a bump.

  • @andyburk4825
    @andyburk4825 5 років тому +5

    "The hatch is due to be open in 59 minutes from now ..."

  • @moviola12
    @moviola12 2 місяці тому

    Great stuff.

  • @someguy7829
    @someguy7829 4 роки тому +10

    Heinlein could see a alien intelligence. He was probably communicating with them somehow.

    • @starlandseay4030
      @starlandseay4030 3 роки тому

      Heinlein was an alien intelligence...from Sexotopia! LOL

    • @AHart7853
      @AHart7853 3 роки тому

      @@starlandseay4030 ……..what?……

    • @BlueBoy0
      @BlueBoy0 Рік тому +1

      Are you confusing him with L. Ron?

  • @wardka
    @wardka 3 роки тому +9

    This saddens me how much optimism we lost. I love these two writers but it seems, at least temporarily, their vision of the future did not come to pass. I fear now it never will as long as human stupidity reigns.

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 3 роки тому +2

      As long as Christianity and Governments continue to Censor creators, we will never return to what America is suppose to be

  • @JBell9800
    @JBell9800 2 роки тому +3

    So much optimism and hope. Heartbreaking how we've let all these men down. They would weep to see our current civilization.

  • @richardmatheson5693
    @richardmatheson5693 3 роки тому +5

    Would you like to know more?

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 Рік тому +2

    How would you like to stay for a few days at either of their homes ! God I know I would 😊

  • @JONNOG88
    @JONNOG88 3 роки тому +3

    But Robert. *When* will the Arachnid's land on the Moon?? 😯😮 Would you like to know more ??

  • @venturefanatic9262
    @venturefanatic9262 Рік тому

    50 years later and still not even close.

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 4 роки тому +2

    It seemed simple on that day that we were going to the planets, building space colonies and who knows, even going to cease wars. What a moment July 20, 1969 was. Just a brief interlude though.

    • @bnic9471
      @bnic9471 4 роки тому +2

      I worry that it was high tide for the human race, since we've done so little with manned exploration since Apollo 17. We must get back out there. I hope the current administration's plans for the moon and Mars pan out. Few of us will ever get to leave earth, barring some cheap, fantastic technology, but it must be done, anyhow.

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 4 роки тому +2

      @@bnic9471 I'd rather leave space policy to someone who doesn't urge the drinking of bleach.

  • @MsLegaC
    @MsLegaC Рік тому

    9:15 he finally asked my question 😀

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch 2 місяці тому

    Wow.

  • @NoelStalker
    @NoelStalker 19 днів тому

    if only we could unite as a species and put war aside and focus on space exploration. Instead, we are fighting about what a waste it would be to spend on this instead of other things and whether or not it should be privatized. I remember having this optimism from reading Asimov and Heinlein 30 years ago. Never suspected we would all have iPhones and not have returned to the moon.

  • @bornn68
    @bornn68 3 роки тому +1

    "If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon
    If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool"

  • @johnclapzucker3145
    @johnclapzucker3145 9 місяців тому

    "My theory is that it's going to land with a bottle of wodka". That's what I call badass dark humor😂.❤. Those were naive ignorant days. But he's so right.

  • @christycyr
    @christycyr 5 місяців тому

    wow

  • @ReiMonCoH
    @ReiMonCoH 2 роки тому

    Kind of surreal

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 11 місяців тому +2

    Yet the Luddites still despise the future.

  • @mercurywoodrose
    @mercurywoodrose 3 місяці тому

    Giants walked the Earth

  • @billygoat520
    @billygoat520 Рік тому

    I was in my 6th month of military service when this happened.

  • @warplanner8852
    @warplanner8852 Рік тому

    This must've been recorded on 20 July 1969 on the occasion of John Glenn setting foot on the moon.

  • @scottkuntz8184
    @scottkuntz8184 6 років тому

    I rember this exchange
    Its nuclear versus nonnuclear

  • @roberthuff3122
    @roberthuff3122 3 місяці тому

    No substantive predictions came true, especially about changing the human condition. More than interesting in the context of today’s dire predictions.

  • @Bill-uo6cm
    @Bill-uo6cm 2 роки тому +2

    They may be overstating their case. Despite our problems here on earth, our planet may be the only hospitable planet in the entire universe and the only decent place for us to reside regardless of the power we think we may develop to transform some of these other planets. People love to ponder the mystery and beauty of space, but we may be alone in the universe, and I think anyone who decides to venture off on a long trip into space in the near or far future will start missing this little planet really fast.

    • @lowkey1969
      @lowkey1969 Рік тому +1

      No kidding. The planet we evolved on is the one most suited to us?
      But one of our distinguishing characteristics as a species is that we alter our environment to suit us. Else-wise L.A. wouldn't be able to have a tenth of it's current population.
      Given enough power, we can and will alter anywhere we think is worthwhile to live into a habitable place.

  • @patrickmccormack4318
    @patrickmccormack4318 4 роки тому +1

    Space fantasy got under the skin of Jacque Fresco. I suspect, in particular, Arthur C. Clarke.

  • @knrz2562
    @knrz2562 Рік тому

    Windows, Mac, Chrome, and Android, , electrophysiology, , nuclear magnetic resonance, isothermal titration calorimetry neurobiology

  • @davidb6576
    @davidb6576 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for publishing this video from the first Moon landing. If only we had more such events to look forward to, rather than the same old barbarism and evil, currently being evidenced by the Ukraine invasion...

  • @danhunter8970
    @danhunter8970 3 роки тому +2

    Anson

  • @blackearl7891
    @blackearl7891 Рік тому

    60 more years and we are close to finally using nuclear for spaceships

  • @davidguy209
    @davidguy209 8 місяців тому

    i was too young at the time. it must've been amazing. what a shame their optimism hasn't been rewarded.
    even now, people conspire to stall Elon Musk's Starship, which is surely the next great step forward for mankind...

  • @HY-vz3ks
    @HY-vz3ks 4 роки тому

    千里之行,始于足下

    • @johnshilling2221
      @johnshilling2221 4 роки тому

      I haven't got a clue as to what you're saying, but you do have great handwriting!

    • @sage9836
      @sage9836 Рік тому

      Lovely! Yes.

  • @jerryeskridge4798
    @jerryeskridge4798 3 роки тому +1

    Cronkite, Clark, Heinlein What is it like to see a dream to becoming a reality??? Bezos, Branson,Musk let us learn, discover than move men and women to a better world... 🌎🌍

  • @Radius284
    @Radius284 3 місяці тому

    And it wasn't until almost 50 years later that Elon Musk took their inspiration to continue that movement.

  • @ThomasSchick
    @ThomasSchick 7 років тому +3

    #1st...

  • @stephenhuntsucker3766
    @stephenhuntsucker3766 Рік тому +1

    These men are so optimistic that it almost sounds naive.

  • @Sirfev2010
    @Sirfev2010 3 місяці тому

    SUS

  • @PoetbyDay
    @PoetbyDay 3 роки тому

    Magma and lava under the earths crust in the sea; I beg to differ Arthur C. Clarke.

    • @dictionarypictionary9872
      @dictionarypictionary9872 3 роки тому

      yeah, he was very stern about that, like all his assets are in satellite programmes. He's a thought off the top of my head, build off of an island into the water such as St Helena and when the submerged town is supported you can light a fire like anywhere else.

  • @rvdjt8874
    @rvdjt8874 2 роки тому

    Jesucristo es Dios

    • @kaneda7368
      @kaneda7368 Рік тому

      yo pensaba que jesu cristo era el hijo de dios

  • @gilheuss7830
    @gilheuss7830 26 днів тому

    How wrong we have made it. What a waste

  • @penduloustesticularis1202
    @penduloustesticularis1202 Рік тому

    ....aaand the space dream has fizzled out.

  • @tigershark7155
    @tigershark7155 2 роки тому +1

    Hostilities still exist and the Chinese are the main enemy.. (sads)

  • @oberstul1941
    @oberstul1941 Рік тому

    Aaah, sweet summer children with their Spacer optimism.

  • @Madstsone
    @Madstsone Рік тому

    They were all wrong. It wasn't the beginning of something, it was the end of the frontier ethos.

  • @rd264
    @rd264 Рік тому

    this bit of smug propaganda was supposed to calm fears about the military's space race and the question of what good is it in a world already under the gun.

  • @dineshtharanga8122
    @dineshtharanga8122 9 місяців тому

    only English international interviws. 0 sinhaala intervive on local tv s fm ss