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- When the gear collapsed I knew I was in trouble, when I couldn't get it to relock I got nervous, when the engine quit things got serious. Come along on what was supposed to be an easy program helping a new owner with his "proven" P-51 mustang replica. A great example of how you always have to be ready.
This video includes some very interesting discussion about how a ground crew adds value, and why it is important to understand the background of the folks supporting you via the radio. On the early space programs they used non-flying pilots for this role, at Wasabi it's typically Justin and I trading off the test conductor / chase pilot role. Unfortunately Justin was in Hawaii supporting another Wasabi customer and he was sorely missed.
This video covers the entire Wasabi portion of the program from the inspection through the three successful flights to the final flight in the airplane. It's a long journey, feel free to use the timestamps to jump around.
Thank you for coming along with us. We at Wasabi feel so fortunate to have customers like Jim Oddie willing to show their test programs and a vibrant community like this to share that work with. While our customers pay for the testing itself these test videos are funded by us and subsidized by our sponsors and patreons. Check out our sponsors below. Thank you for your support. See you in the comments.
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Outline:
00:00 airplanes are cool
00:52 Introduction
01:32 Sponsors
02:01 Background
04:55 Background - Ethan's Flight
06:14 Wasabi Starts Program
09:11 Inspection
14:14 Ground Run
17:54 Flight Prep
18:51 Flight One
25:58 Flight Two
30:14 Flight Three
30:57 Flight Four Incident
32:35 Incident Summary
45:59 What Happened
50:30 Accident Site Cleanup
53:56 airplanes are cool
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Great job on safe return and debrief my friend. I love your respect of others, the work performed, not blaming or hurting others while discussing a difficult situation. list the facts as known to help us all learn, open our minds to ideas and processes to ultimately become better builders and pilots. You are a great ambassador to aviation and a test pilot I respect. Great job bud !!! Cheers 👍🤠 Back To Work 🤠
Thanks Mike!
I know you test fly all your own planes Mike, but it would be cool to have Wasabi there for scrappy's first!
Yeah I agree Mike. When you come at a positive view and make the best of a bad experience, the better off you are in the long run. Back to work!
@@ChevTecGroup the fricken dream team?!? Am I right?
@@ChevTecGroup It would be cool!
Thanks so much for being willing to share this stuff in such great detail. We’re not all test pilots, but we can learn a great deal from your experiences. I know how hard it is to allow yourself to be vulnerable when putting stuff like this out there - so again, thanks for doing what you do. (And great job on this edit - that’s no small task!)
Thanks man, I appreciate your help with all of this. Just an engineer, taking to people is hard
Totally agree 👍🏻
@@utopiasnow I was wrong with my comments - I've deleted them. Go for it.
Very informative. That was a classic fault. Like a little time bomb. Not to much damage I hope. Great edit.
Hey Flight Chops are we going to see that trip edited up on the Dreadnaught Reno trip?
@@utopiasnow "Airplanes are cool" - And you're out there making them safer for everyone who thinks the same. 👍🏼
I feel like a new pilot learning to fly in tiny experimental Mustang is the equivalent of giving a kick start, raked Harley with ape hanger handle bars and a suicide shifter to a 16 year old to pass their driving test.
Totally agree, learn with the tribe and true assessment at 152 or 172 retracts obviously are sexy and facilitate higher speed but got to love the safety of fixed gear Ala a lot of Cessnas and the Cirrus
More like h2
Yeah, I was pretty shocked to hear that was the plan. You can beat on a 30 year old Cessna a little and know it is going to do what it has done for the past 5000 hours. Low volume of manufacture plane, rare engine config, little redundancy, and a new pilot would be a terrible combination. Find a 150 and fly that for a year, minimum. If either of those failures had happened right after the guy got his license, this could very easily have ended badly.
Hilarious, thumbs up on your comment. I think the 16 year old stands a better chance of success. Hopefully the owner will realize how many ways this plane can hurt an inexperienced pilot or careless experienced pilot and start in a training airplane.
Harleys are horrible. Don't give one to anybody to ride
I’ve been flying for so far 20 years mixed between civ, flight instructor, check airmen, defense and commercial 121 ops. And I saw no problems with your decisions at any point. Hardest thing to do is find that low key point with no engine and you did well. One can always backseat drive, doubt the process they chose after the fact, but and I stress this, none can change the past, and the decisions were the best you could have made in the stressful moment of multiple failures. I had a piston decide to explore the outside world n a pa28r on my commercial single engine land checkride back in the day. 500 ft AGL after takeoff. My decision to make a turn and land on a crossing runway saved the aircraft and us inside from landing in a residential area, and luckily my gear locked down so all that I had was a stuck aircraft blocking a runway in the end. No matter what others say they were not in that seat, controlling that aircraft. You’re decisions were the best in the moment. Wouldn’t have a problem having you sit in my aircraft next to me or solo, amazing job.
"I was the British guy speaking to you on the radio" If anything that man needs a cup of tea! 10 out of 10 landing Elliott, really good debrief certainly a lot of things I'm going to take on board.
Thanks man, glad you guys were there. He did a great job.
@@utopiasnow Gotta find a job for that guy! He's got the right attitude and the fundamental skills to effectively communicate while under indirect stress - hard to find, harder to teach.
Deffo cup of tea. And more importantly with biscuits. (Tea without biscuits means you are in serious trouble)...
Apparently you haven't heard the Air Traffic controllers who talked a non pilot, who was a passenger on a plane in which the pilot had a heart attack and died ! This guy had Never flown a plane, Several controllers actually talked the the guy down for a near perfect landing. At Night !
Unfortunately the pilot didn't survive.
I believe it was somewhere in England.
I think they even scrambled a Military helicopter to fly beside the guy giving him assistance also.
Quite a Story, they had the Whole conversation on tape !
@@charleslacombe359 I remember that - there could've been several cases but here's one: ua-cam.com/video/aqPvVxxIDr0/v-deo.html
Makes me appreciate the dual magneto systems even more. Lose all the electrical you want and the engine keeps running (and still has a backup).
This plane sounds like a handful. I really appreciate the guts required to be a test pilot.
Wow . Owner is lucky have u as a pilot. Well done. No apologies required from you .
Always along for the journey. Airplanes are cool even if they let you down
Thanks 🙏 man
Yep, airplanes are cool.
My dad put in a couple of planes in his flying career, and his advice (etched in my brain)" fly it until the banging and clanging stop!"
Good job!
Thanks for the comment and for coming along.
@@utopiasnow I like your vids, very informative and you give your mindset as to what's going on as it's happening. I imagine it good for you, to help hash thru it and it gives everyone else an idea what goes on when things go bad. Your a calm cool pilot, my dad would have been proud to know you.......
I appreciate that
Oh My... What a great outcome. As a 10,000-hour plus pilot. One single engine out episode. Luckily made a runway. God was watching after my brother and me. We bought a Beech Baron after that.
Incredibly thorough debrief and analysis of the incident, thanks for sharing and glad there were no major repercussions.
I couldn’t stop watching, so I watched all the way to the end. I reckon you did a good job on the video. It was interesting from start to finish. Thanks for bringing us along..
Thanks for coming along, I appreciate the support!!
Yes, very condensed and well-edited on top of everything else good about it.
Yes sir the plane flies great, come watch me crash it 😳.
The most important thing of all this is that you walked away unharmed! Nice to see someone actually paying attention to someone else flying and was able to communicate the gear failure the way he did. All in all you walked away and was able to return home to your family, great job! Keep the videos coming, very interesting!
Boy you said it, I was very impressed by Brett. A great addition to the day for sure!!
Thanks. This video does an excellent job of highlighting the myriad things about aircraft that I know absolutely nothing about. I'm very glad there are experts like you who do know a little something about these majestic beasts.
I am glad you walked away. Great cockpit management. Thank you for the teaching moments.
RIP Ethan Gadis. I’m a good friend of his father.
Great work Elliot. My most poignant takeaway from this video is that you, an incredibly experienced/knowledgeable/effective aviator, are still learning new things about how you respond and react under cockpit stress (e.g. “too much customer service”). Your personal human performance debrief is not only fascinating but also encouraging. Excellent job and thanks for the transparency.
Thanks for the observation. I see the trap that builds you up in your own mind, conveniently forgetting mistakes that are hard to think about. As soon as you start bringing cameras along on test flights you realize how error prone you are, and the best thing you can do is bury yourself in the lessons and try to get smarter and better. I have been lucky to have the experiences I have had and it would be cruel to squander the lessons that came with them. Thanks for the comment and the support.
Good stuff, Elliot. I'm an engineer and own a steel technology company who flies a STOL Skywagon. Your UA-cam videos are fantastic and I have a tremendous respect for what you do. I find that your words are measured and you just present the facts of your process while still being considerate of others. Keep up the great work!
May God continue to keep you safe.
Thanks Kevin!!
Thank you for the detailed debriefing amazing you were able to stay composed during this difficult situation. It's because of that and your excellent piloting abilities that you were able to walk away. Godspeed and blue sky's.
Very interesting. My thoughts are about three critical flight systems serviced by a single breaker. Landing gear hydraulics, fuel pumps, and engine ignition with no PMG, should all have been on individually serviced hot battery bus tie ins so as not to lose the whole kaboodle if one of these overwhelmed the circuit breaker. I also found it odd that anyone would forgo installing an idiot light that gives you an incredible amount of information, the gear UNSAFE (amber) light. That idiot light tells you many, many things. On the ground a flickering UNSAFE light tells you three things, your gear are not down and locked, your down lock switch is failing or out of rig, you have a lose or improperly fastened gear down lock strut. During transition from gear down to gear up, your UNSAFE or gear in transit light is normally illuminated, AMBER. On reaching the gear up and locked position, the making of the up lock switch removes power from the UNSAFE light, and then allows illumination of three gear up red lights, or whatever the aircraft gear requirements are. The gear up in the hole should also remove power to a dedicated hydraulic pump, depending on the installation architecture of the system. An AMBER on light instead of three reds tells you your gear are not retracted fully, uplock switch not made, power still on UNSAFE light, no power through uplock switch indicating gear stowed or three reds. So this AMBER light is again giving you lots of information, situation not normal for selected gear position. Has the hydraulic pump failed, does gauge still show pressure, yes, misrigged uplock switch or failure of uplock switch. Does gauge show pressure, no, failed hydraulic pump, set gear lever to down position and expect three green gear down lights. Idiot lights are just that, light for us idiots to make good choices in times of financial insecurity, because I guarantee, the gear not staying down and locked is going to be expensive!
Totally agree on the single breaker. That seems insane on a plane like this which already lacks redundancy elsewhere. Oh, your fuel pumps tripped the breaker? Well, congrats, now you've got no gear or motor too! This video demonstrated just one of numerous ways that shortcoming can make a dangerous situation a deadly situation!
A lot of knowledge systems can be aids to the pilot and added into some lights, or dials that may show potential problems. as you point out!. sometimes a few more "what-ifs" should have been added to the cockpit for the pilot!
"My thoughts are about three critical flight systems serviced by a single breaker. "
No kidding! That is unimaginable to me and violates even the most basic logic.
There is something we can learn from buying a homebuilt. First, A&Ps work in an environment where there is an expectation of basic logic being employed in the design and implementation. He has ADs that are the results of experience with aviation-designed components refined over thousands of hours of use. With an automotive engine power plant and a custom gear system, there was plenty he was in no position to critique. Second, you cannot expect even a highly skilled test pilot to have more than a high-level understanding of the aircraft's systems. Third, this means the owner of a homebuilt is responsible to have or acquire the skills to critique the design and implementation of the aircraft systems. In this case, the A&P could be of little more use than to check for corrosion and the health of the manual flight control system. For anything else, he was an unqualified second opinion, since most of the critical systems are not from the General Aviation industry. They needed to add a mechanical engineer and special machine builder experience for the gear, and the conversion manufacturer or a well-trained auto mechanic that could talk intelligently with them for the engine, gearbox, and prop. Unlike an aircraft engine, you need expensive instrumentation and the knowledge to use it to evaluate the health of something as sophisticated as a car engine.
I once worked on a "kit car" Porsche speedster, only one! The Ts got dots, and the Is got a cross bar.
@@edwinhsingmaster9135 What? Can you make your comment clear please?
Man those snippets of carnage during the story really brought things back into perspective. Despite the less than desirable outcome of the program I am glad to see that everybody walks away at the end of the day and I wish you safe travels into the future. Thanks for the excellent debrief and for being an awesome dude!
Elliot this is exactly why you are a test pilot and a Dam good Test Pilot. You are well prepared and if a crash landing needs to occur then you also know how to handle the aspect of it. I am certain your family is thankful for your professional and capable ways. May Ethan rest peacefully sad to hear.
Absolutely fascinating. A riveting glimpse into a real life, flight test program that ends with an emergency. Excellently documented and presented. Thanks for sharing it.
Airplanes are cool! I was going to pull the plane out today. After watching a gear collapse AND engine failure on the same flight, I think I’ll just get a coat of wax on the Comanche. Happy Father’s Day Elliot!
Man once again i am incredibly impressed at your piloting skills. I hope to see this plane fixed and back in the air better than before. 👍😎✈Airplanes are cool. 👍
Thanks Brent, good to have you along
Honestly I hope to see this plane straight-up mothballed until significant redesign makes it much safer! Just my useless two cents :)
Great video. I've seen a couple of comments about condensing 3 hours of stuff into a 1 hour video. My humble advice FWIW: UA-cam space is free and your audience is pretty devoted. There's no reason not to break it up into smaller videos, especially since this covered multiple flights. If you had three hours of stuff, you could've made an entire playlist/series releasing videos once or twice per week. That helps with audience engagement, channel activity, and all the other stuff the algorithm likes to help your channel grow. Just technique only. I'm glad FlightChops introduced me to your channel and am looking forward to more videos.
even Mover is up in this piece?!? Yo, you still playing DCS? have you started your own server yet? I'd LOVE to fly with ya/against ya sometime! I love your channel.
Hi CW, I am one of your subscribers, awesome to catch you outside your channel lol
Be realistic.
Anyone thats going to be interested in even half of the nitty gritty were never going to stay anyways.
I have nothing but time and im not the only one.
3 hours is a daily listen through the headphones as i 🔧.
I wouldnt change a thing.
My advice is to also use and crosslink other video hosting sites such as Bitchute, Odysee, Rumble, and Dailymotion. UA-cam is engaging in some seriously dangerous behavior and is increasingly a platform for corporate content.
Aren't you supposed to be learning helo?
.. wtf you doing watching these long ass videos?
😋
I'm an "Industrial Safety" guy,. with little aircraft experience, and this is a wonderfully explicit "Accident Investigation"!
Thank you, for your example!
That was totally amazing, Elliot! I was engrossed from minute one right until the end and I'm so glad you made it down safely. Your honestly and attention to detail is so refreshing, and the main reason I follow your channel. I probably learned more from watching you deal with the gear problem and then the engine-out in this vid than I've ever done practising them myself! Your patreon link didn't work the last time I tried it, it did this time though and I feel honoured to help. Stay safe! Airplanes are cool! 👌
Elliot… it’s so impressive that you were able to muster up the courage to share this for the greater well being of the aviation community. It really is pilots like you on here that are able to grow and foster a stronger and safer group of pilots. I can’t even begin to imagine what it must feel like being in this situation even after seeing this video, so amazing work to say the least. Cannot wait to see what you get into next!!
Amazing work, and thanks for publishing such a detailed debrief! I'm an electrical engineer who flies experimentals, and this is a _really good_ example of how a little bit of electrical budgeting gone wrong can make a real mess, definite food for thought. Really glad you made it through unharmed, and congrats on the smooth landing-to-spinout despite the circumstances. Best of luck on your future programs!
Good job, any landing you can walk away from is a good one.👍 Great tech depiction on that project.
First, so glad you are safe. Second, amazing work and professionalism which in my opinion is a testament to why you are safe. Thanks so much for sharing so everyone can learn.
Excellent handling of the situation. Superb debrief - I learned many things as I always do with your videos. Many thanks and glad you are safe.
Thanks man, I appreciate the support and the comment!
I've always been interested in planes and particularly warbirds in a very superficial way, but this was my first exposure to the reality of aviation and it was incredible. Your editing, your step-by-step logic of events and your sheer technical knowledge are commendable. I suddenly find myself incredibly interested in the technology and knowledge involved in planes and aviation, and I feel that it is in large part due to the passion you shared with us. Thank you for this video!!
There are not many videos that I will watch without forwarding through. Your videos are or should be required viewing for all pilots. Thanks for the time spent with your contributions.
Very well put together Elliot, I truly think this debrief will help pilots out there if they ever find them selfs in a similar gear situation. Great work 👍
Thanks 🙏 man
Thanks for sharing, Elliot. Your videos have been really helpful in my development of a new mindset at work. The lessons in walk throughs, preparation, and just talking through things has been super helpful even in the cyber security world, especially the debriefs. This video is a prime example of how preparation can make a really crappy day less terrible than it can/should be.
(airplanes are cool)
Thanks man
Wow, what a fantastic and well made video/documentary! SO happy you survived this whole ordeal and could explain it so well. It truly shows your professionalism and expertise. Wishing you and your family a long, healthy and happy life!
Absolutely in love with your channel. I had my first dead stick landing a few months back and it has definitely opened my eyes up to how we can mitigate risk. Luckily I had great flight instruction and was able to 180 spot with no problems. We talk about it in flight training all the time but you're doing it real world and I enjoy hearing your process when things gets weird.
Thanks man, “things get weird” I like that
As always, another great presentation of your experiences. I appreciate the way you specifically avoid making people look bad as much as possible, the way you specifically call attention to helpful people in tense situations, such as Brett, and the amount of detail you attempt to highlight all for the sake of learning for yourself and helping others learn with you. This is another fine example of all of those things, and is exactly why I religiously watch your videos. I'm always gaining more understanding from them. Glad everyone was safe and uninjured, and glad that you got back on the ground in one piece, especially given the surroundings of that airfield.
I’m trying man. I don’t know much about storytelling but if this youtube thing means helping cool airplane people do more cool airplane stuff I’ll keep muddling through. There wasn’t an engineering class on this in college haha. Thanks for coming along!!
I was in shock you had the reaction time to catch the gear collapse then the engine quitting slapped me in the face as well. Good video !
Great job flying... Amazing job explaining the progress. Glad you walked away to tell the story.
Very impressive the way you articulated this event. Your the guy that everyone would love to have you at the controls. Skill set above anything i have ever seen. One word Awsome!
Congratulations for the management of the whole situation during this emergency! 👏👏👏
Thanks Rafael!
Glad you're ok. Plane's can be replaced father's can not. Happy Father's Day E
Very impressed with your approach to the whole situation and the debrief. Very professional and a great example to all of us pilots!
Incredible video. Super informative. So glad you're not injured. Thanks for sharing this with us !!
I am not a pilot but video like this is fascinating. Glad you were able to make it back to the airport.
I have such respect for what you do so professionally. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks man, I’m trying for sure, not sure how much respect it deserves but both hands over here, haha
a great demonstration of how important all that detailed aeronautical theory, immediately accessible from memory to the pilot, can save the day. I found ES' thorough description right from the start was a first class master class in just about every aspect of flying an aeroplane mindfully. I really appreciate this work and thank ES for his open discussion for the benefit of all aviators.
This is ONE AWESOME PLAY BY PLAY video. I'm not a Pilot but I learn so much from these videos, Thank you for sharing. And im really glad everything ended with nobody hurt. Great Great Job.....
I really appreciate your approach and attitude. Great video and a lot to learn here!
Thanks for coming along and commenting.
Well done landing the plane, and getting out safely.
Amazing analysis and debrief, outstanding journey through your processes, risk mitigation, prioritization and decision making.
Your ability to dissect the situation as it was unfolding is impressive. Well done!!!
I’m doing my best, I can assure you I used both hands. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for sharing this. I can't imagine how you must've felt, directly after the crash landing. I'm no expert at all, but it looks like you handled everything well 👍🏻 And great job making such a detailed video about all the events 👌🏻
Thanks for saying that. Great to have you along.
That owner was VERY VERY lucky to have you testing out his plane.
It could have been worse. Thanks for the note!!
I'm wondering what makes someone who isn't a pilot buy an experimental kit plane?
@@twizz420 I love warbirds and Mustangs in particular. Makes much more sense to pay a competent pilot to take off and land for me than get a license and just enough skill to kill myself.
I'm soo glad that you are here to tell and share this story thanks....
Something important almost all of us will never experience except for your accurate in depth narrative. 👍 I felt like I was in the cockpit with you. I understand much more about flying a craft of that ilk than I ever did before.
Challenging, on a good day. Gives you a taste of what WW2 pilots needed to accomplish for a successful mission, not counting being shot at.!👍
Thank you so much sir. The aviation community can study and learn from this for decades to come . You truly are a great Test Pilot . Cool under incredible pressure .
Thanks man
thank you, Elliot. this is VERY much a teaching/learning exercise for most of us. it BOGGLES my mind how the engine electrics are not isolated/redundant from the rest of the electrical system. also interesting to me the "feather" position on the propeller doesn't look very feathered. your methodical approach to risk mitigation is exceptional.
Owner here- The Whirlwind Aviation prop cannot be fully feathered like a turbine prop can. We had the minimum pitch detent set for pretty aggressive pitch so in the event of governor failure we wouldn't lose thrust, but there is a maximum pitch limit also.
@@Pantdino hello Sir, hope you can repair this very good looking aircraft. Separate buses for engine and for everything else would have been a good practice. Not meant to be a criticism but electrics in airplanes can be a source of bad surprises with their complex and sometimes obscure failure modes. I would also fit the internal backup battery to the dynon.
Excellent coverage of a very hairy day in the life of a test pilot. Having learned to fly at KHHR in the early 80's, KCPM is an airport I have flown in and out of dozens of times in my student pilot/early private pilot days. I was always looking forward to going there as there were a number of T-6 Texans based there at that time. Though I only actively flew for around 15 yrs, i am grateful to say I never had the misfortune of having a actual emergency to deal with. I am highly impressed with your handling this situation as you did. And you're right; "airplanes are cool!"
We miss your videos and expertise that have contributed immeasurably to aviation safety!
Great debrief Elliot! The single plug and automotive controls are fine in my view, but only if implemented with a well designed and isolated power scheme. From little (certified) Lycoming ie2s to big boy turbines, a common solution is a permanent magnet alternator feeding the controls (Engine controls have power if engine spins) backed up by a ship bus tie if that PMA fails.
I’m only 40 something seconds in and I had to pause and comment.
WOW!! Is not even close the words I’m after.
It was something
Great job with the testing and minimizing the damage. Excellent job of explaining the details of the whole program start to finish.
Thanks
Elliot: This has been a great story to follow and the ultimate value to me, is to think through the systems you build and try, try to build in robust critical systems. Keep the Heart safe from the stumbling feet, in other words. Cheers!
Glad to see you're safe and unharmed. Good, no great walk through of the events. A follow-up when you have more information on the cause will be anticipated. I have no doubt you'll do that one day. Cool Airplane Video, but sorry for the loss too.
Sounds like NTSB has completed their investigation so look there if you wanna know who’s to blame. I doubt he will make a video about it
In summary, if I'm understanding this right;
1. Hydraulic landing gear didn't lock for some reason, unclear why.
2. The hydraulic pump switches were set to turn off when the landing gear locks, but it didn't lock, so it didn't turn off.
3. The sustained power taken by the hydraulic pump combined with the power required for all engine support systems (ECU, injectors, fuel pump, etc) drew more than the 30A the main breaker is rated for.
4. The main breaker flipped after some time and caused complete power loss.
Main lesson; have engine control systems be on a different breaker from the rest of the systems, just like cars.
Found your video by accident while surfing UA-cam today. As a CFI/CFII Rotorcraft Helicopter I've seen many training accidents reported verbally and on paper, but never one with accompanying video and this level of debrief detail. I have no fixed wing ratings and about five hours in a C-152 28 years ago, but I've always like the Mustang replicas. You did what looked like a very thorough job with the owner all the way through this, starting long before the incident flight. This has given me a whole new appreciation why aviation systems are redundant and designed the way they are. Automotive systems are fine for cars, but you can't just pull over to the side of the road if the engine quits in your aircraft. I used to think it was so silly to have an engine run by magnetos and such while everything on the road was running with computerized ECUs and all kinds of other high tech electronics. Aviation systems technologies in type certified aircraft are mature and proven, unlike the "proven" replica's tech. The LS is a fine motor...for cars. And that electrical design that ran those three quite critical systems through a single breaker? Who thought that one up?
I don't know if the plan was for you to train the owner in his aircraft if the series of test flights had been successfully completed, but I imagine he would have had his hands full learning to fly in that ship. Great job on your emergency landing and congratulations on being uninjured. Thank you for sharing all this information with us. Would love to hear how this all wraps up and the final disposition of the aircraft. Just subscribed, too. And before I forget, a shout out to Brett for supporting you from the ground during a very trying time.
Very professional & great video recap. The owner was fortunate to have you at the controls. Reaffirms my thinking that using auto engines without duplicate systems--especially on an experimental--is not on my bucket list. Glad you were safe & able to get home to the family.
This is an excellent recap of the project, and accident. The only thing I would have suggested adding is one or two still shots of the dashboard, with a highlighted location of a critical control/gauge/indicator. Most notably, the offending circuit breaker. Also the gear lock, which I didn't see. I find the two failures very troubling. As an electrical engineer, the incorrect sizing of the circuit breaker I find an unacceptable oversight in an aircraft with little to no redundancy. Your approach to checking out this aircraft is laudable, and the comments you made about how it made it through X hours with the marginally sized breaker show that such an approach is warranted. The right gear failure is something they need to get to the bottom of. Hopefully the investigation will determine the cause. Great work on this video!
or even better the hydraulic pump should have had its own breaker of fuse.
i am not a big fan of breakers. i have seen bad breakers (very high voltage drop when under load) do really funny (and hard to troubleshoot) things to electrics
i know many people look in horror at the automotive fuses i used on my airplane, but millions of cars reliably use those since decades. properly sized and wired, i consider them quite safe (and cheap and light)
@@crono331 How do you troubleshoot and fix a blown fuse in an urgent situation quickly though? Breakers give you a visual clue to the problem straight away. And an option to attempt a reset, rather than fiddling around for a new fuse. A fuse may protect your wiring well but it's doing less than a breaker to keep you safely in the air.
@@neiltwaterhouse if properly dimensioned fuses blow there must be a reason. I wouldn't put any breaker or fuse on fuel and ignition systems. A breaker popping on takeoff and shutting down engine will kill you.
@@crono331 With no breaker or fuse the wire will heat up instead, burning out completely and catching on fire. It will give you a little more time, but a lot more trouble when it does go.
@@Daschickenify you might change idea the moment the fuse or breaker pops right after take off. if you have the time.
"Thanks for staying for the whole video"?? Man I was hoping for much more! I love the long format of your videos. Such amazing professionalism and sincere introspection and consideration for others is what sets you miles apart in this industry in my opinion.
Thank you Darren, tell your friends. Did I mention we offer a referral bounty?
@@utopiasnow Maybe one day you can put my concept Carbon Kite through the signature Seguin refinement in South Africa
@@utopiasnow 😮 like Chick Fil-A coupons ????? weeeeeeee !!
Very meticulous and professional and when the bugs get worked out and hopefully no one hurt what a beautiful plane
Great debriefing, thanks for the time and effort in putting this together.
"Airplanes are cool" and Elliot, you kept your cool, much respect sir!!!! I image you are giving your wife lots of grey hair ;-)
Thanks for the comment and the support. Glad to have you along.
Elliot,
Really glad you were able to bring these emergencies to the ground safely. Have been waiting for the back story since the thumbnail weeks ago. Agreed, you are the right man, and by extension Justin and your company, to represent flight test to the world. Nothing cowboy about this. You created a build up plan, worked the plan, and had the experience to get this done when the plan took the less desirable path in the mental flowchart. Solid debrief. I would've watched 3 hours of this debrief (twice). Thanks for putting in the work to let us all along! Fly safe
Thanks for saying that! Great to hear from you and to have you along!!
Also, what a fantastic breakdown of events and what traspired and unpacking the incident. Bravo.
Thanks for this great video Elliot. I am about one or two weeks from test flying my Lancair after six years of building. Your description of the gear hydraulic pump electrical system caused me to go back to the electrical diagram and double check the pump is on its own breaker and has sufficient capacity upstream to the main electrical bus. Also, awesome job on Hakan's Lancair test flights, I learned a lot, Thanks again.
Your the man, had my heart pumping as failures were happening in flight, watching you deal with it all. Bravo.
As a retired 737 pilot I appreciated your analysis. In over 16,000hrs of flying I never experienced a multiple failure like that! Excellent and honest report!
Wow, as a spectator, very interesting, as an A&P, super interesting RCA! Thanks for sharing!
Well done! Well done! Well done! Your analysis and details are excellent. As a 1000+ hour Navy Flight Instructor in the T-28B & C back in the day, Carrier Pilot and Vietnam Vet, I will fly with you anytime!!!
I know i will probably get flamed for this but for me the risk outweighs the reward, every bit of this plane seems very amateur and dangerous, the pilot did an amazing job to get this bucket of bolts on the ground and thankfully his training saved his life well done to him ,,
Wow. I learned so much from this video.
And shoutout to Brett for coordinating your ground resources. What a legend!
Thanks for the kind words and support, great to have you along.
Thanks again for a comprehensive debrief of not just actions but emotions. having been in similar situations I strongly empathize with some of the feelings you expressed, especially the post-kinetic tiredness during the first moments of silence! Then immediately the post event actions kick in and switches harness oxygen and escape follow. I hold my breath for this short period as I do not wish to inhale any fuel vapours that can be lethal in event of sudden combustion event right at such a critical time. I start breathing again once clear of the vehicle, jogging away into the wind. I congratulate you again for your processes and actions, and in my opinion, this was an excellent example of FT inspection, planning execution and emergency actions. beware the deep s turn!
Super informative presentation and thorough debrief. Glad you're safe.
Well done all around! As someone who’s declared emergencies and had engine failures before, I can attest to the feeling of exhaustion after it’s all over and you’re out of the plane!
I really appreciated the extensive and detailed explanation of the entire course of events. There’s so much to learn from all of it!
Nice job, you handled that well. That electrical system needs a rework! In any situation where the engine depends on battery power for operation, you want a primary feed direct from the main battery, call it the "engine bus" if you will ... nothing, NOTHING should be able to take out the engine bus other than an engine systems fault, and even then, engine monitoring etc should be on the aux bus. There should also be a method to route the auxiliary power (if there is any) to the engine bus and dump everything else. Personally, I would have made a PAN PAN call, maybe got the fire crew all ready to go earlier (we chewed on this one before), I would not have called the owner, he can't help, he can't offer any useful advice, just distraction. I'd also probably have crashed short of the airport into a Walmart or crapped myself long before we go there, so don't listen too much to my opinions :) Either way, you got it down with minimal damage and walked away, good job, well done.
Well stated Robin. Also it was stated that the a/c was nose heavy and ran out of up elevator. Was there any consideration to adding weight to the rear seat area to move the cg aft? I do that when I fly solo in my RV-8.
Agreed, the electric distribution was wrong and the load analysis showed that it was a matter of time, the engine power loss was going to be a sure thing at some point. Hard to understand how the potential overload was missed… wrong CB location…. No back up electrical batter/source for the engine and no direct connect to the battery. These fundamental errors were not known to Ed and the amount of previous flight time generated a certain amount of confidence in the systems… You did a great job Ed. Jim Cook 10,000 hours and several similar situations so I know that you have second guessed yourself… no one could have done betterl - well done
Great List on the inspection! and concerns, Calm & Cool God Bless, Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to make this. This is one of the best debriefs I have seen and they are extremely important to the aviation community.
Thanks man
Hey excellent editing, great journey, absolutely love the debrief side of this.
Can you share next steps for Jim and or this bird?
Great video & you are obviously good at what you do. The gear pump should never have been wired through the main breaker, it should be stand-alone from the master. LS engines are normally as dry as a bone so that one leaking oil has a problem. Fuel pump should come on with ignition & only needs a secondary switch of the backup pump plus I run a low pressure warning light as an early warning to a fuel issue.
I can see how badly you feel about a situation you did everything within your ability to prevent/ mitigate. Great work and glad you made it out OK.
Great video, interesting to see the entire process as things progressed, your thoughts processes and such. From a student pilot who's been around aircraft his whole life I salute you sir.
Any landing you walk away from is a good one.
Nice Miller gloves! I hope to be as good of a pilot as you one day. It was also cool to see the respects paid to Ethan :)
Thanks for saying that.
Congratulations. You did fantastically! I'm 64 year old SoCal Single engine land, Instrument, Aerobatic in the Super D. I have been flying out of Compton, Fallbrook, Torrance, Catalina, Long Beach, Carlsbad, .......... for 30 plus years. You did everything right and I am extremely impressed you are so skilled and have the presents of mind to think when others react. I am now subscribing. I hope to meet you someday.
I don't know how exactly this video came up on my feed (probably because I am a pilot), but I watched every minute of it. Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the thorough and informative debrief. It was worth the watch!