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I have loved SD for years. They are the only band which when I listen to to them it is mysterious. It is like a magic trick. I am amazed by it but convinced it would spoil the feeling if I knew how it was done. No other band creates that feeling when I listen to them. My brain always analyzes what I hear. As for the lyric take. I don't see the stalker or adult movie star in there. To me it is about someone who is breaking into the movies after years of trying. Really nice breakdown, have a sub.
The other guy in that Donald Fagen tutorial video is Warren Bernhardt. He toured with Steely Dan in the 90’s. The video is called “Concepts for Jazz/Rock Piano” put out by Homespun Video.
You described the 3-6-2-5 as a bebop progression, but I've heard it a lot in older pieces from the 20s and 30s. I usually shows up as 1-3-6-2-5-1. The Charleston, Five Foot Two Eyes of Blue, if you just play that progression you are instantly transported back to that era.
Sort of a like a 21st century update from that early 90s video of Fagen doing the songwriting. He makes a comment along the lines of major blues being prevalent for Ray Charles and Bobby Blue Bland. I guess Teahouse on the tracks also could qualify as "major" blues. Always a superb job!
A major blues, is that using a major triad in the tonika (key) chord? In that case, I belive some trad jazz compositions (early 1900s) are major blues?
Novice says i knew that. Expert says thanks for reminding me. Thanks! Lovely romp through Peg! Maybe less trouble with solo if they coulda got Robben Ford.
Didn't Ford play one of the rejected solos? Carlton certainly did which is hard to comprehend-and probably was for him too. Hence him writing Room 335 to prove to them and himself that he could blow over it six ways to Sunday. I think they were just looking for something really off the wall which Graydon delivered with those Hawaiian sounding double stop bends and ascending country pull offs.
There arent any people that dont like Steey Dan. I grew up on punk rock and hip hop in the 80s. But loved Steely Dan. And the Fagan record I have is also one of my favorites. Dont blaspheme! LOL
@@notmillionaires it ain't me. I hear snobby prog rockers talk crap all the time. These same advanced musicians that could not play a steely Dan chord chart if you put it in front of them.
@@TimSmolensGreat video, and wonderful analysis. I must point out though that hearing a Steely Dan fan call anyone else a snob has a bit of irony to it lol. I’m a huge prog fan AND a huge Dan fan, so those statuses can coexist. And, what really is Steely Dan if not progressive rock? Unlike most other progressive rock artists, they are just lean much further toward jazz. All the other elements of prog and rock are there, and the fact that most of their airplay is and was on rock radio shows that at the end of the day they appeal to the rock demographic above other genres. Not being salty at all, love the analysis and just making some lighthearted observations. Oh, and I can read a Steely Dan chart, though on the fly I might make some ill-fated substitution decisions.
@@chrisbeck7193 it was just a vague association about being on a casting couch, not the main topic of the song but that his girl was now in that world, that is all. Free association
@@TimSmolens okay but 1. The casting couch has existed since Hollywood began, and is not what Weinstein was doing. 2. Where is the reference to the casting couch?
@@TimSmolens The song talks about her ending up at the "bottom" in foreign movies, so are foreign movies lower on the totem pole than porn? Don't think so, Tim.
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How could anyone not love Donald and Walter... Two absolute geniuses from Jersey/NY who happened to answer an ad looking for a couple band mates.
I have loved SD for years. They are the only band which when I listen to to them it is mysterious. It is like a magic trick. I am amazed by it but convinced it would spoil the feeling if I knew how it was done. No other band creates that feeling when I listen to them. My brain always analyzes what I hear. As for the lyric take. I don't see the stalker or adult movie star in there. To me it is about someone who is breaking into the movies after years of trying. Really nice breakdown, have a sub.
Excellent Tim
The other guy in that Donald Fagen tutorial video is Warren Bernhardt. He toured with Steely Dan in the 90’s. The video is called “Concepts for Jazz/Rock Piano” put out by Homespun Video.
First class job on one of my favourite songs. Thanks.
You described the 3-6-2-5 as a bebop progression, but I've heard it a lot in older pieces from the 20s and 30s. I usually shows up as 1-3-6-2-5-1. The Charleston, Five Foot Two Eyes of Blue, if you just play that progression you are instantly transported back to that era.
I watched it. Very interesting.
Now getting back into SD after 40 years. Fortunately I bought the greatest hits score compendium back then…
4:00 to start
Sort of a like a 21st century update from that early 90s video of Fagen doing the songwriting. He makes a comment along the lines of major blues being prevalent for Ray Charles and Bobby Blue Bland. I guess Teahouse on the tracks also could qualify as "major" blues. Always a superb job!
A major blues, is that using a major triad in the tonika (key) chord?
In that case, I belive some trad jazz compositions (early 1900s) are major blues?
@@herrbonk3635 More a major 7th, or a M6 I mean. Yes, the early 1900s songs certainly can qualify as major blues.
Novice says i knew that. Expert says thanks for reminding me. Thanks! Lovely romp through Peg! Maybe less trouble with solo if they coulda got Robben Ford.
Didn't Ford play one of the rejected solos? Carlton certainly did which is hard to comprehend-and probably was for him too. Hence him writing Room 335 to prove to them and himself that he could blow over it six ways to Sunday. I think they were just looking for something really off the wall which Graydon delivered with those Hawaiian sounding double stop bends and ascending country pull offs.
@@lightningstrikes7314Yep, Ford was one of the “auditioned” soloists whose efforts were left on the cutting room floor.
There arent any people that dont like Steey Dan. I grew up on punk rock and hip hop in the 80s. But loved Steely Dan. And the Fagan record I have is also one of my favorites. Dont blaspheme! LOL
@@notmillionaires it ain't me. I hear snobby prog rockers talk crap all the time. These same advanced musicians that could not play a steely Dan chord chart if you put it in front of them.
@@TimSmolensGreat video, and wonderful analysis. I must point out though that hearing a Steely Dan fan call anyone else a snob has a bit of irony to it lol. I’m a huge prog fan AND a huge Dan fan, so those statuses can coexist. And, what really is Steely Dan if not progressive rock? Unlike most other progressive rock artists, they are just lean much further toward jazz. All the other elements of prog and rock are there, and the fact that most of their airplay is and was on rock radio shows that at the end of the day they appeal to the rock demographic above other genres. Not being salty at all, love the analysis and just making some lighthearted observations.
Oh, and I can read a Steely Dan chart, though on the fly I might make some ill-fated substitution decisions.
There are plenty of people who don't like Steely Dan, including the late punk producer and performer Steve Albini. But my attitude is, F' 'em.
Yeah, many people hate Steely Dan.
You tube commercials are getting pretty annoying these days
Bird transformed blues into major modalities.
thru his composition? give an example
@@gazjaz2010the whole video? 😂
@@ibrajimenez2098 so you don't even know who Bird is 😂 got it
@@gazjaz2010 Charlie parker?
@@ibrajimenez2098 oh you can use google! so now tell us what this video has to do with Charlie Parker 🤔🤣
How is the song about missing your girlfriend anything like Weinstein? Makes no sense at all.
@@chrisbeck7193 it was just a vague association about being on a casting couch, not the main topic of the song but that his girl was now in that world, that is all. Free association
@@TimSmolens okay but 1. The casting couch has existed since Hollywood began, and is not what Weinstein was doing. 2. Where is the reference to the casting couch?
@@TimSmolens The song talks about her ending up at the "bottom" in foreign movies, so are foreign movies lower on the totem pole than porn? Don't think so, Tim.