Z Pack Arc Haul 60L Ultra 100 Gear Load-out for an 11 day backpack trip into the Grand Canyon
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- We are doing an 11 day loop into the Grand Canyon starting/finishing at Hermits TH with 2 pack raft floats of the Colorado river and off trail navigating over Flint/Tuna saddle. This is my gear load-out for this trip.
Some valuable & wise gear selections in there. Just one thing though, you need to make a little extra room to carry my food. Looking forward to this epic adventure we're about to embark on... see ya soon!
Dude I have no more room! I’m shocked I squeezed everything into this backpack. Good thing is that every day the load gets lighter and easier to pack! Yew! Can’t wait to be in the Canyon with you!
Eleven days of food plus all the gear seems like a heavy load from such a lightweight pack. I'm sure you had a great trip though.
Just got back from a 10 day trip into the GC carrying 10 days of food, a packraft & paddle, and all the usual gear but this time I took my Osprey Exos 58L. It holds more gear, that’s not a misprint 58 vs 60, and is definitely more comfortable but weighs slightly more than 1 pound than the Arc Haul. A couple times we had to haul additional water, I use the 2L platypus water sacks/bottles, and that pushed the weight over 45lbs. At the higher weights the Exos is definitely more comfortable on the shoulders. I think the Arc Hauls sweet spot is 30lbs or less. For longer trips with higher weights I’ll continue to use my 8 yr old Exos. It’s a bit battered and bruised but still performs beautifully!
What liter Hyperlite dry bags are you using?
Thank you for the great review! I hope you enjoyed your trip :)
What's the brand of the foam pad with the foil layer, sleeping bag and the silk liner? Thank you in advance.
Here you go…
UGQ Bandit 20Degree Sleeping Quilt - 1lbs 12oz (added 1oz more down in footbed and a collar) Cozy!
Thermarest NeoAir Xlite Reg/Wide (72”x25”) Inflatable Pad/Sack/QStraps - 1lbs 1.9oz (go wide. 25” is perfect size)
Cocoon Silk Liner - 4oz
Thermarest Z Lite Sol 1/2 Foam Pad - 7.2oz
Just back from another 10 days in the GC. Check out my buddies trailer…
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I appreciated your review of the arc haul. I have had the Exos 58 for years and really like it, but it is about worn out. I was planning on going to the ZPacks arc haul ultra for the weight savings and similar structure to the Exos, but I am torn between the 60L and the 70L. Do you wish you would have gone with the 70L? My last trip was a 6 days in the Eagle Cap wilderness in October... It was cold, and I had that 58L Exos filled up.
I’m starting to love the Arc Haul and yes I wish I would’ve gotten the 70L. I’ve carried up to 50lbs in the 60L and it’s doable if you have the additional hip belt pouches (2) and strap stuff to the top. It carry’s well with the heavier weights but loses some comfort. I think it’s sweet spot is
@@SummitSeeker546 thanks for the great info. Even with winter gear, I do not go over 30 lb, but the clothes/down becomes so bulky. It sounds like our style is similar... Lightweight, but not ultralight. There is only .3 oz between the 60Land the 70L so I guess I really don't have anything to lose. You certainly are giving it a workout... How are you finding the durability of the material?
@@dsl9973 The ultra 100 material has performed quite well from a durability standpoint. I’ve put it through hell as we like to do a bit of off trail traveling. So far no punctures, tears or worn spots on the fabric. One thing to note, I’m pretty careful when setting down my pack. Some guys are very rough and just toss their pack on the ground which eventually wears holes in the bottom of their pack. I have a few holes in the mesh but that’s to be expected. My one concern about the pack is the waterproof claim. If you are in a prolonged, all day rain somehow moisture will get in it. For shorter, cloud burst type rains it performs to expectations. At least that has been my experience. Fortunately I pack my quilt, clothes, and puffy jacket in dyneema waterproof stuff sacks for extra protection. The ultra 100 fabric doesn’t seem to absorb water and thus maintains its light weight. Definitely go with the 70L it’ll give you more flexibility to carry larger loads. The roll top is perfect for large or small loads.
Just found this video thank you for the very thorough walkthrough I am contemplating picking up a 70 L Arc haul. After a year what are your thoughts is it still a good pack and would you recommend it
This pack has been a nice addition to my backpack collection. Love the weight, the hip belt, and the ride. Choosing gear depends on the type of backpacking you are doing. I’m not a thru hiker thus weight is not the driver of my decisions. I’d consider myself a more traditional hardcore backpacker where I’m trying to balance weight and comfort. Typically we are carrying 5-8 nights of food but have also carried up to 11 with no resupply. I tell you this because being on trail for longer timeframes requires more food and gear to carry which means more weight. I’ve carried upwards of 45lbs in the Arc Haul while in the Sierra and it performed fine but it just wasn’t as comfortable as the Osprey Exos 58. Also the 60L Arc Haul doesn’t carry as much gear as the 58L Exos. For that reason I’d go with the 70L plus I think the 70L would probable carry a BV500 bear canister better. I think the sweet spot on the Arc Haul is under 30lbs. Carrying the same 45lbs in the Exos is definitely more comfortable. As for the waterproof claim, yes the Ultra 100 material doesn’t absorb water but it’ll definitely leak on a steady sustained rain. Probably be ok on a typical mountain afternoon rain as a front quickly rolls on by. Still use a pack liner or stuff your sleep gear and clothes in a dry bag. I will definitely still use the Arc Haul but for very specific trips where a lower pack weight is critical, like when we did the SEKI Traverse up/over many 11k’+ passes off trail, or for shorter trips where the overall pack weight is under 30lbs. For the longer trips or for trips requiring more gear, like the 11 day Grand Canyon trip we did earlier this year which we carried packrafts, I’ll choose the Exos. Hope that helps. Hit me up if you have anymore questions…
@@SummitSeeker546 thank you so much for all that data and feedback I really really appreciate it. Happy hiking hope you put out some more content soon hat really enjoyed your videos. God bless
Did you mention the weight? Thanks!
Weighed in at a total of 39lbs. Food was 13lbs and water, 2 - 1 liter bottles, was just over 4 lbs. Guess that means everything else weighed 22lbs. Of which the packraft and paddle weighed 2.75lbs. Quite pleased with the overall weight for an 11 day trip!
@SummitSeeker546 Wow! 11 days of food weighing only 13 lbs! Props to you! I'll look for any videos on how you did that. Otherwise I hope you'll create one if not already. You didn't mention fishing gear, else I might've thought that was a factor.
I forgot to thank you for all the info on the Arc Haul, as I'm strongly considering it.
How does that pack carry at 39lb?...was going to order it
I think the sweet spot is under 35lbs. That being said I have carried over 40+lbs multiple times and found the pack quite tolerable. I love the double belt buckle system or v strap webbing. It holds snug and the padding in the belt and shoulder straps is adequate. If I have any complaint it’s that it doesn’t hold as much gear in the main compartment as my Osprey 58L. To claim 60L they clearly maximized the added space in the side and back pockets. If you want a really light weight pack I highly recommend it. I’m glad I have it in my arsenal. For when I carry more gear and weight isn’t as much an issue I will reach for the Osprey. We are attempting the Kings Canyon High Basin Route again this fall and I’ll carry the Arc Haul with 9 days food and a bear canister. With all the high passes we will go over My knees are telling me to go as light as possible! I’m pretty sure I’ll have the pack weight right around 40lbs when we start.
@@SummitSeeker546 thank you for the great info reply and your videos....that was a big help..I believe I will order this but in the 70L...thanks again
@@SummitSeeker546 My 66 year old knees have thanked me repeatedly for aggressively using trekking poles. But you have to be sure to use correct technique. it's all about using the straps. If needed, just search YTube, trekking pole technique.
But perhaps you already know. I only just now found your channel. For all I know, maybe you've posted one of those trekking pole videos! D'up! 😮 lol.
This was helpful to me as I plan a 6-day Grand Canyon trip on Tanner-Escalante-Tonto-Bright Angel. Haven’t backpacked there before and my biggest concerns are possible silty water from the Colorado and finding adequate water sources once I get up on the Tonto. I like the collapsible bucket idea. Any concern with rodents at backcountry campsites? I’m not caching any food and plan on having it on me at all times. I’ve seen some suggest a rat sack but I’d rather not bring one. Thanks for sharing and happy trails. I look forward to the video of your adventure.
I’ve been using a Lopsak and haven’t had problems with rodents. At night I put the Lopsak inside my backpack. Glad the video was helpful. Have a great trip!
@@SummitSeeker546 thank you!
@@easydoesit9584 just got back from 9 days in the GC. Best option for filtering muddy water was the platypus gravity water filter. We used a 4liter system. The bucket took too damn long and the coffee filter tore. Just backwash with clean water after each muddy water filter job. At the back of most canyons especially right now the water is flowing from all the rain but also look for pothole water. It’s clean and a good source. Might need a cup to scoop out water to put into the platypus dirty water bag. I use a Lopsak to store my food and my buddy uses a Ursak. Rodents weren’t an issue for us. I always put my food in a sealed Lopsak inside my backpack inside my vestibule. Works for me so far!
If you plan to dry camp out on a point, which I highly recommend , versus back in a canyon where there is typically water, you’ll need to carry more water. I use the platypus 2 litter bag. Usually a total of 4 liters does it for dry camping.
@SummitSeeker546 thank you. Very considerate of you to circle back to me. I won't be there til November (I plan way ahead!) so the water source situation will likely be different. I appreciate the gravity feed advice. If you or your tripmates post a video I look forward to watching it. Lots of snow, rain, mud and rockfalls lately in the GC! Glad you made it out safely. And I definitely plan on spending a night or 2 camping up on the Tonto and not in a side canyon - I'm hoping for some great stargazing. Happy trails!
Which brand silk liner do you use?
Cocoon. Backcountry Gear has it on sale…
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