Changing Strap Locks (After 20 Years)
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Let's talk about strap locks and all the various types I have used and why I changed my strap lock of choice after 20 years!
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Actually a double slit velcro connection with stiff tips (think shoelaces but the harder part is on the inside) and you could swap even faster than the clip locks while having a connection that is twice as strong as the surrounding material when engaged. Basically shove them through each other's slit and press together. if you're feeding through a few inches of velcro, it's not going to separate or tear off accidentally when engaged, but when you're ready to swap straps you can just grab both ends and pull away so it slips apart easily. As long as the tips are fairly rigid and the rest of the "tabs" a bit stiff, it should work pretty much just like that.
EDIT: I'd make sure that it's got non-static generating material, just because, ever pet a cat when it's dry out lol brrrrzap.
Highly recommend D’Addario auto lock straps. A salesman turned me onto them and surprisingly he was completely right, they are awesome. Clip on instantly, faster than even a traditional strap. No modifying the guitar, no individual parts, honestly you can barely even notice it’s not a regular strap. Holds on pretty darn tight, but comes off super easy. That being said I kind of doubt they would stand up to the abuse of the road, but just in general they are awesome.
I use these on all my guitars. Best locks on the market
I keep a couple of these around for whenever a new guitar comes in or a friend brings one over. They're super convenient. I put DiMarzio ClipLocks on most of my guitars though.
The best part is that the D'Addario locking straps are PADDED! And the price is great at only $30.
I use these now too. I had the Dunlop locks. I had the Schallerlocks. I've had the Dimarzios. They all suck compared to the locking straps.
But that's not leather.
Strap locks unfun? I couldn't disagree more! I love strap locks and my instruments don't feel complete without them. 😄
Same here friend, same here 😅
Dumped too many stringed friends on their heads lol never have figured out what about me wandering and noodling does to pull straps, new and old, from the forward button 🤷
After years and years I have settled on the simple Grolsh beer bottle gaskets. 100 pack for $13. Works fine for me.
Ugh I have a love/hate relationship with Strap Locks. I now use a strap with a rubber attachment that slips over the original buttons. I’m not drilling into the guitar, and it works for me!
My epi lp that i bought in the early 90's still has the thr OG strap locks on it. They are grolsh bottle rubber washers also purchased in the same era.
If it works for you that's great, keep doing it. But with the classic Schaller style and (I think) the Ernie Ball style you can use the factory strap button screws if you wish. You wouldn't be altering or creating any new holes in your guitar
Strap locks are a must for me. Started with the Dunlops in the late 90's and still using them. They work perfectly fine and have always been available everywhere. I like that I've just been able to use whatever strap I want. As far as the looks, I don't think any of them look all that great, so that's not really a deciding factor for me. Maybe Dunlop could make their look sound fancier by calling it an "industrial design". 😅
Dimarzio cliplock. Never looked back
Totally agree
…same
100% agree. All of my guitars have the DiMarzio clip locks!! Can’t beat ‘em!
Zero reason to use anything else
All of my guitars have one. Bought one to try it out, fell in love with them!
Been using the Dunlop ones for years. I love em
The Schaller redesign isn't poor. They're offered in different sizes now. Get the appropriate sized buttons, and you'll never have to worry about the screw breaking. If you're not sure what size you need, measure the used length of the threads on your factory button screws or just buy the small S-Locks. If the screws are too small, just use a few pieces of maybe a toothpick or something until the screws thread in snug. This gives you a good bite for the threads without worrying about breaking a screw or irreversibly damaging the wood of the guitar.
Schaller all the way. Have them on all my instruments and especially the new designed ones are great! Never had any issues with a screw breaking. They also sell different sized screws with the same sized head - just make sure to get the right one and don't use the thinnest.
In the last year I've switched from Schaller strap locks to the Ernie Ball super locks, absolutely love them!!!
This is the video I've been waiting for from someone! I've been trying to figure out Schaller vs Ernie Ball for months now and couldn't find anything about the Ernie Ball strap locks and this video came in clutch! I'm getting the Ernie Balls!
the old schaller strap buttons still work, you dont need to use the new buttons. The fender strap lock buttons also fit the schaller perfectly and are cheap, and you can use the original screw that was in your guitar with them just like normal strap buttons
I agree 100% about not falling into our old familiar patterns just because they’re familiar. I still think Dimarzio Clip locks are the most solid choice for me personally. I am VERY tall, and Dimarzio straps are significantly longer than a standard strap. I do have to buy their extension anchors (sold separately) for guitars I have that the screw hole is in the neck heel, so they are pricey, but nothing Beats them especially if you’re a larger human than most.
I'll go Schaller every time! They've never let my guitar down! Literally!
I too started with Dunlop in the late 80s. I recently put Gibson diamond strap buttons on all my guitars and use Fenders rubber strap locks /washers as a secondary protection
I just use default strap locks on my guitars but with a D'Addario Auto Lock Guitar Strap which swivels around freely and doesn't fall off due to it's design. Perfect.
Love this type of sit down chat content!
I’ve tried a few now. The problem I have with ball bearing-based locks is that if your instrument is a bit heavy, the bearings will deteriorate the metal of the strap button over time. I ended up being mid set and having the strap detach. However, I was playing bass at the time and a heavy one at that.
After that, I went to the new Schallers and I think I’ve found the right fit for me. One upgrade which wasn’t touched upon in the video is the three metal spikes locking the strap in. This keeps the lock from spinning around like the old ones (if the old ones spun around they could randomly detach).
The older Schaller models were the best. If they were detaching when spinning around, you need to adjust the spring so more peg sits in the strap button. Stay away from the new S lock models. The fact they don’t spin like the old ones makes them bind on the strap button, twisting back and fourth, chewing up the wood threads in the guitar.
LOVE the old Schaller straplocks with a passion
HATE the new Schaller straplocks with a passion
Twenty years ago, when I toured a lot, my band just screwed the straps to the guitar with a stainless screw, nylon spacer, stainless fender washer, and a stainless finish washer. It's very cheap and reliable. We would break normal strap locks or they would rip out because of the mounting point being further from the body.
Dunlop Straplocks have saved me much heartache for 15 years.
Dimarzio clip locks in Yngwie cheetah pattern FTW!
For the DiMarzio strap, I like putting the buttons back on too as a backup, so in an emergency you can still use a normal strap. You just need longer screws. You can also put velcro on the plastic to stop the noise.
Very Cool, Thankyou. I Love The Gretsch Straplocks that came with my 2 Gretsch Guitars. Cheers
I use both Schaller strap locks the originals (Although hard to fit thicker straps - into? onto?) and Dunlop strap locks for certain guitars (V and rear mounted strap button guitars) I recommend both. I DISLIKE the new Schaller's for all the same reasons as you FLUFF thank you for another great video! Love your content!
Dunlop Strap Locks for LIFE!!! I do like the look of the Ernie Ball strap locks...hmmmmm
I know it’s been a while since they did it, but I very much agree with what you said about the schaller locks.
I was an avid user and proponent of using them until they changed the design. I wouldn’t want to use them on a “cheap” guitar, let alone one of my high end models. It kinda baffles me that they haven’t gone back to the old way by now since it has to be most of us that don’t like the new design.
i really love the grover strap locks. they’re designed off of the original schaller strap locks and they’re affordable. i’ve used the ernie ball locks and i had one break on me, but i still have a set on a guitar and the haven’t broken yet. but definitely grover for the win
I'm a big fan of the dadarrio locking straps. Used them since they were under the planet waves brand. They are so easy to use, reliable, and affordable it's almost dumb to not have at least one.
Slip it over a standard strap button, spin the thumb wheel to lock it, good to go! I have one that's over 10 years old now, and it still functions perfectly on my Gibson Sonex boat anchor.
After 35 years of fighting the schallers old and new design I moved to the Dunlops. No more checking loose nuts or moving strap parts. Even the newer S types move. I gig every weekend so I know what I’m talking about. I have no idea why I put up with for decades. Habit ? The Dunlop’s and the EB’s work great. Not had to touch I thing in 2 years.
Good thing about the Dunlop strap buttons is that if I forget my strap I can still borrow or get by with a standard strap. The Schallers you can’t.
I like those Fender Strap Blocks, I see other companies are making them now. No modifying the guitar needed.
for the last 20 years i use the dunlop straplocks and i flush mount them since they have flushmount receivers. this stops the weight of the guitar from ripping the screw out, especially from jumping around and playing hard. you gotta drill into the body for the receiver, but its a permanent solution. this is the cleanest and most secure way because the strap lays flat to the guitar and leaves the guitar clean without the strap connected (unlike the dimarzio leaving straps and clips hanging around)
Fender still makes the old schaller style strap locks.
Indeed they do!
I recently had the head of a Schaller strap lock break off as well, but right as it was nearly seated - so I had to have a tech essentially drill it out. I've been using Schaller strap locks for years and years and didn't think much about the newer design... until that happened.
BTW - For anyone who really likes the original Schaller strap button design, Grover makes that exact design today, and they are completely compatible with all Schaller locks. That is what I have moved to.
Grover does??? I had not idea! Whoa!
Neither did I @@RiffsAndBeards … until I brought the guitar to my tech after the Schaller debacle. He told me Grover made the old design, and had them in stock; so that’s what I had him install 👍🏻
I tried the Schaller first, 20 years ago, they were ok. The nut would come loose and I didn't care for the pull and slide to remove. Also didn't care for the asthetic.
When that first guitar for stolen I tried the Dunlop on my new guitar. The spring clip doesn't come loose, the thumb push and pull is much smoother, and I think it actually looks best of everything available.
I only have 4 guitars, but each one has its own strap with Dunlop locks. And when I install the buttons, I use a piece of toothpick in the screw hole. 2 guitars were gigged heavily for a couple years and I've never had an issue with them.
And they just look so good!
Loxx user on everything for 7 or 8 years here. Super fast, super secure, and they don't hold the strap a mile away from the guitar like some of the designs (I particularly hate the Dunlop ones that were fitted to my Mike Lull basses). Doesn't give you the option of using a strap without the attachments, but it's well worth that minor possible inconvenience.
I’ve have and use the same Ernie ball strap locks and they have been solid for me. Can’t complain.
I like the noise dunlop straplocks make. I jingle em around when I'm making feedback noises
Started with Dunlop. tried out the DiMarzio. Went back to the Dunlop, been using them ever since
.Still using a pair that’s from 07!
great video thanks for the info
I recently switched to the little rubber Fender strap blocks and I love them. After years of using the Schallers, I was sick and tired of them always coming loose, rattling, and even the screws coming completely out of the guitar body a few times. The Fender rubber guys are like $2 or something so I decided to give them a shot and now I'm never going back.
Fender & Ernie Ball make them, and ones fro beer bottles or stuff like that.
Dunlops (like the Ernie Ball) on all my guitars. Still have several sets in use from the 1980s. Never had a single issue.
The little rubber fender ones are my go-to
This was great I am updating a lot of my gear since I started gigging again after a 15 year hiatus. I personally have used the Schaller(old style), fenders (looks great but has been a real hassle cause it comes apart while playing), and the dunlap. love your content keep it up please.
Totally agree on Schaller; I have an old set, which is why I bought the new set unaware of the change. Hate the set screw.
I love the Dunlop dual design, but I actually don't use them as intended. Instead of locking the locks to the strap, I just put the strap on the guitar end of the lock and secure the bell lock over it. Still works, and the strap is closer to the guitar's body (common complaint with the Dunlops is they're further from the body).
The Dual Design don't have to be used with the locks to begin with - they have a classic button with the option to use the normal locks on top. I consider it a double lock because now I have the classic no-lock system holding it in place and the locking bell just guarantees it doesn't move.
Without locks, I have basses drop off regularly - even on my dad's bass that he's never had that issue with. I might just hold it differently, but it happens. I've never had a failure with the locks - even considering I use it different from the recommendation.
Schallers all the way for me. All I’ve ever used. All my schallers have regular screws, no Allen bolts. I had no idea Ernie Ball made them either.
Each of my guitars have their own strap. They stay on, locked and loaded, in a case, on a stand on a wall, they never come off. Rubber beer bottle gaskets. That's it. Screws, washers all of that crap moving parts that fall apart are rookie choices. Old is gold.
There's a MUCH bigger problem with the new Schaller design... Since they changed the the tightening mechanism from a nut to a thumbwheel, I was never able to get it screwed tight enough on my strap to keep it from rotating. Yes, I'm aware that there is a hole to run an hex wrench through, but I didn't have one long AND thin enough to be able to get much torque. Within 15 minutes of standing while playing my brand new Les Paul, the strap side of the lock rotated 180 degrees, and the plunger failed sending my new guitar straight to the floor. It's a MIRACLE that the headstock didn't break. Fender still makes the older style Schaller design, so I just buy those instead.
I've never tried the Ernie Ball locks, but I'll give them a shot next time I need new locks.
Let me get all the clip locks you don’t want anymore. Best strap on the game.
I used the Schaller straplocks once for my Gibson Les Paul Custom. One day it decided to let go and the guitar fell and snapped the headstock. Never again. I have used Dunlops since and never had a problem in over 25 years
Fender strap locks are my go to. They are the old schaller design,and ever work with old schaller. Best part, they only cost $10.
Dunlops for me. Must have for all my guitars. Don’t even need the lock most of the time. The button design is superior
I used schaller locks for 15+ years then brought a Dingwall for a new band project and it can with Dunlop dual strap lock and I’m never going back
I got the "old" Schallers a few years ago. Very happy with them for my guitars made in Europe and Asia. However, I could not use them with my USA made Les Paul. All the Schallers (and all strap locks, as far as I could gather at the time) shipped with metric sized screws. The LP however, had the original strap buttons screwed with slightly larger imperial sized screws with a wider thread. Meaning, the holes in the guitar body were slightly too big for the screws that came with the Schallers. And the heads on the LP's original screws were too big to fit in the Schaller strap lock buttons. Sure I could have ground the heads down a bit, but what the heck. Or I could have done the old toothpicks and superglue trick to plug the screw holes so that the metric screws would thread properly. I couldn't be bothererd at that point. For the LP I just use a regular strap and the rubber "beer bottle seals", same as Bonamassa uses.
I’ve always used Dunlop, could never get along with the flappy plastic DiMarzio thing. The other downside is you have to use that strap vs a nice custom strap. The EB system looks good though didn’t even know it existed.
I use the Dunlop dog bowl strap locks. I like the longer screw and the top button release.
great very old news thank you 😂😂
I love the Schaller... mostly. If I'm playing one of my guitars with a rear mounted strap button that strap lock will violate my abdomen in any energetic set. It does not look like the Ernie Ball would suffer from such a problem, so I'm quite interested in giving those a try!
Cool that you dove into a little detail like this my dude! The regular straplock thing never really made sense to me. They seemed like they would unscrew if you didnt pay attention. Hence i used these red, rubber rings, from Grolsch beers, to put over the strap/strappin which worked. But yeah, my straps got torn everytime which has led me to Dimarzio cliplocks. So far, pretty convenient and no tears in fabric just yet. The click thingy seems rather convenient too, tho all guitars have their own strap.
Dunlop have never failed me live or other but I also don't typically don't take off / re-insert often if ever. They are on all my guitars with no issues. My personal Fav! 100% agree it's good to take a look at things from time to time just for fun and to make sure something better is not out there. Goes for all gear. 👍
As a few other people have said if you like the old style Schallers you can get them from Fender. Be aware though that unlike the old Schallers they don't come with a choice of screw lengths, and if you have some leftover screws from an old Schaller set they don't actually fit (the hole on the Fender button is slightly smaller), so you'd have to source some separately.
In every other way though they're fully compatible.
While I'm mostly happy with the new S-Locks it's true that the hex screw is not always a good fit. Also, while they will sell a "Large" version of the button/screw piece, it's not as long as the long screw that came with the old sets.
I bought a guitar onto which a previous owner had fitted DiMarzio Cliplocks. Perhaps it was just the specific one I got but I found the plastic buckle was not cleanly moulded and kept pulling threads on my clothes. That guitar now has S-Locks.
This video is impeccably-timed. Only yesterday, I was having a similar discussion with my bandmates. They both use Schaller locks. As for me, for all the various mechanical lock systems, I honestly prefer the Fender rubber rings. They are just SO EASY, and I don't need to modify anything. I simply put on the Fender rings, and the strap is not going anywhere. They also come in a variety of colours, black, red, turquoise, sea foam green, so you can easily match them to any strap.
Of course, leave it to Fender to invent the best design, simultaneously proving simplicity is always the best design.
Better still, the Fender rubber rings are also the same price as picks, so I occasionally buy them in bulk, and give them away, the same as I occasionally give away picks.
I know some people are going to talk about guitar flips, guitar spins, and indeed such stupid showboating is the entire reason mechanical locks were invented in the first place. As for me, I don't, and WON'T do any of that. I do dance about on stage, but that is the extent of what I will do, and that is WHILST I a playing. The guitar never leaves my hands, so all I need is confidence in the strap itself not coming off the pins. For that purpose, the Fender rubber washers are everything I need, everything I want.
I wholeheartedly recommend, and endorse the Fender rubber rings.
I've been using shaller strap locks exclusively since 1985 when I was in high school. Every time I moved my strap would fall off. The original design is never let me down in his never broken unlike the new ones. One thing I've noticed over the years is straps like the DiMarzio don't have a rough side on the bottom. Most guitars that you find are neck heavy even if only a little bit. The energy you spend holding the guitar up hinders your playing even if only a little bit.
I've been using Hennessy locks for years. I love them.
Dimarzio cliplock. Never looked back. Never will. The best there is.
I always buy a new strap with every guitar. So I get a strap and a lock system with each one.
dude. the d'addario locks are insane and if you need them on multiple guitar you can buy JUST the nipple or whatever they call the piece the bolts to the guitar and they are not bulky like all other brands
Fender makes strap locks that are designed like the old Schallers. I use those because you can buy the individual strap buttons that screw into the guitar for like $5.
Grover makes straplock buttons that fit the Schaller straplocks that still use the screw/button design, and they're cheaper.
just amazing ....i`m doing this since at least two decades now and that has also just become kinda overall standard gear investment 🤣
I recently got an Ibanez that had what I think was a Schaller strap lock, and rhe clanking noise made me go nuts so after a very short time, I changed back the strap buttons to the original and put on some of the good old fender rubber rings as I always do. I don't understand how people can just ignore that sound and use those things.
I started using the D'addario Auto lock straps because they have the same "seatbelt" feel as the Dimarzio straps but don't require you to change anything. Another issue I've had with the dimarzio's is sometimes the provides screws are a different size than the screw the manufacturer used and I'm disinclined to re-drill the hole.
Schallers kept ripping my hair out so I switched back to Dunlop. Dunlops are slightly more annoying to get set up but I have more faith in the E clip then I do a part that comes loose over time like on the Schaller. I try to remove as many variables before a show as possible. EDIT - I'm referring to the older Schallers.
I don't use Ernie Ball strings, but I use the Straplocks, even when my coworkers tried to get me to switch to Schaller or Dunlop.
I use Planet Waves straps with locking mechanism built into the strap. Pretty simple.
I've been using the EVH method since '85 when I first started playing. Eye bolts & snap rings (like you might find on a dog leash). Never had a single strap malfunction.
Lowe's $2 rubber washers work just fine! Don't ask for the part number it's in a hard to find place as I'm moving soon!
I usually use Dunlop strap locks on my keeper guitars but on new acquisitions, I use those plastic Dunlop 7036 twist lock style. They work well enough and I don’t even have to break out the tools! 😂
Loxx strap locks are the bomb! Dont know why they haven’t gotten more popular… on all my guitars
This! Have Loxx on all my guitars as well. 😊
Love how low profile these look but the way it secures to your strap kind of bothers me.
gotta check out the Loxx strap locks they are simply the best around
Did not know about the Schaller update. Yuuks, it's sucks, I'm a guitar maker and I will never buy those again! Thanks Fluff!
I haven't tried the Ernie Ball locks yet but probably will. My favorite is DiMarzio ClipLocks, which are on 21 of my guitars. 2nd place would go to Dunlop Straplock Dual Design. Next would be the D'Addario Auto Lock strap, followed by Schaller.
I got into the DiMarzio strap locks in 1997 when I bought my first wireless system. The Shure clip did not fit well on my straps, so I always had to tape them for reinforcement. The clip lock system was perfect because when I wanted to switch guitars, I just unplugged the wireless transmitter, unclipped the strap, and switched guitars. Quick, easy, and I didn't have to buy a transmitter for each guitar I had. Theoretically, I could have done the same thing with the Dunlop system, but it was a bit of a pain in the ass to do it with one hand. The DiMarzio strap was easy to unclip with one hand.
Bought one set of DiMarzio Clip Locks for a PRS SE Singlecut. Last set I'll ever buy, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I went with a set of gold Schaller S-locks on my Epiphone Les Paul Custom. I like them better, but they're nothing to write home about. The quality doesn't seem to be there for what I paid. They just seem to bind instead of swiveling, which is exactly what you described, with the need to oil them. Dunlop and Ernie Ball are both about half the price, and they look better. I may go with a set of each next time around to see which one I like best.
I switched to D'addario strap locks from Schaller. I love the Schaller but my Schecter E1 has a pin on the backside of the body which makes the pin stab your waist or hip. The D'addario's are way more comfortable while using close to the same design as the Schallers
I just about a month ago got a really great deal on a bunch of Schallers and stuck them on all my guitars. I've also discovered that the Fender-branded ones are compatible entirely. It'd be nice if the screw wasn't built in, I do agree with you there.
STORY OF THE YEAR on the cover!
Sometimes I had to buy longer stainless screws and grind the head diameter down to fit in the old style Schaller strap locks.
Oiling them is a good thing too, keeps them from squeaking.
I’ve been using Schallers for 35 years. All of my guitars have them… Fender, PRS, EBMM. It only takes one drop to illustrate their value.
A couple of Grolsh beers, drink em while changing the strings, polishing the guitar, making slight adjustments, then use the gasket for the lock. Why not make a date night with your guitar? 😂🤘🤘
Thanks for the info. FYI the links for the different strap locks are missing Fluff
i've used schallers forever. the other day one of them just let go while I was playing and down went my chapman baritone tumbling onto my pedalboard. luckily nothing broke. I'm just using regular strap pins with the rubber washer lock overtop now. it seems to work just fine.
When fitting straplocks I always put a small amount washing up liquid on the screw threads, all my guitars have Schiller’s and never have an issue when driving the screw home.
I've been using Dimarzio since 06 and never looked back. A few systems I've used were too bulky or didn't have enough support for the strap. I like the slim design of clip-locks and would love to see more option with more colors.
ESP's straplocks are rock solid as well
The one thing that bugged me about most of the strap locks is that if you wanted to use the same strap on several different guitars, I'd have to purchase several complete sets to get enough buttons to use a single strap. It was expensive, and I had a bunch of extra locks that I didn't need sitting in a drawer. I use Dunlops, and I wrote to them asking why they didn't sell additional sets of buttons and explained my dilemma and also suggested that selling extra buttons would be another money-making opportunity for them. They never responded to my email, but a few years later, they started selling additional button sets. I don't know if it was my email that inspired them or not; there are probably a bunch of people who thought the same thing.
Dimarzio sells the fasteners on their own for $10.
Started with Dunlops, moved to S Locks. Both clunky and noisy. I just use Fender Strap Blocks. If Bonamassa can use them on a real deal burst, they’re good enough for my reissues.
I use the schalers but I use the original screw in the guitar. Ensuring a tight and unaltered hole.
D'Addario has the best design for strap locks... the only problem is the release mechanism on the strap end tends to break 🤣🤣
My brother uses this one strap for all but 2 one that is his Silvertone style P bass the original non locking strap are straps that lock D'Addario or Ernie Ball (I forget) due to how easy it is to remove and due to padding on one instrument strap a newer style Dunlop strap that locks. He needs for some cases a strap that removes easy yet will work with the original strap button due to the tight fit in the case.