As a black man I just never could get into Tyler Perry’s Madea. I noticed early on that it was always the black women who enriched TP from the very start.
Tyler going to he'll for mocking God , Satan slick he made all like a man in a dress. I love my African Amercan Brothers, and sisters a man can't dictate or chose who you are in life and I myself not trying to get approval from yt pippo, so who is really the coons here
C'mon now, Talk!!!! The majority of the time our sistas who are the main character are always mentally fractured. 💯 In the end, we don't have to support it. Much Love to ya 🤎
Actors like Denzel and Samuel L don't need Tyler. They are already famous. And really what adult grown man really is comfortable with with a another guy in a dress.
Katt....."He ain't put nobody on... The people that been in his production they not famous... all of them can walk through the mall without security" Is so fkn true!!🤣
Then he shouldn't say anything about Tyler Perry. He does his films the way he wants and let Tyler Perry do his films the way he wants. That man is not degrading black men by dressing as a woman. It's just a character.
How about the movie, "Diary of a Mad Black Woman"... It was a rich, bad guy and a poor, good guy in the movie. The poor good guy ends up getting the woman... I thought it was a great message...
Exactly! He's been down with the PTB for a long time. He has sacrificed his own mother and some of the ppl that has worked with him. When you play with the devil this is what you will succumb to. All for the love of money. Truly despicable.
Yeah, but that all can be taken from him at any moment if he gets out of line with the status quo. What does it profit a man to gain the world, but lose his soul?!?🤷🏽♂️
Je ne vois pas la pertinence. Perry peut jouer n'importe que rôle. Il a le charisme et éloquence. Je crois ceux qui veulent détruire son image son jaloux de son parcours, son studio cinématographique et autres. Pourtant ils étaient dans le cinéma avant lui et ils n'ont fait rien de concret. En tout cas Perry avance et les cheins aboient.
@@mikejames1477 I think he had spoken about giving a man oral when he was younger. I don't know the circumstance surrounding the incident, but it's been talked about several times before.
Robert Townsend made "Hollywood Shuffle" decades ago speaking to this issue. We're still here. Now we make the buffoon movies on our own. All money ain't good money.
I haven't seen anything he has made in over a decade and I haven't missed a thing. He uses the same script over and over, so much, I'm over it! Im also a dark-skinned, college educated successful professional, but in his movies, we're always the ho's 😢.
Daddy’s little girl, Gabrielle Union- was guarded but very successful and not regarded as a ho. Diary of a mad black woman- Elise was a faithful, married woman, not regarded as a ho. A madea Christmas- Tika- married, educated teacher, not regarded as a ho. But he “always” cast dark-skinned women as ho’s?
The problem with us as black people is the fact that we don’t like to be told about ourselves no matter the color of the person who tells it. We cannot continue to place the blame on other races when we are the ones that do the worse to each other in our own personal lives. Our culture never takes accountability over anything that goes on with us as a people. It’s always everyone else’s fault why we treat each other the way we do! Let’s keep it all the way real!
You've got a point. Tyler Perry aside, the black community seems to revel in victimhood...almost like we want to be terrible but don't want ANYONE to mention it. We should do better. Tyler be shady AF though.
I’ll take Spike Lee’s productions any day over Tyler Perry’s. Tyler Perry has sold his soul to Hollyweird’s evil owners and has been given orders to play down Black men😈
yes I grew up as a teen and young adult in the 90s black culture was everything from the music, TV shows, movies but now all they do is groom everyone to be gay and pit wars against black men and black women ,,, So miss the 90s
I disagree. I have no problem with his movies. I have problems with these Black actors, who went they make a lot of money, they leave our Black women and get white, hispanic or a Black woman who looks close to white.When they were broke, the black women held them up. He is depicting the true and we hate to see the truth. All black men are not bad but just look at the choice of the man who has the most money in SISTAS; who did he choose? I love his movies!!!
@@icemike1 TPTB took him out too and made it appear that his death was from something else, whereas those would be content with the way and how he died. When they want you to comply and you don't, the TPTB will eradicate in whatever way or fashion they feel necessary.
@jaybee5832 making dirty money and giving it away doesn't atone for sins. That's like a drug dealer saying I give to the poor. Tp is dirty and he is NOT a Christian.
Tyler Perry has been open about his father issues. This comes off and bleeds into his work. That's a result of never having had a black male hero in his whole life. Hope he can begin to do some introspection to heal those wounds through his work going forward.
@@lg_luvzgod1364 He said that his father was abusive towards him when he was younger.He could be lying about this.Haile Berry said that her father was abusive towards her and she has a twin sister that said these allegations of abuse never happened.
@@lg_luvzgod1364 for many years Black people have blamed white people for what happened it happened to them too. It’s not white people is those people that sit up very high and look at the people beneath them is checkers. They can play them however they please we need to stop saying Black people or white people, we are the people it’s not us. It never will be us. It’s those people just sit up very high and they nose and they head they feel is above the sky and as we see in time, God brings them down. We are in that time now we God is bringing them down so much have came out about those people. It has nothing to do with color because those people are like skittles, they come in a variety of colors They father was a dragon before he became a snake🙈 And don’t think for one moment that America is where they are based at They are tied to every country that’s why they’re so powerful🏦🙉 so open your eyes🫵🏾 we black and white must stick together and fight for what right?🥊
@@dwightlove3704Just because one twin claims there was no abuse doesn’t mean there wasn’t any. Plenty of children of abusive parents will lie and defend their abusive parents. It happens more than people being honest about their bad parents.
@@jmusic45 Well she once did a interview and said she has a TWIN SISTER on her first appearance on ARSENIO HALL she did not say anything about having TWO SISTERS.
I'm a black woman who has NEVER watched any of Tyler Perry's movies. His offensive movies reduce women to caricatures. I believe he is a closeted gay man venting his frustrations.
@saveyourbs @drataa hand to God on both y’all mommas and mine. I could drop more info here but yall wouldn’t be satisfied it’d just be the same cycle. Yall saying “prove it” “I don’t know sht” “You crazy” until like this 15yrs later. Did I give yall enough attention?? 👍🏽✌🏽
They seem to forget that Wesley, Samuel, and Denzel WEREN'T Wesley, Samuel, and Denzel when they worked with Spike Lee! They were in the beginnings of their legendary careers. Spike brought out a lot of A-listers BEFORE they were A-listers, just like The Wayans. So maybe the moral of the story is we need more black producers period! And Spike Lee joints didn't always paint us in a positive light either. He had movies about crackheads, drug dealers and a cheating black married man.....soooooooo.....😔. Our community need more "Blank Pantherish" movie themes and less "We all from the ghe-etto" plot lines.
True, but Spike’s movies depicted the truth about US…good, bad, and ugly! I dont rock with all of his films, but majority are good, even if they show more ghetto than anything. He also had messages either throughout the movies or at the end!💯
Ils sont simplement jaloux et aigris que l'on raconte histoire de leurs parents. Et en plus Perry a investi son argent dans le plus grand studio cinématographique qu'un noir possède. Il y a de quoi être jaloux quand a passé toute sa vie au être des nègres de maison pour mieux se faire voir. Que vous aimez Tyler Perry ou pas, non seulement il s'en bat les couilles et s'en fout royalement. Ce Tyler Perry vous n'allez jamais le détruire, vous n'avez pas les couilles
The idea of Black panther was created by white people lol. There are plenty of black producers. The answer isn’t always more. Where are the Asian, Latino, middle eastern producers? There’s plenty of white producers who create white villains and white people don’t whine. There’s an insecurity complex. Black people are clearly picking and choosing to watch this and yet people are still finding a way to say black people are being wronged. It’s obnoxious.
I think it was Spike who made a move called BAMBOOZLED watch that and you'll understand what he's talking about. Same thing can be said for Lee Daniels. Especially for the portrayal of black women, both of them hate us passive aggressively.
I think Tyler Perry ca😮n changed,Holly wood have problem😢s that racist, and is disrespectful like sex acts,why didn't black people open their mouth then.😮😮😮😮😮
One of the things that annoyed me most is at the end of “Why did I get married too” Malik Yoba got killed and then literally a minute later. The Rock showed up and everything was better. Like what?!
As a white woman I find Madea movies hysterical. But I never thought his characters were typical black folks. I know too many intelligent, classy black people to think that way.
It’s entertainment for me-and Perry’s work helped me to make changes to a toxic relationship- changes that I’m not sure that I would have I made. I know how I was raised and his “stereotypes “ don’t fit the agenda that I was born with
You don’t know many intelligent people, you’ll find that people are not only easily led to believe it but it’s reinforced by black people acting like the stereotype. If you don’t see that huge increase your not intelligent either
Why does everything have to be sooo serious it's comedy and entertainment... we need to just take a breath and learn to 😂laugh more we'll live longer ❤😂🎉
Not being raised in the US, whenever I encountered drama in communities I frequented, even in some churches I attended, I would feel like I was in a Tyler Perry movie and walk away from that toxic energy…
Alex Trebeck passed away and had NO SCANDAL, so why is his STAR IN HOLLYWOOD shown when you spoke about the sleaze happening in HOLLYWOOD?? That was disrespectful!! You should correct that and change that photo!
Let that statement sit in "You vote with your money/pocketbook, you vote with your time, sitting infront of an idiot box" I felt that....Thats why Im always on the road traveling and not just starring at a screen day in and out. I monitor my screen time monthly.
My eyes opened a few years ago about TP. Not all black men are negative nor treat women badly. I found that I was drawn to his movies that seemed to identify my current state of mind. His spirit started to rub me the wrong way, when I realized he used few white characters like they don't understand "black issues", black men presented as being abusive, women that work low income jobs or not at all until something drastic happens in their lives that forces change, and how can a black man that portrays being a woman understand what and how women truly feel about their daily struggles. Men and women are forever different mentally, physically and emotionally.
One of my ex-girlfriend asked me to go see the first Madea movie when it first came out. I didn’t laugh once. The whole theater was rolling and I was sitting there thinking, “this is the dumbest low-hanging fruit comedy I’ve seen in years.” Never seen another thing with Perry’s name attached to it.
Same. I first saw his stuff at a family member’s house during holidays. My aunt noticed that I didn’t like it at all. I hate the stereotypical scripts that set us back several decades.
Couldn't stand TYLER PERRY from his onset. Never watched ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF HIS. PERIOD. When you know you know. Its NOT just entertainment, he has sown horrible seeds. Smh. ALL MONEY ISNT GOOD MONEY.
I can honestly say that I enjoy watching the Madea movies, if Tyler wants to wear a dress on stage let him. But I don't agree with Hollywood pushing black actors into wearing a dress when they are not comfortable doing so, or it goes against their beliefs, just to keep their job. I agree with Spike Lee, When he says we can do better. There are much more positive ways to portray our black people.
This is why studying the Arts is so important. Going to school and studying the arts whether its writing, painting, film, dance etc., affords you the opportunity of truly digging in and learning what art is truly about. Most importantly, you sit through critiques and learn to critique yourself and others. Art--is a product of what it is like to be human. As artist we are responsible for creating human products. Sitting in class and learning to critique your work and what you are trying to say in your art is important. It teaches you how to THINK for humanity with your art. However, while Tyler Perry did not go to film school (Correct me if I am wrong) he is highly intelligent, business savvy and a nice guy who gives back to his community. However, his lack of training in the arts shows in how he thinks about his work. Filmmaking is a hustle for him. He doesn't think like an artist, he thinks like a businessman. He does not put in the full capacity as an artist and creativity. He does just enough to create a tv show. Spike and those other actors know it takes a whole specialized creative team. Script writers, various producers, hair, make up, production design, foley, lighting, sound design, film color, cinematography, editing etc to make a masterpiece or something that is amazing. His shows are entertaining but many of his characters are forgettable. The lighting and color are the same and don't push the boundaries and tell a story. I wish he would take critique. I wish he would turn over responsibilities to people that specialize in it and trust them. Go back to being an artist and not a microwave machine. Spike and those other actors went to school to perfect their craft. It would not hurt TP to take some classes, read some books, sit in some critiques, look at his work differently, let go of some of those reigns he holds so tightly, and hire and trust a creative team to push the boundaries. He could only go up more if he did. To me his most artistic work leans toward For Colored Girls and Jazzman's Blues.
My dad who was much more "Black" than I am, who grew up in the 1940's used to call spike Lee's movies coonery and bafoonery not in those exact words, he was always talking about how our depictions in tv and movies were going backwards from what his generation fought for, I tend to agree. I didn't see it when he was alive as a young man but as and older man he was correct and it's a damn shame.
@@michaelroberson7476 I just commented but I don't know where it went actually thinking back when my dad saw Malcolm X he was mad because they showed how black people straighten their hair back then with the chemicals and he said they shouldn't be showing white folks that.
Other than that I can't remember specifically, I mean it was at least 30 years ago. Some of the things he said I wouldn't even say, he would get real mad sometimes and that FN MF is acting like a FN N word. It was about people playing the stereotype.
Tyler Perry movies show the things that people don't want to talk about. He didn't make up these storylines; there are people who actually understand and relate, and they shouldn't be ashamed.
I dislike how people try to down play the success of others.....Tyler Perry is extraordinary and makes hit movies. I love his movies they all have realistic and educational endings....Stop being haters and be congradulators
@@smashedphone4200 So what? There are so many other movies that black men can watch. No one says they have to love Tyler Perry movies. I agree Tyler may be projecting his father issues. However, people are still watching his movies. At least Tyler Perry is not beholden to the white Hollywood studios. He owns his on studio and gives plenty back to the black community.
It is also not very woke in fact its against the employment law to employ only one minority , so how come he gets away with it . ?? That's the question people should be asking . He is one of the biggest racists on this planet . Sorry not sorry its the truth . Not his truth but the truth .
Black ppl . Are black ppl. We are all the same. Colorism is one of the dumbest things in the world. Colorist ppl as sick as racists. We are all born the way we are supposed to be. @@mosesbranch8798
Gonna make alot of people mad when I write this but it seems like many people dislike Tyler Perry for 2 reasons: 1.) they think he's a gay man which has nothing to do with his work. His portrayal of a woman is simply a character. Many other men played women. Big deal. Just a character. And 2) he is doing better than them. His movies, that they are criticizing, are making money. That character that they love to hate has made several movies and plays. That man owns a studio, tv shows, movies and is smart enough to know that the star/ main character gets the biggest check . The writer gets a check. The place where you shoot the movie gets a check ( his property or studio) and the director gets a check. And who are they? HIM!!
@@Christina-212No that's NOT it. Being rich and having your own studio and being smart is fine. MY issue with Tyler Perry is this... He built his empire off the hearts and money of BLACK CHURCH WOMEN while proclaiming to be an anointed child of God. But his shows are DESPICABLE. The unnecessary outright gay porn is problematic for me. He's living his perverted fantasies through his writing. I don't appreciate the LIE that God approves of and is blessing this. Satan is clever. No jealousy. Just disgust. I was his biggest cheerleader when he brought back prime time drama. I thought it was brilliant. He had the power and used it for pure nasty filthy evil! And now that he's filthy rich, he says if you don't like it don't watch, so I no longer watch nor do i support.
The 80s had Benson, Cosby, Good Times, 227, Different World, Gimme a Break, Jeffersons, andany more. Then many supporting roles like Magnum PI, Siver Spoons, A Team, Facts of Life, etcetera. Idk what people are talking about when they say black people weren't on tv.
In the 1960s there are examples like "Mod Squad" and "Man from U.N.C.L.E." Sammy Davis Junior did variety shows. I worked with, lived next door to, went to school with, and hung out with black people (1970s through the millenium). The media gets it wrong about the diversity of communities: not all were a segregrated mess.
Both Tyler Perry and Spike Lee have their own issues. Tyler's are obviously outlined here. Spike often likes to speak out of both side of his mouth. He claims to support racial equality and unity, and showcased some of the contradictions and challenges faced by those dating outside of their race/ethnicity in "Jungle Fever", but has boasted about disrespecting and "shooting daggers" at interracial couples. I have issue with any one person claiming to almost exclusively represent or portray their group. I didn't like it when Olmos, George Lopez, or Salma do it for Latinos. Every person is an individual and experiences culture/ethnicity in a different way, even within their own family. Similarities are obviously there but how the person perceives is also going to be different. So unless you're willing to make a million different Latino movies or a million different Black movies, no one filmmaker or TV producer can claim to solely represent their group. They just give us a small glimpse into how ONE person may experience it.
The only thing I can see is Tyler Perry's success. The man is talented. Some of his best movies are of him playing madea. While people are criticizing, he is running to the bank.
It's comedy. He's not the first to don a dress (Nipsey Russell, Eddie Murphy, Wayans Bros.). He's not the first to play on stereotypes for comedy (Wayan's Bros, 90's Black comedies, etc.) He's just the one who's managed to make a LOT of money doing it. I don't care for all his work, especially the tv shows (those camera angles - ugh!!). However, I didn't always like Spike Lee's work either. The ONLY reason he was ever an actor in a film was because it was his film. He was a HORRIBLE actor. That being said, his focus has always been more serious, issues based, and thought provoking. Tyler is about the comedy or drama of it all - for pure entertainment. We need both.
I only found three of his movies to be entertaining- “ Daddy’s Little Girls” starring Idris Elba and the 2 “ Why did i get married” movies and other than those films the rest weren’t that interesting to me. One major positive i do take away from Tyler is his studio is completely his (1st black man to own a major studio independent to Hollywood’s big three), secondly he employs close to 90 percent black at the studio and third he backs other filmmakers through his 34th street films arm of his company. So its almost a double edged sword when it comes to Tyler. We hate the imagery in a majority of his movies, but him keeping brothas and sistas employed on a such a major level can not be ignored- so its the good with the bad i guess.🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
That doesn't matter if you're self inflicting you're own people/audience & it hurts more than help he can hire 10,000 Black people he's hurting a lot more.
The only difference with that is they all had to in that scene or whatever right? Even the lead WHITE actor. It wasn't a situation where a lone black actor got singled out and ambushed with a surprise edit to the script and was asked to wear a dress. That would have made a difference for me too.
I am so glad ppl are starting to point this out makes me so fuqn happy. I couldn’t put my finger on it but pleeeease keep spreading the news!🙏 I always feel sick just from ppl ask me…you wanna watch this Tyler Perry movie? I always find myself having to beg them not to play it and hoping they don’t take it personal. I can’t stand how he makes black men look. I’ve been sayn it forever!
@@anastasiadavis7529 I don’t know what you are asking, but when you are an adult, no one can make you do anything that you do not choose to do. If I were offered a role by Tyler Perry and it was a role that went against my morals and dignity, I would just tell him no and turn down the money. Even if I’m being offered billions of dollars. Your value and character is far more superior than a dollar sign. But if other people accepted the role, I would not judge them because that is their choice. They better not complain years later when they are irrelevant and don’t have much money, say that this or that director did stuff to them and made them play that part lol.
Black Comedians for many years before Tyler Perry made jokes about black society. And we attended their shows. So what's so different now? Tyler is doing what has been done for years
Tyler Perry don’t need either one of them and Samuel l Jackson need not say anything when he accepted the roll in Django folks hate on Tyler Perry because he made it doing what others have already did and now he can sign the check for they ass don’t hate appreciate
You cannot be successful as a black person without criticism from people. Did anyone ever realize that he has evil characters as well as angel characters. He takes actors that no one knows and gives them a job. If they didn’t want to be in the movies, then they wouldn’t be in them. Y’all would be mad if he stopped casting black people all together and started hiring other folks. Let the man win- who cares what he chooses to do with his business. What are you doing with your business? Why don’t you go ahead and do it better. Make your own blueprint and go make it work over and over and over and over again. Give me a break. If you want success, you will be criticized. Who cares.
I DISAGREED WITH SPIKE MANY YEARS AGO, BUT ALSO, I DID NOT KNOW TYLER PERRY LIKE THIS UNTIL YEARS LATER WHEN SOME FOLKS IN MY FORMER COMMUNITY BASICALLY PROMOTED THIS DUDE, AND I FELT A LITTLE WEIRD ABOUT WATCHING IT UNTIL I REALIZED HOW FUNNY IT IS! WHILE ENJOYING HIS WORK/ENTERTAINMENT, I ALWAYS FELT LIKE IF ANY MAN CAN PUT ON A DRESS IS NOT REALLY A MAN AT ALL SO WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE THIS, 20 YEARS AGO I REALIZED THAT SPIKE LEE WAS ON IT THE ENTIRE TIME! EVERYONE HAS SPACE TO LEARN AND GROW, REGARDLESS OF WHO AND HOW OLD YOU ARE! THANKS, SPIKE!
"A lot of this is on us. You vote with your pocketbook." That's so true. Everyone is talking about what everyone knew about Diddy and a lot of these other people, but it didn't stop "y'all" from making them rich.
Its like this. Every black movie either trying to get money robbing banks or just got out of jail. Always has a black man or woman getting out of jail or going to jail. Tyrese movies for instance. He had to save his daughter how? Robbing a bank. 😢 Hollywood so racist
Unless Tyler do something illegal or inappropriate, he's going continue having the support he needs. I enjoy Tyler's work. When it comes to bashing men, women have been fisrepected and under valued for decades.
I'm with you. I can't understand why they tearing this brother down. Like or hate his material he found a lane and worked it and built his own studio. He gave people work and opportunities. Terrible and I have never heard spike Lee credit nobody other than himself. I watched girl 6 spike. Cmon
BLACK WOMEN MADE TYLER PERRY A BILLIONAIRE!!!!💯💯💯
Tyler Perry made Tyler Perry billionaire- brilliant marketing...great business acumen...
I agree with both of y’all
☝️@@monicar8875🐂💩!
@@monicar8875Tyler Perry was subliminally setting up our black culture to accept 🌈's in any form!!💯💯 Per his last movie!!
Selling black trauma and toxic masculinity isn’t brilliant at all it’s a money grab
As a black man I just never could get into Tyler Perry’s Madea. I noticed early on that it was always the black women who enriched TP from the very start.
My granny told me back in the 90's when Tyler was doing plays, he is a big cissy
My son hates Tyler Perry and has for years
Tyler going to he'll for mocking God , Satan slick he made all like a man in a dress. I love my African Amercan Brothers, and sisters a man can't dictate or chose who you are in life and I myself not trying to get approval from yt pippo, so who is really the coons here
And they call it acting rt the yt man have still have y'all jumping through hoops for money.God doesn't like Ugly and he not fond of cute😢
@@ronniehobson7051my mom said the same.
I am a 65 yr.old white woman. Spike Lee has never , ever made a bad movie. I fall asleep in TP movies
He also stereotypes black women, too!
C'mon now, Talk!!!! The majority of the time our sistas who are the main character are always mentally fractured. 💯
In the end, we don't have to support it.
Much Love to ya 🤎
Are you sure it's stereotypes? There’s plenty of truth to it. Let’s be real here. 😂
Wtf people he's a billionaire he does wtf he want with his money .
@@MsJtmayait's not about what he does with his money, it's the image of black people he portrays.
Right!! I was done completely done with that last movie !! Trying to convince us to accept bi,DL men and their 🐂💩!!💯💯
Actors like Denzel and Samuel L don't need Tyler. They are already famous. And really what adult grown man really is comfortable with with a another guy in a dress.
BIG facts
@@GeorgiaPound77 Not only are they famous they are financially secure
Words
the volkswagen Bettle, you know that one with the engine in the back
Denzel Washington is a very good actor Sam.You'll Jackson is another great actor of movies or incredible.They don't need Tyler like UA-cam b.S
Katt....."He ain't put nobody on... The people that been in his production they not famous... all of them can walk through the mall without security"
Is so fkn true!!🤣
😂😂😂
Angela Bassett, Ricky Fox@@SelfMussingand Jennifer Lewis were all famous before and doing really well after his movies. Tiraji P. Hansen, too.
@@TheFragranceNookLLC There are exceptions to every rule.
@@TheFragranceNookLLC but he DIDN'T put THEM on. They were already good
@@TheFragranceNookLLC And don’t forget Blair Underwood and Shemar Moore for me😍
Thanks Black Men! For standing up, and not put on dresses!!!!
NOW, THEY JUST NEED TO STOP CRYING LIKE BYTCHES 24/7.
The only ones I can think of that didn't were Denzel, Sidney, and Chad
why dont they stand up and tare care of their kids?
White chicks, big mommas house
@@michaeladam3190Always a racist baiter in every thread.
Real men ain’t falling for the bait
Spike lee is on another level. One of the best.
Then he shouldn't say anything about Tyler Perry. He does his films the way he wants and let Tyler Perry do his films the way he wants. That man is not degrading black men by dressing as a woman. It's just a character.
I Notice when Tyler makes a serious movie,he plays a smart successful character, while other black men and women play flawed, trifling characters 🤔
Not in Family That Prays
Facts
How about the movie, "Diary of a Mad Black Woman"... It was a rich, bad guy and a poor, good guy in the movie. The poor good guy ends up getting the woman... I thought it was a great message...
You ain't lying
Not in Why did I get Married
"What profit a man, to gain the world, yet lose his soul."
oh, about a billion dollars......and the meek shall inherit the earth, but not before the rich are finished with it!!!
@THE_HMRC money and time are deceptions used against the feeble-minded...
Thats so right
@@THE_HMRCthere is way more to the story than that simple quote
@@THE_HMRC The rich won't be able to enjoy wealth in Outer Darkness
It's not about the luxury he has, It's about the legacy he lives. Right now, his legacy is a walk of shame
Lololol "So he can have all the men to himself" I'm so weak 😂😂😂 I wasn't expecting that.
He outed himself. There are still white, brown and yellow. Why resort to bumbing 😂😂
TP is gay!! Sooo. Just saying
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@gregghenry5064 so is Charlemain
@@exia7777 I have to goggle him. I think I heard that name come up before
Tyler perry does what he's told to do💯
ALL MONEY AIN'T GOOD MONEY‼️
That part you right on
FACTS!!!
Exactly! He's been down with the PTB for a long time. He has sacrificed his own mother and some of the ppl that has worked with him. When you play with the devil this is what you will succumb to. All for the love of money. Truly despicable.
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Speak on it, baby. I agreeI 👍
By Tupac would have never played a negative role in Tyler Perry's movie! Thank You
Tyler Perry don't care what they say as long as he is getting Rich and Richer.
Yeah, but that all can be taken from him at any moment if he gets out of line with the status quo.
What does it profit a man to gain the world, but lose his soul?!?🤷🏽♂️
What is a MAN (TO GAIN THE WORLD 🌎 AND LOSE HIS SOUL🤔)? 🤷🏽♀️Perry is great' yet Spike said a wholeeeeee mouth full ❗️👏🏽
Stop supporting his lame cornball work.
Speak The Truth Exactly 💯
He's tight with Oprah. Enough said.
Tyler Perry in trouble with being associated with Oprah alone
No Mo Talk
Thank you..😂
Because Oprah is an evil woman!!!
exactly oprah and whoopi hangs with pedophiles and sex trafficker's tyler somhwhere in that scene
That's because they work for the same bosses.
Exactly 💯💯💯 she was just in house arrest last year like the rest of the billionaires like Ellen….he was on house arrest as well
That interview with Denzel and Samuel Jackson was on point. Good job🤷
Je ne vois pas la pertinence. Perry peut jouer n'importe que rôle. Il a le charisme et éloquence. Je crois ceux qui veulent détruire son image son jaloux de son parcours, son studio cinématographique et autres. Pourtant ils étaient dans le cinéma avant lui et ils n'ont fait rien de concret. En tout cas Perry avance et les cheins aboient.
Why does it have to be negative instead of the truth?
Spike Lee is just telling the truth and doing it with grace.
Spike Lee is a hateful POS that nobody should ever take advice from.
That's Spike Lee's opinion. EVERYONE HAS ONE!!!!!!
The man is processing his years of childhood molestation. It's not rocket science.
Is there proof of that? Just asking
Ding. Ding. Ding.
@@mikejames1477He shared his account of his abuse on Oprah.
Common sense doesn't need proof. It's in the pudding.
@@mikejames1477 I think he had spoken about giving a man oral when he was younger. I don't know the circumstance surrounding the incident, but it's been talked about several times before.
Tyler put the type of actors and actress on that Spike Lee would not even consider for parts in his films....please keep it 💯
I never understood how people could like Tyler Perry but hate drag queens.
Wow
Exactly.
Yet they also like Martin Lawrence and Robin Williams who also dressed like women
None Hayes drag queens… it’s the free pass to bullying misogyny we despise
it's not the same....Tyler Perry isn't playing a black guy dressing in drag -- he's playing an actual female character for comedic purposes
Robert Townsend made "Hollywood Shuffle" decades ago speaking to this issue. We're still here. Now we make the buffoon movies on our own. All money ain't good money.
Where is Robert Townsend? Another genius...❤
i was thinking the same thing
"There's work at the post office!"
@@jacobsmithjr exactly!
That is correct. We do to ourselves what the other man has always done to us.
I’m a black man who’s NEVER seen any of his movies!
DONT
And never will
@@JeromeRomero-x7i I WON’Tl
Ok you are going to heaven
Most black men don’t like Tyler’s movies; but black women are another story !
I haven't seen anything he has made in over a decade and I haven't missed a thing. He uses the same script over and over, so much, I'm over it!
Im also a dark-skinned, college educated successful professional, but in his movies, we're always the ho's 😢.
Nobody was forced to work for him or watch his products. No victims here.
Your dark skinned though right??😅
Daddy’s little girl, Gabrielle Union- was guarded but very successful and not regarded as a ho. Diary of a mad black woman- Elise was a faithful, married woman, not regarded as a ho. A madea Christmas- Tika- married, educated teacher, not regarded as a ho. But he “always” cast dark-skinned women as ho’s?
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But are letting their agenda get to u, black people hating black people
Spike Lee.
Be encouraged, you're the greatest integrity means a whole lot.
God is with you.
Spike,while cool, is human Too
He has some questionable alliances....mostly political
IS WITH WHO?
John Singleton is the best black director of all time.
God ain’t got ish to do with Tyler Perry putting those crusty wigs on the actors in his movie!
Let's not go that far … Spike did make she's gotta have it …not a Godly movie 🤷🏾♀️
Reasons why i love what spike lee, ryan coogler , Jordan Peele, ildris Elba are doing in their movies.
Not to get off topic but Idris’s British projects are all trash.
@@JustVee- your opinion.
@@bethuelchukwudi1015 have you seen his British shows?
The problem with us as black people is the fact that we don’t like to be told about ourselves no matter the color of the person who tells it. We cannot continue to place the blame on other races when we are the ones that do the worse to each other in our own personal lives. Our culture never takes accountability over anything that goes on with us as a people. It’s always everyone else’s fault why we treat each other the way we do! Let’s keep it all the way real!
Well said
Facts
You've got a point. Tyler Perry aside, the black community seems to revel in victimhood...almost like we want to be terrible but don't want ANYONE to mention it. We should do better.
Tyler be shady AF though.
FAAAACTS!!!!
I would agree with you.
I’ll take Spike Lee’s productions any day over Tyler Perry’s. Tyler Perry has sold his soul to Hollyweird’s evil owners and has been given orders to play down Black men😈
💯!
I don't know, Spike lost me after chiraq
My kids and I love “Crooklyn”
yes I grew up as a teen and young adult in the 90s black culture was everything from the music, TV shows, movies but now all they do is groom everyone to be gay and pit wars against black men and black women ,,, So miss the 90s
I disagree. I have no problem with his movies. I have problems with these Black actors, who went they make a lot of money, they leave our Black women and get white, hispanic or a Black woman who looks close to white.When they were broke, the black women held them up. He is depicting the true and we hate to see the truth. All black men are not bad but just look at the choice of the man who has the most money in SISTAS; who did he choose? I love his movies!!!
2 billion dollars and he refused to rightfully share it with the people who helped him make it.
Men don't put on dresses.
When Flip Wilson, Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence was doing it, nobody said a damn thing.
@@MuskogeeThey were just the start of what was to come. In other words, they were the test dummies. And now look where we are. 🤔
Say that again but real loud. Truth
@@Muskogeebecause those men you mentioned aren't suspect😂😂
@@Muskogee...because those men
you mentioned aren't suspect😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Katt Williams told the truth!
What is katt doing with himself besides talking about everyone. Why did a 12 year old beat his ass/ katt be out there on drugs wilding out
Nobody wants to hear that though @DTB64
Absolutely all his words have come to pass
@DTB64 no use been bitta and clueless all liars will be exposed including you Mr bitta
He didn't make himself, so what if a tennager beats him? Not everyone is physically strong@@DTB64
I totally agree with this video. Had never looked at it that way
Agendas are always looking for the next fool.
The closed caption for the Spike Lee interview at the beginning had me crackin’ up: “Culinary buffoonery.” 🤣
😂😂😂😂
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❤ his plays and his movies, these are things that actually happen to people in real life.
👏👏👏👏👏 Dave, Denzel and Samuale.
As my mom used to say..."You Can't Be Anybody But YOURSELF...BE YOU...PERIOD
Unless you're an actor 😂
@@cathridge what's acting have to do with YOU being YOU?
You don't like yourself...is that your problem?
Omg the SamuaLe 😂😂😂😂thats how my father in law says it!!! I can hear it 😂😂😂😂
WTF does that have to do with cooning.
Lol😂 Samuale🤣🤣🤣
John Singleton was my favorite
Never made a bad movie
Facts 💯@alejandromoore7158 Boyz N The Hood is still one of my all time top 5 favorite films
Missing JOHN
@@icemike1 TPTB took him out too and made it appear that his death was from something else, whereas those would be content with the way and how he died. When they want you to comply and you don't, the TPTB will eradicate in whatever way or fashion they feel necessary.
@@MsGlamorousFashionista What's TPTB???
Spike Lee's movies don't become blockbusters BECAUSE they represent our community positively.
There's NO difference between tyler perry and ru paul......
RU Paul just looks better. Lol
@@Terri-u4d No! It Is All Sad!
Only that Ru Paul is *PROUD* to show who he truly is.
Come out Tyler!🗣
There's a big difference Tyler employs around 500 people.
@jaybee5832 making dirty money and giving it away doesn't atone for sins. That's like a drug dealer saying I give to the poor. Tp is dirty and he is NOT a Christian.
Tyler Perry has been open about his father issues. This comes off and bleeds into his work. That's a result of never having had a black male hero in his whole life. Hope he can begin to do some introspection to heal those wounds through his work going forward.
@@lg_luvzgod1364 He said that his father was abusive towards him when he was younger.He could be lying about this.Haile Berry said that her father was abusive towards her and she has a twin sister that said these allegations of abuse never happened.
@@lg_luvzgod1364 for many years Black people have blamed white people for what happened it happened to them too. It’s not white people is those people that sit up very high and look at the people beneath them is checkers. They can play them however they please we need to stop saying Black people or white people, we are the people it’s not us. It never will be us. It’s those people just sit up very high and they nose and they head they feel is above the sky and as we see in time, God brings them down. We are in that time now we God is bringing them down so much have came out about those people. It has nothing to do with color because those people are like skittles, they come in a variety of colors They father was a dragon before he became a snake🙈 And don’t think for one moment that America is where they are based at They are tied to every country that’s why they’re so powerful🏦🙉 so open your eyes🫵🏾 we black and white must stick together and fight for what right?🥊
@@dwightlove3704Just because one twin claims there was no abuse doesn’t mean there wasn’t any. Plenty of children of abusive parents will lie and defend their abusive parents. It happens more than people being honest about their bad parents.
@@dwightlove3704Halle has 2 sisters but neither one is a twin. They are older.
@@jmusic45 Well she once did a interview and said she has a TWIN SISTER on her first appearance on ARSENIO HALL she did not say anything about having TWO SISTERS.
I think we need to EMBRACE Tyler and his creativity rather than criticize him. He is a great movie maker and deserves respect.
I have to wonder how many black men in America are like me and have never ever watched not one of Tyler Perry's movies?
Im a woman and have never wanted to or needed to
@user-eh5cr4or6k You can count me as another who hasn't.
They know that's why, none of tp movies are productive for us
I have never watched and I have never been interested. They just aren't enticing
Its a matter of taste. Nobody is forced to watch it.
Any Man wearing a dress is a bit Suspicious
and any woman wearing pants are likewise.
@@ceebrook1big-facts 💯
How?
Does wearing a piece of clothing make you suspicious
@@drewwar9344break open the Bible and see
That's a abomination in the Bible read Deuteronomy.
Spike Lee over Tyler Perry any day! 👏🏾👏🏾💯
I'm a black woman who has NEVER watched any of Tyler Perry's movies. His offensive movies reduce women to caricatures. I believe he is a closeted gay man venting his frustrations.
How do you know how he portrays women, if you’ve never watched any of his movies?
@@vene4739
Through advertisements. It's everywhere promoting Tyler Perry's movies and there's his live interviews on the social media networks.
He been out that closet lady 😂
Nobody was forced to play in his movies. They got paid and there was an audience. There are no victims here.
@@vene4739 lol right. Somebody lying lol
Yeah back in the day when I was calling out Tyler Perry, Drake, Diddy, Post Malone, Tyga etc ppl was calling me crazy smh
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You didn't say shit !
@saveyourbs @drataa hand to God on both y’all mommas and mine. I could drop more info here but yall wouldn’t be satisfied it’d just be the same cycle. Yall saying “prove it” “I don’t know sht” “You crazy” until like this 15yrs later. Did I give yall enough attention?? 👍🏽✌🏽
@@prolyx2315 to be honest bro I really wouldn’t pay much attention to it.
How can you call out people you don't personally know? 🤔
Why don't they get together and start their own studios instead of complaining about TP, like Berry Gordy and Don Cornelius.
Absolutely correct!
They seem to forget that Wesley, Samuel, and Denzel WEREN'T Wesley, Samuel, and Denzel when they worked with Spike Lee! They were in the beginnings of their legendary careers. Spike brought out a lot of A-listers BEFORE they were A-listers, just like The Wayans. So maybe the moral of the story is we need more black producers period! And Spike Lee joints didn't always paint us in a positive light either. He had movies about crackheads, drug dealers and a cheating black married man.....soooooooo.....😔. Our community need more "Blank Pantherish" movie themes and less "We all from the ghe-etto" plot lines.
There’s a difference between portraying poverty dynamics and wearing a dress for 30 movies
True, but Spike’s movies depicted the truth about US…good, bad, and ugly! I dont rock with all of his films, but majority are good, even if they show more ghetto than anything. He also had messages either throughout the movies or at the end!💯
Ils sont simplement jaloux et aigris que l'on raconte histoire de leurs parents. Et en plus Perry a investi son argent dans le plus grand studio cinématographique qu'un noir possède. Il y a de quoi être jaloux quand a passé toute sa vie au être des nègres de maison pour mieux se faire voir. Que vous aimez Tyler Perry ou pas, non seulement il s'en bat les couilles et s'en fout royalement. Ce Tyler Perry vous n'allez jamais le détruire, vous n'avez pas les couilles
How dare you post such truths and introspective showcasing something talking about How dare you!
The idea of Black panther was created by white people lol. There are plenty of black producers. The answer isn’t always more. Where are the Asian, Latino, middle eastern producers? There’s plenty of white producers who create white villains and white people don’t whine. There’s an insecurity complex. Black people are clearly picking and choosing to watch this and yet people are still finding a way to say black people are being wronged. It’s obnoxious.
I think it was Spike who made a move called BAMBOOZLED watch that and you'll understand what he's talking about. Same thing can be said for Lee Daniels. Especially for the portrayal of black women, both of them hate us passive aggressively.
Lee Daniels is a junior version of Tyler Perry
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I think Tyler Perry ca😮n changed,Holly wood have problem😢s that racist, and is disrespectful like sex acts,why didn't black people open their mouth then.😮😮😮😮😮
Bamboozled was an excellent movie!
@@GreenviewStudioGallery Self Hatred rears its head once again both of them have forgotten about the obvious.
Ummn Naww Tyler spot on, and its worse in real life, I know because I am going through it.
One of the things that annoyed me most is at the end of “Why did I get married too” Malik Yoba got killed and then literally a minute later. The Rock showed up and everything was better. Like what?!
@@dsouthernflyboi in the movie a year passes, and oh yeah the Rock is 🔥🔥🔥🔥♥️
It’s a year later when he appears.. She smiles at him and then the movies goes off.. what are you talking about??
Don't forget it was the wife's fault too he died
Unreal.
It didn't make sense.
Tupac WOULD'VE NEVER BEEN IN A tyler perry film
Yes the fuck he would have and Tyler Perry would have paid him Top Billing!
First Who Talking To Like You So Sure This dude Probably Wipes perry butt
Yes he would he was gay
I've never watched a Tyler Perry movie from start to finish.
Something is off .. just didn't know why. Now, I do!
Perry is 🌈 on a campaign
From day 1
So are you 🌈
As a white woman I find Madea movies hysterical. But I never thought his characters were typical black folks. I know too many intelligent, classy black people to think that way.
💯💯💯 I look at it as entertainment. And that's all.
Agreed
It’s entertainment for me-and Perry’s work helped me to make changes to a toxic relationship- changes that I’m not sure that I would have I made. I know how I was raised and his “stereotypes “ don’t fit the agenda that I was born with
You don’t know many intelligent people, you’ll find that people are not only easily led to believe it but it’s reinforced by black people acting like the stereotype. If you don’t see that huge increase your not intelligent either
Why does everything have to be sooo serious it's comedy and entertainment... we need to just take a breath and learn to 😂laugh more we'll live longer ❤😂🎉
Not being raised in the US, whenever I encountered drama in communities I frequented, even in some churches I attended, I would feel like I was in a Tyler Perry movie and walk away from that toxic energy…
We need more movies that helps build up the Black Family, not tear down the Black Family.
AMEN AMEN!! ENOUGH TRYING TO PUT EACH OTHER DOWN!! BUILD EACH OTHER UP!!
Then make some 🤷🏽♀️
Not being a fan of someone doesn't make you a reliable source
But he did speak some ugly truths.
That's right! Only rappers are allowed to reinforce negative stereotypes!
No...WE ARE complaining about rappers too! It all needs cleaning up
Alex Trebeck passed away and had NO SCANDAL, so why is his STAR IN HOLLYWOOD shown when you spoke about the sleaze happening in HOLLYWOOD??
That was disrespectful!!
You should correct that and change that photo!
Let that statement sit in "You vote with your money/pocketbook, you vote with your time, sitting infront of an idiot box" I felt that....Thats why Im always on the road traveling and not just starring at a screen day in and out. I monitor my screen time monthly.
My eyes opened a few years ago about TP. Not all black men are negative nor treat women badly. I found that I was drawn to his movies that seemed to identify my current state of mind. His spirit started to rub me the wrong way, when I realized he used few white characters like they don't understand "black issues", black men presented as being abusive, women that work low income jobs or not at all until something drastic happens in their lives that forces change, and how can a black man that portrays being a woman understand what and how women truly feel about their daily struggles. Men and women are forever different mentally, physically and emotionally.
Profound, and insightful words from you. Ten thumbs up.
Amen!!! Mo power to you, much respect for pulling your own coat tail
Boondocks called Perry, R. Kelly and Diddy out years ago.
One of my ex-girlfriend asked me to go see the first Madea movie when it first came out. I didn’t laugh once. The whole theater was rolling and I was sitting there thinking, “this is the dumbest low-hanging fruit comedy I’ve seen in years.” Never seen another thing with Perry’s name attached to it.
Honestly, i never seen one of em.
Amen
@@davids2977 Me either. Thank God. I'm not wasting my money and time on that nonsense
Same. I first saw his stuff at a family member’s house during holidays. My aunt noticed that I didn’t like it at all. I hate the stereotypical scripts that set us back several decades.
I bet the theatre was full of black women
I'm no big fan of Perry but dude, If you think you can do better like you say then. LETS SEE IT you're the big time director 👀🤔🤨🧐
Couldn't stand TYLER PERRY from his onset. Never watched ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF HIS. PERIOD. When you know you know. Its NOT just entertainment, he has sown horrible seeds. Smh. ALL MONEY ISNT GOOD MONEY.
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I can honestly say that I enjoy watching the Madea movies, if Tyler wants to wear a dress on stage let him. But I don't agree with Hollywood pushing black actors into wearing a dress when they are not comfortable doing so, or it goes against their beliefs, just to keep their job. I agree with Spike Lee, When he says we can do better. There are much more positive ways to portray our black people.
This is why studying the Arts is so important. Going to school and studying the arts whether its writing, painting, film, dance etc., affords you the opportunity of truly digging in and learning what art is truly about. Most importantly, you sit through critiques and learn to critique yourself and others. Art--is a product of what it is like to be human. As artist we are responsible for creating human products. Sitting in class and learning to critique your work and what you are trying to say in your art is important. It teaches you how to THINK for humanity with your art. However, while Tyler Perry did not go to film school (Correct me if I am wrong) he is highly intelligent, business savvy and a nice guy who gives back to his community. However, his lack of training in the arts shows in how he thinks about his work. Filmmaking is a hustle for him. He doesn't think like an artist, he thinks like a businessman. He does not put in the full capacity as an artist and creativity. He does just enough to create a tv show. Spike and those other actors know it takes a whole specialized creative team. Script writers, various producers, hair, make up, production design, foley, lighting, sound design, film color, cinematography, editing etc to make a masterpiece or something that is amazing. His shows are entertaining but many of his characters are forgettable. The lighting and color are the same and don't push the boundaries and tell a story. I wish he would take critique. I wish he would turn over responsibilities to people that specialize in it and trust them. Go back to being an artist and not a microwave machine. Spike and those other actors went to school to perfect their craft. It would not hurt TP to take some classes, read some books, sit in some critiques, look at his work differently, let go of some of those reigns he holds so tightly, and hire and trust a creative team to push the boundaries. He could only go up more if he did. To me his most artistic work leans toward For Colored Girls and Jazzman's Blues.
My dad who was much more "Black" than I am, who grew up in the 1940's used to call spike Lee's movies coonery and bafoonery not in those exact words, he was always talking about how our depictions in tv and movies were going backwards from what his generation fought for, I tend to agree. I didn't see it when he was alive as a young man but as and older man he was correct and it's a damn shame.
What movies would those be? School Dayz? Do The Right Thing? Or Malcolm X?
@@michaelroberson7476 I just commented but I don't know where it went actually thinking back when my dad saw Malcolm X he was mad because they showed how black people straighten their hair back then with the chemicals and he said they shouldn't be showing white folks that.
Other than that I can't remember specifically, I mean it was at least 30 years ago. Some of the things he said I wouldn't even say, he would get real mad sometimes and that FN MF is acting like a FN N word. It was about people playing the stereotype.
I stopped watching TP a while ago...Not a Spike fan either, but Spike was on point.
No Spike wasn't!
Me too, after he hooked up with Oprah he went way left!
@@msmarisadenise Agreed,When Spike Buddied Up With Oprah,I Was DONE With Him. A 🦝 Like All The Hollywood Types!!!
Tyler Perry movies show the things that people don't want to talk about. He didn't make up these storylines; there are people who actually understand and relate, and they shouldn't be ashamed.
I dislike how people try to down play the success of others.....Tyler Perry is extraordinary and makes hit movies. I love his movies they all have realistic and educational endings....Stop being haters and be congradulators
Say it again because I love him
You're his primary audience. Black men are not. He is projecting his father issues.
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Exactly
We have a history of not supporting each other but loving off what white people do
@@smashedphone4200 So what? There are so many other movies that black men can watch. No one says they have to love Tyler Perry movies. I agree Tyler may be projecting his father issues. However, people are still watching his movies. At least Tyler Perry is not beholden to the white Hollywood studios. He owns his on studio and gives plenty back to the black community.
here’s the problem with the argument… If he has all an black cast then who the hell is gonna play the villain????
Maybe some one light skinned
It is also not very woke in fact its against the employment law to employ only one minority , so how come he gets away with it . ?? That's the question people should be asking . He is one of the biggest racists on this planet . Sorry not sorry its the truth . Not his truth but the truth .
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Black ppl . Are black ppl.
We are all the same.
Colorism is one of the dumbest things in the world.
Colorist ppl as sick as racists. We are all born the way we are supposed to be. @@mosesbranch8798
How bout not having one period
Gonna make alot of people mad when I write this but it seems like many people dislike Tyler Perry for 2 reasons: 1.) they think he's a gay man which has nothing to do with his work. His portrayal of a woman is simply a character. Many other men played women. Big deal. Just a character. And 2) he is doing better than them. His movies, that they are criticizing, are making money. That character that they love to hate has made several movies and plays. That man owns a studio, tv shows, movies and is smart enough to know that the star/ main character gets the biggest check . The writer gets a check. The place where you shoot the movie gets a check ( his property or studio) and the director gets a check. And who are they? HIM!!
That's it🤷🏽♀️👏💐
@@Christina-212No that's NOT it. Being rich and having your own studio and being smart is fine. MY issue with Tyler Perry is this... He built his empire off the hearts and money of BLACK CHURCH WOMEN while proclaiming to be an anointed child of God. But his shows are DESPICABLE. The unnecessary outright gay porn is problematic for me. He's living his perverted fantasies through his writing. I don't appreciate the LIE that God approves of and is blessing this. Satan is clever. No jealousy. Just disgust. I was his biggest cheerleader when he brought back prime time drama. I thought it was brilliant. He had the power and used it for pure nasty filthy evil! And now that he's filthy rich, he says if you don't like it don't watch, so I no longer watch nor do i support.
The 80s had Benson, Cosby, Good Times, 227, Different World, Gimme a Break, Jeffersons, andany more. Then many supporting roles like Magnum PI, Siver Spoons, A Team, Facts of Life, etcetera. Idk what people are talking about when they say black people weren't on tv.
In the 1960s there are examples like "Mod Squad" and "Man from U.N.C.L.E." Sammy Davis Junior did variety shows. I worked with, lived next door to, went to school with, and hung out with black people (1970s through the millenium). The media gets it wrong about the diversity of communities: not all were a segregrated mess.
Both Tyler Perry and Spike Lee have their own issues. Tyler's are obviously outlined here. Spike often likes to speak out of both side of his mouth. He claims to support racial equality and unity, and showcased some of the contradictions and challenges faced by those dating outside of their race/ethnicity in "Jungle Fever", but has boasted about disrespecting and "shooting daggers" at interracial couples. I have issue with any one person claiming to almost exclusively represent or portray their group. I didn't like it when Olmos, George Lopez, or Salma do it for Latinos. Every person is an individual and experiences culture/ethnicity in a different way, even within their own family. Similarities are obviously there but how the person perceives is also going to be different. So unless you're willing to make a million different Latino movies or a million different Black movies, no one filmmaker or TV producer can claim to solely represent their group. They just give us a small glimpse into how ONE person may experience it.
None of those latinos ever sell out their race and cross dresses. Wtf ate you babbling about?
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The only thing I can see is Tyler Perry's success. The man is talented. Some of his best movies are of him playing madea. While people are criticizing, he is running to the bank.
It's comedy. He's not the first to don a dress (Nipsey Russell, Eddie Murphy, Wayans Bros.). He's not the first to play on stereotypes for comedy (Wayan's Bros, 90's Black comedies, etc.) He's just the one who's managed to make a LOT of money doing it. I don't care for all his work, especially the tv shows (those camera angles - ugh!!). However, I didn't always like Spike Lee's work either. The ONLY reason he was ever an actor in a film was because it was his film. He was a HORRIBLE actor. That being said, his focus has always been more serious, issues based, and thought provoking. Tyler is about the comedy or drama of it all - for pure entertainment. We need both.
I only found three of his movies to be entertaining- “ Daddy’s Little Girls” starring Idris Elba and the 2 “ Why did i get married” movies and other than those films the rest weren’t that interesting to me. One major positive i do take away from Tyler is his studio is completely his (1st black man to own a major studio independent to Hollywood’s big three), secondly he employs close to 90 percent black at the studio and third he backs other filmmakers through his 34th street films arm of his company. So its almost a double edged sword when it comes to Tyler. We hate the imagery in a majority of his movies, but him keeping brothas and sistas employed on a such a major level can not be ignored- so its the good with the bad i guess.🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I agree, he has successfully given other non famous people a great chance of fame, good movies have been consistent so far🏆👍
That doesn't matter if you're self inflicting you're own people/audience & it hurts more than help he can hire 10,000 Black people he's hurting a lot more.
Black men do not wear dress, Black men are strong. Black men are God's image😊
Matin Lawrence
..are highly unemployed .. highly uneducated
Spike Lee has room to talk. He portrays negative stereotypes of blacks too!
Chapelle must've forgotten he wore a dress in Robin Hood Men in tights😏🤷🏾♀️🤣
Yes he did
😂
The only difference with that is they all had to in that scene or whatever right? Even the lead WHITE actor. It wasn't a situation where a lone black actor got singled out and ambushed with a surprise edit to the script and was asked to wear a dress. That would have made a difference for me too.
I am so glad ppl are starting to point this out makes me so fuqn happy. I couldn’t put my finger on it but pleeeease keep spreading the news!🙏 I always feel sick just from ppl ask me…you wanna watch this Tyler Perry movie? I always find myself having to beg them not to play it and hoping they don’t take it personal. I can’t stand how he makes black men look. I’ve been sayn it forever!
I love his movies and you grow from them. They're very special one of a kind.
Anybody that creates a business, and it is legal, and it feeds people…they’re good in my book.
@@mickymickymike4105 White folks created a business killing and lyncing Black men for entertainment, is that ‘ok’?
@@mickymickymike4105 Legal but what about spiritually!!! How does or can he build women or men in characters that are degrading.
@@anastasiadavis7529 I don’t know what you are asking, but when you are an adult, no one can make you do anything that you do not choose to do. If I were offered a role by Tyler Perry and it was a role that went against my morals and dignity, I would just tell him no and turn down the money. Even if I’m being offered billions of dollars. Your value and character is far more superior than a dollar sign. But if other people accepted the role, I would not judge them because that is their choice. They better not complain years later when they are irrelevant and don’t have much money, say that this or that director did stuff to them and made them play that part lol.
I don't care what anyone says i love Madea
I have never cared for him or any of his work. He makes the black man look as terrible as possible while he tries to simultaneously be a black woman.
Black Comedians for many years before Tyler Perry made jokes about black society. And we attended their shows. So what's so different now? Tyler is doing what has been done for years
Time for a change!
Oversimplification. You missed the point.
It's a lot more nuanced than that especially when a movies is supposed to be taken "seriously"
But see.... that's the problem
I respect Spike and Tyler‼️ If you don't have anything good to say, then it's best to say nothing.
Whether you like it or not, it works for Tyler Perry. You be you and let him be him.
@@jeffreyhunter4991 He’s trying to force his will on other actors that work for him. That’s evil 😈
For he can have all the black men’s to his self is crazy 😂😂😂
Tyler Perry don’t need either one of them and Samuel l Jackson need not say anything when he accepted the roll in Django folks hate on Tyler Perry because he made it doing what others have already did and now he can sign the check for they ass don’t hate appreciate
You cannot be successful as a black person without criticism from people. Did anyone ever realize that he has evil characters as well as angel characters. He takes actors that no one knows and gives them a job. If they didn’t want to be in the movies, then they wouldn’t be in them. Y’all would be mad if he stopped casting black people all together and started hiring other folks. Let the man win- who cares what he chooses to do with his business. What are you doing with your business? Why don’t you go ahead and do it better. Make your own blueprint and go make it work over and over and over and over again. Give me a break. If you want success, you will be criticized. Who cares.
I don't see anything he did wrong... He found his lane and won and still winning! Who hires more black people than TP??? I'll wait!
that was no clap back, that was just him replying angrily
I DISAGREED WITH SPIKE MANY YEARS AGO, BUT ALSO, I DID NOT KNOW TYLER PERRY LIKE THIS UNTIL YEARS LATER WHEN SOME FOLKS IN MY FORMER COMMUNITY BASICALLY PROMOTED THIS DUDE, AND I FELT A LITTLE WEIRD ABOUT WATCHING IT UNTIL I REALIZED HOW FUNNY IT IS! WHILE ENJOYING HIS WORK/ENTERTAINMENT, I ALWAYS FELT LIKE IF ANY MAN CAN PUT ON A DRESS IS NOT REALLY A MAN AT ALL SO WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE THIS, 20 YEARS AGO I REALIZED THAT SPIKE LEE WAS ON IT THE ENTIRE TIME! EVERYONE HAS SPACE TO LEARN AND GROW, REGARDLESS OF WHO AND HOW OLD YOU ARE! THANKS, SPIKE!
They are movies. If you don't like them, dont watch them.
Shut up..
That's the bottom line.
Shut up
Wake up you are part of the problem
Yes. No more. Its ONLY MOCKING GOD and making women and black people look foolish
Idiot box is the truth. No moee
I've always felt his character portrayals were demeaning caricatures..
"A lot of this is on us. You vote with your pocketbook." That's so true. Everyone is talking about what everyone knew about Diddy and a lot of these other people, but it didn't stop "y'all" from making them rich.
Its like this. Every black movie either trying to get money robbing banks or just got out of jail. Always has a black man or woman getting out of jail or going to jail. Tyrese movies for instance. He had to save his daughter how? Robbing a bank. 😢 Hollywood so racist
Agreed 👍🏾 💯
Unless Tyler do something illegal or inappropriate, he's going continue having the support he needs. I enjoy Tyler's work. When it comes to bashing men, women have been fisrepected and under valued for decades.
I love him because he's a black man who had nothing to begin with but worked hard to get what he now has.
Wrong
He sold his mansion for over a million dollars 💸
That is where the homeless came from
He use is million dollar sold home to start his company
Black people are just the enemy of another successful black person! We are so obsessed with pulling each other down as black people
@@jamarwente1497 he was not born a millionaire. He worked hard for it.
I'm with you. I can't understand why they tearing this brother down. Like or hate his material he found a lane and worked it and built his own studio. He gave people work and opportunities. Terrible and I have never heard spike Lee credit nobody other than himself. I watched girl 6 spike. Cmon
Yeah, that's weak. Gotta do more than make money to gain MY respect or admiration.
I'm not that simple.