Imagine having the courage to voice your thoughts like that in front of millions of people, knowing that if you follow your thoughts dutifully, they will lead you onto an incredibly delicate and emotional ledge. But still you do it. If I had the verbal skills to perfectly capture how some music makes me feel, this video would be it.
His is expressing and relieving the emotional response he feels when all rational thinking goes out of the window and there are no words in that moment. It's beautiful! ❤️
Sounds like he's absolutely Ripe for seeing Phish do a stellar Harry Hood or Slave to the traffic Light. I can imagine him staring open-mouthed at the light show and buckling at the knees at the end and collapsing into a happy heap of joy 😊. It could maybe fix him.
Seriously it's like going to a punk show and u get in and the music kicks off and the crowd goes crazy and in that moment everyone around you is where they have been so longing to be a glimpse of what you are in that crowd yk
Thank you for this excerpt. I love how it describes my relationship with music. I love raves, and I don’t do drugs on them. Music and feeling connected with the crowd is the thing I love. It’s indeed something akin to religious experience. I was listening to the podcast on Spotify and wanted to share this part with a friend. Can you tell me why the whole video is not on Joe Rogan UA-cam channel like other podcasts? Will it be there after some time?
You are probably watching full Joe Rogan episodes that came out before he signed his Spotify contract, as everything that is a full episode is only on that platform. If you have a spotify account it came out a few days ago. Where can I listen to your music
Nice to hear about similar tastes and experiences, glad you too enjoy it. I just love trance, house and progressive. I wish I could share with people what I feel when listening to music, I have these moments of such a high feeling, its not all the time, but often enough that makes me addicted to it. I often chase this music high and when I get it, changes me little by little, I use this process to renew hope, dreams, or to amplify feelings that need to be worked on whether sad or happy. It is similar to a flow state, every thought, emotion, body vibration goes into auto pilot and things just flow, everything is just right. I'd be very interested to find places where people discuss these things as I am curious to hear if people have similar experiences.
I love that there's an intelectual person that can explain exactly what I'm feeling about music. I was in Nashville and Luke Mcqueary is a fenomenal player.
100%! Luke is freaking amazing, as well as the rest of the band. Just seen him again twice this weekend while in Nashville. Probably about the seventh or eighth time I’ve seen Kelly Heroes, and there will be many more!
I'm 27 and self-taught in guitar for 11 years (not bragging I was just too lazy to learn theory) and to hear what JP says about the improv guitarist and their influence on people's lives is spot on. If I could be brutally honest, playing guitar isn't only what makes me truly happy and ultimately saved my life, but I'm convinced it also helped so many people who had the chance to sit, listen, and let go of their demons for just a minute or two before they come back to reality. Any guitarist should try this; Go busking on the street if you know how to improvise or even join in on a jam with some friends and people listening, play your part but DONT OPEN YOUR EYES. When you're at the end of the song open them. Notice how many people were there before and after you've decided to close your eyes. THAT to me is the example of what JP is talking about, people will come up to you and not just say good job or that was amazing, but thank you, I needed this. There's nothing more beautiful in the world to me than bringing people together by talking to them without words, just sound. It seems to channel their hearts easier than language itself.
I used to be quite a fan but now the more I see and hear him, the more I think he’s a rambling madman who just talks nonsense. And the non stop weeping. I honestly don’t think he’s a well man. In this conversation, he denied climate change exists and also said most black people are not really black, they are brown. I mean wtf. And this guy is the great thinker of our time apparently.
Your other points may be fair but honestly his depiction of the musician’s performance and the effect it had on the people there was beautiful and I don’t see how anyone can disagree with that.
What exactly nonsense do you find in this particular part about music? He describes perfectly my feelings on a rave or a concert. As far as climate change goes, I don’t think he denies it, but says that it’s not a simple unidimensional problem with some simple solution. Don’t notice any nonsense about that either.
@@antonlapygin573 everything he said on climate change is utterly moronic and objectively incorrect (to say the least!) - 'What is climate? Climate is like everything. And what do you mean when you speak about everything? Nothing, really. So nothing really changes'. It would be hilarious if he didn’t have such a large following who hang on his every word. I had to turn it off following that bit, it was like listening to two post lobotomy patients have a chat in a bar.
I have a couple of friends who don't care for him at all. I can only guess that they are responding to a media-created caricature/distortion of the wonderful person that Peterson is. It's a shame. They're missing out on so much.
@@triscat In this conversation, he denied climate change exists and also said most black people are not really black, they are brown. I mean wtf. And this guy is the great thinker of our time apparently. Your friends are not missing much.
@@dewanmdurnto3592 that sounds exactly like thoughtless regurgitated bullshit, perpetuated but the media. Good for you, you've done your part well 👏 In this conversation, they both check each other quite often, admit when they're wrong, and accept that they have learned something new. They frequently ask each other very pressing and important questions, BECAUSE they want to learn and grow. Do you ever do any of that? By the way, it's true. There are no purely black or white people. We're all shades of brown. In the conversation, they talk about that, and the fact that darker people are historically more oppressed, but have also developed a victim mentality as a result of that. It's not to say any color is superior to another, it's just an observation of facts. Once you introduce emotion into the equation, then it gets complicated.
He’s on the mend in this interview. Those Benzos will snatch your soul and the chances of recovering it are pretty slim. Kudos to JP for staying in the fight and from all reports and observation seems to have picked up a victory in his campaign to sobriety. No easy feat.
I really feel like he’s emotionally unstable right now, he’s clearly having trouble being off the meds he was on, it’s not normal to cry at something like this at all I feel
Think about this . The number 7 is everywhere in the bible . The true rainbow has 7 colors . Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet Music has 7 named primary diatonic notes of the major scale . A B C D E F G In the baseline cases below - the presence and intensity of the light will be constantly on and not flashing and the audio tones will be sounded for a regulated duration, volume and speed . At comfortable brightness -> Low frequency light - colors - red orange yellow and combinations - are soothing ( relax more ) Medium frequency light - colors yellow green blue and combinations - are neither soothing nor exiting - they are comforting ( everything is ok ) High frequency light - colors blue indigo violet and combinations - are exiting ( do more ) At comfortable volumes -> Low frequency audio tones and combinations - are soothing ( relax more ) Medium frequency audio tones and combinations - are neither soothing nor exiting - they are comforting ( everything is ok ) High frequency audio tones and combinations - are exiting ( do more ) In both cases, it is evident that variations in volume / intensity / duration of presence and speed of change / repetition - always contribute to or counter the effects that are observed when regulated baseline conditions are maintained . Just as the variation in frequencies / intensity / duration of presence of light are correspondingly effective, in the same way - variations in frequencies / volume / duration of presence of audio are correspondingly effective .
This would be a beautiful and tender moment if Peterson was a poet, musician, or mystic, but he isn’t. He is a serious intellectual who has earned the respect and admiration of millions of people who often look to him for guidance. So, to see him rambling like this, especially if you listen to the rest of this interview, it is quite disappointing. He makes very bold and firm claims with absolute certainty, but if you carefully consider the CONTENT of his ideas it is all word salad.
He's expressing a religious point of view. He didn't say it in the interview, but he's talking about the Holy Spirit in this clip. I think you're just misunderstanding him.
@@gofish7388 "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." Albert Einstein This is a very charitable take on my part. It's funny that you think him talking about religion would make it make sense tho. 😂
What a ridiculous statement. You invalidated him because you can't comprehend the layers or aren't comfortable with it. People are multi-faceted and this man has depth. It is beautiful no matter when someone is able to be this in tune with life and can be this real about it. What you see is what you get with him. To not recognize nuances and just see life as black and white is the true disappointment.
I don't think he can play an instrument. If he was a working musician in big orchestra he might cry about having to play the same shite night after night and moan about his shitty contract of employment instead. 😂 He claims music can't be rationally critiqued. 😂 Muzak and elevator music are now telling us something profound about the universe. What nonsense. He's irrational.
@@aryamansingh7452 is he? So how are you judging what's good if music can't be objectively criticised? Lol. No wonder you like Peterson; you don't make sense either. He's talking about music. If you can't be objective about music then you can't say what's good or bad can you? 😂
@@MrGhostTube I understand where you're coming from. To clarify my credentials, I've been playing guitar for 8 years now. And I listen to Steely Dan - they've made some of the most complex pop music ever recorded - and that's an objective analysis considering they used Jazz Harmony and unusual chord voicings very extensively. Obviously, an orchestra musician will get frustrated playing the same thing over and over again. That's the definition of monotony. But that's unrelated to what Peterson is saying.
@@aryamansingh7452 it's not unrelated at all. You recognise that music is complex and has the capability to generate strong emotional responses in people. That's an emotional trigger not some kind of universal truth about life. Would you make such a claim for visual stimuli that do the same thing? If I take DMT or LSD and it generates strong emotions am I touching the truth or just responding to the chemical reactions in my brain? If a picture stirs emotions does it automatically contain the truth? If I shout obscenities at you and I get a strong emotional response am I automatically speaking a fundamental truth? For context I played bass guitar in a band for years and I have an extensive music collection that spans most genres. I make electronic music. What Peterson is doing is taking an obvious truism and expanding it into something its not. He does it all the time. Music is many things to many people. He probably confines the truth in music to western classical work much as he believes that the Bible is a prerequisite for truth because he believes it was 'the first book'. You can't discount types of music if you make claims about music in general. Honestly I don't understand how people take this man seriously. He's a psych professor who says he didn't know benzos were addictive. They're psych meds. 😂 He Iectures people on living their lives when he can't get his own in order without drugs. 😂
This guy is the oddest of ducks. He always seems on the precipice of emotional collapse. He takes himself way too seriously, and is all over the place. He's exactly the kind of weirdo the terminally online would idolize.
"People think of music as a non-representational art." That statement alone shows what an intellectual charlatan this man is. Which people? Where? Where is the research evidence? On top of that he clearly has no idea what 'Programme music' is, let alone what some of the great composers were aiming to represent through their work. Someone please put him out of our misery.
i understand what he’s talking about but it’s not music; it’s math it’s a mushroom thought that’s why he’s crying about it lol; we like patterns in general, and he differentiates music and sound (which i don’t like) because you can have sound with pattern and not call it music; because we aren’t really aware of sound because we’ve always had it. once you start becoming aware of sound you can notice the math and I think that’s true about every fundamental element of the universe. lines curves, light sound, push and pulls, protons and electrons
Yes but I think the point he’s making with music is that it communicates with us much more directly than with other things. Also Peterson cries all the time lol. I think he’s partially just emotional like that and partially a little wonky from the drug abuse.
This reminds of when a friend tries to explain an acid trip to me.
That's what an acid trip is. Surfing on the edge of chaos and order.
@@gusandthetv Thats what the universe is
I came down to check that I am not the only one.
Amen
@@gusandthetv no it isn't. It's just a chemically induced state produced by the LSD triggering Seratonin receptors.
Imagine having the courage to voice your thoughts like that in front of millions of people, knowing that if you follow your thoughts dutifully, they will lead you onto an incredibly delicate and emotional ledge. But still you do it. If I had the verbal skills to perfectly capture how some music makes me feel, this video would be it.
Agreed. You must be a musician.
His is expressing and relieving the emotional response he feels when all rational thinking goes out of the window and there are no words in that moment. It's beautiful! ❤️
Completely agree!
Lol
Anyone who "gets" Hank Williams can't be all bad.
Thank you been trying to find where in the podcast this happened for a couple days
He cried man tears; the rarest kind.😔
He crys all the time, he's a wimpy Kermit the frog sounding dude
Rare? He's constantly crying about the most random things
Little beta tears
*Projection* … projection as far as the eye can see😂
@@lildafodil1577 Boy,can make folks feel what you feel inside? If you're big star bound let me tell you it's a long hard ride.
Who let Peterson out of ward C?
By coincidence i just saw this band live last night, what a great show!
He knows a lot of words, that’s for sure. I’m not convinced it’s totally coherent though.
He's so good at tricking dummies into thinking he's smart 😂
"Not convinced it's totally coherent" roughly translates to "but I don't know what they all mean" 😂😂
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that that something is meaningless
@@bristow4784 I would say ‘incoherent’ in this setting is referring to Jordons lack of structure and consistency in his statements.
Sounds like he's absolutely Ripe for seeing Phish do a stellar Harry Hood or Slave to the traffic Light. I can imagine him staring open-mouthed at the light show and buckling at the knees at the end and collapsing into a happy heap of joy 😊. It could maybe fix him.
If the feels you get when you listen to music are fundamental truth then I assume that facts do care about my feelings... 🤔
You're right, truth does care about your feelings in the long run maybe but not when you don't want to hear it.
This is a good point haha
You have a point.
its a spiritual experience. this music.
Seriously it's like going to a punk show and u get in and the music kicks off and the crowd goes crazy and in that moment everyone around you is where they have been so longing to be a glimpse of what you are in that crowd yk
man discovered the blues i see
Thank you for this excerpt. I love how it describes my relationship with music. I love raves, and I don’t do drugs on them. Music and feeling connected with the crowd is the thing I love. It’s indeed something akin to religious experience. I was listening to the podcast on Spotify and wanted to share this part with a friend. Can you tell me why the whole video is not on Joe Rogan UA-cam channel like other podcasts? Will it be there after some time?
You are probably watching full Joe Rogan episodes that came out before he signed his Spotify contract, as everything that is a full episode is only on that platform. If you have a spotify account it came out a few days ago. Where can I listen to your music
Nice to hear about similar tastes and experiences, glad you too enjoy it.
I just love trance, house and progressive. I wish I could share with people what I feel when listening to music, I have these moments of such a high feeling, its not all the time, but often enough that makes me addicted to it. I often chase this music high and when I get it, changes me little by little, I use this process to renew hope, dreams, or to amplify feelings that need to be worked on whether sad or happy. It is similar to a flow state, every thought, emotion, body vibration goes into auto pilot and things just flow, everything is just right.
I'd be very interested to find places where people discuss these things as I am curious to hear if people have similar experiences.
I love that there's an intelectual person that can explain exactly what I'm feeling about music. I was in Nashville and Luke Mcqueary is a fenomenal player.
100%! Luke is freaking amazing, as well as the rest of the band. Just seen him again twice this weekend while in Nashville. Probably about the seventh or eighth time I’ve seen Kelly Heroes, and there will be many more!
Wave frequency - it unites light and sound. Aum.
Esoteric take here.
This makes it easier to understand how his daughter ended up as a single mom.
It also clarifies your status as a shallow douche nozzle.
where can I watch this full version of video?
Spotify
I'm 27 and self-taught in guitar for 11 years (not bragging I was just too lazy to learn theory) and to hear what JP says about the improv guitarist and their influence on people's lives is spot on. If I could be brutally honest, playing guitar isn't only what makes me truly happy and ultimately saved my life, but I'm convinced it also helped so many people who had the chance to sit, listen, and let go of their demons for just a minute or two before they come back to reality. Any guitarist should try this; Go busking on the street if you know how to improvise or even join in on a jam with some friends and people listening, play your part but DONT OPEN YOUR EYES. When you're at the end of the song open them. Notice how many people were there before and after you've decided to close your eyes. THAT to me is the example of what JP is talking about, people will come up to you and not just say good job or that was amazing, but thank you, I needed this. There's nothing more beautiful in the world to me than bringing people together by talking to them without words, just sound. It seems to channel their hearts easier than language itself.
Luke Mcqueary is the great guitarist. He is something.
'Jordan Peterson intellectualises and breaks down over going to a blues gig'
Oh god he's crying again
I used to be quite a fan but now the more I see and hear him, the more I think he’s a rambling madman who just talks nonsense. And the non stop weeping. I honestly don’t think he’s a well man. In this conversation, he denied climate change exists and also said most black people are not really black, they are brown. I mean wtf. And this guy is the great thinker of our time apparently.
What aspect of him initially made you a fan? I haven't been paying attention.
Your other points may be fair but honestly his depiction of the musician’s performance and the effect it had on the people there was beautiful and I don’t see how anyone can disagree with that.
@@RareBlitz Yes I agree with you. He is essentially talking about reaching ‘The Zone’ by mentioning athletics, etc.
What exactly nonsense do you find in this particular part about music? He describes perfectly my feelings on a rave or a concert. As far as climate change goes, I don’t think he denies it, but says that it’s not a simple unidimensional problem with some simple solution. Don’t notice any nonsense about that either.
@@antonlapygin573 everything he said on climate change is utterly moronic and objectively incorrect (to say the least!) - 'What is climate? Climate is like everything. And what do you mean when you speak about everything? Nothing, really. So nothing really changes'. It would be hilarious if he didn’t have such a large following who hang on his every word. I had to turn it off following that bit, it was like listening to two post lobotomy patients have a chat in a bar.
Jordan Peterson, psychologically breaking down vibin’
this is like when fry saw that color
Maybe it's not always so good to think that deeply 😮
Tear ducts are open folks
He’s a bit too esoteric about this topic to my taste, but it’s nice to see him being moved by music that much…
this comment is a bit too esoteric.😉
This pissy-eyed fruit cries at anything and everything. He's an absolute wreck.
what do you mean he is a madman
When is this dude not crying???
Jordan does the same thing with his words that legendary guitar players do with their strings. Enough to tear me up.
I cried with him- every single word of his description is true.
A heavy blews rawk twest..
A random hillbilly plink plonking on his guitar made Jordan cry. The benzos must have been good that night.
I was listening to this and it completely took me by surprise. Such a beautiful man, how could anyone hate him??
Thank you for commenting. I’m happy to hear that it took you by surprise. I myself was floored.
Put a man in an empty room and there will be hate.
I have a couple of friends who don't care for him at all. I can only guess that they are responding to a media-created caricature/distortion of the wonderful person that Peterson is. It's a shame. They're missing out on so much.
@@triscat In this conversation, he denied climate change exists and also said most black people are not really black, they are brown. I mean wtf. And this guy is the great thinker of our time apparently. Your friends are not missing much.
@@dewanmdurnto3592 that sounds exactly like thoughtless regurgitated bullshit, perpetuated but the media. Good for you, you've done your part well 👏
In this conversation, they both check each other quite often, admit when they're wrong, and accept that they have learned something new. They frequently ask each other very pressing and important questions, BECAUSE they want to learn and grow. Do you ever do any of that?
By the way, it's true. There are no purely black or white people. We're all shades of brown. In the conversation, they talk about that, and the fact that darker people are historically more oppressed, but have also developed a victim mentality as a result of that. It's not to say any color is superior to another, it's just an observation of facts. Once you introduce emotion into the equation, then it gets complicated.
I wish someone would trascribe this for me
Do you want me to recommend some books?
@@elkminister4444 yes, please
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). MUSIC IS WATT TELLS US THA THE HUEMAN RACE IS GREATER THAN WEE REAL-EYE
Nuts!!!
and he's gonna be the first one to accuse someone of being emotional
I have never heard him accuse someone of being emotional.
He’s on the mend in this interview. Those Benzos will snatch your soul and the chances of recovering it are pretty slim. Kudos to JP for staying in the fight and from all reports and observation seems to have picked up a victory in his campaign to sobriety. No easy feat.
He may have been on the mend but everything he said in this interview is accurate.
@@elkminister4444 very accurate
😂😂😂EDM beat makers..
Do your stuff😙
Kelly's heroes.. the guitarist he is taking about must be Daniel
it's Luke
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I love this man so much.
I really feel like he’s emotionally unstable right now, he’s clearly having trouble being off the meds he was on, it’s not normal to cry at something like this at all I feel
Think about this .
The number 7 is everywhere in the bible .
The true rainbow has 7 colors . Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet
Music has 7 named primary diatonic notes of the major scale . A B C D E F G
In the baseline cases below - the presence and intensity of the light will be constantly on and not flashing and the audio tones will be sounded for a regulated duration, volume and speed .
At comfortable brightness ->
Low frequency light - colors - red orange yellow and combinations - are soothing ( relax more )
Medium frequency light - colors yellow green blue and combinations - are neither soothing nor exiting - they are comforting ( everything is ok )
High frequency light - colors blue indigo violet and combinations - are exiting ( do more )
At comfortable volumes ->
Low frequency audio tones and combinations - are soothing ( relax more )
Medium frequency audio tones and combinations - are neither soothing nor exiting - they are comforting ( everything is ok )
High frequency audio tones and combinations - are exiting ( do more )
In both cases, it is evident that variations in volume / intensity / duration of presence and speed of change / repetition - always contribute to or counter the effects that are observed when regulated baseline conditions are maintained . Just as the variation in frequencies / intensity / duration of presence of light are correspondingly effective, in the same way - variations in frequencies / volume / duration of presence of audio are correspondingly effective .
There are more than 7 notes in music. In reality there an infinite combination of tones/scales.
@@elkminister4444
Yes - you are correct - I will modify my posting .
3:30
This man is broken. He’s done. He should disappear from the public scene.
This would be a beautiful and tender moment if Peterson was a poet, musician, or mystic, but he isn’t. He is a serious intellectual who has earned the respect and admiration of millions of people who often look to him for guidance. So, to see him rambling like this, especially if you listen to the rest of this interview, it is quite disappointing. He makes very bold and firm claims with absolute certainty, but if you carefully consider the CONTENT of his ideas it is all word salad.
Nobody should look to him for guidance unless they themselves need help making a word salad.
He's expressing a religious point of view. He didn't say it in the interview, but he's talking about the Holy Spirit in this clip. I think you're just misunderstanding him.
@@gofish7388 "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
Albert Einstein
This is a very charitable take on my part. It's funny that you think him talking about religion would make it make sense tho. 😂
@@MrGhostTube He explained it pretty damn clearly. He just didn't say it out loud. Anyone who follows his stuff can tell.
What a ridiculous statement. You invalidated him because you can't comprehend the layers or aren't comfortable with it. People are multi-faceted and this man has depth. It is beautiful no matter when someone is able to be this in tune with life and can be this real about it. What you see is what you get with him. To not recognize nuances and just see life as black and white is the true disappointment.
The drugs destroyed this man brain ... Talking nonsense and suddently crying. It makes me sad.
He is definetly not the same as he used to be.
He defintly acts as if hes had brain damage. Like really emotionally unstable and cant put together a coherent thought.
I like JP usually but this is just pseudo-profundity.
10th percentile openness.
the man that's worried we're become too feminine cries when recalling a band he saw play at a pub lol
To cry like a woman?! It’s a disgrace!
-Phil Leotardo
There’s no scraps in my scrapbook
I don't think he can play an instrument. If he was a working musician in big orchestra he might cry about having to play the same shite night after night and moan about his shitty contract of employment instead. 😂
He claims music can't be rationally critiqued. 😂
Muzak and elevator music are now telling us something profound about the universe.
What nonsense. He's irrational.
He's talking about GOOD music. I don't think muzak falls into that category.
@@aryamansingh7452 is he? So how are you judging what's good if music can't be objectively criticised? Lol. No wonder you like Peterson; you don't make sense either. He's talking about music. If you can't be objective about music then you can't say what's good or bad can you? 😂
@@MrGhostTube I understand where you're coming from. To clarify my credentials, I've been playing guitar for 8 years now. And I listen to Steely Dan - they've made some of the most complex pop music ever recorded - and that's an objective analysis considering they used Jazz Harmony and unusual chord voicings very extensively. Obviously, an orchestra musician will get frustrated playing the same thing over and over again. That's the definition of monotony. But that's unrelated to what Peterson is saying.
@@aryamansingh7452 it's not unrelated at all. You recognise that music is complex and has the capability to generate strong emotional responses in people. That's an emotional trigger not some kind of universal truth about life. Would you make such a claim for visual stimuli that do the same thing? If I take DMT or LSD and it generates strong emotions am I touching the truth or just responding to the chemical reactions in my brain? If a picture stirs emotions does it automatically contain the truth?
If I shout obscenities at you and I get a strong emotional response am I automatically speaking a fundamental truth?
For context I played bass guitar in a band for years and I have an extensive music collection that spans most genres. I make electronic music.
What Peterson is doing is taking an obvious truism and expanding it into something its not. He does it all the time. Music is many things to many people. He probably confines the truth in music to western classical work much as he believes that the Bible is a prerequisite for truth because he believes it was 'the first book'. You can't discount types of music if you make claims about music in general.
Honestly I don't understand how people take this man seriously. He's a psych professor who says he didn't know benzos were addictive. They're psych meds. 😂 He Iectures people on living their lives when he can't get his own in order without drugs. 😂
@@MrGhostTube you make good points. About people taking him seriously, you can't deny that he's a very captivating speaker. Incredibly articulate guy.
This guy is the oddest of ducks. He always seems on the precipice of emotional collapse. He takes himself way too seriously, and is all over the place. He's exactly the kind of weirdo the terminally online would idolize.
"People think of music as a non-representational art." That statement alone shows what an intellectual charlatan this man is. Which people? Where? Where is the research evidence? On top of that he clearly has no idea what 'Programme music' is, let alone what some of the great composers were aiming to represent through their work. Someone please put him out of our misery.
It is Intuitive representation, i think what he meant to say. Not a clear observable representation
You’re finding fault because you’re actively looking for it.
Not a good position to be in, in any sense.
Simmer down, he's just illustrating a point.
I love Peterson but what the actual fuck is he talking about? 💀💀
“The world is made of objects. No it’s not, it’s made of patterns.” ??????
this guys on shrooms!
This guy is too intense
Lol
i understand what he’s talking about but it’s not music; it’s math it’s a mushroom thought that’s why he’s crying about it lol; we like patterns in general, and he differentiates music and sound (which i don’t like) because you can have sound with pattern and not call it music; because we aren’t really aware of sound because we’ve always had it. once you start becoming aware of sound you can notice the math and I think that’s true about every fundamental element of the universe. lines curves, light sound, push and pulls, protons and electrons
Yes but I think the point he’s making with music is that it communicates with us much more directly than with other things.
Also Peterson cries all the time lol. I think he’s partially just emotional like that and partially a little wonky from the drug abuse.
But why is he crying though lol
He feels deeply.
cuz he's off meds. i get very emotional too when i skip my meds
@@paveantelic7876 ah I see now
Incel tears lol
Hes actually kind of wrong. Music has social, class, and cultural context but I know what he's trying to say
Full podcast here: open.spotify.com/episode/7IVFm4085auRaIHS7N1NQl?si=kq8yH4OSQRuW-twnXiyhCA&
I wish he'd stop waving his fkn hands around like a weird mime. And that's real. That's real. 😂
lmao
Don't listen to him.
He’s such a weirdo