I, as a Devout Catholic, was skeptical/anxious of how you were going to approach this topic, but I was pleased with how you handled Junipero Serra. It was fair, balanced, and non-biased. I appreciate that and all of the work that you put in this channel. :)
27:02 I was raised Catholic. One doesn't need to have done Confirmation to take Communion; elementary age kids get Communion at the aptly named First Communion. Confirmation is reaffirming ones' belief in the Church.
this man speaks truth. Confirmation is like “becoming a real Catholic” because you’re giving consent as an adult oppose to being baptized as a baby without your consent.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, confirmation is just becoming an "adult" in the churches eyes, like reasserting your faith but that happens when ppl are like finishing grade school, around 14 years old. First communion happens like way before, like at the age of like 5-8. Oops just kidding everyone already made these points. Whelp. My knowledge of the Catholic Church has been for nought.
As someone who was raised Lutheran, I can confirm that, at my church they don't let you take communion until you are confirmed/go through confirmation. IDK about other places... but my church is American so... maybe it's right? It's not always consistent, I guess, reading the other replies.
As a person born and raised in San Diego, CA and has attened a Catholic school, taking part in a state mandated educational program that ficused on the Catholic missions founded by Junipero Serra (and others after him) within California, having to build a model of a mission and complete a summary report of all Serrra's (and his inspired) missions, and even having attened masses at the reconstruction of the Mission San Diego De Acala as well as visiting the site and its historic site within San Diego, all the way up to Mission San Buenaventura (school and mass attendance nearly 20 years ago, casual visits/educational field trips ended nearly 10 years ago, and moved out of state 6 years ago), I haven't learned nearly as much about Junipero himself as much as I have from this video, if only because it wasn't presented through a rose hued Catholic/Californian/American lense. Even the details I was aware of came into sharper focus.
Awesome question. (Sorry for the way I express myself, if it would seem gibberish). As I see it, it’s an example of an important and problematic question of today - how to perceive different moralities (and/or ideologies). One cannot be unbiased. The bias speaks trough us and even, I guess, constructs itself “backwards” from an occasional choice of signs.. Because of this we are inevitably, more or less consciously, see other moralities as inferior. But our actions should be nonviolent nevertheless. Thus the main question is where (where precisely in words, speech) the border between thoughts and actions lies. My position (at least for now): we should avoid being judgmental of a people, making (any, truly, but mostly negative) value judgments on a personal level; and we should express freely our opinion on “things” - from politics to weather. Kind of a “no ad hominem” rule. Or simply politeness. Speaking of a guy you talked about - he was an interesting guy who did horrible things admired by others mostly back then and partly now. :)
Imagine working hard for your kid to go to college just so he chose to study philosophy and recive a doctorate in theology. Man do I pity Juniperos parents.
Me encantaría escucharte hablar español por unos minutos. Pareces tener muy buen acento, algo normal si pasaste tu infancia aquí. Por cierto, hablas Catalán?
@@Black_pearl_adrift hey, the crusades were necesary preemptive wars against the muslim Caliphate that already conquered Byzantine lands south of Anatolia and were not giving any sign of stopping.
interesting as a Pentecostal Christian I am grieved by his view to add mortification of the flesh to his life because it is not biblical, and I am upset that he had a such a demeaning view of native Americans. I am glad to hear he helped people farm, and brought people to Christ, but I am so upset that he abused his power over weather people starved or not. I do not think he should be considered a saint. He was a powerful witness, and missionary, and deserves recognition for that. However, he was not virtuous enough to be called a saint. I am not catholic so they will disagree with me, but that is what I think.
I dislike the concept of objective morality. Hindsight is 20/20, and that goes for the morals and opinions of historical figures too. That said I'm an antitheist and despise missionaries in particular. They are the worst kind of manipulative, dishonest, and insidious types of people.
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MERCH! Plugging merch almost gives me them Jake Paul vibes. Is Burger a Sociopath? Hmmmm.
I, as a Devout Catholic, was skeptical/anxious of how you were going to approach this topic, but I was pleased with how you handled Junipero Serra. It was fair, balanced, and non-biased. I appreciate that and all of the work that you put in this channel. :)
He lowkey disrespected the church a couple of times
I'm pretty sure breathing is enough to disrespect the church, my dude
Can you point out the times where he may have disrespected the Church? I may have just missed it the first time around.
WEIRD BACKGROUND, also, Hi, this channel is extremely informative and your voice is gorgeous.
Count the number of videos this man is in.
That is the number of times I have ejaculated.
Bringing some cheeki breeki to the place!
15:30 Can't forget what you didn't know existed in the first place.
...Jesuits ran the missions there for a century. Of course it doesn't exist.
@Jason Belstone Im talking about Baja California, Not the Missions.
Sexy Burgerkrieg vid that's 30+ minutes? Woo hoo!
sexy… I like that you used that adjective...
Thank you Burger, very cool! 😎
The dude needs a movie. Maybe even a series. Fascinating.
Do more history videos. Your style is unique and I like it.
disliked, unsubbed, -15$ on patreon, because no bookshelf 0/10
27:02
I was raised Catholic. One doesn't need to have done Confirmation to take Communion; elementary age kids get Communion at the aptly named First Communion.
Confirmation is reaffirming ones' belief in the Church.
ah fuck, did I mix that up with the Lutheran version of Communion again? Because that is called Confirmation.
this man speaks truth. Confirmation is like “becoming a real Catholic” because you’re giving consent as an adult oppose to being baptized as a baby without your consent.
Not in Germany they don't, though that may be a language thing.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, confirmation is just becoming an "adult" in the churches eyes, like reasserting your faith but that happens when ppl are like finishing grade school, around 14 years old. First communion happens like way before, like at the age of like 5-8.
Oops just kidding everyone already made these points. Whelp. My knowledge of the Catholic Church has been for nought.
As someone who was raised Lutheran, I can confirm that, at my church they don't let you take communion until you are confirmed/go through confirmation. IDK about other places... but my church is American so... maybe it's right?
It's not always consistent, I guess, reading the other replies.
Liking the constant flow of new videos!
Really interesting video! I actually live in Baja California. Keep up the good work! 😊 👍
As a person born and raised in San Diego, CA and has attened a Catholic school, taking part in a state mandated educational program that ficused on the Catholic missions founded by Junipero Serra (and others after him) within California, having to build a model of a mission and complete a summary report of all Serrra's (and his inspired) missions, and even having attened masses at the reconstruction of the Mission San Diego De Acala as well as visiting the site and its historic site within San Diego, all the way up to Mission San Buenaventura (school and mass attendance nearly 20 years ago, casual visits/educational field trips ended nearly 10 years ago, and moved out of state 6 years ago), I haven't learned nearly as much about Junipero himself as much as I have from this video, if only because it wasn't presented through a rose hued Catholic/Californian/American lense. Even the details I was aware of came into sharper focus.
18:58 almost perfect spanish accent omg
I went to primary school in Spain, I'd be ashamed not to speak the language.
@@TheBurgerkrieg yeah, but I didn't expect you to speak without your tipical accent.
Absolute Madlad
Junípero Serra? More like Chad Thundercock.
More like Godcuck
Awesome question. (Sorry for the way I express myself, if it would seem gibberish). As I see it, it’s an example of an important and problematic question of today - how to perceive different moralities (and/or ideologies). One cannot be unbiased. The bias speaks trough us and even, I guess, constructs itself “backwards” from an occasional choice of signs.. Because of this we are inevitably, more or less consciously, see other moralities as inferior. But our actions should be nonviolent nevertheless. Thus the main question is where (where precisely in words, speech) the border between thoughts and actions lies. My position (at least for now): we should avoid being judgmental of a people, making (any, truly, but mostly negative) value judgments on a personal level; and we should express freely our opinion on “things” - from politics to weather. Kind of a “no ad hominem” rule. Or simply politeness. Speaking of a guy you talked about - he was an interesting guy who did horrible things admired by others mostly back then and partly now. :)
This was a 30 minute flex of your spanish, wasn't it? it's good tho love your channel
Absolute CHAD
That trilled R, Mmmm yeessssss
Imagine working hard for your kid to go to college just so he chose to study philosophy and recive a doctorate in theology. Man do I pity Juniperos parents.
why, he supported them well when they were older, he was in the damn church
Also, that was an EXTREMELY prestigious position at the time, so actually they were probably pretty happy with that.
What about water merch
clint eastwood was mayor of Carmel by the Sea
Cool video
Dope
Nice vid
Me encantaría escucharte hablar español por unos minutos. Pareces tener muy buen acento, algo normal si pasaste tu infancia aquí.
Por cierto, hablas Catalán?
My Catalan no es muy bueno. Entiendo lo que gente dice cuando escucho a conversaciones, pero hablarlo es dificil.
@@TheBurgerkrieg ya me gustabas antes, pero ahora más hahaha
Huanking with sandpaper
Nice pronunciation dude
Say what you will about this guy. But he practiced what he preached. As painful as what he believed was. I got to respect that
Dafuq? This is fascinating. O_o
Teddy Roosevelt or Jose Rizal. Get on it.
I would realy like a study in how the native Americans developed with and without this man.
Junipero did nothing wrong, neither did the inquisition.
Yee, and them crusades? Lets have another one. I mean the first one couldn't have been *that* bad.
@@Black_pearl_adrift hey, the crusades were necesary preemptive wars against the muslim Caliphate that already conquered Byzantine lands south of Anatolia and were not giving any sign of stopping.
Giraffe with me?
Hot
He sounds like an incredibly holy man, not the insane person I was imagining from the comments.
Different perspectives and all that.
So is this the oldest masochist we know of?
Nope, pretty much all franciscans were masochists, and the order was formed in 1209 so... he was 500 years late
interesting as a Pentecostal Christian I am grieved by his view to add mortification of the flesh to his life because it is not biblical, and I am upset that he had a such a demeaning view of native Americans. I am glad to hear he helped people farm, and brought people to Christ, but I am so upset that he abused his power over weather people starved or not. I do not think he should be considered a saint. He was a powerful witness, and missionary, and deserves recognition for that. However, he was not virtuous enough to be called a saint. I am not catholic so they will disagree with me, but that is what I think.
*Was he a masochist?*
Search about Flagellants, these things Junipero did are actually a Catholic practice.
Likely, what he did was so over the top that he had to have masochistic tendencies.
Jesus Christ’s be praised
CHINGIS, Its pronounced with a CH not a G
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I dislike the concept of objective morality. Hindsight is 20/20, and that goes for the morals and opinions of historical figures too. That said I'm an antitheist and despise missionaries in particular. They are the worst kind of manipulative, dishonest, and insidious types of people.