Sylvie Von Duuglas-ittu from 8LimbsUs has created a whole library of footage and archives for Muay Thai in order to preserve the golden era of muay thai, in a country that is quite poor and has only really started having a digital impact in the last decades. Her work is extremely valuable. How we dont have an extensive single place for all MMA, in a time when digital media is so close to its beginning, is a massive shame. But it can be done. It should be done.
I'm not exactly "in the know" & thought this was gonna be a clever joke when I read the first 6 or 10 words (the name)but now very interested in learning more. Thanks
It has been done for mma. It's just not online for everyone to acces because companies like zuffa would cause problems. It's all archived on hidden streaming services and on physical hard drives shared in communities.
Well, yes and no. Physical media can be lost in someone's garage, consumed by mice. Digital data is the best way to preserve and proliferate history so far.
@Trepanation21 it's literally not the internet isn't infinite things are being deleted and lost every single day physical media gives the public atleast a chance at preserving it ourselves
@@Trepanation21well... Physical media is important because it will always be a safety net, if things are wiped from the internet you could upload again
@mr.knowitall2478 during a press conference a while back, some guy got on the mic and told Dana that he had promised him a bunch of old original fight videos but never got them It's kinda funny if you can find it
Hey Tommy, "Heroes of the Ring" ran for 2 years on TV Continental, every Monday. Carlos Gracie was basically the showrunner. The cast of fighters include João Alberto Barreto and Hélio Vigio, who were referees in the first UFCs. In 1999, Róbson Gracie did a revival show for brazilian tv station CNT.
A couple that come to mind for me: The Krazy Horse vs Wanderlei brawl where Krazy Horse claims to have knocked him out. The radio interview where Petruzelli claims he was paid to throw the Kimbo fight, which in turn led to Elite XC’s closure.
It really is weird how many mma shows existed and just the size of the MMA media sphere in general at the time compared to now. Especially when you consider the fact that it is a much bigger sport from a national standpoint now.
@@hia5235 you may be right. I had more friends who watched MMA then for sure but it seemed to be a smaller much more dedicated following that would watch everything put out that pertained to MMA. Most people didn’t even know what it was or damn sure didn’t care about it at all back in the day I feel like. Now I think the general audience is much more aware and accepting of MMA but just like boxing they will care for the biggest fights only and outside of that will only be tangentially aware of the sport outside of that but will often stop and watch if they run into the sport on television or in a sports bar.
This is why physical media is important. Very glad I got into MMA early and traded tapes on the internet. I've got a variety of shows that never got a legit phyical release, or was just a rare VHS release.
sad to see so much mma history missing, history that may never be reclaimed. as a boxing fan, i know that pain all too well. we have no archive of fights, interviews, etc. so much history sitting in some company's forgotten warehouse.
The Lytes Out Podcast has done a lot of amazing work to document the stories of fighters and organizations. I'd recommend them to anyone looking for MMA history from the people involved.
10:20 the fact that you haven’t seen the rest of the footage should tell you what you need to know. Even Conor’s coach mentioned on Rogan’s podcast Paulie touched him during the session. Gotta remember paulie was retired and out of shape. He was dumb for thinking Conor wasn’t about to use him for marketing promoting the Floyd fight. He seemed to think he was consulting haha that’s on him. Leaking footage is just downright dirty but ultimately he got played. That said, even an out of shape Paulie got his licks in apparently. But he looked sloppy in the edited clip and no question Conor cracked him
Tommy, please do a video on the history of UWF / UWFI. You’re the only person on UA-cam with the knowledge and the voice to tell people about obscure Japanese MMA / Pro Wrestling events
I remember there was an original cut of the UFC 270: Ngannou vs Gane video package where it had Dana White blast Ngannou and his manager Marquel Martin during their on going contractual negotiation issues. Only the journalists and fans at the 270 presser saw it (the Dana interview got edited out when it aired on PPV). Aaron Bronsteter might have made a tweet about it during that time, but my sources are very scarce. For all I know this might be a massive fever dream I had for a while
Along with first place, Rickson's first fight against Rei Zulu where Renzo and a jiujitsu journalist and other sources say that Zulu threw Rickson out of the ring 3 times, I looked on UA-cam and never found it, you can only find photos of Rickson being thrown outside the ring, I saw an interview that Renzo talks about. There is only video of the second fight between Rickson and Zulu on the internet, the first fight is very rare, I think only the Gracies have it
Not surprising with the end or transition of companies and tech. What shocks me is that the UFC does not even have images of their early event posters (SEG era).... if you look at the event poster collages for the 25th and 30th anniversary, for many early events they show the VHS cover and not the event poster. Glad I focused on collecting SEG era stuff... bet I own UFC items the UFC isnt even aware of.
re 6:30ish: There was Heroes of the Ring, which was a martial arts combat program, not to be confused with Kings of the ring(in portuguese, so Reis do Ringue, and not the WWE event of the similar name) which was some random pro wrestling tapes that were sent from north american territories. Your probably best link to this info is brazilian journalist and MMA historian Marcelo Alonso. He writes for sherdog too.
As someone who has most of the UFC DVDs, at least up to about 134 (the original "UFC Rio"), I couldn't agree more. I also have quite a few Pride DVDs, but not as many as I used to. Also, they're now much harder to find, which is a shame.
How is a random org like the IFL somehow the most respectable fight organization with the salary and health insurance. Even when they fucked up with the 2000s edge, they corrected their mistake.
This is one of the reasons why I keep some movies and events on a DVD library till this day. Including the entire PrideFC library on it’s original discs and cases.
HAHA wow that's my listing with the IFL DVDs! Funny enough, I was collecting hundreds of MMA DVDs with the intention of preserving these lost organizations and shows, however life has prevented me from ever uploading any to UA-cam. Now I've just been selling them off slowly to get my money back and whatnot but I had some really rare stuff that I would have loved to upload.
Tommy, you ought to try and contact Jeff Sherwood from Sherdog. Him talking about having 100 and 100s of old bootleg tapes of MMA fights on his old radio show back in like 2006.
I remember back in the early days, apparently there was an IFC show where they lost the master tape in a car fire of something. I think it was their 3rd show?
Man watching UFC Tonight was such a treat being new to the sport. Or watching the ufc post fight show on FS1 after a fight night or to see who won on a pay per view.
I remember that stuff between Conor & Paulie Malignaggi. After the that KO surfaced, he went everywhere to get in front of a camera to dispute it. I think it was on Fox or ESPN, he clearly had a black eye on his left eye.
I've been looking for when Hendo punches Bas in pride while Bas is commentating and it sits Bas down lmao. I think Hendo was wearing Hulk hands but im not 100% sure
I have some quasi lost media. UFC 101 q and a I asked Dana when they were going to put fight nights on dvd. He wound up giving me every ppv, fight night and ultimate fighter up to that point on dvd. The version they gave me recorded the broadcast even when they went off air or when they thought the mics weren’t on. I got to enjoy a dirty joke between Rogan and Goldie about then match maker Joe Silva. I haven’t watched all of them and not all of the couple I did watch had extra content.
I noticed an important omission in your discussion on lost media. MMA Meltdown should be recognized as a pioneering force, being the first combat sports show exclusively aired on AM and FM radio, setting a precedent that surpassed the confines of blog talk platforms. Moreover, the show's availability on the ESPN website and its accolade as Colorado's number one sports specialty show underscore its significant impact and success in an arena where few anticipated a combat sports-only show could thrive on traditional radio.
The ones that come to mind are Nick Diaz vs Joe Riggs hospital fight security cam footage and Lee Murray vs Pele full fight That i know the Diaz vs riggs security camera footage was never released and Murray vs Pele only the KO footage is available
I have a piece of lost media for you (maybe Mandela Effect or a fever dream too lol). I swear there was an opening ceremony to a Pride Event or possibly some other JMMA Event where a large spherical screen was hung above the ring. A man’s face was projected onto the massive ball of canvas while he read out loud the fighters of the night and details about the event. Then the screen exploded and soon thereafter the event began. Does anyone else remember this?
The Pride original broadcasts were infinitely better than the one's UFC has on their streaming service. They cut a lot of the fighter entrances which were a huge part of Pride. I remember distinctly Crocop's rematch with Kevin Randleman and the amazing camera work as Crocop was making his entrance coming out to Wild Boys. It panned over Randleman who was jumping about 10 feet into the air as it moved back out towards Crocop. It's hard to explain, but it gave me goosebumps. Most of these entrances were only shown on the original Japanese broadcasts but were removed in the DVD's and for streaming.
Subscribing to fight pass is what made me start buying TUF/PRIDE dvds. There is so much content they don’t give a shit about and the stuff they do upload is so low quality
I used to work for the UFC. I've seen the full Conor and Pauli sparring match. The UFC definitely still has it. Same with Ultimate Insider. All those episodes exist.
@@dohnjoe4516 it happened pretty much exactly the way people described it. Early on, Conor was tagging him with his signature left hand. But then Pauli's boxing experience started to show and he started timing the left hand, ducking it every time. But then he started to gas and that's when Conor took over.
The amount of VHS I have in my collection is crazy lol, Universal Vale Tudo, U-JAPAN, Fighting Network RINGS, programs booklets from these events, and PRIDE and the SEG era of the UFC, Posters, Tickets, shirts and such, I've been collecting for almost 4 years! this dana white should do what he can to preserve MMA History! Ignore some "financial dispute" from a million years ago!
Tapouts put out a documentary, “Bad For The Sport.” All I could find is the series. Wanderlei vs Krazy Horse, if that even exists anywhere. Iron Ring, where rappers managed teams in mma. I remember Floyd and Rick Ross had teams.
I have so many dvds.... Pride (every fight lol) Valle tudo, koc, ufc 1 through 16 I have all on VHS and I even have some photos from Japan somewhere with Cro Cop and Vandy
Thanks for featuring some of my clips of Pre-PRIDE. If you're worried about preserving #mmahistory, I'm currently working on a book about the kakutougi boom. Pre-PRIDE is just one chapter.
I mean the source of this disappearing history is going to be chalked up to mainly two things. 1. Stuff being recorded on materials or in methods that didn't have the best shelf life cause no one really had longevity as a priority or 2. Promotions scrubbing the stuff that puts them in a bad light clean from the public records (obviously way harder to do nowadays but that 90s and early 2000s stuff would be a lot easier to get rid of).
There used to be a clip of Chael mic'd up next to the octagon watching fights. He jokes about Nam but says not Viet Nam...for some reason it's disappeared.
UFC does not really promote their history as much as I think they should, other than a few years ago during the anniversary they did a bunch of old fights on youtube.
Your channel needs to also keep backup copies of all your archives and footage for the good of preserving MMA's history. You probably have one of the most extensive collections at this point.
This is a choice at this point. Theres no legitimate reason anytbing from thr UFC should be missing. I bet there are some fights, media, and events theyd like you to forget or never know happened
11:46 yeah I think that is something you need to cover in a video on its own if you haven't already. I just realized that you have a lot of videos to go through which is going to pretty fun
Don't forget that even in the earlier days of MMA, before Pancrase, UFC, Pride, Shooto and Belator theres also various videos of different martial artists fighting since the 50s but its also lost media 😢
Video gamers realized long ago that you can't depend on corporations to save anything, or at least not give you access to it. Lost media will remain lost until the fans do something to preserve it.
As a history buff and giant mma fan, I really wish all the press conferences and weigh in events that were filmed and televised were available for consumption. I know all the newer ones post ufc 200 or so are, but there's all these clips from press conferences in the early to mid 2000s I randomly see but can't find the full broadcast on. Like the press conference where Ken Shamrock says I will beat you into the living death to Tito or the press conference of when Dana bought pride fc etc.
As a 26 year old self proclaimed MMA historian who’s followed the sport for 17 years I really, really appreciate this video. It breaks my heart, but it’s necessary!
Sylvie Von Duuglas-ittu from 8LimbsUs has created a whole library of footage and archives for Muay Thai in order to preserve the golden era of muay thai, in a country that is quite poor and has only really started having a digital impact in the last decades. Her work is extremely valuable.
How we dont have an extensive single place for all MMA, in a time when digital media is so close to its beginning, is a massive shame. But it can be done. It should be done.
Sylvie the GOAT fr
Sylvie is literally doing legendary work. If only all martial arts through history were documented as well as Sylvie has documented Muy Thai.
Caposa might have some of it.
I'm not exactly "in the know" & thought this was gonna be a clever joke when I read the first 6 or 10 words (the name)but now very interested in learning more. Thanks
It has been done for mma. It's just not online for everyone to acces because companies like zuffa would cause problems. It's all archived on hidden streaming services and on physical hard drives shared in communities.
This is why physical media is so important
Well, yes and no. Physical media can be lost in someone's garage, consumed by mice. Digital data is the best way to preserve and proliferate history so far.
Shut up nerd @@Trepanation21
@Trepanation21 it's literally not the internet isn't infinite things are being deleted and lost every single day physical media gives the public atleast a chance at preserving it ourselves
This is why making copies of everything is important*
@@Trepanation21well... Physical media is important because it will always be a safety net, if things are wiped from the internet you could upload again
And everyone made fun of that guy asking Dana for those video tapes smh 😢
Elaborate?
I was thinking of exactly that when I first clicked this video 😂
I was gonna comment the same thing lmao
@mr.knowitall2478 during a press conference a while back, some guy got on the mic and told Dana that he had promised him a bunch of old original fight videos but never got them
It's kinda funny if you can find it
I just hope the guy that eats all the donuts is doing ok
I'm so glad someone, especially this channel, is bringing up MMA Lost Media.
Hey Tommy,
"Heroes of the Ring" ran for 2 years on TV Continental, every Monday. Carlos Gracie was basically the showrunner. The cast of fighters include João Alberto Barreto and Hélio Vigio, who were referees in the first UFCs. In 1999, Róbson Gracie did a revival show for brazilian tv station CNT.
Cruz vs. DJ was a classic that I can't seem to find anymore.
its on fight pass no?
@@Dclin9which is unavailable in most of the world, yeah
@@Ivan2Jura it is? lol. vpn could maybe work
Ya that was a cool fight
MMA core has it. It’s my go to search if I want to find a fight.
A couple that come to mind for me:
The Krazy Horse vs Wanderlei brawl where Krazy Horse claims to have knocked him out.
The radio interview where Petruzelli claims he was paid to throw the Kimbo fight, which in turn led to Elite XC’s closure.
Did the Krazy Horse-Wanderlei video not get released a few years ago
Surprised Dana hasn’t scrubbed the video of him kissing Tito 😂
I’m not too sure he hasn’t at least buried it a little cuz it took me a while to stumble across that LOL
@@petuniapaul758you’re not a true hardcore fan until you’ve seen that image at least once lol.
Inside mma and mma uncensored were so amazing. I'd love to watch all those episodes again.
I could listen to Bas Rutten speak all day.
Inside mma was superb back in the day. So was MMA uncensored. Bringing back all sorts of teenage memories for me
It really is weird how many mma shows existed and just the size of the MMA media sphere in general at the time compared to now. Especially when you consider the fact that it is a much bigger sport from a national standpoint now.
Inside MMA was fr the go-to show for mma fans. It was too ahead of its time imo. If it was a UA-cam show today it would be super successful imo
@@FreefallSC It doesnt make sense because MMA was actually bigger back then than now. PR wants to tell you otherwise.
@@hia5235 you may be right. I had more friends who watched MMA then for sure but it seemed to be a smaller much more dedicated following that would watch everything put out that pertained to MMA. Most people didn’t even know what it was or damn sure didn’t care about it at all back in the day I feel like.
Now I think the general audience is much more aware and accepting of MMA but just like boxing they will care for the biggest fights only and outside of that will only be tangentially aware of the sport outside of that but will often stop and watch if they run into the sport on television or in a sports bar.
Pre-Pride? The UFC greatest bump in popularity TUF1. Was a show idea they stole from pride. 🤯
PRIDE FTW. THEY INVENTED EVERYTHING
RIP Krazy Horse's Slam Attack highlight vid. It was so good and now you can only see it in a reaction video.
U want it back on UA-cam?
@@destructionfun2 Indeed I do.
@@I_AM_BAYTOR I have it, it's watermarked though.
@@destructionfun2 If you'd be down to upload, that'd be really cool.
Who would have ever guessed that Nick Diaz's first promotion would have a biker riot with SWAT teams
This is why physical media is important. Very glad I got into MMA early and traded tapes on the internet. I've got a variety of shows that never got a legit phyical release, or was just a rare VHS release.
Can i ask what those shows are? Are you willing to digitize them? Or are you holding onto them as a collector and placing value on the rarity?
@@birdiec they're bootlegs for the most part, so they are not worth anything except to me and other fans.
Fedor used the Pride equivalent of "in minecraft"
😂
Alot of the old MMA radio shows are gone now too, most notably the Sherdog stuff with the original crew (TJ, Gross, Sherwood, Savage, Breen etc)
sad to see so much mma history missing, history that may never be reclaimed. as a boxing fan, i know that pain all too well. we have no archive of fights, interviews, etc. so much history sitting in some company's forgotten warehouse.
Never get tired of hearing Im Tommy from mma on point !
I am impressed at the amount of research that went into this video.
The Lytes Out Podcast has done a lot of amazing work to document the stories of fighters and organizations. I'd recommend them to anyone looking for MMA history from the people involved.
That's why channels like this are so important
you’re telling me there’s forbidden jujitsu
Dark Arts
10:20 the fact that you haven’t seen the rest of the footage should tell you what you need to know. Even Conor’s coach mentioned on Rogan’s podcast Paulie touched him during the session. Gotta remember paulie was retired and out of shape. He was dumb for thinking Conor wasn’t about to use him for marketing promoting the Floyd fight. He seemed to think he was consulting haha that’s on him. Leaking footage is just downright dirty but ultimately he got played. That said, even an out of shape Paulie got his licks in apparently. But he looked sloppy in the edited clip and no question Conor cracked him
MMA lost media is a hell of a gold mine . I hope they uncover some of it
Tommy, please do a video on the history of UWF / UWFI. You’re the only person on UA-cam with the knowledge and the voice to tell people about obscure Japanese MMA / Pro Wrestling events
I feel old af lol tommy toe hold, inside mma, Dana’s vlogs, bloodstain lane 😂
I remember there was an original cut of the UFC 270: Ngannou vs Gane video package where it had Dana White blast Ngannou and his manager Marquel Martin during their on going contractual negotiation issues. Only the journalists and fans at the 270 presser saw it (the Dana interview got edited out when it aired on PPV). Aaron Bronsteter might have made a tweet about it during that time, but my sources are very scarce. For all I know this might be a massive fever dream I had for a while
Bro, I miss Inside MMA so much
Along with first place, Rickson's first fight against Rei Zulu where Renzo and a jiujitsu journalist and other sources say that Zulu threw Rickson out of the ring 3 times, I looked on UA-cam and never found it, you can only find photos of Rickson being thrown outside the ring, I saw an interview that Renzo talks about. There is only video of the second fight between Rickson and Zulu on the internet, the first fight is very rare, I think only the Gracies have it
I was one of the early guys to see those tapes when i was searching for pre / pride . Found a bunch of photos and videos but not full events.
Can't seem to find the Dominick Cruz vs. Demetrious Johnson fight anywhere now.
I actually really enjoyed this video, very interesting. Thnx Tommy & MMAOP!
Great piece, guys. It's not even a thing i thought existed (lost media)
Now i want to find and see ALL of it! 👍🏻
I also love lost media! This was so fun Tommy!!
So much for the internet never forgets.
There were many early UFC preshow fights lost as well.
Not surprising with the end or transition of companies and tech. What shocks me is that the UFC does not even have images of their early event posters (SEG era).... if you look at the event poster collages for the 25th and 30th anniversary, for many early events they show the VHS cover and not the event poster. Glad I focused on collecting SEG era stuff... bet I own UFC items the UFC isnt even aware of.
re 6:30ish: There was Heroes of the Ring, which was a martial arts combat program, not to be confused with Kings of the ring(in portuguese, so Reis do Ringue, and not the WWE event of the similar name) which was some random pro wrestling tapes that were sent from north american territories. Your probably best link to this info is brazilian journalist and MMA historian Marcelo Alonso. He writes for sherdog too.
theres also lord of the rings, easily confused as an mma program but its actually a book series.
Thanks for the shout out guys. I was so excited for this one!
how about bring back the event dvds? Best of the year dvds? Knockouts of the year dvd, something
As someone who has most of the UFC DVDs, at least up to about 134 (the original "UFC Rio"), I couldn't agree more. I also have quite a few Pride DVDs, but not as many as I used to. Also, they're now much harder to find, which is a shame.
Damn now I gotta do a deep dive on lost media 😂
How is a random org like the IFL somehow the most respectable fight organization with the salary and health insurance. Even when they fucked up with the 2000s edge, they corrected their mistake.
I really enjoyed this one Tommy!
This is one of the reasons why I keep some movies and events on a DVD library till this day.
Including the entire PrideFC library on it’s original discs and cases.
Digitize, upload, and let us know where it is so we can share it as well
We have most UFC fights and Prides on VHS
This was awesome, please bring us more content like this in the future !!!!
HAHA wow that's my listing with the IFL DVDs! Funny enough, I was collecting hundreds of MMA DVDs with the intention of preserving these lost organizations and shows, however life has prevented me from ever uploading any to UA-cam. Now I've just been selling them off slowly to get my money back and whatnot but I had some really rare stuff that I would have loved to upload.
Tommy, you ought to try and contact Jeff Sherwood from Sherdog. Him talking about having 100 and 100s of old bootleg tapes of MMA fights on his old radio show back in like 2006.
I remember back in the early days, apparently there was an IFC show where they lost the master tape in a car fire of something. I think it was their 3rd show?
#1 for me
Most of my fights that disappeared from UA-cam
Man watching UFC Tonight was such a treat being new to the sport. Or watching the ufc post fight show on FS1 after a fight night or to see who won on a pay per view.
Dude. That inside MMA shit blows my mind. The things you take for granted.
Used to watch Inside MMA religiously back when MMA was good.
Crazy! UFC Tonight is where I discovered Tommy! Was a staple show for me while it aired
I remember that stuff between Conor & Paulie Malignaggi. After the that KO surfaced, he went everywhere to get in front of a camera to dispute it. I think it was on Fox or ESPN, he clearly had a black eye on his left eye.
I own a complete Pride FC dvd collection
Well worth the investment and time collecting.
I've been looking for when Hendo punches Bas in pride while Bas is commentating and it sits Bas down lmao. I think Hendo was wearing Hulk hands but im not 100% sure
I was hoping to see drunk dustin poirier rapping on this list, i wish I could watch that again
I have some quasi lost media. UFC 101 q and a I asked Dana when they were going to put fight nights on dvd. He wound up giving me every ppv, fight night and ultimate fighter up to that point on dvd. The version they gave me recorded the broadcast even when they went off air or when they thought the mics weren’t on. I got to enjoy a dirty joke between Rogan and Goldie about then match maker Joe Silva. I haven’t watched all of them and not all of the couple I did watch had extra content.
You've got to digitalise that shit
Man digitalise that as someone else said
Digitize and upload bro!
Cap 🧢 mad fkkin cap
Digitize and let us know where to download so we can share as well
I noticed an important omission in your discussion on lost media. MMA Meltdown should be recognized as a pioneering force, being the first combat sports show exclusively aired on AM and FM radio, setting a precedent that surpassed the confines of blog talk platforms. Moreover, the show's availability on the ESPN website and its accolade as Colorado's number one sports specialty show underscore its significant impact and success in an arena where few anticipated a combat sports-only show could thrive on traditional radio.
Brazilian here. Your first pronunciation of Herois do Ringue was pretty solid 6:21
The ones that come to mind are Nick Diaz vs Joe Riggs hospital fight security cam footage and Lee Murray vs Pele full fight
That i know the Diaz vs riggs security camera footage was never released and Murray vs Pele only the KO footage is available
MMA Right On Point 💯
I like a team idea for a gyms fighters and a proper league structure. But there's no gyms that have football team money to do that sort of thing.
I have a piece of lost media for you (maybe Mandela Effect or a fever dream too lol). I swear there was an opening ceremony to a Pride Event or possibly some other JMMA Event where a large spherical screen was hung above the ring. A man’s face was projected onto the massive ball of canvas while he read out loud the fighters of the night and details about the event. Then the screen exploded and soon thereafter the event began. Does anyone else remember this?
The Pride original broadcasts were infinitely better than the one's UFC has on their streaming service. They cut a lot of the fighter entrances which were a huge part of Pride. I remember distinctly Crocop's rematch with Kevin Randleman and the amazing camera work as Crocop was making his entrance coming out to Wild Boys. It panned over Randleman who was jumping about 10 feet into the air as it moved back out towards Crocop. It's hard to explain, but it gave me goosebumps. Most of these entrances were only shown on the original Japanese broadcasts but were removed in the DVD's and for streaming.
The shows are great, but its like watching old wwf raw videos, no point if you already know the outcome
Subscribing to fight pass is what made me start buying TUF/PRIDE dvds. There is so much content they don’t give a shit about and the stuff they do upload is so low quality
I used to tune in every week for ufc tonight ❤
Me too
I used to work for the UFC. I've seen the full Conor and Pauli sparring match. The UFC definitely still has it. Same with Ultimate Insider. All those episodes exist.
Lol did Conor fuck him up?
@@dohnjoe4516Hard to imagine he didn't considering Paulie's performance (or lack thereof) against Conor's talentless little sidekick 😂
@@dohnjoe4516 it happened pretty much exactly the way people described it. Early on, Conor was tagging him with his signature left hand. But then Pauli's boxing experience started to show and he started timing the left hand, ducking it every time. But then he started to gas and that's when Conor took over.
Is the UFC like the WWE where they have their own archival department dedicated to digitizing and recording rare and historically significant bouts?
Theres so much stuff ive tried to find on the web back from the pride days but i cant find it anywhere.
The amount of VHS I have in my collection is crazy lol, Universal Vale Tudo, U-JAPAN, Fighting Network RINGS, programs booklets from these events, and PRIDE and the SEG era of the UFC, Posters, Tickets, shirts and such, I've been collecting for almost 4 years! this dana white should do what he can to preserve MMA History! Ignore some "financial dispute" from a million years ago!
There’s a clip of Dana sniffin blow in the octagon before presenting a belt. Can’t remember which old school fight it was
Tapouts put out a documentary, “Bad For The Sport.” All I could find is the series.
Wanderlei vs Krazy Horse, if that even exists anywhere.
Iron Ring, where rappers managed teams in mma. I remember Floyd and Rick Ross had teams.
I have so many dvds.... Pride (every fight lol) Valle tudo, koc, ufc 1 through 16 I have all on VHS and I even have some photos from Japan somewhere with Cro Cop and Vandy
Thanks for featuring some of my clips of Pre-PRIDE. If you're worried about preserving #mmahistory, I'm currently working on a book about the kakutougi boom. Pre-PRIDE is just one chapter.
I'd buy that book
Great video as always fellas
Great video, I like the concept of this video and would love to see more related to lost mma media
John Anik with the hair.
I mean the source of this disappearing history is going to be chalked up to mainly two things. 1. Stuff being recorded on materials or in methods that didn't have the best shelf life cause no one really had longevity as a priority or 2. Promotions scrubbing the stuff that puts them in a bad light clean from the public records (obviously way harder to do nowadays but that 90s and early 2000s stuff would be a lot easier to get rid of).
There used to be a clip of Chael mic'd up next to the octagon watching fights. He jokes about Nam but says not Viet Nam...for some reason it's disappeared.
Best MMA channel! 💯 Fresh content every video!
That snip it of Gandolf pulling out partridge papers was hilarious 😂😂
Love when Tommy narrates!
Hope UFC1 footage would survive even after 1000 years.
UFC does not really promote their history as much as I think they should, other than a few years ago during the anniversary they did a bunch of old fights on youtube.
Your channel needs to also keep backup copies of all your archives and footage for the good of preserving MMA's history. You probably have one of the most extensive collections at this point.
You mean they had jerseys that look suspiciously similar to the TUF uniforms? 😂
This is a choice at this point. Theres no legitimate reason anytbing from thr UFC should be missing. I bet there are some fights, media, and events theyd like you to forget or never know happened
Shout out to that mma show that Scroobius Pip was on briefly
Didn't know there was MMA or UFC lost media. Adding it to the list of things to keep an eye out for.
Bring Back the IFL!! lmao dope as hell
11:46 yeah I think that is something you need to cover in a video on its own if you haven't already. I just realized that you have a lot of videos to go through which is going to pretty fun
Don't forget that even in the earlier days of MMA, before Pancrase, UFC, Pride, Shooto and Belator theres also various videos of different martial artists fighting since the 50s but its also lost media 😢
King of the Cage Canada filmed all their shows high quality and never released any of that footage. I've never seen any of my fights there
Any one of those Canadians on a current major mixed martial art roster like the UFC and pfl now?
Video gamers realized long ago that you can't depend on corporations to save anything, or at least not give you access to it.
Lost media will remain lost until the fans do something to preserve it.
As a history buff and giant mma fan, I really wish all the press conferences and weigh in events that were filmed and televised were available for consumption. I know all the newer ones post ufc 200 or so are, but there's all these clips from press conferences in the early to mid 2000s I randomly see but can't find the full broadcast on. Like the press conference where Ken Shamrock says I will beat you into the living death to Tito or the press conference of when Dana bought pride fc etc.
As a 26 year old self proclaimed MMA historian who’s followed the sport for 17 years I really, really appreciate this video. It breaks my heart, but it’s necessary!
everbody sayin that once something is on the web it stays on the web forever... well...
I used to be able to find more of the Battlecade Extreme Challenge events here on UA-cam