Brushed Vs Brushless Motor - What Is The Difference?
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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When it comes to Brushed Versus Brushless Motors, What Is The Difference? I explain what's involved and what yiou need to consider when upgrading to brushless as whilst you might increase the speed easily there's more to it than you might think. Hope You Like It!
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Somehow I ended up knowing less than before watching the video. Good work
Me too
Wow, I got to 1:33 & had to stop, confusion over load
Bwhahaha!! That was a lot for a person who is start new to the hobby. Basically I took it like the diff between gas or electric. The brushed works on more friction type motor to deal out the power like let’s say a Gas powered WTH all its moving parts. N a brushless works less and more off a Battery for its power. Idk I’m still new myself so I could be way off base. I’ll have to watch this over a few times. But your comment was great. Even how the video was edited he knew he was dumping to much information on our little brain bones.
Same here
Dude your editing hurts my brain haha it's really hard to concentrate on what you're saying when you jump out of nowhere to another topic.
55s in and I'm done.
Your ring looks to tight
*Too
No bro
Lol, That's the only thing I could think of while watching it
I wonder if it's still on there
halfway into the video and you havent told me one thing about what the difference is between the two
So, what exactly is the difference?
One has brushes, one does not...........you're welcome
I did exactly what you said and bought the traxxas Id charger that charges both and really saved me big when switching to lipo and brushless. Great tip!
thxs
Video doesn't tell what's the "difference" between brushed or brushless motors. It only tells you what you need if you want to run brushless setup.
What about inner workings of motors, exactly? Ok, one includes alkaline batteries and the other lithium polymer but what makes them go round?
Just what I needed. Reviving a Losi XX buggy from 1994 and wondered if I COULD upgrade it to brushless. I think I'll leave it otherwise stock and just enjoy it cuz I also don't think the stock gearing could handle it anyways.
do you have to switch the ESC as well if you replace to brushless?
Where did you get the rear wheel and tire from what are they call?.. thanks nice video keep up the great work...
I swap from nitro to brushless and I find it a lot better far less problems👌
David I did similar I had a Revo 3.3 with the easy start system even after running in though I struggled for consistency although I miss that screaming bumble bee sound!
Driftomaniacs , I For one thought you explained the idea of using either the brushed motor for say the beginners to the more experienced and perhaps more dedicated very well indeed.
For instance you explained using brushless motors would cost considerably more money because of all the extra things you would need ie: a new charger etc. so I thank You for your time and effort putting this video together. 😎
Appreciate your comment a lot thanks
Im here to learn, thanks.
Fab video! Thank you!
I went from 2s to 3s on my first brushless set up. I'm not new to brushless motors I'm use to them from ebikes/scooters and drones. But the difference it made switching to 3s made the car lethal all it wanted to do was wheelie
Nice 👍
I have a BSD street assault rtr car, it states that it will take a 2s or 3s lipo on the stock brushed motor & esc but since switching to the 3s, when driving for a few minute periods at over half throttle the motor starts to get stupidly hot and even smokes once I come to a stop 😒 I have the same lipo as you showed in this video. My ESC gets hot but not too hot to touch(it's fanless) I'm guessing BSD's claim that it supports 3s is a little over exaggerated, I recently had to convert it to full front wheel drive due to the back diff managing to pick a tiny stone up and destroying itself. Surely this should reduce the load on the motor due to the front wheels lack of grip during acceleration. I could understand if I was giving it full throttle but the truth is, full throttle is pointless in the current configuration, it just leaves half of the front tyres on the tarmac 😅 I'm guessing that it would be a good idea to just go brushless 🤷♂️
Should I go brushless 3000kv, 50A esc and run it on nimh 7,2volts, 3Ah for 1/10 4×4???? please help me because i can't find something useful anywhere!!!
What's the difference, you ask? EVERYTHING.
i just got into rc stuff in the past couple yrs an i started with building the flite test guys rc planes from foam board. it was the cheapest way i found to get into rc planes but i kept seeing ppl making cars with 3d printers an ive just recently finished building a car that i 3d printed an i went with what the designer who created the cars suggestions on motors an its alot of fun but i want a little more from it but when i was building the planes the brushless motor an esc kits was the cheapest way for me to get into it an i think the batterys was one of bigger reasons it was suggested for weight savings in the planes but its pretty much the same style motor an esc that im using on the car as i used on the planes just a bit bigger. i used a2212 for my planes and
My first was actually nitro car, parents scored it for $3. complicated when you're first starting and I think I was 12 at the time? it was always hard to get running right, but was fun when it did.
Much more prefer electric just charge and go, I do want to get this old redcat tornado running again. I think its just missing a nut that attaches to a rod that then presses the clutch. still reading on how to get it tuned, and now I have to dig around and see if I have the glow plug heater charger... Might just buy another, I cant remember how fast this thing was. might be more wrong with it.
Great video, helped me a lot to make a decision on what to get my nephew.
Gonna go with the Brushed version for sure. Thanks.
Brushless is much better and if you buy him a ready to run car then it will come with the batteries and charger so there is no extra expense.
The extra expense comes when people convert their brushed systems to brushless, it's not that big a deal if you're buying a brushless car to start with.
It will be a lot faster and more exciting for him and don't forget you can turn the throttle down on the controller to make the car slower while he learns and he can start on 2s liops which is slower before upgrading him to 3s or more when he gets better.
It will also be cheaper in the long-term because if he does get into rc then he will definitely end up changing a brushed system for brushless down the line then there will be the expense of a new motor,esc,batteries and charger so buy brushless from the start to save the cost later and just turn the speed down till he cam drive a bit
whats are the better in the longer run for a pre built r/c car
See I’m interested in a lipo and a brushless setup as a beginner(25 years since I had my king cab), but all I see are various clips of exploding and smoking buggies.
The reason for my interest in lipo is 1) length of runs. 2) charging time. 3) a small increase in power.
Okay now when it comes to lipo fires and explosion don't let this put you off. Lipos are very safe if handled correctly. The main two points to be aware of is don't let them discharge too low, if they do they swell up burst open and catch fire. However most esc's have a lipo mode, which cuts the power off when the voltage gets too low and avoids this happening. Car fires occur when people use a lipo but have the esc set to nimh, the lipo then discharges too low. Also don't overcharge them, I ALWAYS balance charge mine, this keeps the cells as the name suggested balanced to the same voltage, mah, charging fires occur when people don't balance charge them and overcharge them. They then puff up and the result is the same as above.
Buy a lipo charger that can both balance charge AND storage charge batteries, as the name suggests storage charge is used for lipos when you're not going to use them for a while. They say to leave lipos stored half full, don't store them empty as they voltage will drop over time and they can swell up.
Now for the good stuff 1.) It's not just lenght of runs but the power curve in those runs, unlike a nimh battery which tails off during use, the lipo will pretty much give full power until the lipo low voltage cutoff kicks in indicating the packs empty.
2.) Charging time - Some lipos can be charged at 2 or 3 times their max dischage rate - NOT ALL LIPOS though, so check before you buy/charge. This can reduce charging time. A 5000mah pack take my good charger about an hour - that's a big pack though.
Get a lipo charger that can charge up to 6S, you may start out with 2S or 3s but then get a bigger car with 2 x4 S as an example
3.) The increase in power and speed is substantial. More so if you go with a brushless motor. Note there are a lot of brushed cars out there that now take lipos. However to run a brushless motor you'll need a brushless esc as well.
I would say go for it, but ask questions along the way. Also you will find bad stories about EVERY lipo manufacturer. Some maybe true, others bad luck, and most? People simply not following the above. Hope that helps out
Thanks for taking your time to reply, this is great information! - I’m definitely going to take a real look into this now. The positives greatly outweigh the negatives, as you say if I get it right from the start there shouldn’t be any problems.
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Massive increase in power not small also longer run time and keeps it's power till the end instead of slowing right down as the battery runs low.
Look after them and follow all instructions then you should be fine,the problems occur when people don't follow the instructions when charging or setting the esc wrong etc
@@davidmellish3295 - I made the transition last year, and decided to buy double the capacity that I regularly use so never really go below half a charge, great for a storage charge too!
@@GeoffreyCapes were you surprised at the power difference at first mate ?
You need to get your wedding band resized, it's cutting off the circulation in your ring finger!
I'm looking to put a brushless system in my ecx amp, and was wondering if I could keep my 4500 mAh nickel metal hydride battery for the brushless system as I am on a budget
yes any brushless system will still run on nimh
What about running brushless on lipo? Is there much of a benefit?
yes more power, speed AND much longer runtime due to efficiency
Really appreciate the info. Do u know who you sound like? I'm a huge marvel fan bro
What would you offer for RWD drifting? Brushless or brushed
Brushless gives you more control, sensored brushless even more so when drifting.
Interesting video, although it would be interesting aswell if you could show more detail inside a brush vs brushless moter etc
Is lithium battery recommended for brushed motor?
Depends on the esc rating
@@DriftomaniacsRC How can I tell by reading the controller specs?
I perfer brushed set up NiMH batteries are not as dangerous as LiPo batteries. Brushless systems in Canada where I live cost a lot of money 👍👍
Bro your dumb brushless the way to go stupid fast
Who's had brushless from the start of their RC'ing?
Driftomaniacs I Acually started out with a rustler vxl
Driftomaniacs nope brushed hahah
I did
My first was a Team Associated pan car with foam tires for indoor carpet racing with a brushed setup. That was in the late 90s. When I got back into RCs last year I had no clue there were even brushless RC motors they were unheard of in the late 90s about like Lipos. We always used NICD or NIMH and used a set of 6 to 12 1156 light bulbs ran together in a series to discharge. RC really was expensive then to.
Driftomaniacs me
what onroad-car is that?
Bonkers editing
shoot your own video not yourself out!!!
Please move the ring to ur pinky or something it looks restrictive
After going from a older brushed emaxx to 2 brushless beasts with the jlb cheetah and dhk maximus I don't think I can ever go back to brushed. It's just not the same once you make the jump.
Indeedt it's a jump to make!
That's nothing I have arma senton with arma infraction esc and motor on 6s I'm gone bro
Do miss the sound but a lot easier to maintain
I always pick Brushless it's more speed and power , got to do your homework and I run all my rc trucks,cars, monster trucks
Brushless 5.5t is good?
all depends on the size and weight of the car you're fitting it to
Driftomaniacs 1/10 touring. Corally rdx 09
Holy PCP, batman
Will a 2S Lipo burn out brushed motor?
Victor it depends on the ESC that's being used and the load being put on the motor. It's heat that's the killer not the batteries juice itself. Eg. if the ESC is 2S capable like say that on an Arrma Granite 4x4 mega, which has a brushed motor matched to the weight of the buggy then the brushed motor will handle 2S all day long, however if you were to put the same setup in a much heavier buggy/truck or alter the gearing substantially then the motor will be under much more load and fry. Hope that makes sense? Most of the latest Esc's by traxxas and arrma let you run 2s on brushed motors day in day out. People that fry them tend to have put them under excess lard.
Thank you.
This is a little confusing and has a lot of facts in rapid-fire. It also doesn't really help with the overlapping clips edited together.
Record your own video then
@@DriftomaniacsRC Wow. Just wow. 😃
I wish I watched this before purchasing my first rc car
so whats better the brushed or brushless motors for the long term using and less headache
@@altariifiibrushless ofc but i know my reply late
Very nice video big thumbs up my friend XD
for the future: you shouldn't make these "smooth" cuts because the sound is overlapping a lot
Noted, problem is It sounds fine when I play it back in imovie though
All they hear is blah blah blah. Been there done that with people put the brushed nex to brushless and they see it's 2 times as fast on same bat . Then they go I want brushless truck it's like a story once told some only believe what they can see. 😆 Nice review 👍 The sad part people buying brushed when same car 70 more to be brushless new and changing it after you buy brushed to brushless will set you back like 150. More. It kills My heart when I see new rc people buy brushed only to see they should of went brushless. Wasted money .They thought no difference but price. Like brushed only gave you a longer lasting motor. But it's like having toy rc brushed to hobby grade rc brushless in speed.
So let me get this right? The difference between a brushed v brushless motor is the battery? Really?
Hell no bro the brushless is 10 times faster
@@glock1inthetop45 dambass max fan
Yeah but if I do go brushless my remote won’t control to the new esu
Great video
Is your wedding ring forever stuck on your finger
Dude you got to take that ring off and let that finger breathe!!!
but in engines with brushed brushes the brushes wear out?
That is, if the charcoal is consumed the engine is to be thrown away? 🙄
You can fit new brushes.
Talk to me talk to me.
You don't just jump into brushless with Terry tibs
bro is your pinky okay
Still don't understand hello
Your ringfinger seems stuck man
Thank you Michael Caine.
Lmao.. OFF TOPIC CONFUSION!!!
And a finger that's about to be lost because his ring is 2 sizes to small
Well this video didn't answer my question at all. lol
Great vid
You're cutting way too early, the end of everything you say gets cut off.
thanks for the feedback, it's the transition I think in imovies that does it. Thing is when I test play it in imovie it all sounds fine, and once it's up on UA-cam that's it. But thanks to the feedback
@@DriftomaniacsRC weird, it must be something with the encoding as it exports to youtube.
brushless take a shot
Why are you cutting yourself off to go into the middle of another component. Sorry bud it sounds like you do know what your talking about thought.
You cut this up too much I have a headache!
Terrible editing, audio kept fading out at key points of instruction
Please try to improve your editing. It was a pain to watch. Also a new microphone would improve your videos a lot.
I politely suggest you make your own videos. I’m on the third new microphone as it is this year.
@@DriftomaniacsRC then I hope we'll see more videos with much improved sound quality. Can't make my own videos as I lack the time.
I do suggest you try making your own videos then you might realise just what it takes to put one together. Everyone is a good armchair critic! I'm not going to spend $200 on a new mic that may or may not work, if it's no better than this one I've just got $200 less to spend on new RC's.
What is going on
dunno shoot your own video off rather than your mouth and you tell us....
It is my understanding that Lipo battery technology is very dangerous because of fire hazard.
No Lipos are safe when handled correctly. fires occur when people charge incorrectly or over discharge them. Lipo's also need careful storage otherwise if you leave them too long they discharge too low on their own and fire car occur. They just need careful handling!
Driftomaniacs I see.well thank you but I'm not sure yet.more information is needed before I switch.
Lipos are usally not dangerous. They are a lot faster, get warmer and can start a fire, but that is really rare(if you use several big batteries driving fast without waiting inbetween). If you drive outside( not on track) you should think of moving to lipo after a while. Keep in mind that if nimh batteries are decharged fully, they are not ruined, but if that happens with lipo you can just throw them away.
Lithium polymers may seem a bit too pro and a choice for some engineers, but many consumer friendly items are also powered by Lithium Polymer packs. I mean phones and those drones with crazy cameras. Lipos are safe and reliable way of producing power!
So, what's the difference? 👎
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This videos sucks. I didn’t grasp anything bcuz of the way he’s halfway explaining how it works and jumping from scene to scene and not in any particular sequence either
It wasn’t helpful at all!!!!
I learned nothing...
apologies what more did you need to know
This guy is making me stupid.
Quiet
why do you keep cutting the video when you are mid sentence? Seriously so annoying.
It sounds fine when played back in imovie, upload to youtube and...
Pointless video. Doesn’t show anything
You're more than happy to shoot your own, but if you already know about the subject WHY? are you watching this////
I just now searched difference between brushless and brushed motors....this is the first result and audio is shite plus I can't understand the guy because the audio is extra shite with an accent.
I'm gonna watch something else
Why did u have to comment then?
You have copied the intro from andrea galeazzi
the intro I created with MY OWN video footage??? MOST INTERESTING! Do tell me more? As it's MY FOOTAGE I'd love to know more about andrea galeazzi!
@@DriftomaniacsRC the moment whit the fingher tuch
He has the "fingert tuch" from years