Thanks so much for answering some of my questions regarding Grimmjow. Grimmjow's such a cool character, I hope he gets more showings in the TYBW anime. Another great video idea is a video about Hallibel. Her power, etc.
1:28 is that a partial transformation or just a supercharged black Hierro. (Heared somewhere that it was a Hierro that was so strong that it resembled his Resurrección)
It's interesting that he somewhat softened his rivalry with Ichigo in CFYOW, even enquiring about Orihime being his 'mate'. All without compromising his lethality and drive to fight ever more powerful opponents. Him becoming a wandering fighter fits perfectly with his character, it makes you wonder what would happen if he ever encounters that one opponent who far outclasses and can one shot him. Will that be his end? He'd probably see that as worthy.
@@aizensworld9309 Indeed. If possible you should do a video examining Tokinada Tsunayshiro. For his laughing mad psychopathy there are jarring and meaningful nuances to his character well worth exploring. Keep up the great work!
I think you are making light of post timeskip grimmjows regular power output. When sensing base grimmjows power approaching the battlefield the combating sternritters and fullbringers were shook. And deemed his power too formidable to ignore ( base ginjo included. Who was stated by CFYOW base grimmjow to be the strongest of the combatants there when he arrived and gauged them all ). CFYOW tsukishima was wary sensing CFYOW base grimmjows power. Outright admitting CFYOW base grimmjow would not be easy for them the fullbringers to overcome ( he's including base ginjo in this ) unlike his past arrancar arc self. Yes Gran Rey Cero and dessagaron are attacks that allow you to hit WAY above your power level but grimmjows regular output is nothing to scoff at either. Also you leave out the fact grimmjow was nowhere near fresh when fighting ikimikidomoe while harribel and neliel pretty much were. And there is also the fact he was still standing after a direct attack from tokinada's Ryujin jakka flames albeit heavily injured and this was after the battle with ikimikidomoe. Arguably tokinada's strongest offensive ability. Heavily implying grimmjows body is more durable then harribel and neliels. He fought a powered up luppi, ikimikidomoe, and took a direct attack from tokinada all in one day.
If you approach from this angle while ignoring everything else Grimmjow would seem more favourable. However the objective is to find an overarching interpretation of his power. That means we have to consider being ‘formidable’ within a spectrum as on page 122 they also mentioned that his presence was mainly a nuisance given the unpredictable battlefield with too many enemies to focus on. Also we have Grimmjow’s own admittance, author statements which exist outside the domain of Grimmjow’s present condition and such. And they could fire off high powered attacks at the end of the encounter… (like Luppi firing octet ceros at Hikone) and this was after Ikomikidomoe observed their ceros and made his declarations(so a single cero wouldn’t be an issue even if you wanted to make that approach). Overall I wouldn’t change his scaling off this alone. If you want to add more stuff including scans, we have a Bleach server… discord.gg/D7jAdeRA we’d appreciate your contribution.🙂 Also you could very well grant him that scaling, if you feel it’s justified. Love the contribution 🙏
@@aizensworld9309Not just formidable. They said "too formidable". Tsukishima then backs this up with his own words. I'm not saying grimmjows regular power output is on barragan or ikimikidomoes level. Just that we can't make light of his normal power output and durability. I believe grimmjow, neliel, and harribel are all close in regular power output though I believe grimmjows hierro/durability is better from what we have seen in CFYOW. I agree grimmjow has more raw attack power then harribel and neliel when you include dessagaron which is FAR FAR from his regular power output.
@@ROBSULLTsukishima and Grimmjow were able to easily keep up with Grimmjow’s Sonido amped speed despite the fact that HSM is supposed to be perception blitz levels faster than your base speed and the fact that Sonido specifically is particularly hard to sense as it leaves no trace of the user As far as AP and Durability goes, Tsukishima was able to casually cut through Grimmjow’s Hierro amped durability (which means his AP > Grimmjow’s regular AP as Hierro makes Espada more durable than their physical strength entails), and Ginjo looked at Grimmjow charge up a Grand Rey Cero, which is stronger than a Cero Oscuras, which in itself is an order of magnitude stronger than the user’s AP, and Ginjo laughed at the attack in excitement and said it might be a good match for his Base Getsuga Tensho. Giriko said the GRC might be stronger but Ginjo somewhat disagreed. Even Giriko and Meninas were said to have physical strength on par with Zaraki. Consistently he seems to be around the level of the CFYOW fem ritters in Base which is actually very good compared to his Arrancar arc scaling
I personally wonder what if Grimmjow can obtain more power by having his Zanpakuto reforged into an Asauchi blade. Technically since Asauchi are made from a mass collection of souls, creating a hollow blade like Ikidimone (I know I butchered the name). Can not only give Pantera a new form but also take Pantera’s power even further in a form of a second release. A true Bankai equivalent Segunda Etapa to Resurreccion. Because honestly I always looked at Ulquiorra’s Segunda etapa as unknown new territory made explicably to make Ulquiorra stand out further from other Espadas
One mistake in the video. Giriko said base grimmjows Gran Rey Cero had the edge in raw power over base ginjo's getsuga tensho but taking into consideration speed and the number of moves that he believed ginjo would have been able to cope with it. You said giriko said dessagaron. Just a small mistake there. And yes his dessagaron is VERY dangerous and OP like you said in the video. Post timeskip grimmjow could one-shot the upper ranked espada's with it.
The Bambis in particular didn’t make the most out of their abilities. Most sternritters lacked the imagination to properly use their powers and of course a significant spiritual pressure to back it up
Tsukishima saying ichigo was stronger than he expected should also imply he was talking about how strong he thought a fullbring should make ichigo right? Not simply ichigos old shinigami powers?
@aizensworld9309 then at 7:04, there would be a mistake calculating grimmjows ap. If ur not talking about ichigos old shinigami powers, there's no correlation between that, and grimmjows descaron.
@@Blackmustache870Ichigo’s estimated Fullbring powers were already thought to be on the same level as or stronger than his Shinigami and Hollow powers. If you wanna highball, you could say Tsukishima is aware of the level of power of Dangai Ichigo and 4th Fusion Aizen based on inserting himself into that battle….but if you don’t wanna highball and be conservative, then they would be talking about the Striped Mask Ichigo post Ulquiorra fight…the Ichigo that was relative enough to Base Aizen to damage him and stronger than Yama’s Hado 96 This is narratively consistent as they believed that stealing Ichigo’s Fullbring would give them the power to crush the Gotei 13. Base Aizen is essentially stronger than the entire pre Timeskip Gotei 13 besides Yama, who he’s relative to. Ichigo’s original powers surpassed Yama’s Hado in the 90s and was relative to Base Aizen. His Fullbring is even stronger than that. And obviously if the Gotei 13’s reiatsu ess reiatsu crushing hollows from miles away in the FKT battle, it’s obvious that Xcution would be able to sense all the reiatsu levels there, including Shikai Yama, Base Aizen, Urahara, Isshin, Striped Mask Ichigo etc and assess the level of power needed to take out the Gotei And this line of scaling is also consistent with Fullbringer Shikai and Bankai Ginjo before his resolve dropped being = to Fullbring Shikai and Bankai Ichigo, and an injured, exhausted, weakened Fullbring Bankai Ichigo was able to blow off Yhwach’s Blut and scorch his arm black. The Same Yhwach who’s base was strong enough to control the entirety of Yama’s Bankai, on top of killing and absorbing Royd and Yamamoto himself. Royd being someone who’s relative to Bankai Yama in all stats besides AP and is 70-80% of Base Yhwach’s strength, and Yama who is relative to but stronger than Royd Yhwach stacked both of their raw powers, stats and abilities into his base strength. So this includes Royd’s blut that can withstand Yama’s Bankai heat indirectly, Yhwach’s own blut which is superior to Royd’s, and Yama’s durability and heat resistance to his own 15million Celsius/27 million Fahrenheit flames via west…..And an injured and exhausted Fullbring Bankai Ichigo blew off this amped, heat resistant Yhwach’s blut and scorched his arm black And Fullbring Bankai Ginjo was = to a full power, fully healthy version of this Ichigo from just a few days before when his resolve wasn’t nerfed All that to say….Fullbring and Fullbring Shinigami Ichigo’s scaling is ridiculous
@@jocoolshow I'm too tired to read the rest rn, but could u point me to the source saying ichigos fullbring powers were estimated equal to his old powers?
Adjuchas, but they seemed to have either regressed or as far as Aizen sees them, he calls all of them Gillian’s. He classified their level as Gillian in the manga.
Grimmjow is a guardian of hueco mundo. Harribel is considered the queen by a bunch of people. Nel, Rokka, Rudoborn and tress bieasta are devoted to her
Rudoborn, loly, and menoly are more loyal to aizen. CFYOW makes this clear. LOL If Aizen came back to hueco mundo they would switch sides immediately. They are not truly loyal to harribel. Grimmjow is the guardian. Harribel is the queen. And Neliel is the knight.
@@BigJohn303 lol Rudobron knew that Aizen was disappointed with the arrancar. Yet he always felt like he has to retain a certain sense of duty to hueco mundo. If Aizen were to reappear they would submit to his unimaginable power. Aizen is done with hueco mundo. Gin made clear that the arrancar were hot heads who still had their own agenda .
@@Grayson-Winchester Harribel and grimmjow wouldn't. Harribel hates aizen for his betrayal and grimmjow refuses to play subordinate to anyone ever again which he makes clear during the fight with ikimikidomoe. Even though he knows he's going to lose he's going to fight aizen. He would die trying to kill aizen according to the novel. Neliel will likely side with harribel and run to get ichigo for help.
fbs ichigo >>>>>>>>> bankai ginjo fbs ichigo sucks, at best you can be like well he must be >> fkt shikai ichigo, who has no fair scaling, and is ~pre amp ginjo and tsukishima but tsuki is only vaguely stronger than bya and bya can be scaled very low if you want to desgarron is > 10x grc, respira is highly implied to be > and metralleta is 1000x++, this isn't supposed to somehow debunk the idea that grimm can oneshot espada with his attacks, but dropping the admitted headcanon that halibel should by virtue of rank have better abilities than desgarron, it would entail that fkt halibel could also oneshot every espada, which is hard to swallow, given e.g. starrk taking 0 cosmetic damage from multiple hits from love either way, really nice video as always
No she wouldn’t oneshot because even if she > Grimmjow, my reasoning was not vía maximum attack power. It would be vía overall combat prowess. Similar to Barragan. But either way there’s the whole thread of arguments to be had given the way CFYOW goes back and forth with power displays and statements 🤣 which is why I made an approach with the authors thoughts surrounding those feats and statements.
Fullbring Shikai Ichigo scales above Complete Fullbring Ichigo who scales above FKT Striped Mask Ichigo, Base Aizen, and Yama’s Hado 96 Ayon post timeskip would just scale above pre Timeskip due to the Tres Bestias (and all the Arrancar) being stronger to the point where Loly and Meninas who were legit fodder and not even Fraccion level pre timeskip was considered elite enough to be spared and taken into Yhwach’s Army by Quilge of all people. The Tres Bestias as actual Fraccion outscale both of them and Ayon is ridiculously stronger than the sum of his parts
Thanks so much for answering some of my questions regarding Grimmjow. Grimmjow's such a cool character, I hope he gets more showings in the TYBW anime.
Another great video idea is a video about Hallibel. Her power, etc.
No problem! Thank you for the contribution.
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Question, difference between Gran Rey Cero and Cero Oscuras. And one vs another.
I’ll cover this in a short or a full cero video.
@@aizensworld9309 Thanks . 😁.
@@aizensworld9309 Saw it, it was good.
1:28 is that a partial transformation or just a supercharged black Hierro. (Heared somewhere that it was a Hierro that was so strong that it resembled his Resurrección)
Yes it could be.
It's interesting that he somewhat softened his rivalry with Ichigo in CFYOW, even enquiring about Orihime being his 'mate'. All without compromising his lethality and drive to fight ever more powerful opponents. Him becoming a wandering fighter fits perfectly with his character, it makes you wonder what would happen if he ever encounters that one opponent who far outclasses and can one shot him. Will that be his end? He'd probably see that as worthy.
Yeah I love their CFYOW dynamic.
@@aizensworld9309 Indeed. If possible you should do a video examining Tokinada Tsunayshiro. For his laughing mad psychopathy there are jarring and meaningful nuances to his character well worth exploring. Keep up the great work!
I think you are making light of post timeskip grimmjows regular power output. When sensing base grimmjows power approaching the battlefield the combating sternritters and fullbringers were shook. And deemed his power too formidable to ignore ( base ginjo included. Who was stated by CFYOW base grimmjow to be the strongest of the combatants there when he arrived and gauged them all ). CFYOW tsukishima was wary sensing CFYOW base grimmjows power. Outright admitting CFYOW base grimmjow would not be easy for them the fullbringers to overcome ( he's including base ginjo in this ) unlike his past arrancar arc self. Yes Gran Rey Cero and dessagaron are attacks that allow you to hit WAY above your power level but grimmjows regular output is nothing to scoff at either. Also you leave out the fact grimmjow was nowhere near fresh when fighting ikimikidomoe while harribel and neliel pretty much were. And there is also the fact he was still standing after a direct attack from tokinada's Ryujin jakka flames albeit heavily injured and this was after the battle with ikimikidomoe. Arguably tokinada's strongest offensive ability. Heavily implying grimmjows body is more durable then harribel and neliels. He fought a powered up luppi, ikimikidomoe, and took a direct attack from tokinada all in one day.
If you approach from this angle while ignoring everything else Grimmjow would seem more favourable. However the objective is to find an overarching interpretation of his power. That means we have to consider being ‘formidable’ within a spectrum as on page 122 they also mentioned that his presence was mainly a nuisance given the unpredictable battlefield with too many enemies to focus on. Also we have Grimmjow’s own admittance, author statements which exist outside the domain of Grimmjow’s present condition and such. And they could fire off high powered attacks at the end of the encounter… (like Luppi firing octet ceros at Hikone) and this was after Ikomikidomoe observed their ceros and made his declarations(so a single cero wouldn’t be an issue even if you wanted to make that approach). Overall I wouldn’t change his scaling off this alone. If you want to add more stuff including scans, we have a Bleach server… discord.gg/D7jAdeRA we’d appreciate your contribution.🙂 Also you could very well grant him that scaling, if you feel it’s justified. Love the contribution 🙏
@@aizensworld9309Not just formidable. They said "too formidable". Tsukishima then backs this up with his own words. I'm not saying grimmjows regular power output is on barragan or ikimikidomoes level. Just that we can't make light of his normal power output and durability. I believe grimmjow, neliel, and harribel are all close in regular power output though I believe grimmjows hierro/durability is better from what we have seen in CFYOW. I agree grimmjow has more raw attack power then harribel and neliel when you include dessagaron which is FAR FAR from his regular power output.
@@ROBSULLTsukishima and Grimmjow were able to easily keep up with Grimmjow’s Sonido amped speed despite the fact that HSM is supposed to be perception blitz levels faster than your base speed and the fact that Sonido specifically is particularly hard to sense as it leaves no trace of the user
As far as AP and Durability goes, Tsukishima was able to casually cut through Grimmjow’s Hierro amped durability (which means his AP > Grimmjow’s regular AP as Hierro makes Espada more durable than their physical strength entails), and Ginjo looked at Grimmjow charge up a Grand Rey Cero, which is stronger than a Cero Oscuras, which in itself is an order of magnitude stronger than the user’s AP, and Ginjo laughed at the attack in excitement and said it might be a good match for his Base Getsuga Tensho. Giriko said the GRC might be stronger but Ginjo somewhat disagreed.
Even Giriko and Meninas were said to have physical strength on par with Zaraki.
Consistently he seems to be around the level of the CFYOW fem ritters in Base which is actually very good compared to his Arrancar arc scaling
Grimmjow need to become the strongest Hollow forreal
I personally wonder what if Grimmjow can obtain more power by having his Zanpakuto reforged into an Asauchi blade. Technically since Asauchi are made from a mass collection of souls, creating a hollow blade like Ikidimone (I know I butchered the name). Can not only give Pantera a new form but also take Pantera’s power even further in a form of a second release. A true Bankai equivalent Segunda Etapa to Resurreccion. Because honestly I always looked at Ulquiorra’s Segunda etapa as unknown new territory made explicably to make Ulquiorra stand out further from other Espadas
One mistake in the video. Giriko said base grimmjows Gran Rey Cero had the edge in raw power over base ginjo's getsuga tensho but taking into consideration speed and the number of moves that he believed ginjo would have been able to cope with it. You said giriko said dessagaron. Just a small mistake there. And yes his dessagaron is VERY dangerous and OP like you said in the video. Post timeskip grimmjow could one-shot the upper ranked espada's with it.
Oh I didn’t realize that I said Desgarron 😂. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@aizensworld9309 No problem. Also harribel states that grimmjow protects hueco mundo because of his animal instincts. He sees it as his territory.
Great video! Grimmjow is a great character and this video did hil justice!
Thank you and I hope it did him justice. There are ups and downs in CFYOW. One has to navigate a lot.
Thank you!
@@aizensworld9309 Please CFYOW Grimmjow VS Ulquiorra; who would win ??
A video like this for starrk would be amazing! Best espada besides Grimmjow
Yes, Starrk sounds good.
Would love for you to do this with Harribel
Harribel deserves a video for sure.
W content
Thanks!
You should do a Video ranking the espada both pre and post timeskip as well as ranking the sternritter. Awesome video btw!!
Those are some great ideas, sternritters are on my list.
A video ranking the sternritters please I hope you give the bambis the respect they deserve especially bambietta
Yes, this is on my list of videos.
The Bambis in particular didn’t make the most out of their abilities. Most sternritters lacked the imagination to properly use their powers and of course a significant spiritual pressure to back it up
Keep up the great content. I'm totally here for the Ulquiorra video if you make it.
I would love a video like this on stark
Sounds great!
Fire video my boi congratulations on 5k too can’t wait to see more vids like one for Ulquiorra Femritters etc 🔥🔥
Thank you!
Great video as always bro keep going
Thank you!
Great video as usual ! I’m looking forward to your Aizen vs ichigo’s video !
Grimmjow is the unofficial King of Hudson Mundo
Byakuya in fake karakura town vs Ulquiorra?
Nice, that would be entertaining.
We Want a Video for Baragan
Tsukishima saying ichigo was stronger than he expected should also imply he was talking about how strong he thought a fullbring should make ichigo right? Not simply ichigos old shinigami powers?
Yes 👍
@aizensworld9309 then at 7:04, there would be a mistake calculating grimmjows ap. If ur not talking about ichigos old shinigami powers, there's no correlation between that, and grimmjows descaron.
@@Blackmustache870Ichigo’s estimated Fullbring powers were already thought to be on the same level as or stronger than his Shinigami and Hollow powers. If you wanna highball, you could say Tsukishima is aware of the level of power of Dangai Ichigo and 4th Fusion Aizen based on inserting himself into that battle….but if you don’t wanna highball and be conservative, then they would be talking about the Striped Mask Ichigo post Ulquiorra fight…the Ichigo that was relative enough to Base Aizen to damage him and stronger than Yama’s Hado 96
This is narratively consistent as they believed that stealing Ichigo’s Fullbring would give them the power to crush the Gotei 13. Base Aizen is essentially stronger than the entire pre Timeskip Gotei 13 besides Yama, who he’s relative to.
Ichigo’s original powers surpassed Yama’s Hado in the 90s and was relative to Base Aizen. His Fullbring is even stronger than that. And obviously if the Gotei 13’s reiatsu ess reiatsu crushing hollows from miles away in the FKT battle, it’s obvious that Xcution would be able to sense all the reiatsu levels there, including Shikai Yama, Base Aizen, Urahara, Isshin, Striped Mask Ichigo etc and assess the level of power needed to take out the Gotei
And this line of scaling is also consistent with Fullbringer Shikai and Bankai Ginjo before his resolve dropped being = to Fullbring Shikai and Bankai Ichigo, and an injured, exhausted, weakened Fullbring Bankai Ichigo was able to blow off Yhwach’s Blut and scorch his arm black. The Same Yhwach who’s base was strong enough to control the entirety of Yama’s Bankai, on top of killing and absorbing Royd and Yamamoto himself. Royd being someone who’s relative to Bankai Yama in all stats besides AP and is 70-80% of Base Yhwach’s strength, and Yama who is relative to but stronger than Royd
Yhwach stacked both of their raw powers, stats and abilities into his base strength. So this includes Royd’s blut that can withstand Yama’s Bankai heat indirectly, Yhwach’s own blut which is superior to Royd’s, and Yama’s durability and heat resistance to his own 15million Celsius/27 million Fahrenheit flames via west…..And an injured and exhausted Fullbring Bankai Ichigo blew off this amped, heat resistant Yhwach’s blut and scorched his arm black
And Fullbring Bankai Ginjo was = to a full power, fully healthy version of this Ichigo from just a few days before when his resolve wasn’t nerfed
All that to say….Fullbring and Fullbring Shinigami Ichigo’s scaling is ridiculous
@@jocoolshow I'm too tired to read the rest rn, but could u point me to the source saying ichigos fullbring powers were estimated equal to his old powers?
Shawl0ng was Adjuchas or Gillian
I am confused on it
Adjuchas, but they seemed to have either regressed or as far as Aizen sees them, he calls all of them Gillian’s. He classified their level as Gillian in the manga.
@@aizensworld9309 So they aren't strong as Adjuchas or something
Kid zaraki vs cfyow grimjoww ?
top 4 espada vs first invasion sternritter
rukia vs bambis (not all at once)
stark vs bazz b
Grimmjow is a guardian of hueco mundo.
Harribel is considered the queen by a bunch of people. Nel, Rokka, Rudoborn and tress bieasta are devoted to her
Rudoborn, loly, and menoly are more loyal to aizen. CFYOW makes this clear. LOL If Aizen came back to hueco mundo they would switch sides immediately. They are not truly loyal to harribel. Grimmjow is the guardian. Harribel is the queen. And Neliel is the knight.
@@BigJohn303 lol Rudobron knew that Aizen was disappointed with the arrancar. Yet he always felt like he has to retain a certain sense of duty to hueco mundo.
If Aizen were to reappear they would submit to his unimaginable power. Aizen is done with hueco mundo.
Gin made clear that the arrancar were hot heads who still had their own agenda .
@@Grayson-Winchester Harribel and grimmjow wouldn't. Harribel hates aizen for his betrayal and grimmjow refuses to play subordinate to anyone ever again which he makes clear during the fight with ikimikidomoe. Even though he knows he's going to lose he's going to fight aizen. He would die trying to kill aizen according to the novel. Neliel will likely side with harribel and run to get ichigo for help.
Pls do bleach top 10 video
fbs ichigo >>>>>>>>> bankai ginjo
fbs ichigo sucks, at best you can be like well he must be >> fkt shikai ichigo, who has no fair scaling, and is ~pre amp ginjo and tsukishima but tsuki is only vaguely stronger than bya and bya can be scaled very low if you want to
desgarron is > 10x grc, respira is highly implied to be > and metralleta is 1000x++, this isn't supposed to somehow debunk the idea that grimm can oneshot espada with his attacks, but dropping the admitted headcanon that halibel should by virtue of rank have better abilities than desgarron, it would entail that fkt halibel could also oneshot every espada, which is hard to swallow, given e.g. starrk taking 0 cosmetic damage from multiple hits from love
either way, really nice video as always
No she wouldn’t oneshot because even if she > Grimmjow, my reasoning was not vía maximum attack power. It would be vía overall combat prowess. Similar to Barragan. But either way there’s the whole thread of arguments to be had given the way CFYOW goes back and forth with power displays and statements 🤣 which is why I made an approach with the authors thoughts surrounding those feats and statements.
@@aizensworld9309 ha, that's certainly true :D
@@rosurobosu8546Oh and thanks for that compliment, I hope I did Grimmjow some Justice.
@@aizensworld9309 I think you certainly did sir, it's a very nice treat for fans
Fullbring Shikai Ichigo scales above Complete Fullbring Ichigo who scales above FKT Striped Mask Ichigo, Base Aizen, and Yama’s Hado 96
Ayon post timeskip would just scale above pre Timeskip due to the Tres Bestias (and all the Arrancar) being stronger to the point where Loly and Meninas who were legit fodder and not even Fraccion level pre timeskip was considered elite enough to be spared and taken into Yhwach’s Army by Quilge of all people. The Tres Bestias as actual Fraccion outscale both of them and Ayon is ridiculously stronger than the sum of his parts