Red Inks Comparison #2
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2020
- In this video I compare Red Fountain Pen Inks that I have in my collection.
Inks compared in this video
- Waterman Audacious Red
- KWZ Thief's Red
- Diamine Cult Pens Robert
- Pelikan Edelstein Garnet
- Diamine Terracotta
- Akkerman Dutch Masters Rembrandt's Karmozijn
- Akkerman Dutch Masters Steenrood Van Vermeer
- De Atramentis Deep Water Obsession
- Diamine Matador
The pen used in this ink comparison is the William Shakour Titan Dip Pen, it’s a pen made by a UK Pen Collector William Shakour. I have a review of several of William's Titan pens including the full size and dip pens along with other accessories. You can see them on this playlist • William Shakour
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Waterman and Sheaffer are nice bright reds. For the darker red, Diamine Oxblood is it.
Professional presentation and in depth analysis with exquisite taste. Thumbs-up
Thank you kindly!
Thank you for making these ink comparisons. They have been exceptionally helpful. Please keep them coming.
All your presentations are top quality. RS. Canada
Glad you like them!
Thank you Dave for your second installment in the red inks comparison. I've purchased Akkerman DM Scharlaken van Jan Steen following the first comparison, and I'm writing with it today. I will definitely add Diamine Matador to the list of inks to check in my search for a replacement for MB Corn Poppy Red.
Hope you're liking Sharlaken Van Jan Steen, I find it a nice red. I was lucky recently to buy another 3x bottles on top of the 1.5 bottles I still have of MB Corn Poppy Red, it's one I really do like. I'm sure though there are others that could easily replace it over time, I think Diamine Poppy Red could potentially for me.
Love all these!
Another lovely bunch of reds, some of which made me want to buy lipstick! Love the Akkerman DM Rembrandts Karmozijn and the De Atramentis Deep Water Obsession, although I'm with you that that is more of a purple than a red. Diamine Matador is superb, too. I'm waiting on some cartridges of Graf von Faber-Castell India Red to try out and compare to my existing reds.
Thanks, I do definitely need to look at some Graf von Faber-Castell inks because I don't have any in my collection yet.
Thanks Dave, do keep up the good work :) It's really helpful, I have some of these and it's good to see a comparison and have a better idea about the ones I don't have. I love reds and I consider them business-environment friendly. I take meeting notes regularly using red ink.
Thanks! I'm glad I'm not the only one that takes meeting notes with red ink! Sometimes I will write pages just in red ink and other times I'll maybe write in a blue or green ink and use a red or orange ink as a highlighter for specific words or annotations to make them standout more. I never quite understand why some people avoid red inks, I always here the story about kids being horrified in school if their papers were marked with red inks, but to me the beauty about this hobby is that we have so many colours to choose from, it would be a shame to limit ourselves just to blue, blue/black or black.
Very nice inks! Thanks
Superb.
Thank you.
Thanks for this Dave - reds are (for me) the hardest colour to find what I'm looking for - I don't mind darker reds, but finding a 'bright' red that doesn't skew pink and isn't undersaturated is a challenge. Diamine Wild Strawberry is one that fits the slot for me (I know you've covered that in Comparison #1) - more recently though I bought a bottle of Montblanc Poppy Red (my only Montblanc ink!), and found it was another bright, "true red" ink. Might have to look into Waterman Audacious Red and/or KWZ Thief's Red - if I can find an Australian distributor for the latter!
Have you tried Diamine Poppy Red? That is a more vibrant brighter red than Wild Strawberry, if you compare the two side by side then Wild Strawberry looks a little more pastel. The only issue I've had with Diamine Poppy Red is that in a couple of very wet nibs I have had some feathering but most pens I put it in have not had any issues, this was on Rhodia paper. Montblanc Corn Poppy Red is a great ink, but if you like it you may want to get another bottle because it's now "end of life" and Montblanc are not making it anymore. I believe it's been replaced with Burgundy Red or Modena Red, neither I like as much. KWZ Thiefs Red is definitely a lovely red, I find Waterman Audacious Red a little more faded in pens when writing.
I was going to suggest Poppy Red, too. Though I also like Noodler's Cactus Fruit, Monteverde Ruby, and Monteverde Fireopal for their bright red property.
Akkerman is the only brand that I would love to own a bottle of all their inks. Relatively new to the hobby and missed out on the Dutch Master inks. I which they would bring back the DM colors even in smaller bottles.
Again a nice review!
I have the ‘Steenrood van Vermeer’ . It’s a great ink. I use it a lot for correcting tests.
Thanks! I guess you don't mind about correcting tests with red ink? I've heard that it gives some students nightmares but I honestly can't see why. I know some also say never write a letter with red ink, red ink makes you look angry, but I've never seen that myself.
Penultimate Dave some teachers don’t use red ink, but I really don’t mind. And red happens to be my favourite colour. 😉
Thanks! I think red adds a lot of nice colour to the page and helps stand out from other inks.
I'm not a big fan of red inks but I have 3 that I really like. Montblanc William Shakespeare Red Velvet, Ferris Wheel Press Candy Marsala, and the Cult Pens Robert. The DeAtramentis Deep Water looks purple to me as well so I'm interested in it because I love purple inks.
Thanks for the video. I've really been enjoying these.
Thanks! I keep looking at Montblanc William Shakespear Red Velvet and that's really hard to get now but it's one if I come across it and can get it for a good price then I will pick it up.
Purple is my favorite group of ink, with green a close second. Both keep me busy buying ink because there seems to be a limitless supply of both colors.
I love your ink comparisons! Though reds are not my favourite - and I have yet to define what I consider "red" because there are so may tonalities and I find it difficult to determine the cut-off point between orange-red, red, pinkish red, burgundy, maroon, red-brown - I like J. Herbin Rouge Grenat quite a lot. On white TR 52 gsm and Rhodia DotPad with 1911L H-F, H-MF, H-M, H-B (my F, MF and B are wetter than my M), it's dark, saturated, chromatic, has some shading. I like JH Rouge Bourgogne, but that's more of a blue-leaning pink (+/- fuchsia), unsaturated but bright, yet easy to read. Maybe Rouge Grenat could be defined as a browner version of Diamine Syrah, or a redder version of Rustic Brown? It's somewhere in between.
Thanks Chiara! Definitely the cut-off point between one colour and another colour is quite a fine line and different for many people. For me I tend not to like pinkish reds as much or maroon or burgundy strangely although FC Sweet Maroon I do like. Strangely although I don't like a pinkish red, I do like some hot pinks like Pilot Iroshizuku Tsutsuji or even Diamine Amaranth. Diamine Syrah I'm also not keen on for some reason. One thing I have found is that I have a lot (and I mean a lot) of Tomoe River 52gsm in both White and Cream and I do notice that inks change colour slightly depending on which colour paper I write on.
I really enjoyed these colors. Although I never thought about getting a reddish ink, deAtramentis Deep Water Obsession has piqued my interest.
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I love and use all the Waterman inks, including Audacious Red, and it falls in at number in my top five red inks list. It's just a red ink I grab when I want, well, an ordinary red ink. Diamine Terracotta is an ink I feel I should like more than I actually do. Oddly, I seldom use it except when I need to use cartridges because I know I'll have to change inks when on the run. Then I always take two or three of these cartridges with me. But I almost never touch the bottle of Terracotta ink I have.
Diamine Matador falls in and out of my favorite red inks list on a regular basis. So often that I should probably call it my "sixth man" red ink. I really do like it, and I use it often, but there always seems to be some new red ink that keeps Matador out of the top five.
I have a suggestion for a video: You get to pick one blue, one black, one red, one green, etc. to use for the rest of your life. Which would you select. (Ignore this if the suggestion is too crackpot).
That's an interesting video Peter, I can probably do that!
I could do so with blue, black, and red easy enough. I know it's an uncommon choice, but Lamy would be my blue ink. Noodler's Heart of Darkness would be my black ink, and Diamine Red Dragon would be my red ink. Right now, green would go to Monteverde Yosemite Green, and purple would go to De Atramentis Purple Violet. Pink would be Waterman Radiant Pink. Gray would be Noodler's Lexington gray. Orange would go to Private Reverse Orange Crush.
Give me a month or two, and all of these might change.
My problem would come with inks I don't know where to put. A very new favorite of mine is Montblanc James Purdey & Sons Single Malt scented ink. I absolutely love the color, but does it go in gold, yellow, or where?
And while Yosemite Green is definitely my top green, I love Iroshizuku Chiku-rin, which is a very light bamboo green. If I could do a dark green and a light green, I'd have an easier time of it. Same with the other colors.
@@jamesaritchie1 Thank you for such a comprehensive answer. Your are more decisive, and experienced, than I am in these choices. I readily agree with you on Heart of Darkness for black. I would select Monteverde California Teal for green I suppose, and Waterman Mysterious Blue, and Noodler's Tanzanite for closest to purple. For all other colors, I would lean toward Waterman and Parker as they perform well for me in every pen. For blue/black I like the color of Noodler's 54th Massachusetts, but it dries out on my nibs rather quickly so it will remain on the bench.
I have Noodler's Red Black. It is deeper than the Deep Water Obsession.
Nice video comparison... I know you are comparing inks still available on the market, but there is a classic ink that I really would like to see added to the video: Parker Quink Red.
Keep up with the good work.
Thanks! Sadly I don't have Parker Quink Red, although I may have to ask around to see if anyone does and can give me a sample.
@@PenultimateDave I can send you one. I'm from Portugal, if don't have anyone closer to send it to you I will be happy to do it.
Thanks, let me check with a few friends that have large ink collections as I know a few do have Parker inks, and if I can't get hold of one locally I'll let you know!
@@PenultimateDave I also have this...
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If you want a sample also, just send me an e-mail!
I have Waterman Encre Rouge red ink. I think it has less "orange" than the Audacious.
Diamine matador is my favorite! Try kaweco ruby red!!
Kaweco is another brand I don't yet have in my ink collection that I do need to explore.
Hiya Dave, thanks very much for another great video. Have you ever tried Pennonia ink from Hungary? I have just got some from Cult pens who translate the names of the colours in the colour selection box when purchasing, as tne names on the box are in Haugarian. I bought a colour called: Meggyes which is Sour cherry. I have only just got it so I'll let you know what it's like. From Lancashire.
I haven't yet had the pleasure of Pennonia inks but it's something i'm looking at possibly trying.
I really needed this. What's the pen you're using to dip?
It's a 3D Printed pen by William Shakour in the UK.
@@PenultimateDave Thanks, I just watched your review. I've been looking into #8 nib pens, and the Titan seems right up my alley.
Quick question: shading. Has it any affect on the pen you use or just the aesthetic on paper?
Also (thought it was 1 question) Sheening same question for this as well.
The sheening are very fantastic however it simply looks like they will be troublesome afterwards.... or if you’re the type to leave an ink sitting in your pen with out a long period of time....
Shading, typically is a tendency of the ink but you also want a wet writing nib to show the shading more.
Sheening is the same, you will see more the wetter the ink is on the page, but also sheening will only happen on ink resistant paper like Tomoe River more. Sheening ink has more dye concentration so it can be harder to clean out of some pens.
Penultimate Dave got it
Penultimate Dave thanks Dave, this dispels all the wonder.
Since your last "Red" video I've gotten Montblanc Burgundy Red and Diamine Candy Cane. I thought the Candy Cane would be more deeper red, but it seems like a less saturated version of Noodler's Tokyo Gift. I forgot to mention Tokyo Gift before and it's one of my favorites, more of a maraschino cherry red that performs great.
How are you liking Montblanc Burgundy Red? That's one I don't have yet, I do love Montblanc Corn Poppy Red and have been a bit spoilt on that one. I took a look at what Noodler's I can get here and it's not a great selection but I might have to talk to Ross at Pure Pens to get some other Noodler's inks in.
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The Burgundy Red is pretty nice and performs quite well. I'm using it with a medium nib that writes like a fine and I need to try it in something more substantial to really see its full potential. I really like Noodler's inks since they are a great value and have some very quirky performers. You will sometimes run into one that is overly pungent, like "North African Violet". When I was complaining about it on one of his videos Nathan informed me that it was intentional and made to smell like a brand of ink called Carter's. If that company was still making ink I sure wouldn't be buying any, lol.
I see Pure Pens has 10% off on Noodler's right now, although you guys are paying more for it. Some of the colors I like are Navajo Turquoise, Squeteague, Navy, Tiananmen and Army. They appear to have colors we don't have over here. Just be careful with those bottles because they are filled to the brim and are an accident waiting to happen.
Rosso Chianti and Rosso Melograno (pomegranate) from Scribo: has anyone tried them?
I only have Scribo Grey at the moment but I would like to try some of the Scribo inks as some of the ink swatches I've seen online look quite interesting.
@@PenultimateDave How is there grey? Cool like Fuyu-Syogun, middle-of-the road like Kiri-Same, warm like MB Oyster Grey, or purple-leaning like Diamine Earl Grey?
300?!? How long have u been into fountain pens Dave?
Since 2016 when I got back into fountain pens and when I started buying ink.
Diamine Robert looks somewhat like Communication Breakdown
I think when you make that amount of inks there are so many that start blending into each other in terms of likeness. I've noticed that Diamine Ochre and SBRE Brown is almost identical and Diamine Ochre is a lot more easier to get hold of.
@@PenultimateDave And a lot easier on the wallet too! Still, a nice brown to at least own one (one) bottle. It's 49 CAD plus tax, compared to Diamine Ochre 80ml which is 1/3 of the CAD price. Fortunately, if I throw in some inexpensive eraser for an extra dollar, shipping is free. :)
What paper do you use Dave?
For the ink testing I use Tomoe River. It's really my most favourite paper to use with fountain pens, although when I'm doing Currently Inked videos I tend to use Oxford Optik paper.
@@PenultimateDave Have you used TR paper with the "new" dot and square grids? I have seen them being advertised as less ink-repellent because they create space in the lines and dots so that ink will be absorbed better. I have a few Taroko notebooks bought a while back, and some of the inks I use get a bit repelled, while others don't at all, so I thought it was the ink.
Edit: Oops, forgot to ask: where do you get your Oxford Optik online please?
I like the color of the KMZ but the smell is a turnoff.
I guess it depends on whether you have an older bottle or a newer bottle, about 3 years ago they changed the fungicide agent and it now gives a little more sweeter vanilla like scent to the ink. I actually prefer that over the older smell but I know a lot of people don't like the vanilla type smell.
Strangely I have been caught a few times smelling my nib in a meeting because I'm like "I can smell vanilla" and I completely forget I have a KWZ ink in the pen.
300 inks.... I would suggest two things:
(Of course you maybe already doing these things)
Spreadsheet: color category distribution through out the week and month. This will help you through your rotation of color pallets. Ive dialed down my colurs to four (I have 11-12 inks now so i can easily rotate throughout the week....it works well)
the other suggestion.....
Sell some off in sample vials........ there are some serial ink changes out there that would be enthused and willing to acquire some off of you.
Again, just some suggestion to help you go through your mountain of inks..... which is quite impressive feat!
Id be a patron of some of your sample vials, unfortunately, you and I are in different continents and the arrival of delivery is a killer of my patience. (im still waiting for a new pen from January.....kinda wanna refund but still holding on)
Thanks, yes I have a very extensive spreadsheet of pens and inks and what is currently inked, so do track these very well so far and all have digital accurate swatches of the ink colours. The majority of the inks I have are inks that I do use, the ones I don't use I usually do give away to other pen friends.
Agree, delivery in COVID times is tough, I waited 3 months for delivery of some custom pen cases recently, so I do feel your pain with regards to waiting for a new pen and wanting a refund. I hope it turns up soon!
@@PenultimateDave THATS GOOD TO KNOW AND THANKS! I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION.