This made me plug mine in and play along. Thank fuck I'm old enough to have seen them be used for Swedish DM the first time round. Sometimes being an old fart pays off. Sounds to me how it should to be honest. I think a lot of people play it in isolation and don't realise that the bass does a lot of work in shaping the sound too. Sounds really gnarly with the MT-2w with the gainstaging set correctly. 🤘🤘
How are the old ones 12V? They have a 9V battery compartment. I got a Taiwan one recently and it had a 9V in it. Are the old Japan ones not able to use a 9V?
It's weird, the old ones, both MIJ and MIT had 12v adapters but internally converted it to 9v and people using the old ones either needed an adapter or to find the right power supply for these.
Love the HM2 but my wallet likes my eyemaster better. lol One thing I had no idea about was staking it with the metal zone. I'm gonna try that see how it goes.
I really love this pedal and the Waza Metal Zone they're amazing, so happy Boss released them. The metal zone is my black metal tone but the Hm2 I use more for doom and death metal tones. Hm2 is really great for doom I found but that makes sense so many of the classic death doom bands used them
You know.. A lot of the purists in the FB group for this thing actually thought that the reissue should have just been almost just a 1:1, with maybe just the improvements such as increased output and lower noise floor... Because messing with the pedal almost at all, just deviates from it being the ultimate chainsaw... So I'm not sure how they would have geared custom mode to please the chainsaw folk. To them, it's mostly OG HM-2 dimed or go home. It's so polarizing that even reiasuing this thing is like attaining Nirvana and intentionally stepping on a landmine simultaneously. 😂 So I further disagree... Messing with it all except for output and noise basically sticks it to the die hard enthusiasts... Hell.. Maybe even cutting the noise ruins it for some people! 😂
Hey cool video! Im a big boss collector so I love any demo/review on boss gear. At 12oclock in C mode it is same as all knobs dialed in original mode. Also to make switching like older pedals you can remove the small square bit of foam in battery compartment location and it will switch like they used too. Great content as always, thanks for the vids mate 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Some people hit it with a drive to tighten it up a bit, I use an hm2 like a boost already so I probably wouldn't be inclined to hit it with a drive first.
@@MetalHeadProductions that’s awesome. I’ve been wondering if the Dyna Red distortion/Martial Artist will get into the metal territory. Btw nice to see the Mig 50 get some love. How do like it compared to your other amps?
@@thetribalist6923 oh that's awesome. Hit me up through Instagram and we can see about me demoing something from you. Mig 50 is cool, great pedal platform, which is why I picked it up, and super loud. I got it to demo stuff like fuzz and distortion pedals so I didn't want it to be like my other more metal focused amps. It is a shame it doesn't have an FX loop, that was a miss on their part, but even still it is a better pedal platform than the marshall origin I had been using.
@@MetalHeadProductions my bad, I meant that I was a fan of Bearfoot FX. I don’t have any affiliation with them other than their from my home state lol I do own one of their fuzzes, and it’s awesome. The owner is a really cool guy named Don Rusk, but his stuff is never demoed for metal, so I’ve always wondered how their distortion would perform. My wife and I have a toddler and newborn, so I don’t spend much money on myself these days, otherwise I’d buy it just to try it out. I do know he has sent out boxes of his pedals to tryout in the past. Thanks for being really cool to your fanbase. I appreciate that you take time to respond and even offer to demo stuff! This video was awesome like all your others. Btw glad you liked the Mig 50. I’ve thought about getting that if I ever downsized. Stay metal bro!
My buddy just got a 35th anniversary PRS and wants to change pickups. I told him to watch your videos. He plays stuff like whitechapel, northlane, architects, etc. I told him black winter, nazgul/sentient, or dimarzio d-activator. Any opinions??
I'm a big fan of the black winters and the nazgul/sentient set for sure, although I tend to prefer the nazgul over the bw for extended range stuff, it's just cleaner on the low-end. The Jupiter is also a great shout, especially for low tuned but still really cutting tones, that thing is nuts. The Black Heaven from Lundgren is super aggressive and tighter than a black winter, I personally have really come to love that pickup the past year, and I also really like the BKP Ragnarok, it's really hot, nice wide sound and pairs really well with an overdrive as a boost.
@@MetalHeadProductions I just got the jackson usa misha juggernaut ht7 and it comes with ragnoraks. I love them as well. I got the daphne blue one new from MF.
@@MetalHeadProductions I'm selling all my clones (I'm 2k deep in these things lol}) after getting the Heavier Metal. It's super useful. I already have an MIJ and MIT and this does everything else. You can adjust the bloom on it which totally rules. I like it right on the cusp, because it makes the pedal reactive. It's super awesome to stack because of the control. Sounds great through the Stealth.
The disappointment is when are they going to release this pedal? I preordered this back in June. I am about ready to cancel my order cause I getting beyond tired of waiting. And you saying that the Waza HM-2 does not sound good when set at the chainsaw settings
It hit European markets already, which is how I got mine. I preordered the second they went up but sweetwater told me it'd be at least until mid september so I cancelled and found a seller in Europe who had stock. Covid has really made production difficult.
@@MrDream-zm1pw Yeah I'm in America. Paypal keeps taking the money out for it and ends up putting it back after a few days. I guess I made the mistake by ordering from Guitar Center. Guess I need to start being a Sweetwater customer for online orders. And leave GC for used stuff that I can leave the store with it in my hands.
YOU HAVE TO RUN IT INTO A DIRTY AMP TONE BEFORE YOU CAN FET TH CHAINSAW EVERYONE IS TALKIN ABOUT.THERE IS NO CHAINSAW SOUND WITHOUT RUNNING IT INTO AN ALREADY DISTORTED SIGNAL.
The HM 2 is not really a death metal pedal. It will sound really good when used for 80's hair metal guitar solos and riffs and classic rock solos. If I want to play death metal then I will use the Boss Metal Core pedal because it has more gain and I can tweak it to sound like any DM guitar sounds. I also use the Boss GE7 Equalizer after any high gain pedal. It can tailor the sound way better to sound like any genre. Easy fix.
Boss doesn't give a fuck about Death Metal, and they don't give a fuck about the community nor did they care to listen to them on this. Left Hand Wrath destroys this pile of shit. They missed the mark on this and it doesn't even hit the mark when it comes to the original. Support companies that actually care about Death Metal and listen to their customers.
Hey, man, so about the lhw, it might be the best chainsaw pedal in the world, but personally I have made my own personal choice not to be involved with lone wolf or promo those pedals. Glad you dig them, that's awesome, nothing against that.
@@MetalHeadProductions LWA still makes the best HM2 pedals on the market, personal choice or not. Not everyone can handle Joe and that's ok. Thanks for the demo. Lots of info out there unfortunately about the HM2 W and them missing the mark. Can check out HM2 Cults video and comparisons. Boss kinda just missed the mark all around with the community which was the biggest struggle being this was a community petitioned thing, then them not even listening. I think that's a bigger miss than them not even being able to replicate their own product. Cheers
@@sourcecompilestudios3554 Oh I know Terry and the hm2 cult channel, he did a pretty good video. I can respect Lone Wolf and the LHW have a lot of fans, but his approach is not what I want for the guitar and pedal community, so I have chosen not feature his pedals here. It's nothing personal. I will totally agree the the custom mode on the waza kinda sucks and it was a big miss to ignore the community for extra features. Like at the very least a clean blend is what most people wanted. They could have left out the custom mode entirely and just done the clean blend and this would be better.
Im enjoying mine. Will have to record it, for final verdict
Your video is the only one that has convinced me to give this pedal a try. Thank you. \m/
So did you try it??
This made me plug mine in and play along. Thank fuck I'm old enough to have seen them be used for Swedish DM the first time round. Sometimes being an old fart pays off.
Sounds to me how it should to be honest. I think a lot of people play it in isolation and don't realise that the bass does a lot of work in shaping the sound too.
Sounds really gnarly with the MT-2w with the gainstaging set correctly. 🤘🤘
The metal zone, and the heavy metal? At the same time? I’m genuinely surprised the universe didn’t fold in on itself.
That's how at the gates did it back in the day, haha
Best demo yet. Nice idea runing into the MZ as a preamp!
One of the only two videos in which the hm2 is used as a preamp. It sounds great to my taste.
Got a bit of a Dave Matthews tonal vibe.
Lol
Again.... awesome demo!!!! Really showed how much these both can do.. great tones..
How are the old ones 12V? They have a 9V battery compartment. I got a Taiwan one recently and it had a 9V in it. Are the old Japan ones not able to use a 9V?
It's weird, the old ones, both MIJ and MIT had 12v adapters but internally converted it to 9v and people using the old ones either needed an adapter or to find the right power supply for these.
Damn, I love the HM-2. Best pedal ever made. And noone can convince me otherwise 🥰
Love the HM2 but my wallet likes my eyemaster better. lol
One thing I had no idea about was staking it with the metal zone. I'm gonna try that see how it goes.
Its almost 3 in the morning. Why the fuck am I still awake
That's how UA-cam works
@@MetalHeadProductions well, you aren't exactly WRONG
I really love this pedal and the Waza Metal Zone they're amazing, so happy Boss released them. The metal zone is my black metal tone but the Hm2 I use more for doom and death metal tones. Hm2 is really great for doom I found but that makes sense so many of the classic death doom bands used them
Excellent job man.i love it.
You know.. A lot of the purists in the FB group for this thing actually thought that the reissue should have just been almost just a 1:1, with maybe just the improvements such as increased output and lower noise floor... Because messing with the pedal almost at all, just deviates from it being the ultimate chainsaw... So I'm not sure how they would have geared custom mode to please the chainsaw folk. To them, it's mostly OG HM-2 dimed or go home. It's so polarizing that even reiasuing this thing is like attaining Nirvana and intentionally stepping on a landmine simultaneously. 😂
So I further disagree... Messing with it all except for output and noise basically sticks it to the die hard enthusiasts... Hell.. Maybe even cutting the noise ruins it for some people! 😂
Hey cool video! Im a big boss collector so I love any demo/review on boss gear.
At 12oclock in C mode it is same as all knobs dialed in original mode. Also to make switching like older pedals you can remove the small square bit of foam in battery compartment location and it will switch like they used too.
Great content as always, thanks for the vids mate 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I don't believe that's true about C mode. There is a pretty dramatic shift in what frequencies are even being effected I'm C vs standard.
@@MetalHeadProductions thats what Yoshi has stated on talk with boss, i cant confirm or deny yet as im still waiting for mine to arrive in the post.
@@bossistheboss6996 I'd have to say that's not the case, the boss site also lists the custom mode has had a tone tweak.
I hope you're right
Would you hookup an overdrive to this beast of a pedal to get more sound from it ?
Some people hit it with a drive to tighten it up a bit, I use an hm2 like a boost already so I probably wouldn't be inclined to hit it with a drive first.
Digging the new set up. Have you ever considered doing a video on any Bearfoot FX pedals?
Yeah, I'm always down to demo cool stuff if I think it will work out on the channel.
@@MetalHeadProductions that’s awesome. I’ve been wondering if the Dyna Red distortion/Martial Artist will get into the metal territory.
Btw nice to see the Mig 50 get some love. How do like it compared to your other amps?
@@thetribalist6923 oh that's awesome. Hit me up through Instagram and we can see about me demoing something from you.
Mig 50 is cool, great pedal platform, which is why I picked it up, and super loud. I got it to demo stuff like fuzz and distortion pedals so I didn't want it to be like my other more metal focused amps. It is a shame it doesn't have an FX loop, that was a miss on their part, but even still it is a better pedal platform than the marshall origin I had been using.
@@MetalHeadProductions my bad, I meant that I was a fan of Bearfoot FX. I don’t have any affiliation with them other than their from my home state lol I do own one of their fuzzes, and it’s awesome. The owner is a really cool guy named Don Rusk, but his stuff is never demoed for metal, so I’ve always wondered how their distortion would perform.
My wife and I have a toddler and newborn, so I don’t spend much money on myself these days, otherwise I’d buy it just to try it out. I do know he has sent out boxes of his pedals to tryout in the past.
Thanks for being really cool to your fanbase. I appreciate that you take time to respond and even offer to demo stuff! This video was awesome like all your others. Btw glad you liked the Mig 50. I’ve thought about getting that if I ever downsized. Stay metal bro!
@@thetribalist6923 no worries, man
My buddy just got a 35th anniversary PRS and wants to change pickups. I told him to watch your videos. He plays stuff like whitechapel, northlane, architects, etc. I told him black winter, nazgul/sentient, or dimarzio d-activator. Any opinions??
I'm a big fan of the black winters and the nazgul/sentient set for sure, although I tend to prefer the nazgul over the bw for extended range stuff, it's just cleaner on the low-end. The Jupiter is also a great shout, especially for low tuned but still really cutting tones, that thing is nuts. The Black Heaven from Lundgren is super aggressive and tighter than a black winter, I personally have really come to love that pickup the past year, and I also really like the BKP Ragnarok, it's really hot, nice wide sound and pairs really well with an overdrive as a boost.
@@MetalHeadProductions I just got the jackson usa misha juggernaut ht7 and it comes with ragnoraks. I love them as well. I got the daphne blue one new from MF.
@@ryanparker584 that's awesome, those Jacksons are beautiful.
Reminds me of The Carpenters
Imagine this with Fuzz Factory lmao.
The low end clarity is non existent. Fartathon
That is the hm2 sound, haha
Unless you play death metal, you really do not need it.
This does not mean you shouldn't get it though. ;-)
The Bear Amps Heavier Metal solution is superior to a clean blend. Try a blender pedal with it.. It's almost useless.
I've talked with Bear a couple of times in some pedal groups. Seems like a good, dude.
I agree,he does seem pretty cool and quite a nice guy.
@@MetalHeadProductions I'm selling all my clones (I'm 2k deep in these things lol}) after getting the Heavier Metal. It's super useful. I already have an MIJ and MIT and this does everything else. You can adjust the bloom on it which totally rules. I like it right on the cusp, because it makes the pedal reactive. It's super awesome to stack because of the control. Sounds great through the Stealth.
@@MetalHeadProductions being a cool dude, unfortunately doesn't a good pedal make... but he sure made a badass pedal and is cool to boot! Hehe
The disappointment is when are they going to release this pedal? I preordered this back in June. I am about ready to cancel my order cause I getting beyond tired of waiting. And you saying that the Waza HM-2 does not sound good when set at the chainsaw settings
It hit European markets already, which is how I got mine. I preordered the second they went up but sweetwater told me it'd be at least until mid september so I cancelled and found a seller in Europe who had stock. Covid has really made production difficult.
Are you in the states or where? Sweet water shipped mine today. Preordered in June as well.
@@MrDream-zm1pw Yeah I'm in America. Paypal keeps taking the money out for it and ends up putting it back after a few days. I guess I made the mistake by ordering from Guitar Center. Guess I need to start being a Sweetwater customer for online orders. And leave GC for used stuff that I can leave the store with it in my hands.
@@watcherzero000 damn bro, stupid guitar center. Good luck man!
@@MrDream-zm1pw Thanks, it is Sweetwater and Thomann from here on out.
Put the sd1 in front of it
Already sold it, haha
@@MetalHeadProductions words from a Gen-x you should aways keep a sd -1 with you at all times it will save you everytime
@@johnquiroz8279 I sold the hm2w not the sd1 I have.
YOU HAVE TO RUN IT INTO A DIRTY AMP TONE BEFORE YOU CAN FET TH CHAINSAW EVERYONE IS TALKIN ABOUT.THERE IS NO CHAINSAW SOUND WITHOUT RUNNING IT INTO AN ALREADY DISTORTED SIGNAL.
To my hears, it consistently sounded unpleasant in all the combinations....
I mean, that is a bit of the point of the swedish chainsaw
To my ears it sounded filthy and nasty....so I bought one 😃👍
A bit like pineapple pizza... I get it... but just not my thing... ;-)
@@stefanosella5719 That's fair.
@@stefanosella5719 fair enough
The HM 2 is not really a death metal pedal. It will sound really good when used for 80's hair metal guitar solos and riffs and classic rock solos. If I want to play death metal then I will use the Boss Metal Core pedal because it has more gain and I can tweak it to sound like any DM guitar sounds. I also use the Boss GE7 Equalizer after any high gain pedal. It can tailor the sound way better to sound like any genre. Easy fix.
It is the sound of specifically swedish death metal from the 90s. Nothing else gets that particular sound.
Yeah, I always play my '80's hair metal riffs and solos through the HM-2. But it truly shines playing smooth jazz standards.
Boss doesn't give a fuck about Death Metal, and they don't give a fuck about the community nor did they care to listen to them on this. Left Hand Wrath destroys this pile of shit. They missed the mark on this and it doesn't even hit the mark when it comes to the original. Support companies that actually care about Death Metal and listen to their customers.
Hey, man, so about the lhw, it might be the best chainsaw pedal in the world, but personally I have made my own personal choice not to be involved with lone wolf or promo those pedals. Glad you dig them, that's awesome, nothing against that.
@@MetalHeadProductions LWA still makes the best HM2 pedals on the market, personal choice or not. Not everyone can handle Joe and that's ok. Thanks for the demo. Lots of info out there unfortunately about the HM2 W and them missing the mark. Can check out HM2 Cults video and comparisons. Boss kinda just missed the mark all around with the community which was the biggest struggle being this was a community petitioned thing, then them not even listening. I think that's a bigger miss than them not even being able to replicate their own product. Cheers
@@sourcecompilestudios3554 Oh I know Terry and the hm2 cult channel, he did a pretty good video.
I can respect Lone Wolf and the LHW have a lot of fans, but his approach is not what I want for the guitar and pedal community, so I have chosen not feature his pedals here. It's nothing personal.
I will totally agree the the custom mode on the waza kinda sucks and it was a big miss to ignore the community for extra features. Like at the very least a clean blend is what most people wanted. They could have left out the custom mode entirely and just done the clean blend and this would be better.