I've been searching for this explanation for 4 days now. Thank you so much! I was about to bring my brand new yamaha to the repair shop because of that middle G and i found your video. It's just an embochure problem.
I've really done the deep dive in this and I *think* I finally arrived at an answer 🤞🏼🤞🏼. The short answer is tune your sax for G with the octave key. I was tuning for middle B, which made octave G play sharp. Playing sharp I believe made it easy to multiphonic (perhaps with G#?). I had to pull my mouth piece out so far that I need to change to one with a smaller bore diameter, a new NY 6* metal Ottolink. That forced me to adjust my embouchure to get the rest of the sax in tune and to use a softer reed. But so far it's working 🤞🏼🤞🏼
I have had a lot of issues on my (cheap China) saxophone, I managed to fix most of the problems, and with a new better mouthpiece it started to actually sound quite ok, .. except the G key! With your video I have now an understanding of whats needed to get the G key sound properly. I can't thankyou enough!
Hi! It was very difficult finding any helpful information that was useful when it came to 'how to correct squeaks on Tenor Sax while playing G with octave key --Both playing the note straight away AND switching notes over to G with octave key. I know it's me, 100% so I will try your helpful tips and let you know how it goes. Thanks so much for your relatable teaching style. Cheers!
thanks for this great video, I also experienced the same problem. Since i mostly play alto, i was wondering if there is a problematic tone on the alto causing similar problems
i had that warble sound on my G as well. About 10% of the time, I would get that warble. I had it on my rental instrument, and when my lease expired, I got a new sax (YAS 480), and had the same problem! My sax had been thoroughly checked out by techs. When I went from a Legere AC 1.75 to a 2.0, the problem went away. So I think it had something to do with my embouchure. I found the 2.0 reed challenging at first, but now I'm totally used to it and haven't had a warble since. I know that I should have been able to make a good, consistent sound with the 1.75 reed- I might try that again and see if the problem comes back. I think it all points to problem with me and not the equipment. I'm going to go through your tips. Thank you!
I'm gonna check out to see if there is moisture in the vent on the side. I have had repeated problems with g and g# on tenor sax and it's not a specific sax. In fact, I traded a sax in because I thought it was the sax! Now, my new one is having the exact same problem. Thank you for making this video.
Did some playing last night and the notes g and g# are really tricky when I am playing softly (less air). They almost always pop up (d/d# I think?) When I am playing loudly, I am not nearly as frightened. I am playing on a 4 rico with a Selmer C*. Wondering if the tip opening on the c* is a big small.
Hey Nicola, I'm not a huge fan of standard Rico reeds to be honest, I think a number 4 is a bit much for an S80! Try a Vandoren 2.5 traditional with that piece and let me know if you still have the same issues!
Thank you so much for your reply! I am still having the same issues. Now using a 3.5 Vandoren blue box with the S80. I have tried all different types of pieces as well, just to try all options.
I have to do the same thing with changing pressure on G, G#. I use thin reeds and large tips. Usually a #2 reed with a number 7-9 mouthpiece. You can't expect the G's to work without some conscious thought to it.
Yep, sometimes it feels like the notes are on a knife edge. That's very much the trade off with larger tip opening. You have far more scope for harmonics, bends but need far more control for the regular range. Interesting stuff, the large tips at least highlight floors in your embouchure! Happy saxing Chris.
i got problem with the lower G and A (both seems to activate the same two pad). they sound like a goose. when i quickly go thru all the note up or down without touguing they sound alright, but when i try to make them individually they sound higher than they should. can somebody help me?
If your sax's condition's OK: - Make that sound happen straight away and work it backwards - Pull your bottom lip back - Take in less mouthpiece - Put less pressure on the bottom - Hear the note that you're playing - Sing it out loud - Get used to knowing the note comes out of the sax
I've been searching for this explanation for 4 days now. Thank you so much! I was about to bring my brand new yamaha to the repair shop because of that middle G and i found your video. It's just an embochure problem.
I've really done the deep dive in this and I *think* I finally arrived at an answer 🤞🏼🤞🏼. The short answer is tune your sax for G with the octave key. I was tuning for middle B, which made octave G play sharp. Playing sharp I believe made it easy to multiphonic (perhaps with G#?). I had to pull my mouth piece out so far that I need to change to one with a smaller bore diameter, a new NY 6* metal Ottolink. That forced me to adjust my embouchure to get the rest of the sax in tune and to use a softer reed. But so far it's working 🤞🏼🤞🏼
I have had a lot of issues on my (cheap China) saxophone, I managed to fix most of the problems, and with a new better mouthpiece it started to actually sound quite ok, .. except the G key! With your video I have now an understanding of whats needed to get the G key sound properly. I can't thankyou enough!
Fantastic to hear! The Chinese Saxes can be hit and miss.
Wow this showed exactly the problem I was having. Knowing the problem is me and not the horn makes it fixable.
As a sax player who is having this exact problem, this was phenomenally useful. Thank you so much for making your expertise freely available.
Most welcome Codswallop!
Absolute life saver I’ve been having problems with the G but I assessed it as I’m not good enough yet😂
Most welcome! Overblown Gs and Ds are super common.
Hi! It was very difficult finding any helpful information that was useful when it came to 'how to correct squeaks on Tenor Sax while playing G with octave key --Both playing the note straight away AND switching notes over to G with octave key. I know it's me, 100% so I will try your helpful tips and let you know how it goes. Thanks so much for your relatable teaching style. Cheers!
You are welcome!
This is brilliant. I found this by searching for this exact problem. Very clear and helpful explanation. I appreciate it!
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the explanation! It really helped
Thank you so much! This helped me sound really good now, your a life saver
thanks for this great video, I also experienced the same problem.
Since i mostly play alto, i was wondering if there is a problematic tone on the alto causing similar problems
i had that warble sound on my G as well. About 10% of the time, I would get that warble. I had it on my rental instrument, and when my lease expired, I got a new sax (YAS 480), and had the same problem! My sax had been thoroughly checked out by techs. When I went from a Legere AC 1.75 to a 2.0, the problem went away. So I think it had something to do with my embouchure. I found the 2.0 reed challenging at first, but now I'm totally used to it and haven't had a warble since. I know that I should have been able to make a good, consistent sound with the 1.75 reed- I might try that again and see if the problem comes back. I think it all points to problem with me and not the equipment. I'm going to go through your tips. Thank you!
The same thing happens to me too and it’s been pissing me off
This is so helpful
Thank you Sandy!
I'm gonna check out to see if there is moisture in the vent on the side. I have had repeated problems with g and g# on tenor sax and it's not a specific sax. In fact, I traded a sax in because I thought it was the sax! Now, my new one is having the exact same problem. Thank you for making this video.
Did some playing last night and the notes g and g# are really tricky when I am playing softly (less air). They almost always pop up (d/d# I think?) When I am playing loudly, I am not nearly as frightened. I am playing on a 4 rico with a Selmer C*. Wondering if the tip opening on the c* is a big small.
Hey Nicola, I'm not a huge fan of standard Rico reeds to be honest, I think a number 4 is a bit much for an S80! Try a Vandoren 2.5 traditional with that piece and let me know if you still have the same issues!
Thank you so much for your reply!
I am still having the same issues. Now using a 3.5 Vandoren blue box with the S80. I have tried all different types of pieces as well, just to try all options.
Thank you. My horn has had loads of issues and I wasn't sure if this one was just me. (It was)
Let's try it...
This helped me soooo much
I have to do the same thing with changing pressure on G, G#. I use thin reeds and large tips. Usually a #2 reed with a number 7-9 mouthpiece. You can't expect the G's to work without some conscious thought to it.
Yep, sometimes it feels like the notes are on a knife edge. That's very much the trade off with larger tip opening. You have far more scope for harmonics, bends but need far more control for the regular range. Interesting stuff, the large tips at least highlight floors in your embouchure! Happy saxing Chris.
Same!
Yoww i was going to return my yamaha yas, thought factory defect, thanks dude
i got problem with the lower G and A (both seems to activate the same two pad). they sound like a goose. when i quickly go thru all the note up or down without touguing they sound alright, but when i try to make them individually they sound higher than they should.
can somebody help me?
If your sax's condition's OK:
- Make that sound happen straight away and work it backwards
- Pull your bottom lip back
- Take in less mouthpiece
- Put less pressure on the bottom
- Hear the note that you're playing
- Sing it out loud
- Get used to knowing the note comes out of the sax
Can you do "Taking my time on my ride" by 21 pilots
This is the same problem am facing
Thank you a lot!
How do you play tartini tones on the alto sax?
So I am causing my G to sound verry jazzy and gritty, there is no problem with my sax you say?
I'm not 100% sure what you mean but if its splitting everytime it's either a problem with your sax or your embouchure /airflow.
Where have you been
This video is godsent
❤️❤️❤️
@@SaxCasts but it definitely didn't permanently fix the issue
Most cases its the crook key adjustment....😉