Sauron vs. Aragorn vs. Tom Bombadil vs. Shelob | Commander Clash S15E5

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 340

  • @SantaCatcher9000
    @SantaCatcher9000 Рік тому +221

    Seth: does something to Crim
    Crim: I’ll never forgive Tomer

  • @wiseguy425
    @wiseguy425 Рік тому +206

    I like the flavor win of having all the LOTR videos being about the same lengths as the movies

    • @VivBrodock
      @VivBrodock Рік тому +5

      Cute that you think the movies are only two and a half hours

    • @wiseguy425
      @wiseguy425 Рік тому +9

      @@VivBrodock I mean it's only 20 minutes shorter than fellowship and the first game they played of the precons was over 3 hours so pretty close

    • @SxTheBo
      @SxTheBo Рік тому +1

      Would be a nightmare for the editor but I'll love to see an half hour version of those video, don't have time for the full 3 hour gameplay

  • @Ramschat
    @Ramschat Рік тому +94

    Crim loudly complaining about his Commander not sticking around while Tomer wallows in despair is hilarious

  • @ToSGod
    @ToSGod Рік тому +126

    I’m a little sad to see Tomers deck get hated out. I was so excited to see Aragorn Charms. :-/

    • @robertthomas-ps1nn
      @robertthomas-ps1nn 9 місяців тому

      yes this

    • @christopherwilson39
      @christopherwilson39 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah literally why I watched this video back was to see what he put together for Aragorn, just to waste 2 1/2 hours of my time watching everyone put all their resources into fucking him over all game.

    • @loganshy2570
      @loganshy2570 3 місяці тому

      😢

  • @tervermer8092
    @tervermer8092 Рік тому +190

    Wow this Tomer guy seems like a fun dude! Hopefully next week the group will let him bring a deck and play a game.

    • @nathangardner4084
      @nathangardner4084 Рік тому +8

      thats just how it be sometimes, not his fault but not the others as well

    • @gabriellecureux5528
      @gabriellecureux5528 Рік тому +1

      Man imagine if he could right

    • @Leovold
      @Leovold Рік тому +5

      @@nathangardner4084 It's definitely the others fault are you mental? They didn't have to hate him out of the game.

    • @TheSmartestManonEarth
      @TheSmartestManonEarth 7 місяців тому

      I have a suspicion that is tomer

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing Рік тому +162

    Man, the amount of hate for tomer’s deck this game was out of control lol, I’d love to see it come back for revenge week

    • @Skrotislol
      @Skrotislol Рік тому +34

      Aragorn really isn't a "play on 4" commander. It's more like a "play on 7 with a charm in hand". It draws insane aggro and has no protection.

    • @Spirited_skiing
      @Spirited_skiing Рік тому +18

      I mean, I get it the first 2 or 3 times it got killed lol but after awhile it just felt silly

    • @colecarmichael5724
      @colecarmichael5724 Рік тому +14

      The board wipes didn’t just target arragon and I think the hate was split between him and crim perfectly balanced as all things should be

    • @Dom9606
      @Dom9606 Рік тому +15

      if your deck relies on your commander like voltron that's kinda the risk

    • @TheSassaboss
      @TheSassaboss Рік тому +2

      Turn order bullying, they're making Seth answer him because he's up next.

  • @davidarmstrong3964
    @davidarmstrong3964 Рік тому +83

    Tomer how could you forget about the two blue wizards…who never play into the story at all.

    • @MTGGoldfishCommander
      @MTGGoldfishCommander  Рік тому +72

      I wanted to keep it brief since the rest of the table would fall asleep :(

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 Рік тому +4

      ​@@MTGGoldfishCommander
      You also missed that Morgoth isn't a Maiar he was one of the Airnur. It goes The GOD, the Airnur which can be called God's as they are the ones that created the different races. Then the Maiar are angels that serve the Airnur.

    • @scarecr0w630
      @scarecr0w630 Рік тому +2

      ​@atk9989 sorry what did I miss? I fell asleep reading that

    • @exsnypre
      @exsnypre Рік тому +10

      @@atk9989 Ainur is the term for all the immortal spirits that existed before the creation of Middle Earth, which includes the Maiar. The term you wanted was the Valar, which Melkor/Morgoth was.

    • @malcirhodes3
      @malcirhodes3 8 місяців тому

      ​@@exsnypreFunnily enough the Elves were originally Ainur. Made to be the successors of the Valar, but many ended up falling and being cast out to Middle Earth.

  • @DaBoyChinWonder
    @DaBoyChinWonder Рік тому +45

    Sweet-gum recluse is on ALL creatures that entered that turn. Give the boy Finn the counters he deserves!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish Рік тому +15

      Wait, really? Oops...

    • @ArmageddonAsh
      @ArmageddonAsh Рік тому +5

      @@MTGGoldfish Yeah it showed that poor ewit was an option but got ignored :( Lol

    • @DonovanPresents
      @DonovanPresents Рік тому +3

      I was upset when I saw that, too 😂

    • @TMidander
      @TMidander Рік тому

      @@MTGGoldfish The best part was the others tried to help you out but nope :D you didn't believe them.

  • @b0lkan
    @b0lkan Рік тому +58

    I like how Richard's deck is > $1k, Crim's is ~$940 and yet Tomer with his $140 deck is the one getting targeted. :D

    • @Misterzen87
      @Misterzen87 Рік тому +11

      The 1% vs middle class 😅

    • @brandyourfan9244
      @brandyourfan9244 Рік тому +4

      I like how the deck's price is what you focus on.
      Charms is a cool build, but they are all dirt cheap.
      Every deck at their power level is gonna have a "price advantage" on Lucky Charms 🍀

  • @Grimlock2183
    @Grimlock2183 Рік тому +69

    After watching the season so far, i definitely prefer the old thumbnails and intro. Gave the episodes some unique flavor. (I totally didn't gloss over this video twice on my home page cause i thought it was just another random commander game getting recommended to me)

  • @Mithrandork
    @Mithrandork Рік тому +27

    Seth wanting to use an edict for Sauron when an edict will very rarely kill him because he'll amass when you cast the edict 😂

    • @skykur
      @skykur Рік тому +7

      This is why soul shatter is my favorite black removal spell in the game. It’s not perfect, but hitting the highest cost creature of every opponent is insane

    • @Mithrandork
      @Mithrandork Рік тому +3

      @@skykur Soul Shatter is a great answer to Sauron! Grave Pact effects work great too since you're not casting anything extra for the edict

    • @soleo2783
      @soleo2783 5 місяців тому

      Shouldred's edict works too

  • @ad5198
    @ad5198 Рік тому +31

    I miss getting little deck techs at the beginning. I feel like all the banter and character has been sapped out of the intros

  • @insanekidakaneil
    @insanekidakaneil Рік тому +6

    Richard, I’ve built a Tom Bombadil deck that’s more focused on adding and removing counters from sagas, as well as flickering them. When you can double up on saga triggers, they go from mediocre to quite good!

    • @tomduckworth6430
      @tomduckworth6430 Рік тому +1

      I also feel like he isn’t playing enough Sagas. I only counted 20.

  • @hat1629
    @hat1629 Рік тому +13

    tomer showing clearly that every deck needs ways to exist without the commander in play

    • @brandyourfan9244
      @brandyourfan9244 Рік тому +2

      Nothing wrong with a commander centric deck.
      Tomer just needed way better protection for his pseudo-Voltron commander

  • @seandun7083
    @seandun7083 Рік тому +15

    I like how everyone spewed off a bunch of boardwipes in the early game, then Tomer and Richard die after shuffling away board wipes that has been in their hands for a while, then Crim gets back in the game by casting 3 more board wipes.

  • @FuturePreference
    @FuturePreference Рік тому +18

    Tomer gets archenemy hated out again, again, again =/ Crim immediately starts hitting him every turn and attacking him with creatures every turn, then Tomer wants to board wipe, and Crim attacks him "because you are going to board wipe". Like, what is Tomer supposed to do? Tomer is archenemy with an empty board lol.

    • @darkflame9410
      @darkflame9410 Рік тому +12

      Part of it I'm sure was Crim playing it up as "the troll" since thats sort of his character in the crew.
      That said, this is definitely one of those games where, were I in Tomer's shoes, I'd have scooped and found another game instead.

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 Рік тому +12

      Tomer is the kind of player who makes greedy plays and then whines about getting punished. I'm surprised there are people who feel sympathetic for him. If you don't want to keep getting blown out, try to play with some nuance. Jamming your commander on a vulnerable board over and over and then complaining about it? Not a good look.

    • @jordankremen2845
      @jordankremen2845 Рік тому +4

      @@jeffe2267 This was a perfect summation of exactly what I have been thinking.

    • @SabeJones
      @SabeJones Рік тому +2

      @@jeffe2267 Yeah, if Crim's shtick is making troll plays, then Tomer's is making *bad* plays and then getting salty when they don't work out.

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 Рік тому +3

      ​@@jeffe2267how is playing your commander in a deck that does nothing without it a greedy play? Plus it wasn't just board wipes, even Seth was using targeted removal on Tomers commander.

  • @TinyLegs15243
    @TinyLegs15243 Рік тому +20

    Its not that people think you don't run interaction. It's that you all tend to run a lot of board wipes instead of a lot of single target. Restarting the game instead of dealing with singular/some threats will make a game go longer. As always love the content though!

    • @2strokemopedlife459
      @2strokemopedlife459 Рік тому +5

      I'm afraid the new trend will be instead of spot removal everyone will just mainboard 10 boardwipes

    • @TinyLegs15243
      @TinyLegs15243 Рік тому +3

      @@2strokemopedlife459 even in a boardwipe heavy deck that I have (8 board wipes) which is on theme with the control theme for Nevinryyal, I still run plenty of single target removal so that I don’t constantly reset myself dealing with 1 threat.

    • @thegreatestblood
      @thegreatestblood Рік тому

      @@TinyLegs15243 running a lot of single target removal sounds like a bad idea in a nevin deck. having nevinryyal die basically resets the board and provides zombies if he comes back on the same turn.

    • @TinyLegs15243
      @TinyLegs15243 Рік тому +1

      @@thegreatestblood it’s good if you run not a lot of creatures and are going infinite.

    • @abstractsymmetricity
      @abstractsymmetricity Рік тому +1

      Yes that's good deckbuiling for better or for worse.

  • @sonicdueler
    @sonicdueler Рік тому +39

    Seth bashes the dark lord when rating qnd then has the audacity to claim he rated it a A, he gave it a B and bashed its ward 😂

  • @2strokemopedlife459
    @2strokemopedlife459 Рік тому +22

    This game was BRUTAL to watch for me, while I like interaction, the amount of wraths good God

  • @Drakksy
    @Drakksy Рік тому +24

    I'm very impressed that Richard built his mana base around the cards he would have in the first 6 turns in a 100 card singleton format. He's just simply better.

  • @Minedeleis
    @Minedeleis Рік тому +14

    Why is Seth so surprised that Grim is playing one of the only grixis commanders in LotR

  • @odditiescollector4540
    @odditiescollector4540 Рік тому +6

    with how well the dark lord performed it would be interesting to see a commander clash episode where each player is playing a commander to defend the rank they gave it that the other players disagreed on e.g. richard and seth didnt think this version of sauron was S tier threat and now realise it

  • @finerlance6732
    @finerlance6732 Рік тому +2

    i've always thought with Army tokens that you should've been able to put the +1+1 counters on either an existing token or create a new token to put the counters on. choosing to build a tall OR go wide with your army would've made much more sense for the flavor

  • @TeaHauss
    @TeaHauss Рік тому +7

    Guided Passage is severely underrated. If you play with new people, they get to see your cool deck and make interesting deals. If you play with friends, they already know every card in your deck after a few games, so no downside. You are guaranteed a land drop, and two cards that advance your game plan. If they are shortsighted, they'll give you every "bad" card in your deck. If they are smart, they'll let you pay mana to get rid of something that hurts both of you.

    • @Jrizzle7426
      @Jrizzle7426 4 місяці тому

      I always thought it was a solid card as well. It draws 3 cards at worst and it's guaranteed to have 2 cards that are playable. They don't always have to be ramp pieces or "bad" cards if your deck is built with it in mind.

  • @ShadWickBrand
    @ShadWickBrand Рік тому +33

    Tomer's new lighting is doing him so many favours haha. Looks good!
    Edit: If this game has taught me anything, it's that loading up on protection spells for Aragorn and making sure you have the mana up for them is incredibly important.

    • @isaacsantos6200
      @isaacsantos6200 Рік тому +1

      A lesson for *every* deck that relies on its commander

  • @sjdhrjrjejdhdhsh
    @sjdhrjrjejdhdhsh Рік тому +4

    Should be pointed out that Sauron also didn't return to crim's hand like it should've and it also didn't go back on top of his library like it should have. Considering the end results that's pretty good.

  • @mrwittwer
    @mrwittwer Рік тому +34

    Watching Tomer get deaded on sight while presenting no threat is pretty lame to watch

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 Рік тому +7

      Yep it's honestly why I was glad when Crim was gone actual games happen when you don't have 2 players at war every game, Richard sitting there watching until he wins and Seth tagging in against Tomer 60% of the time.

    • @kurowasanabe
      @kurowasanabe Рік тому +6

      It's because Crim cries every time he gets targeted and will try to talk them out of them every single time. As soon as he gets attacked or targeted you can skip 3 minutes ahead because it's just "no why are you targeting me please don't I'll be your friend look at the others they have a forest I'm not the threat" until they relent.

    • @adamkoudsi535
      @adamkoudsi535 Рік тому

      Idk I thought it was funny

  • @danielscully449
    @danielscully449 Рік тому +21

    Soooo revenge week next week? I really want to see tomers deck do... something. It seemed so cool

  • @TheSpunYarn
    @TheSpunYarn Рік тому +2

    I'm listening to this at work and when Traverse the Outlands brought up the ole basic land debate I said "the proof is in the pudding" literally 5 seconds before Tomer did lol

  • @AlbertShizznipple671
    @AlbertShizznipple671 Рік тому +1

    Really liking the new editing style of late. Good switch up guys, more effort and energy into the intros, great production and content guys!

  • @LionWithShades
    @LionWithShades Рік тому +4

    “There is a divisive denial in Dovin’s Doritos.”
    -Crim 2023

  • @callumreilly9107
    @callumreilly9107 Рік тому +2

    Them arguing over guided passage being good/bad was so funny. Loved Richard going "if there are cards you don't want then don't put them in your deck". I agree tbh, it's essentially 3 mana draw 3 with good filtering.

  • @dougfile6644
    @dougfile6644 Рік тому +11

    Can anyone link me to a Commander Clash where they don't team up on Tomer for no reason, and he actually gets to take part in the game for a change?

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS Рік тому +7

      Taking into account that you put "Commander Clash" and "They don't team up on Tomer for no reason" in the same sentence, I don't think that exists. ;)

    • @abisadeonasanwo2789
      @abisadeonasanwo2789 Рік тому +3

      I also feel these guys tend to be dicks to Tomer. He really suffers for 3 hours for their entertainment

    • @darkflame9410
      @darkflame9410 Рік тому +2

      @@abisadeonasanwo2789 A bit. Some of it is definitely playued up for "laughs"
      That being said, in my local community we've had a few folks with similar attitudes / playstyles (one really kinda similar to Crim) whom we had to _kindly_ explain they either needed to change their behavior... or they were no longer welcome to game with us.

    • @SP-ik6cc
      @SP-ik6cc Рік тому +1

      There is no bad behavior or bad etiquette here anywhere. Sometimes things dont line up and the timing is not on your side, especially in a 4 player game. Tomer is not really being targeted personally or hated on, y‘all are crazy if you think that.
      You also cant always wait until someone is a clear threat on board until you go after them, but have to use the window of opportunity to improve your chances.
      In the end these are adults hanging out and playing a game - if there would be a big underlying issue, I’m sure they would be able to resolve it

  • @gibbysg8143
    @gibbysg8143 Рік тому +21

    Tomer’s salt off the charts 😂 rightfully so but still funny!!!

  • @Lyr00
    @Lyr00 Рік тому +5

    This is a round of commander without the commanders.
    Seeing this I’m happy my table doesn’t play that much removal

  • @MTGJanktown
    @MTGJanktown Рік тому +5

    Awesome game! But dang that was a lot of wipes 😅 Sauron is definitely the pre-game archenemy though. Such a strong Commander even if you choose to build around his jankiest mode (amass)

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti Рік тому +3

    I loved this episode. I hope next one is another 3 hours LotR themed video, just so we can have a trilogy lol

  • @boose-clips1079
    @boose-clips1079 Рік тому +10

    I have been looking for Tom gameplay everywhere! Super pleased with this

  • @tomfhaines
    @tomfhaines Рік тому +2

    24:05 I don't think an edict would have helped, because whenever you cast a spell, Crim would get to amass, and have an army to sacrifice instead.

  • @travisbrandt8663
    @travisbrandt8663 Рік тому +2

    “On this week’s episode of Dies To Removal” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @dawsonnunn2445
    @dawsonnunn2445 Рік тому +14

    It's so hard watching these when it seems like Seth is committed to making sure Crim wins

  • @ashsattva
    @ashsattva Рік тому +19

    Spoiler:
    What happened to Tomer this game is literally why I am so afraid of playing decks heavily built around having my commander out. Because some games I have a really hard time getting to untap with them.

  • @papaUrabrask
    @papaUrabrask Рік тому +2

    Man, here's hoping one day the Tom n Jerry style antics will stop. It's always the exact same game - Crim and Seth desperately trying to relentlessly dismantle Tomer while he's so far from being the threat.

  • @davidg694
    @davidg694 Рік тому +3

    Next time everyone has to play a budget list except Tomer.

  • @dolalmoth
    @dolalmoth Рік тому +3

    Editor's working overtime on this one with all the weird MTGO quirks and obscure rulings

  • @darkflame9410
    @darkflame9410 Рік тому +3

    Maybe the rule for next time should be instead of youtube choosing Tomer's deck, youtube chooses Crim's (and we absolutely do not let him play any form of control at all (that includes hatebars))
    Edit: also, maybe just as a suggestion for house rules, maybe limit everyone to only 1-2 wraths. Precons only usually include that amount, because any more and you get games like this with back to back to back wraths.

  • @poli6570
    @poli6570 Рік тому +1

    Rip Sweetgum Recluse. Someday people will realize it can put counters on EACH creature that entered the battlefield that turn. 😔

  • @lberghaus
    @lberghaus Рік тому +3

    At a certain point it should be better to just let the commander go to a graveyard and retrieve it with eternal witness and play it for a normal cost.

  • @T_Peazy
    @T_Peazy Рік тому +2

    Tarantula venom isn't harmful to humans unless you're allergic. Like a bee sting.

  • @FidoPhilanthropist
    @FidoPhilanthropist Рік тому +11

    I love politics in EDH, I really do, but the sheer number of words that come out of Crim's mouth painting everyone and everything else as an immediate problem that must be answered is exhausting. And as Tomer is often the target, since he is the only one that isn't taken in by it regularly... doesn't seem like a super enjoyable experience.

    • @TheNotshauna
      @TheNotshauna Рік тому

      Yeah this game has had some dreadful threat assessment, Crim was pretty clearly in the lead for about 90% of the game and yet no one really wanted to interact with him. That and the never ending wraths results in a game that drags out for so long where every player is limping along.

  • @evan_j_peterson
    @evan_j_peterson Рік тому +1

    At 2:02:00, sweetgum recluse lets you put 3 counters on any number of creatures that entered the battlefield that turn. Seth could have put Counters on both Fynn and the spider.

    • @marcopolo1020
      @marcopolo1020 Рік тому +2

      Yeah Seth missed it a few times. He was real sure it was 1 creature even when Richard asked about it targeting multiple creatures. 😩

  • @AyeAyeCapitan
    @AyeAyeCapitan Рік тому +1

    Seth: Tomer can we be friends
    Tomer : Sure,- ok now i ramp 9
    Seth: Murder

  • @ben_clifford
    @ben_clifford Рік тому

    1:46:45 Shelodred won't be around to put her triggers on the stack. That happens for 2 reasons:
    1. Card text is executed in the order written. The creatures are destroyed before the cards are drawn.
    2. When a creature is "destroyed," it's moved from the battlefield to the graveyard (ie, this results in a zone change) immediately. Notably, this isn't like lethal damage, which waits for state-based actions. It just happens.

  • @TwiztidHeir
    @TwiztidHeir Рік тому +2

    Friends don't let friends ramp.
    Also, Sweetgum is any number of targets each get +3/+3.
    Sauron as Popo from DBZA. The one true dark lord.

  • @xxbehemothxx69
    @xxbehemothxx69 Рік тому +1

    I was laughing my ass off when they chirped Richard about not playing swords. And a swords wouldve actually saved him from the sheoldred at the end lmao

  • @forloveofthepage2361
    @forloveofthepage2361 Рік тому +2

    I like how Richard's intro is his name and deck and that's all.

  • @peterp799
    @peterp799 Рік тому +2

    i basically play the sauron deck but with saruman as the commander . is very fun and i didnt expect it

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Рік тому +3

    How good is Sauron now seth and Richard?

  • @thekinginblack4101
    @thekinginblack4101 9 місяців тому

    Crim is like a kid in a store and tomer is the parent
    Tomer: why can't you behave!
    Crim: *screams as he plays second sheoldred*

  • @ConManAU
    @ConManAU Рік тому +1

    If Seth had managed to make Aragorn into Food, the token would have been legendary and so could be sacrificed to pay Sauron’s ward cost.

  • @Nathanael_Forlorn
    @Nathanael_Forlorn Рік тому +1

    28:41
    No.
    Richard and seth rated the Dark Lord as B, while crim and (absent) tomer rated it S, I'm pretty sure.
    There were Editor rant notes for the next 5 cards on how seth and Richard could possibly rate something else higher a card later.
    And yes, B is not respecting it.

  • @thegeardude
    @thegeardude Рік тому +2

    Crim:Hey Seth can you not kill my creature this turn?
    Seth:Sure!
    *crim plays shelodred*
    Seth:Tomer we’re friends right?
    Tomer:Sure Seth!
    *Seth kills his commander*
    Will kill Tomers commander so many times but wouldnt take out Shelodred😢 which would’ve been amazing for him 😭
    Yall got to leave that man alone 😂

  • @zemineriver8043
    @zemineriver8043 Рік тому +1

    Do they not post the deck lists? I wanted to try Tomer's deck so I could see it do something

    • @Niuttuc
      @Niuttuc Рік тому +1

      The decklists are in the article linked at the top of the description, as always.

    • @zemineriver8043
      @zemineriver8043 Рік тому +1

      @@Niuttuc oh thanks I was looking for them in thw description

  • @renato6665
    @renato6665 Рік тому +4

    yay another seth+crim vs the table

    • @shinobu-39
      @shinobu-39 Рік тому +1

      They didn't really team up though. It was all just talk. There was that thing about not doing anything to what Crim summons(Sheoldred) but it wasn't really a factor because it got removed immediately.

  • @mrsilverbutton7786
    @mrsilverbutton7786 Рік тому +1

    The LOTR length continues! Great games, folks! I can't wait for budget - and at $25 to boot, I might just brew my own list as if I were a guest

  • @matustrophic
    @matustrophic Рік тому +1

    So glad my playgroup uses threat assessment instead of pettiness to determine targets

  • @andrewtaylor5883
    @andrewtaylor5883 Рік тому +1

    Don't feel like checking to see if it has been commented but...
    Sweetgum Recluse give 3 +1/+1 counters and ANY number of creatures (not just yours) that entered this turn. It's a hella fun card that can be political/offensive/defensive ! Love it !

  • @jackpabich763
    @jackpabich763 Рік тому +1

    What happened to Tomer's turn around 1:18:52? Seems like it was cut out for some reason

    • @Niuttuc
      @Niuttuc Рік тому +7

      Yeah, this episode was a bit aggressively cut to avoid being another 3h+ video (the game definitely was), and on his turn he just drew and played a tapland

  • @HORSEMASTER-ud6sp
    @HORSEMASTER-ud6sp Рік тому +1

    crim saying "it asked me Top or Bottom and i PROUDLY smashed top" sent me

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 Рік тому +4

    Vindication for Sauron

  • @ArvoWOW
    @ArvoWOW Рік тому +1

    Can’t help but feel that some people underrated Sauron in the g-z video :P

  • @nCedric1
    @nCedric1 Рік тому

    I wish I could find a group like you guys, Tomer. My store basically shadow banned me bc "I wiped too much", yet they run a SINGLE SWORDS in their entire deck as interaction.

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents Рік тому +2

    As someone who loves spiders in commander and has a bit of knowledge about spiders, it bugs me to see Seth play this deck tbh 🙃
    (Even if spiders aren't considered bugs, lol)

  • @treysmith4823
    @treysmith4823 Рік тому +5

    Another week of seth hard targeting tomer and letting crim win

  • @baragon023
    @baragon023 Рік тому +4

    Feel like the mispronounciations are intentional..

    • @christianpena7748
      @christianpena7748 Рік тому +1

      I actually couldn’t finish one of the Goldfish podcasts bc Seth kept calling Aragorn “Argon/Aragon” and I was just over it. When he mispronounced Rivendell, I almost stopped watching this game 😭

    • @adamkhan1687
      @adamkhan1687 Рік тому

      Mispronouncing fantasy names with your friends is fun, only a small subsection of genre fans take it so seriously and that should not be the norm IMO. This stuff is supposed to be fun.

  • @ishtarsdonut4489
    @ishtarsdonut4489 Рік тому +4

    Let's go, been excited to see shelob in action

  • @totallyrealname6376
    @totallyrealname6376 9 місяців тому

    I was so confused why everyones Aragorn deck was filled with random charms but now it all makes so much sense

  • @brandonberger89
    @brandonberger89 Рік тому

    I’m really liking my legendary, multicolored, human tribal, Aragorn deck. Also enjoying all the LOTR cards that gives me infinite combos in a Ratadrabik deck thanks to “The ring tempts you” mechanic

  • @damnjekyll
    @damnjekyll 10 місяців тому +1

    Having a 6/9 Sweetgum 👁️👄👁️ *achievement unlocked*

  • @echoesvayne9790
    @echoesvayne9790 10 місяців тому

    would an edict spell even get sauron? wouldn't the cast trigger of amass make a token before thr spell resolved?

  • @charlesrozier3547
    @charlesrozier3547 Рік тому +1

    They did say Crim's commander was only a be level commander

  • @Misssmetoo
    @Misssmetoo Рік тому +2

    Seth not knowing sweetgum recluse puts 3 counters on any number of creatures 😢

    • @FidoPhilanthropist
      @FidoPhilanthropist Рік тому +1

      Then correcting Richard, who knows the correct way it functions.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish Рік тому +2

      @@FidoPhilanthropist My theory is if you are going to be wrong you have to be confidently wrong ;)

  • @MacFlurry13
    @MacFlurry13 Рік тому +6

    This was just bully Tomer week 😂 stay strong Tomer! 💪🏼

  • @chadcharest9891
    @chadcharest9891 Рік тому +2

    Guided Passage, at it's worst, is draw the three worst cards in your deck. If your deck is good, that's good. At it's best, you can use politics to get sweet stuff.

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS Рік тому +2

      Not necessarily. It's not "draw the worst 3 cards", it's "draw the 3 least useful cards for the situation", which can be pretty bad. But it certainly isn't always bad.

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 Рік тому

      The effect is worse than draw 3 and reveals your entire deck to the table.

  • @ryanwesneski5359
    @ryanwesneski5359 Рік тому +1

    Sagas are pretty meh but I also question the ones Richard decided to include in his deck. I built tom for brawl and still didn't have to stoop as low as some of those he was running.

  • @frankclosser3901
    @frankclosser3901 Рік тому

    So, I know they aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I love long Grindy games like this. I'm super happy to see a set that pushes a little bit of battlecruiser magic.

  • @BeardedHeroThe
    @BeardedHeroThe 10 місяців тому

    This really just goes to show that board wipes aren't fun. If a board wipe doesn't actively get you closer to a win then it's not cool. Bringing everyone's board states "closer" together isn't getting you closer to a dub, it just brings you further from a loss.

  • @JulioDRai
    @JulioDRai Рік тому +1

    2:03:56 did Crim draw Otawara and decided not to use it so Seth could have some fun? Kudos to him if so.

    • @IQuarent
      @IQuarent Рік тому

      Otawara requires 4 mana to use. Crim was 1 short.

    • @JulioDRai
      @JulioDRai Рік тому

      ​@@IQuarentOh good catch.

  • @MrMartinSchou
    @MrMartinSchou 8 місяців тому

    With the Tom Bombadil deck, maybe you should be playing all the praetor sagas?

  • @ironpage
    @ironpage Рік тому +4

    Crim is hopefully going to show Richard and Seth that rating Sauron as a B was blasphemous.

  • @AielWolf
    @AielWolf Рік тому

    Friendly reminder, there are 2 A's and 2 R's in his name. The last True King is, in fact, not a noble gas

  • @Chris-yb8bg
    @Chris-yb8bg Рік тому

    I love how Seth doesnt understand sweet gum recluse and then even says its trigger wrong. Its for any number of creatures that entered that turn Seth lol.

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Рік тому +4

    Tomer was getting dunked on for no reason this game lol

    • @shinobu-39
      @shinobu-39 Рік тому +1

      Aside from that first fight spell, almost everything else was incidental. I felt so bad but it was also hilarious to see everyone trying to recast their 14 mana commander. XD

  • @danieloconnell2731
    @danieloconnell2731 Рік тому +1

    Edicts can't kill the dark lord unless it's a mass edict. He amasses to protect from single edicts.

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS Рік тому

      Or a non-token edict.

    • @tonysmith9905
      @tonysmith9905 Рік тому

      @@RasmusVJS Or highest power/cmc edict. Lots of edicts will kill Sauron.

  • @imaginarymatter
    @imaginarymatter Рік тому +7

    Guided Passage is my favorite card that I don't play. An unconditional three cards for three is always good even ignoring the potential political plays. Unfortunately, the card is a pod full of people unfamiliar with your deck takes like 5-10 minutes to resolve so I think it's generally pretty poor for keeping the playtime down.

  • @etten4536
    @etten4536 Рік тому +1

    Does anybody remember the first episode clash on was implemented?

  • @fograwtohb
    @fograwtohb Рік тому

    “Well, punished for not reading.” -Crim 2023

  • @PulledPurk
    @PulledPurk 4 місяці тому

    If it bites you, its venomous
    If you bite it, its poisonous

  • @mosesdaugird6874
    @mosesdaugird6874 Місяць тому

    For richards deck i wonder if 3 plains and 1 forest would be better because 1 of his tutors requires plains and the ither just generically basics

  • @callumreilly9107
    @callumreilly9107 Рік тому

    If Tomer had played Katilda before traverse the outlands, he would've protected himself from his spell doing nothing