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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Рік тому +266

    To think that it would be a Word Bearer out of all Legions to become BFFs with the Custodes.
    Just goes to show just special Argel was... shame how it ended though aye
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    • @obuniaaron3700
      @obuniaaron3700 Рік тому +1

      I ain't late

    • @TravelerZ24
      @TravelerZ24 Рік тому +1

      Kratos vs 40k would be a good way to catch the remaining hype for God of War Ragnarok

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Рік тому

      why do i get the feeling that a story about a chaos marine that knows that hes wrong and kinda actas as anti villain whenever he feels like it might seeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllll?

    • @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan
      @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan Рік тому

      Just letting you know bro that I keep unsubscribing from your channel without me doing it, dunno what is going on mate, anyway keep up the good work you kangaroo molester or I will meet you in Tanzania for a battle to the death with the only weapons allowed will be trained koalas like Pokémon meets a snuff movie

    • @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan
      @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan Рік тому +1

      Meant Tasmania

  • @kelleren4840
    @kelleren4840 Рік тому +447

    Custodians: "Wait... so you're telling us...a platoon of demi-god super-soldiers of herculean power AND one of our custodians got overwhelmed by... a local force of planetary tribesmen? And you lost 90% of the expeditionary force....?"
    Word Bearers: "Thaaaaat's what I'm telling you."
    Custodians: "Absolutely reasonable. No further explanation necessary!"

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Рік тому +92

      "You think we are stupid? You all will be purged"
      Argel Tal: "He aint lying bro"
      "Oh ok Understandable"

    • @VampireNewl
      @VampireNewl Рік тому +31

      "uhhh, the Custodies tripped and fell down some stairs"

    • @nopejhonson958
      @nopejhonson958 Рік тому

      @@VampireNewl damn again... too much body oil and not enough power armor... ua-cam.com/video/a3k8g5oX97E/v-deo.html

    • @OccultistResearcher
      @OccultistResearcher 11 місяців тому +5

      @@VampireNewl fair nuff

    • @trolldrool
      @trolldrool 9 місяців тому +5

      Custodians: "I always thought that guy was too weak to be one of us."

  • @andrewhirschi1026
    @andrewhirschi1026 Рік тому +521

    “We’re definitely on the wrong side kharne” kharne replied with, “how can you say that?”
    “Because both sides are wrong”
    When argel tal said this in betrayer he might’ve become my favorite character in 40K

  • @NP3GA
    @NP3GA Рік тому +1583

    Day thirty nine of asking majorkill to compare Abaddon and Archaeon

  • @Iron_Lord_Akerix
    @Iron_Lord_Akerix Рік тому +716

    I love the lore behind Argel Tal
    He's a great space marine and it's sad how he was betrayed by Erebus that god damn dick head ruins everything

    • @xsjado_anon
      @xsjado_anon Рік тому +46

      Poor guy just wanted to save his very angry friend :(

    • @TheBreaker153
      @TheBreaker153 Рік тому

      “Great space marine” complicit in the greatest act of betrayal and bloodshed. Kills fellow space marines. Betrays his oath. Fuck Erebus but I’m glad he killed that demon fuck

    • @Mountaineerfreak75
      @Mountaineerfreak75 Рік тому +27

      If there's a punch bowl anywhere in the galaxy, Erebus is the turd floating in it.

    • @littleaqua32
      @littleaqua32 Рік тому +25

      17:12
      Kharn pulling behind Erebus ready to commit unspeakable violence upon Erebus was hilarious tho

    • @bluedog843
      @bluedog843 Рік тому +19

      Khárn and Erebus’ duel was so fucking good. Especially how even the other World Eaters were shocked at how much he changed after Argel Tal’s death. It’s genuinely sad because it was Argel Tal who would keep Khárn as focused as possible and as human as a traitor World Eater can be. Erebus genuinely ruins everything.

  • @lalas3590
    @lalas3590 Рік тому +184

    Argel Tal also knew Sevatar and they mutually respected each other.
    Before the Dropsite Massacre Argel's speech inspired Sevatar to shout "Death to the False Emperor" which became the traitor's motto.
    However during the Dropsite Massacre, Sevatar saw Argel Tal's demon form and was disgusted.
    When the battle ended Argel wanted to pay respect to Sevatar by shaking hands and Sevatar spat at him.

    • @osirisshadoll4572
      @osirisshadoll4572 Рік тому +50

      Base Sevatar, the true son of Curze, the embody of Justice, Judgement and Punishment

    • @realwaifus5514
      @realwaifus5514 Рік тому +18

      Even more based when you remember that Astartes spit acid

  • @recklessmadman1597
    @recklessmadman1597 Рік тому +355

    Best boy out of Word Bearers. There is something special about that he knows and realises how f*cked up this galaxy and the gods, but still serving in the name of his primarch.
    And the fact that he felt regret after he killed the loyalists and Custodes makes him even more badass.

    • @bdiaz9112
      @bdiaz9112 Рік тому

      That gene coded loyalty is a total bitch. Remind me of how clones in sw are forced to undergo order 66

    • @AustralianBlueMage
      @AustralianBlueMage Рік тому +11

      For a daemon-possessed post-human, he's incredibly human.

    • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
      @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Рік тому +7

      i mean, it's good that Argel Tal at least feels bad about all the horrible shit he's doing, but he's still doing horrible shit and not once did his moral qualms actually stop him from doing horrible shit, so i don't think that's worth too much

    • @kiloklavdi1185
      @kiloklavdi1185 Рік тому

      ​@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 That can be said to a lot of people in 40k

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov 9 місяців тому +3

      Somehow, adding a daemon to a genetic-altered bioweapon IMPROVED empathy. Go figure.

  • @blakemcilwain2501
    @blakemcilwain2501 Рік тому +86

    I find it interesting that Erebus and Kor both note that they had to keep Lorgar away from Argel Tal because Lorgar already had doubts about spreading the truth about chaos and with Argel by his side he almost certainly wouldn't have done it.
    It's also funny that of the three Argel was the only one Lorgar actually liked and Lorgar had sent Erebus and Kor to Calth to die.
    Hell even in 40k some word bearers hate Erebus for striking "down the legion's brightest star"

    • @LaughingJokerProd
      @LaughingJokerProd Рік тому

      Imperium: Fuck Erebus
      Chaos: Fuck Erebus

    • @AdeptKing
      @AdeptKing 8 місяців тому +4

      Really hammers home how messed up he is if that bunch of lunatics hate him for killing Argel Tal.

  • @silversurfer8818
    @silversurfer8818 Рік тому +317

    (Excerpt: The First Heretic) Vendatha the awesome Custodian!
    Lorgar was at ease, his muscles loose. He actually expected his offer of truce to hold some weight, and that lapse in judgement was enough for Vendatha to take the chance. He pulled the haft-trigger, and his spear’s underslung bolter cracked off a stream of rounds on full-auto.
    Argel Tal saw it coming. The swords of red iron smashed the first three bolts aside, their power fields strong enough to detonate the shells as they streaked towards the primarch’s heart. The explosions threw the captain to the ground, his grey armour scraping along the stone with the shriek of offended ceramite.
    Vendatha was already in motion. The golden warrior leapt at the primarch, guardian spear spinning in his fists, an oath to the Emperor on his lips. Four Word Bearers blocked his path, and those four Word Bearers had to die.
    Rikus was the first to fall. The Custodian’s blade crunched into the soft, jointed armour at the Chaplain’s throat, punching from the back of his neck. Tsar Quorel died next, decapitated with a buzzing sweep of the energised blade, dead before he’d pulled his trigger.
    Deumos managed to fire a stream of bolt shells, none of which connected. Vendatha weaved left, thudded the base of his spear into the Chapter Master’s bolter, knocking it aside, and followed with a cutting swing that sheared both the Word Bearer’s hands from his body, severing them at the forearms. Deumos had a scarce moment to draw in a stunned gasp before the spear sliced again, this time cleaving through his collarbone and spine, ripping his head free. Vendatha span the blade in his hands, letting it come to rest with the tip and gun barrel aimed at Lorgar’s heart again. Behind the Custodian, the bodies crashed to the ground in slow succession.
    Three seconds had passed.

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Рік тому +69

      "We'll avoid these guys if we become demons" -Lorgar

    • @TheSonOfDumb
      @TheSonOfDumb Рік тому +60

      Such power. To humans, Chaos and Imperial alike, transhumans such as space marines, custodes, and even mechanicum adepts are viewed with awe, adoration and respect. But the Eldar see them as absolute abominations. Who would transform himself into a monster? Interesting perspective.
      The Emperor made weapons of mass destruction in the shape of men, and with their hands they wrought mankind's doom.

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Рік тому +3

      You mess the part when he tal throat the weapon at the custodian face

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Рік тому +1

      @@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 it's called a betrayal

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Рік тому

      @@AbhisarRawat no it was in first heretic book that seen he was talking about

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +38

    *Yet another fantastic episode of "Erebus ruins everything!"*

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 Рік тому +323

    Getting a video about how each of the pre-heresy primarchs would react to being in Guillimans situation would be pretty cool ngl seeing their different ruling styles would be great

    • @ZajiSabb
      @ZajiSabb Рік тому +13

      Man we were asking that for so long...
      Aaaaaa

    • @goldxahn5247
      @goldxahn5247 Рік тому +9

      Not the first time you ask I think. Best of luck!

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 Рік тому +8

      @@goldxahn5247 I've been asking for weeks

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 Рік тому +7

      I started from the 400,000 subscriber video

    • @calebtheholyman545
      @calebtheholyman545 Рік тому +7

      Try changing up the wording and adding a days posted counter

  • @Mathijsvand
    @Mathijsvand Рік тому +206

    I actually thought Argel Tal was going to betray the Word Bearers in the end. It is very obvious that he questioned almost everything about the Heresy and that he only ended up serving because of Lorgar, all the time questioning his loyalty to him, as he saw Lorgar descend deeper and deeper into madness.

    • @brianaguila6925
      @brianaguila6925 Рік тому +29

      And now I see why Malcador chose loyalist astartes from traitor legions for his knights errants. Their loyalty to the emperor was THAT strong even if they're wired to be loyal to their primarchs .

    • @rayhanmustakim7073
      @rayhanmustakim7073 Рік тому +9

      Imagine Argel Tal becoming one of the Knight Errants and eventually one of founders of Grey Knights.

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 Рік тому +4

      @@rayhanmustakim7073 unlikely. But i have a interesting idea
      My headcanon is that had argal kill erebus with raums advice,argal would resolve himself to find kharn and do something involving finding a way out of the bullshit going on
      My idea is that if this happened,argal and kharn would rally those astartes or others not desiring to help either and create there own mini faction to protect

    • @rayhanmustakim7073
      @rayhanmustakim7073 Рік тому +3

      @@lolbots686 Maybe making their own Blackshields right?

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 Рік тому +1

      @@rayhanmustakim7073 possibly. Tbh itd be quite the interesting turnout that argal through raum figures out how to purify daemons partially,being one of the few beings able to calm the warp or parts of it

  • @williamredmond8128
    @williamredmond8128 Рік тому +36

    When Lorgar asked Kharn if he wanted to know who killed Argel Tal and Kharn going beast mode is one of the best scenes ever in a HH book.

    • @certifiedsexhaver8400
      @certifiedsexhaver8400 Рік тому

      Which book? I’m tryna read ab Erebus getting his cheeks split asunder

    • @williamredmond8128
      @williamredmond8128 Рік тому +2

      @@certifiedsexhaver8400 Book 24 Betrayer, by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. I would read First Heretic and Aurelian first if you haven't, they are great and give great background.

    • @alma_h2410
      @alma_h2410 Рік тому +1

      What connection did the Khan had with Argel Tal?

    • @alma_h2410
      @alma_h2410 Рік тому +1

      Or did you mispelled Kharn?

    • @williamredmond8128
      @williamredmond8128 Рік тому +1

      @@alma_h2410 I did misspelled Kharn.

  • @znalniaskas
    @znalniaskas Рік тому +49

    Possessed Argel was bigger than a Primarch and dual wielded Custodes weapons. Now imagine that guy with the blessing of the 4 chaos gods and a Primarch weapon as the chad version of the warmaster of chaos, probaby actual Primarch-tier.
    PS: Argel Tal's FW mini is just badass.

    • @ABCefgy
      @ABCefgy Рік тому +2

      Stop the cap

    • @bmmac6797
      @bmmac6797 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ABCefgy its not that far off, dude was still getting more badass AND more rebellious

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth Рік тому +79

    Lorgar charging in to save his sons when he knew for a fact he would not win against Corax is one of the reasons he is my favorite Primarch.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Рік тому +16

      Perturabo is my favorite traitor primarch because of his competence.

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Рік тому +17

      Lorgars character journey in the First Heretic was exceptional

    • @zacharyhernandez1483
      @zacharyhernandez1483 Рік тому +2

      @@henrypaleveda7760 and the fact he actually had a reason to be angry... iron within, iron without.... but God dammit give me my dues

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Рік тому +4

      @@zacharyhernandez1483 Yeah.it's unfortunate how badlyu he misread Ferrus saying that he didn't understand. That was Ferrus trying to offer sympathy and saying that he didn't know, I love how autistic the primarchs can be at times. yes i like the black templars too.

  • @SomeGuy-gc8zs
    @SomeGuy-gc8zs Рік тому +130

    In a way, it's fitting that a man who was half daemon was one of the most human Space Marines; after all, daemons are tiny fragments of the Chaos Gods, and Chaos Gods are, at this point, mostly fueled by humanity's psychic gestalt. In the end, a daemon is a little fragment of exactly the thinga that make us human.

    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 Рік тому +4

      Like nuclear isotopes made banana

    • @Ty-wz2dq
      @Ty-wz2dq Рік тому

      I like your profile picture

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt Рік тому +8

      Someone call an Inquisitor to visit this person immediately. We can't have this kind of heresy spread

    • @fantasyfan10
      @fantasyfan10 Рік тому

      You mean wanting total dominion wherever it is that we go? Lol

  • @adedimberline
    @adedimberline Рік тому +28

    Tal, Torgaddon, Aximand, Tarvitz, Loken, all of those early Heresy characters are spot on.

  • @Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen
    @Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen Рік тому +61

    The most interesting revelation from Argel’s story is that the reason it is called The Imperial Truth is that it is not reality, it is the reality The Emperor seeks to create, although he claims it is reality.
    The Wordbearers, per their name, see themselves as bearing the weight of the Actual reality of the cosmos for better or worse, and therefore see the emperor, not as a visionary, but as a liar, ignoring the fact that this reality can be changed.

    • @Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen
      @Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen Рік тому +18

      If you ever read a chaos character refer to the emperor as a liar, this is the lie they are referring to, and the unspoken debate that is occurring: should the nature of the universe be accepted, or should we seek to change the entire universe to align with our beliefs?
      As a result of this debate Lorgar is both the most and least logical character is 40k, acting in accordance to the facts, but ignoring their context.

  • @edim108
    @edim108 Рік тому +40

    Imagine if every Chaos Space Marine was written as well as Argel Tal or Talos. Chaos would be a lot more interesting if that were the case.

    • @callumcochrane7759
      @callumcochrane7759 Рік тому +7

      Yeah but there's less money in spikey marines than goody two shoes so that ain't happening

    • @steffenronsch8881
      @steffenronsch8881 Рік тому +2

      Chaos has the best written characters. Normal spacemarines are the worst.

    • @bmmac6797
      @bmmac6797 5 місяців тому +1

      I think the chaos marines are more human than loyalists, and not from an edgy teen standpoint. They really see the truth, the loyalists for the most part are still completely blind. Think about 50% of traitor legion having to be purged and the perspective they would have, but knowing loyalists would just mow them down...

  • @ruffymon
    @ruffymon Рік тому +131

    Talos and Argel Tal are two great written Chaos Characters.
    I wished there were more

    • @Shawaeon
      @Shawaeon Рік тому +19

      ADB is a master of writing good bad guys.

    • @ruffymon
      @ruffymon Рік тому +5

      @@Shawaeon True

    • @bluedog843
      @bluedog843 Рік тому +5

      @@Shawaeon and that’s why he’s probably my favorite author. Ever. He manages to humanize the literal evil guys.

    • @chrissummerfeldt2618
      @chrissummerfeldt2618 Рік тому +6

      Khayon is also great. In the end I never would have thought I'd feel sorry for Uzas. Quite honestly all of first claw are written great.

    • @Iceisnice1
      @Iceisnice1 Рік тому +2

      While not technically chaos per se, Fabius Bile is amazing in his trilogy. Josh Reynolds does a lot to humanize him without taking away from the monster that he is.

  • @Pyre
    @Pyre Рік тому +15

    Huh. Never expected to find this point in 40k, but;
    Argel's life is one of the best possible *counters* to the phrase "If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be."

  • @seanjones2524
    @seanjones2524 Рік тому +19

    One of my favourite sad, relatable moments in the entire lore was when Argel spoke with Sevatar and how Sevatar responded.

  • @j4nk3n
    @j4nk3n Рік тому +33

    Argel tal being bros with kharn and having his respect tells you how much of a Chad argel is

  • @outdude
    @outdude Рік тому +10

    I swear, his self analysis about not knowing if his loyalty to Lorgar was genetic or genuine was so spot on. Based on his personality Argal was betrayed by himself, he wasn’t a bootlicker, that’s why he betrayed his friends (the custodians) for his father even though he didn’t like what his father was doing.

  • @Chaerea_Carmin-Slaanesh_Chosen

    Although all three seek to understand the universe, a scientist seeks to change reality, a priest, to align himself with it. A soldier seeks to understand which of the two to serve.

  • @alexanderimmortal4354
    @alexanderimmortal4354 Рік тому +53

    Even the Custodes liked him and trusted him and he killed them, man is an absolute bro ❤️✌️

  • @ProffessorYellow
    @ProffessorYellow Рік тому +14

    I feel they killed Argyl off cuz he has a lot of parallels with the White Scar's Khan. Such as dual wielding, Resistance mentally to manipulation, wisdom, pragmatic. They are extremely similar in different settings

  • @iwzdeta53
    @iwzdeta53 Рік тому +40

    Not gonna lie. The first heretic, great book love how they showed his humanity with the lady

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +6

    Argel Tal is the best Word Bearer character and proof that Erebus really does ruin everything

  • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
    @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Рік тому +30

    For his weapons he had the blades of iron, Lightning gauntlets, Guardian spear, and custodian sword.

  • @guardsmenedwin6213
    @guardsmenedwin6213 Рік тому +24

    Part two of Erda, or a short on her 1v4.
    I shall never stop requesting it

  • @mitchmitting102
    @mitchmitting102 Рік тому +13

    As much as I'd love to see Argal come back, I think a really good character arc for Kharn right now would be him deciding to take revenge on Erebus after all this time, gathering allies that also despise Erebus to kill the Word Bearer.
    Hell make it a massive plot twist as Kharn slowly regains more and more of his sanity until the climatic fight where upon killing Erebus, he becomes something like a mix of his old and khornite personalities, seeking to fight the best out there but doing so in a more honourable and strategic way then just kill main burn. Be pretty interesting and make Kharn a much more compelling character again. Hell it's not even that much of a stretch to think Khorne may put his avatar on this path, perhaps sick of Erebus shit and lack of honour as well as seeing it as a step towards making Kharn the ultimate warrior.

    • @dudemcfurgusson7179
      @dudemcfurgusson7179 Рік тому +6

      Erebus dying would make so many lore fans cheer, and the only people who wouldn't enjoy it have opinions that are wrong.

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Рік тому +1

      This would be amazing and make another Chaos Astartes amazing.
      We only have a few since we lost Talos lol

    • @mitchmitting102
      @mitchmitting102 Рік тому +4

      @@adrienwatson2179 Kharn is one of those Chaos Aligned characters that still has a lot of potential for the story and universe but is being shafted to suit a niche. Say Lucius, dude doesn't much room to grow or change as he was always an arrogant man that believed no one could best him, or Erebus who has had his heyday as the one responsible for the Horus Heresy and many parts within it, but since then has been more or less relegated to background character since he simply can't do what he used to with the same effect.
      Kharn is unique since he had a very distinct personality for a World Eater, and what with how his personal damnation happened, while his fighting prowess has certainly heightened, he is far from what you could consider the perfect warrior, which is the exact kind of thing Khorne would love to see. After all, sure, he was an amazing fighter, but there is bunch of other pre-heresy aspects to him that really set him apart from the regular World Eater that, in my mind, is why Khorne decided to choose him of all astartes. And what better way to improve his champion's capabilities now his devotion is assured then to have him claim his vengeance for the murder of his best friend which inevitably would require Kharn to make use of his more intrinsic personality traits?

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Рік тому +3

      @@mitchmitting102 Agreed on all accounts
      They wasted his potential for sure.
      Remember when he captured a Thousand Sons Marine on Prospero?
      That was an amazong scene as Kharn slowly tried to maintain his sanity

    • @mitchmitting102
      @mitchmitting102 Рік тому +3

      @@adrienwatson2179 Personally, I don't entirely mind the direction they took with Kharn, but rather the fact they have done nothing with it. Sure, being a mindless berserker is interesting for a little, but it's more the fact he has gone no where with it other than to be one of the best killers in 40K. In my eyes however, it does paint an excellent landscape for his later potential for thousands of years of killing all being to ensure his otherworldly skills in combat as well as his devotion to Khorne.
      That's why I hope something along these lines happens to make Kharn a player in 40k again. Between Magnus and the Thousand Sons getting up to shit again, the Plague Wars with the Death Guard and Fabius Bile continuing to do his thing, I feel like Khorne and the forces of Undivided (*cough cough* Alpha Legion and Iron Warriors *cough cough*) need a real spot light, and for Khorne? What better way then the Betrayer getting his vengeance for the betrayal of Argal and becoming a leading Khornite leader like he should be?

  • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
    @JoeSmith-sl9bq Рік тому +51

    Erabus is my favorite Chaos Astartes, he is the only one who isn’t a traitor but always worked for Chaos, and I admire that he went through all that training just to fuck with the Empire, he doesn’t care about army shit. And when he saw emps he thought “I want to dismember you like a bug” while everyone else pooped their pants

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 Рік тому +12

      Well the Emperor could probably fart and delete Erebus from existence if they fought

    • @FeatherResonance
      @FeatherResonance Рік тому +15

      @@paimonisfood4986 Erebus succeeded though what with the emperor being a Halloween decoration in the 41st millennium. A flaming sword isn't the only way to win a fight and the emperor would know that better than anybody since he schemes and lies about as much as tzeentch.

    • @kellerblair2952
      @kellerblair2952 Рік тому

      @@FeatherResonance When has the Emperor ever actually lied ?

    • @saucemandela
      @saucemandela Рік тому

      @@kellerblair2952 literally the imperial truth was a lie and it was practically the catalyst for all events during the horus heresy. If the emperor would have told the primarchs about chaos, they may have been able to combat it

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 Рік тому +1

      @@FeatherResonance With faith in the emperor slowly becoming an actual special ability for the Imperium I think it would not just his sword that wins battles. Also a lot of the lies and schemes made by the Emperor were in the end intended to work for humanity's favor unlike Tzeentch who just do it to further chaos's goals which is definitely not ideal for any human.

  • @karuptedninja2000
    @karuptedninja2000 Рік тому +21

    Argal is so awesome it almost makes me want to play horus heresy just to have him on the table top

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Рік тому +9

    As for the transformation and possession the 7 months in the Warp was actually 7 seconds which Lorgar told Argel tal in a confused look as he was listening to the confessions of what they had to do to survive

  • @JoshdaKnight
    @JoshdaKnight Рік тому +1

    Dude the Custodes who broke is vow of silence and used his last actions and words as a “fuck you” to a specific traitor is such a Chad.

  • @HanmaCaleb
    @HanmaCaleb Рік тому +12

    I hope they make a new book series where, maybe if Ghazghkull defeats Angron and a large amount of Khorne’s real space influence, Khârn can shake off some of his lucidity and go find Rum if he’s still around to try and get Argel back, and help him become the badass character he was before

    • @Ray-yv7kn
      @Ray-yv7kn Рік тому +1

      They say that Angron can't be banished. This can only mean that GW plans to use him as a punching bag lol.

    • @HanmaCaleb
      @HanmaCaleb Рік тому

      @@Ray-yv7kn well if Angron doesn’t die Khorne’s influence can still be weakened, also giving a justification for Angron’s promotion to plot device punching bag

    • @dukedevlan5457
      @dukedevlan5457 Рік тому +1

      Raum and argel tal was I believed completely fused with his daemon Raum so if he is still around so would argel it would be a cathartic experience seeing kharn Champion of khorne and argel more daemon then man at this point

  • @jonas639
    @jonas639 Рік тому +12

    I love this character. I picked the Word Bearers as my first army partialy because of him. But you forgot to mention how he dualwielded two Custodian Weapons.

  • @jaredunderwood978
    @jaredunderwood978 Рік тому +14

    I remember the Kharn and Argel bromance, it was a great read

  • @Ripotes
    @Ripotes Рік тому +10

    There's a short story in the Mark of Calth book that follows another member of the Gal Vorbak who goes rogue after 7 years of fighting underground. It's really interesting and worth checking out if you like Argel Tal. The First Heretic and that story convinced me that a spinoff game of Warhammer 40k: Space Marine where you play as a rogue Gal Vorbak who can temporarily go demon mode in combat and travel around through the warp trying to unravel its mysteries while occasionally dropping onto random planets in real space and slaughtering loyalists would be sick as fuck

  • @ragnarokivae6136
    @ragnarokivae6136 Рік тому +6

    Argel Tal is the reason I somehow like the word bearers. Thanks to him, I understand how the WB think and why they turned traitor. Sadly the other main characters of them are just boring villains. But argel Tal is so dope, he carry the whole legion

  • @ourcommonancestry6025
    @ourcommonancestry6025 Рік тому +2

    Best scene in Warhammer lore, at least top 10: Angron making fun of Argel-Tal and the word Bearers, then slapping Argel-Tal down when he got all butthurt about it. Telling ya, I was crying for days, especially cuz the audio book was so damn perfectly voiced acted.

  • @deion1564
    @deion1564 Рік тому +10

    First Heretic, Know no Fear and Betrayer are some of my favorite books in the Horus Heresy series. Also, Argel threw his chainsword at the Custodes.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Рік тому +21

    Whenever Argel Tal goes for a walk, he asked the Loyalists how's their health plan.
    Apparently it was great.

    • @renandronico4235
      @renandronico4235 11 місяців тому +1

      Great Hellsing abridged reference! Now I can't help but imagine Alucard in Warhammer. Would he excel or be easily destroyed?

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 11 місяців тому

      @@renandronico4235 In Fantasy, he can school the Vampires of Sylvania and even set things straight there or wipe them out.
      In 40k, he might have to work for the Radical Inquisitor who would be pragmatic to work with him and impress him enough that they retain their humanity when fighting monsters.

    • @redsledgeblu5234
      @redsledgeblu5234 20 днів тому

      Womp womp

  • @brickwall9781
    @brickwall9781 Рік тому +2

    Damn. Erebus really is the one that started the Horus Heresy. It should be called the Erebus Heresy

  • @kevinsmith9013
    @kevinsmith9013 Рік тому +1

    He remains forever honored and un-diddled!

  • @stuart9096
    @stuart9096 Рік тому +1

    breaking your vow of silence just to tell xaphen how much you hated him. glorious

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 Рік тому +5

    The thought of Argel lowering the gellar field because he wanted a 8 tit daemon gf is hilarious 7:40

  • @joshuakokkinias3054
    @joshuakokkinias3054 Рік тому +2

    Kharn, Argel Tal and Sevetar Jago are my favourite characters in 40k. Great vid hope you do a Sevetar video soon!

  • @mheekkim2901
    @mheekkim2901 Рік тому +5

    Never knew Sylvester Stallone was a Chaos Marine

  • @rheynilcalderon4246
    @rheynilcalderon4246 Рік тому +11

    Argel tal the warmaster we deserve

  • @springbreak2021
    @springbreak2021 Рік тому +3

    First 40k book I read, Argel tal is tragic but goated

  • @sond.lollipop8919
    @sond.lollipop8919 Рік тому +4

    I really do think that if both argul and Kharn could of gotten thr fuck away from their fathers early in the heresy both could of been redeemed and brought back to the loyalists

  • @anvilaberdeen1289
    @anvilaberdeen1289 Рік тому

    You be pumpin' them vids left and right, awesome. Carry on.

  • @thingsthatgobomb
    @thingsthatgobomb 10 місяців тому +3

    "I like you, don't come to Istvaan 3 tomorrow."

  • @Danterag5
    @Danterag5 Рік тому +1

    The first part of this story was an AMAZING book called The First Heretic. Everyone should read that novel it's so much fun.

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount Рік тому +1

    Erebus: kills argal
    Kharne: and i took that personally.

  • @yanntrokhymenko9775
    @yanntrokhymenko9775 Рік тому

    Yessir! Keep the longer videos coming every so often, but nah seriously you’re a fuckin legend

  • @brockstephens7961
    @brockstephens7961 Рік тому

    Majorkill gets a new sponsor and 9 out of 10 times I end up buying the product because it's actually useful! Thanks Majorkill

  • @beatsbydgreenie2338
    @beatsbydgreenie2338 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a video on blood bowl? It can be a call back to fantasy while being a more goofy and fun video

  • @Memelord4dayz
    @Memelord4dayz Рік тому

    MAJORBRO! Please do longer format videos along with the shorts if you can. I dig this shit

  • @leephilips5781
    @leephilips5781 Рік тому

    The First Heretic has to be my favourite book of the Horus Heresy Series.

  • @unstablefroggaming5232
    @unstablefroggaming5232 Рік тому

    This man makes videos as fast as I read the books! Keep up the grind!

  • @Shootsukiyama1527
    @Shootsukiyama1527 Рік тому +2

    A near 20 minute long Majorkill video!? Sign me the hell up

  • @Jagonath
    @Jagonath Рік тому +1

    The lore is amazing... and ironic. Word Bearers turned traitor, for worshipping the Emperor, yes. But they also foiled themselves in the attempt. Cyrene was Argel Tal's "confessor." But after Cyrene Valantion died and was resurrected by Argel Tal, she became a perpetual and a loyalist.
    If you read the book where Lorgar tries to kill Horus, Lorgar is led by a blind, masked woman. It's pretty clear this is none other than Cyrene, luring Lorgar into a fight he can't win, and taking the Word Bearers out of the very rebellion they started. Brilliant!

  • @dornfist3913
    @dornfist3913 Рік тому

    Great video @Majorkill! I am a loyalist through and through but I found Argel Tal's story very tragic indeed.

  • @zygo0
    @zygo0 Рік тому +3

    The more I learn about the Horus Heresy, the more I learn that the Emperor and the Custodes were actually really bad at running a crusade and an empire.

  • @Theking-sk1bz
    @Theking-sk1bz Рік тому +3

    Greetings majorkill finally finished the blood lord and gonna post it doubt I'll win but it'll be awesome for you too see it anyway 👍

  • @AltoStratusX1
    @AltoStratusX1 Рік тому

    LONG GASSSSSP
    INSANEO STYLE??
    What a man of culture you turned out to be Majorkill.

  • @v10l3t40
    @v10l3t40 Рік тому +8

    I find it weird you made this video, I'm currently reading The First Heretic so I've grown to like Argel Tal

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 Рік тому +1

      Maybe he's reading the HH. MK just put out a video on the fall of the Thousand Sons. 'A Thousand Sons' is just two books before 'The First Heretic'

  • @anlak1318
    @anlak1318 Рік тому +2

    Why can't we have more of that ?
    More non-one dimensional chaos characters ?
    Like, GW could sell more characters like that, so it would profitable.

  • @Firefighter3935
    @Firefighter3935 Рік тому

    I tried listening to a Majorkill playlist to fall asleep to at night but the “bow to me” at the end keeps waking me up.

  • @kodak5678
    @kodak5678 Рік тому +1

    awesome vid majorkill

  • @karvenman
    @karvenman Рік тому +2

    Seeing a video about how you would continue and end the rest of the ynnari books would be interesting

  • @zelossemac1970
    @zelossemac1970 Рік тому

    Loving the fake smile as he tries to look like that green slush was in any way satisfying

  • @Kaden_99
    @Kaden_99 Місяць тому

    "Being healthy is a vibe." Me being sick while watching Majorkill´s videos bcs of comfort :´(

  • @nonnyjones8217
    @nonnyjones8217 Рік тому +2

    Argel Tal looks like he should be the emperor of mankind!!

  • @richardhall1667
    @richardhall1667 Рік тому

    Been waiting for this

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Рік тому +2

    Cadia for 10k years an Imperial Bastion of Defiance, before that... Galaxy's Weirdest Strip Club.
    Also Obligatory asking Majorkill for a Mini of the late Old Man of Armageddon. Or Cowboy Ironstriders for the Skitarri Ranch.

  • @doominator4072
    @doominator4072 Рік тому +2

    I enjoyed this one, never knew a word bearer could be so interesting. Im curious to know what you’re thoughts on Fabius Bile is, as I see him in a similar situation as this dude.

  • @Ac-jf9gb
    @Ac-jf9gb Рік тому +6

    Best feat of each primarch

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 Рік тому

      The feet of each primarch.

    • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
      @JoeSmith-sl9bq Рік тому

      I think Magnus would have the best looking feet

    • @Ac-jf9gb
      @Ac-jf9gb Рік тому

      @@JoeSmith-sl9bq same plus this morning I finished building him his feet are a great

  • @caveychip7510
    @caveychip7510 Рік тому +1

    Major mini ideas
    A trazyn the infinite style thingo or an Argel tal proxy.
    Because 2 of warhammers greatest characters should not be trapped in citadel finecast and forge world resin

  • @lordInquisitor
    @lordInquisitor Рік тому

    My introduction into 40k was the book " the first heretic " saw it in the book store and wanted to try something new. this character holds a special place for me

  • @rivervalle9188
    @rivervalle9188 Рік тому

    You should do 5 or 10 well deserved fates of characters

  • @12345678907830
    @12345678907830 Рік тому +1

    did anyone else take one look at that art of regular argel and think "Yeah thats got henry cavill written all over it"

  • @myself2noone
    @myself2noone Рік тому +2

    A always found it amusing that you seem to hate chaos, and aren't what most people would find wholesome, and Weshammer is a teddy bear that seems to love them.

  • @DominicMaez
    @DominicMaez Рік тому +6

    To me it felt like argel was able to sway the demon to his side.

    • @evann5
      @evann5 Рік тому +4

      Didn't the daemon abandon Argel after Erebus left him to die? leaving Argel Tal to die a lonely death.

    • @DominicMaez
      @DominicMaez Рік тому +1

      @@evann5 good point.

  • @SlaveknightGale
    @SlaveknightGale Рік тому +1

    The scene with the custodien being sacrificed was fucking brutal. His face was a mess with one eye kinda working and looking around as he got impaled.

  • @minigree8468
    @minigree8468 Рік тому

    Artefacts/treasures of Vulkan update and speculation on what they could be would be pretty cool ngl.

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter Рік тому +1

    Love this story, and I love your video about it! Before this, I hated the Word Bearers and World Eaters; The First Heretic is some of the best storytelling in The Horus Heresy. Thanks!

  • @mahe7744
    @mahe7744 Рік тому

    Glad to see ur making World of Warcraft(2004) content again

  • @tommasocreatini2513
    @tommasocreatini2513 Рік тому +1

    just finished reading 'Betrayer' by Aaron Dembski so all this is really fresh for me... highly recommend for a read boys...

  • @scenczyk1429
    @scenczyk1429 Рік тому +1

    I REALLY enjoy Lucius plot armour. Nobody wins and does not gloat in whatever capacity.

  • @jayvhoncalma3458
    @jayvhoncalma3458 Рік тому

    0:43 also look at his armor drip like that makes it look like he's the Emperor's son (color scheme wise)

  • @kellerblair2952
    @kellerblair2952 Рік тому +3

    Can you do a video on how badly Kharn beat the breaks off Erebus.

  • @lolbitbot4791
    @lolbitbot4791 Рік тому

    i painted up one of the minis and im waiting for the day it appears, if it does

  • @Hereforthelols
    @Hereforthelols Рік тому +1

    Imagine an angrier than usual KHARN coming to beat ass😂😂

  • @jonathanturull8508
    @jonathanturull8508 Рік тому

    I'd like to see a compilation of Timmy compilation where majorkill tells Timmy no in every way.

  • @Kottekungen
    @Kottekungen Рік тому

    My fav line from the book,
    - Tal closed his eyes, Raum opend them.
    The first heretic is my fav book from the horus heresy

  • @kingarthur7051
    @kingarthur7051 Рік тому +2

    A new video, epic