RTX 4070 Ti SUPER vs RX 7900 XT - Test in 8 Games l Ray Tracing
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- RX 7900 XT 20GB vs RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB l 4K
Buy RTX 4070 Ti SUPER at newegg.com - bit.ly/3vNwtSK
Games :
Alan Wake 2 - 0:00
Alan Wake 2 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 0:58
Starfield - 1:51
Cyberpunk 2077 - 2:49 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 4:00
Forza Horizon 5 - 5:14 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 6:26 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 7:33
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora | DLSS\FSR - 8:44
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9:50 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
The Last of Us Part I - 10:53
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 - bit.ly/3Pn2xVx
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/3vNwtSK
RADEON RX 7900 XT 20GB - bit.ly/3W06ek8
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI - Ігри
Games :
Alan Wake 2 - 0:19
Alan Wake 2 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 1:16
Starfield - 2:10
Cyberpunk 2077 - 3:09 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Cyberpunk 2077 | RT, DLSS\FSR - 4:20
Forza Horizon 5 - 5:34 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 6:46 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Hogwarts Legacy | RT - 7:53
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora | DLSS\FSR - 9:03
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 10:09 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
The Last of Us Part I - 11:13
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 - bit.ly/3Pn2xVx
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/3vNwtSK
RADEON RX 7900 XT 20GB - bit.ly/3W06ek8
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
While all games bring 40-50fps, Forza makes sure to fuck up the competition with 120+ fps 😂
True it is greatly optimised even after having stunning graphics
@@hatserlgreatly optimized? Bro my RTX 3050 runs this at 20 fps in max settings in 1080p resolution
@@WololoWololo2 due to lack of VRAM
Bro bought Rtx 3050 without research 🤦♂️
@@WololoWololo2 3050 isn't meant for ultra 🤡🤡🤡🤡
I don’t get how we’re 3 generations in and Raytracing still tanks performance while giving a minor uplift in fidelity. I feel like it’ll be another 10 years at this point before it actually makes sense to use lol.
Yep thats what I've been saying. Forget ray tracing on affordable gpus for another 5 years. It wont be mainstream anytime soon
with that logic, play everything on low then, forget about high end gpu, buy cheap gpu instead, if money is ur ultimate concern
@@Cupapet93 how is it bad logic to trade off 30-50% of your fps for a minor uplift in fidelity. Going from low to high/utra is a big hit to FPS but it’s also a big improvement in visual quality.
Raytracing tanks performance for the sake of accurate shadows, reflections, and light rays when we already have pretty good tricks at making those seem accurate.
@@Cupapet93 Money alone isnt the issue; its fps value per buck that matters.
4090 is the only GPU that can truly handle RT, but even then you need DLSS3.5 full feature set to make it viable. Minor uplift is very subjective, in CP some scenes are two generations apart when Path Tracing is enabled, truly. And it runs 60-120fps, depending on DLSS settings and scenes. Personally, I'm opting for subtle RT effects and a locked 120fps using 4K DLSS Q, because that is what the 4090 does best. Path tracing is two full generations away, so perhaps a 6090 can do the job.
Hogwarts legacy on 7900xt using 15 gb vram and 21 gb ram is completely insane
A better phrasing would be, it allocates that much vram.
@@horvathr95 this is the first time i hear about this didn’t know that!
@@Mesh-9 yeah, when your system has more than enough ram or vram it allocates more of it so it can be accessed easier when needed, this can potentially speed things up
Alan Wake 2's optimisation most biggest shit ever
go try Ark Survival Ascended optimization hehe
They actually didn't scale down most of the textures, if you take a screenshot and have a close look.
Alan Wake is well optimised, but amd is to slow for Ray tracing, with three bounces.
well the it's the first game to use mesh shaders
Thanks i was waiting for this ❤
What drivers did you use for both cards? Also did one feel smoother than the other?
Based on the frametime graph, the 7900XT frame pacing was a lot smoother, as the 4070ti super seemed to have some instability.
Nice. Just picked up an open box 7900xt for $650 at microcenter
So basically 7900 XT is the superior gpu while being 100$ cheaper, unless you open ray tracing which destroys both cards anyway forcing half the fps loss
Alan wake 2 on nvidia says different
Dlss is why people buy nvidia
@@michakesicki831 Bad customer desicions is why people buy nvidia
RT is OK in 2K for the 4070ti s....while the right resolution for RT gaming whit Radeon is about 480p
@@achiramoto359 Ok? %50 performence loss to get barely noticable visual difference is ok?
Compare performance using tensorflow as well please
Does the 4070 ti Super beat the 3090Ti @4K? I don't care about other resolutions. I found a used 3090Ti used excellent condition for $700 I don't know if I should take it with 24GB or take the 4070 ti super with DLSS3. Power consumption is not an issue for me
3090Ti is the worst power-efficient card. It will burn your money by paying an electric bill. 3090Ti uses 500w power double the 4070Ti Super. and heat up your room. In summer, you will waste more power by turning down the AC.
DLSS 3 with FG win 3090Ti easily. 4070Ti Super has 16GB VRAM. good enough for 4K
Thats too expensive for a 3090 ti
A 3090 ti used shouldn't be bought above 550
No. not even worth $300@@Birdman._.
Read the question.@@KelvinKMS
Why you running Stock clocks in the 7900xt
& overclocked clock on the ti super ?
Cause he compares the worst xt and xtx cards
Like for xtx he compares the 355w reference but the majority are 468w and the best is 552w
Biased comparison. Lots of nvidia simps out there
@@TheShepherdsPath 550W is way above a super OC 4090...
@@Sims64340 The basic founders edition is 450w and the best one is "666w". Wym it is way above a super oc 4090???
I have seen most 4070ti super cards sitting around 2775Mhz, so 2800mhz won't make much difference over stock. Now the 7900XT is heavily overvolted, power limited, and underclocked as a result. My 7900XT sits between 2800mhz - 2900mhz, with the memory above 21Gbps, and it's at least 10-15% faster compared to what's shown here.
Correction. That's at 1440p, not 4k. At 4k, my card jumps between 2600mhz - 2750mhz. So it'll be maybe 10% faster than what's shown here at best.
7900 XT will outlive it. 20gb VRAM and 320 bit bus vs 16gb VRAM and 256 bit bus.
Byba little then a whole new line of cards drop and it wont even matrer
Bought a 7900 xt for about 700$+avatar included granted probably never play but compared to the 4070 ti s which was 200$ more
How well does it run? Any crashes or anything I’m thinking of buying one aswell
Bought my 7900XT for $805 and I didn't even know avatar was included, amazing price to performance. Only problem is I have way more issues than when I had my 1070ti; crashing and a bunch of bugs with the Vulkan API like right clicking to aim in siege clicks onto the desktop and minimizes the game. RDR2 crashes during cutscenes. But everything else runs amazing.
@@user-vf8yi5sq1w Haven't had any issues so far and it runs great
@@youaresodumblmao5086 that seems annoying epically with the siege does it do it often?
@@youaresodumblmao5086 hmm with rdr2 only had a crash at Emmet Granger's mission when dynamite is thrown in the manure cutscene other than that have not had any crashes
Bro when you are testing iGPU gaming with Ryzen 8700G. They released it yesterday.
There's sure a lot of walking around in these games.
Nvidia used to be a lot more efficient against amd, but in this case it just isn't, 50w difference with reduced performance ain't much of a big deal, that makes 7900xt looks much better than ever before (unless you must use the ray-tracing and other nvidian apps)
Никому не нужны AMD
@@gym1089 the hell with you
Their performance isn't that big of a difference. To the naked eye I won't notice the difference.
But DLSS has better image quality than FSR.
Have fun with AMD drivers 24.1.1 while playing BF2042 stutters were so bad I had to revert back to 23.11.1, driver 23.12.1 was horrible also! Sure nvidia has bad drivers here and there, but they get patched faster and are less often in my opinion.
how do you get those low temperatures on 7900xt? When i play it get to 73-76 always
Use PTM7950 Phase Changing Thermal Pads on the core, and better thermal puddy for the memory. Also, adjust your voltage. Most 7900XTs can handle 1070mv without an issue with stock frequencies. Set a custom fan curve, as well. Mine hits 355W under full gaming load, but never exceeds 68C with the reference cooler.
This is not what I wanted to see as I wait for my ASRock Phantom Gaming 7900XT to be delivered today! HaHa I'm just playin, I knew full and well it wouldn't perform as well in raytracing as a 4070ti Super which is the other card I was kind of considering. It was $850 though and I got my card on sale for $730 with a $30 rebate/store credit making it $700 in the end. I also picked up a Ryzen 5700X3D to go with it. I already had the rest of the hardware for my build which was an ASRock B550m itx mobo, a 32gb kit of DDR4 3200 CL14 dual rank ram, Corsair SF600 Plat PSU, 2TB nvme SSD, 2TB SATA SSD, and Jonsbo V8 case. I can't believe I'm building a new(ish) PC with the 7.5 year old AM4 socket and a newly released CPU for it.
Don't be fooled. The 4070 ti super is overclocked, and the 7900 xt is not.
Add an extra 7-12% to whatever was shown :)
7900 xt is faster on average, deff with its own overclock.
@@DavidBoggs-pk8nrthe ti super is not overclocked, i can easely get it to 2.9 ghz while its at 2.8 ghz at most here. performance in raster is the same, i dont see +- 5 fps sorry.
Now that the 4080 super is out can you test 2080s vs 4080s?ty very much
So we are still far from 4k 60 being somewhat mainstream. I wonder what resolutions do consoles use to do this, or all games shown here just run at 30 fps there?
Consoles use upscaling for 4k. Every game has different native resolution it upscales from
At $700, I would probably take the 7900 XT over the $800 4070 Ti Super.
The frametime seems a little smoother and the future resale value will be considerably better due to the 20 GB VRAM.
Wait till 4k gaming becomes normal then see how the card performs in next 5 years lol
Is power limit unlocked???
No, all tests are at stock performance.
How the companies perfectly calculate to have their graphics card models so close together, and have done so for ages with barely an exception (perhaps decades ago), is a perfect example of pettiness and some kind of strange delusions of greed. (Because ultimately it doesn't even help greed, rather on the contrary, just by the abstract concept of making the customer suffer a bit more - which possibly is a mindless economic dogma at universities.)
Considering that the 7900XT is $180 cheaper than 4070 Ti Super where I live, it's the obvious choice. Especially since I don't care one bit about ray tracing.
720 vs 799
@@YXY703 did you miss the part where I said "WHERE I LIVE"?
Cheaper and more garbage with bad drivers.
4070 Ti super is a fantastic card if it comes with a fair price.. it's basically all rounder 🔥
yes.
If you want native FPS go for 7900XT! Simple.
If you want Ray tracing go for the 4070 Ti S 35 fps hogwarts legacy where the rx 7900 xt only gets 20fps pathetic
get xtx ez😅
@@Gamer-vs3xlthe upgrade in visual quality still seems so minor when actually playing that I genuinely don’t get why anyone would turn raytracing on regardless of the brand you’re using.
@@Gamer-vs3xl If you want Ray tracing ANYTHING BELOW 4080 is pathetic. Nvidia and AMD both struggle to offer playable ray tracing performence under 1000 bucks
@@Gamer-vs3xl I feel like ray tracing with 1440p looks worse than 4k without ray tracing and you get less fps with it then if you were just to play on 4k
Don’t muddy the RT tests with upscaling please…
Noob, RT need dlss to work good. Dlss was created for this 🤡
The next gen is upscaler + rt
@@Thejacketof-huang not exactly, RT was created for the film and animation industry, but it get on gaming. DLSS was created to help RTX cards in bigger resolutions, like the RTX 20 series. They are not related, but RTX and bigger resolutions (4k and 1440) now is much more common in games, so DLSS is useful.
If you enable beamforming, it is also counted as dlss because it is part of dlss.
@@mercuryvirus dlss has denoiser and now ray reconstruction for clean glitches of RT, so yes, dlss was created for rt, not only to rise up fps at higher resolution
@@Thejacketof-huang i mean the earlier version of DLSS and RT
As for the 4070 Super vs 7800 XT, I would not pay 100$ more just for RT which I only turn on to see how useless it still is as of now, maybe in the future It turns into a obligatory feature like in Metro Exodus Enhanced, but for now I don't care for RT.
Guess I got roped in from starting with an RTX 2060 (currently RTX 3070) but I would not go backwards in RT performance thus why I've mainly avoided AMD so far, plus DLSS is much better (so far) vs FSR. But I'm skipping this generation either way, see what AMD/Nvidia comes up with next round.
@@jasonroberts8416 Ray tracing is a very crude technology. The visual difference between RT on and off is minimal. The question arises: why is RT needed?
@@jasonroberts8416 3070 here too bro, I understand that RT and DLSS make all the difference, but I still prefer a better Raster performance for my money. The only one I would prefer instead of the AMD equivalent is the 4080 Super, but like you, I will skip this and maybe even next gen if things keep this way.
@@lookknd I ask the samething every time I turn it on for testing purposes, why the hell someone needs RT?
@@lookknd It's only going to keep getting better and some games I have such as Cyberpunk / Portal RTX / Quake RTX / Minecraft RTX / Control & Alan Wake 2 all have very noticeable improvements with Ray tracing enabled.
Здравствуйте, целесообразно ли продавать 3070, добавлять 50k и приобретать rx 7900 xt?Моник 2k 165 гц
Ждать нового поколения или снижения цен
I'm Amazed of how well the 7900XT does in Cyberpunk 2077, its 40 vs 50fps which is a lot but of course in ray tracing it performs like an rtx 3070
ray tracing in the 7000 series is that there on par with last gen Nvidia so that means next gen Amd gpus would have 40 series ray tracing performance
8000 series focused on budget
RT is so overhyped. I could barely notice the difference in gameplay even in modern games like The Calisto Protocol when I really stopped and stared at the screen. The slight visual improvement you get does not justify the massive loss of FPS. I'd rather put everything to the max and have a fluid gaming experience.
There is a big difference, but mostly for enthusiastic.
the only RT I can notice a difference with is Path Tracing, that is a dream for me on my 6700xt however. Unless you have a 4070 Super/7900XTX or faster then path tracing isnt very good. the performance hit is wayyytoo big tho
Yep, RT Overhyped Garbage
@@Definedd Bro, full path tracing puts even the 4090 on its knees. The hardware is nowhere near ready for that techonology so that you don't get a massive FPS penalty. It was just another gimmick by NVIDIA and everyone fell for it.
@@anthonyc2159 yeah, you need upscaling + frame gen to be able to use it comfortably which sucks. hopefully its more available in future, I prefer AMDs software and drivers am considering a 7800xt for my next upgrade from a 6700xt, or maybe a 4070 super if price comes down another 50ish
Without RT, the 7900XT is easily the better card. If you prefer RT, then the 4070ti Super is the clear choice. But even then, I'm not sure I can justify the price. Currently, you can buy the 7900XT on Newegg for $689, while the lowest 4070ti Super is $799. So for $110 more you get less VRAM, slightly better RT performance, and some proprietary upscaling tech. Doesn't seem like an even tradeoff to me.
There’s is an £100-£140 price difference between the Rtx 4070ti super and RX 7900 XT. Price to performance really isn’t worth it to go for NVIDIA unless you want dlss and ray tracing.
4:30 cyberpunk setting at DLSS v Native 7900xt .... the 7900 would go 80-100fps with FSR2. i own a 6950xt and that what i get...
Rx 7900xt is 10% Faster Than 6950XT
Anyone know how to get rid of that little stutter with the 7800XT?! Happens in PUBG(ALOT), Cyberpunk(just a little) & Apex.
And yes my pc is stable, everything works great with nvidia. But when i pop that 7800XT in i have those stutters.
Yes i'm using DDU in safe mode, Yes everything is up-to-date. Nvidia works perfect, AMD doesn't.
Found the first corporate Nvidia bootlicker right here folks!!! Nvidia is still 1.5 generations ahead of AMD in RT so trying to make people believe you randomly swap in and out a $500 video card is pretty sad. Just like any other corporation, including AMD and Intel, Nvidia would happily step over your dead body on it's way to make an extra buck for it's bottom line.
@@jasonj5862loser
Don’t listen to this Jason guy here, he is just yapping…
I experience similar things with my sons PCs that I built.
One has an RTX 3060 as GPU and the other one has an RX 6650 XT.
Other than that, the systems are equal, same CPU, same motherboard, RAM etc.
Only the one with the AMD GPU is giving us problems with some games freezing or flickering on loading screens etc.
Also tried everything possible to get it fixed, nothing seems to work.
Now my son just does not play the games anymore where it happens.
Next step is to send the GPU back to the retailer to either get it fixed or replaced….
I have issue like that i felt reformat is the answer inhave two system sytem 1 is with 7800xt while system 2 has 3080 . System 1 is so smooth n stutters and feels fuild and fast as i put my 7800xt on system 2 it feels stuttery even though i used ddu. I think ill reformat it.
@@runfrankfurt What do you mean with reformat? Thanks for comment
The framtime is much smoother on 7900xt as well.
not really if you dont care about 5 fucking fps
@@3DHS_Extra_330SC i ended up going 4070 ti super 😂
so whats the conclusion? AMD RX 7900 XT or RTX 4070 TI Super? No clear answer?
Go for nvidia if you looking for 4k gaming but if you playing only 1080p go for amd
@@oldtimer666what do you talking about 💀
10ghz memory speed on the 4070ti s? that doesnt sound right...
It is correct.
Can't believe people are blowing ridiculous amounts of money to not even get 60FPS in 4k with these GPUS. 21 FPS WTF! and a total LOL! 40 FPS is laughable also costing that much money.
I think that's on the developers thinking everyone is gonna use upscaling technologies. Like for Remnant 2, the developers themselves stated that they developed the game using DLSS in mind as well as FSR. These developers are more and more lazy nowadays and will continue to release these terribly optimized games with no real innovative graphical improvement.
Nah, 20 FPS just for the noobs who are unable to configure their games.
Those 'yards are obsessed with Rasterization plus ultra/epic settings + RT, everything on to the point of killing themselves or not playing the games. Game Devs and sensate people are enjoying 4k/QHD since ever.
Software solutions as FSR, TAA, DLSS, Aliasing, Anti-Aliasing, DoF have always existed and those cards were done to use the same. I've been in 4k since my GTX 1070 up to 3070 (for four years) going 4070 now, yet, getting about 60-250 FPS since ever (Doom Eternal, Baldus Gate 3, Rd2, Assasin's Creed Odssey, Bannerlord 2, Triny series, Icarus Online, Aion, plus many other indie/AA titles etc) enjoying every bit of it. It while using 55-75° 4k TVs.
TIP: The AAA/newer is the game, the harder is hitting high FPS with all full. Performance > image quality and all you bogus have to do mainly when it comes to keep your resolution/other effects Also depend if the games aren't bad optimized. The complexer geometries and effects are, their amounts in a game, the more you've to care.
TIP: Not defending Nvidia, AMD or game companies but, all you bogus have to do is turning upscaling techs DLSS/FSR on which, as I commented yestarday in a video, barely diferentiate from "native" qualities. People with RTX 3050s are getting 100 FPS in Starfield with equal, sometimes better image quality due faster interpolations while those noobs insist in "raster w/ all ultra/full/RT/PT on". The tech grew and is growing constantly, and, yeah, to the point of Game Devs developing their games considering the same. Video Cards are been built just so to implement such tech better.. RTX 40xxs hello?
PS: Not even Stock and Sport cars depends only of raw power..........people are cheating their engines/creating aerodynamics etc, all the time. IF you have the cash $$$ to spend, then buy F1s... The same scenario, in GPU segments. W.t.f are them complainers doing here? Just buy RTXs 4090s x5 plus Egyp, Threadrippers with 512 GB RAM/200GB VRAM to play 4k "Native" = raster'ed...
...just don't mind you've to sell your house to do so :)
That’s 7900xt outperforms the 4070ti in most games until rt so for competitive shooter it would be better?
take bad drivers into consideration the rx could crash the game
@@brighthammer1414old mindset...
@@brighthammer1414 never owned amd it seems
@@brighthammer1414i have 7900xt and never had driver issues
@@Mesh-9 does the 7900xt crash for you I was thinking it’s 200 aud cheaper then the 4070 ti S and it has more vram for better native performance
well i guess rx 7900xt should be less than 700$ so that people can take rx 7900xt over rtx 4070 ti super
At least where I'm from you won't be able to find a 4070ti S at that price, 700 is the average price for just a good 4070S but 7900xt can easily be found at that price.
@@kayotic321 In my country cheapest 7900xt is still $950-$1000 while 4070ti super is $960-$1050
@@adlibconstitution1609 wow that's rough. Guess your doomed whichever brand you choose
Funny enough the rtx 4070 ti super is actually $200 - $300 maybe even $100 cheeper then the rx 7900 so it’s a better buy for me to save the extra money because the Australian market is CR4P
Alan Wake 2 really doesn't like AMD cards based on that comparison.
Its a NVIDIA sponsored game. They did help on that game to implement Ray tracing. Usually only the NVIDIA sponsored games have a huge performance difference
@@AndreFreitas91250i believe that’s mostly because the nvidia sponsored games use global illumination ray tracing or path tracing, which are the most demanding forms of the tech. I don’t subscribe to the theory that AMD cards are being purposefully hindered.
Nvidia title says it all , let's gimp amd hardware, that's Nvidia for you , almost all titles same .
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Difficult choice, of course amd card i much cheaper here 150$~ but more power consumption and in RT its much slower.
Damn, rip 4070 ti super at that price to performance 😁😅
everything is pointelss below 60 frames so rip amd too, but dlss + rt + fg is a massive booost
@@26DeislerFCB dlss, framegen, rt is a real joke and waste. Would rather play games on native resolution and without rt, best deal for most gamers.
@@rezo856 agree with RT in most games its pointless, never use it, but dlss is awesome, FG i only used so far in cp2077 was nice feeling i must say
@@26DeislerFCB Do you think there is huge or very small difference when it comes to dlss quality vs 4k native? if you experienced.
Also as I know, frame gen works as long as you have 60+ fps, cuz if u don't have 60 fps currently and have 30 fps for example, game will feel like 30 fps even if you activate frame gen.
@@rezo856 boy, did you even have a RTX gpu? DLSS is sometimes even better than native resolution or the same as native resolution.
RTX 4080 super next please 🙏
4090 super?
7900xt is a monster i hope to see it bellow 700 usd would be great deal
hopefully AMD makes the 710$ price permanent and not just temporary, 7800xt is also 470 now which is really good compared to the 4070 super
in my country 7900xt cost like $1000 and 7900xtx is like $1175
Why do I have more FPS in all the games you mentioned with 7900 XT?
with 5600x CPU
different settings, ram, cpu etc it could be anything but shouldnt be crazily different
All components have a flux in how performative they are, while this is only small. What resolution are you playing at?
Why are you testing the 4070 Ti S with a 4K resolution? This card is a beast for 2K resolution, and I don't think this test is necessary.
Plenty of people will use this card for 4K. Buying a 4090 for $2000 is incredibly stupid right now and next gen is less than a year away.
@@cosmic_gate476 The 4070 Ti S is not designed for 4K gaming. If you want to play in 4K, consider the 4080 or 4080 S.
@@azilio95that’s a pretty ridiculous statement to make.
_”$800 GPU isn’t a 4K card”_
@johnmoore1495 yeah the price is hella expensive ...
why did you not use AFMF?
im read somewhere that 7800XT and 7900XT idle consume 100 Watt.
no
NO
4K is too much for 4070Ti S. Realistically speaking most people will play at 1080p or 1440p.
lol would you pay 800$ for only 1440p? For me big NO.
If you only use raster on nvidia is like using only 50% of the silicon there are tensor cores doing nothing. So yeah this is for 4k@DLLS Quality all day sometimes even look better than native 4k.
@@robertopazsoldan9641 it would definitely struggle with 4K in the new titles, especially with ray-tracing/path-tracing. Sure you can get 80-90 fps in CP2077/Alan Wake 2 at 1440p maxed out with frame generation. But not 4K. Leave it to the older games.
yes the amd at the moment i think beats nvidea we cant only care about RT worth more the 7900
Hey dude What is the model of that RTX 4070 TI S?
check description
@@Lizinithanks friend but still I didn't get the model.
@@krizalidriot8354 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER GAMING OC
@@NExuSThoR78 Thanks a lot dude
You should get both GPU's to draw the same wattage too I guess, idk
It would certainly be advantageous considering 4070ti s isn't using almost 60watts compared to the other card.
What benefit does anyone get to doing that?
Both cards are bulls**t. Come on, spending around 800 bucks only for gpus and can’t even get 60 fps at 4k wtf. That is ridiculous.
Ok, I'm going to hibernate now. Wake me up when it's ok to turn on the RT.
The 7900xt is now 689 $
7900xt grow in performance with a simple oc is almost to 4080
Overclock the 4080 and it grows past 7900XT again.
@@davidfox326the XT is literally half the price
@@davidfox326 the 7900 series scales much better in OC, but the efficiency is not there
I don't think a lot of people care about power efficiency when your gpu is pulling 300+ watts@@maho8204
so the 4070 Ti S too
4070 ti Super > 7900 XT?
not sure why you are testing these cards at 4K they aren't designed for 4k games
next video 4090ti super mega pls
Until AMD doesn't improve their RT performance, Encoder, and AI based upscaling, it will have to simply rely on rasterization performance to win people.
Rx7900xt has dual av1 encoders , and can encode multiple streams , atm it's slightly better than Nvidia.
RT is good enough , match rtx4070 super .
Not sure what you complaining about ? It also cost $750 now , that's $100 cheaper.
As a 6800 owner, upscaling there is no big difference, its just for fan boys, but rt its the dealbreaker, amd it’s so bad on rt, i guess its not the main goal for them.
@@skywalker1991 Yea but the h264 and h265 encoders for Nvidia are much superior, I also have an AMD card and I could benefit really much from the NVENC H264 when playing VR with Oculus quest. At the moment if you are a content creator and don't care about price and want the top tier, Nvidia is the answer, AMD is just for budget/cheaper builds.
Ray tracing is over hyped , it's still in beta state , most RT in games is limited usecase , I wouldn't be spending big bucks on Rt GPUs now.
Well moment we get real fully RT implemented in games even rtx4090 will get 10 fps , I will buy RT GPUs when it's needed , just not now.
Nvidia has little better in RT but it's not the best yet . 15 to 20 % better don't mean jack in big scheme of things ,
All GPUs available ATM are not worth it yet .
When AMD was matching them in raster with RDNA 2, they desperately needed something to justify their inflated prices, and RT was their biggest scam. It is pathetic how horrible RT runs on Turing and people fell for it. DLSS actually became good over time, but FSR is catching up. Path tracing puts even the 4090 on its knees. The hardware is nowhere near where it needs to be in order to fully utilize it without a massive FPS penalty.
Why these graphics cards are cost same as RTX 4050 laptops? Lol.
In my country even a rx 7800 xt is closer to 4070 ti super price so definitely go with Nvidia
in my country 7900 xt is 150 dollars cheaper lol
Basically if you are going to do Ray Tracing Nvidia is only game in town it appears..
In my country 4070 Ti S goes for the same price as a 7900XTX
Where I live it's way cheaper than xtx
I don't know about 4070tiS but for 7900xt I am sure this guy undervolted/clocked. expect at least 10-15% more fps at stock. Its pure biased non professional video.
Well, given that pretty much all future AAA games (and especially those on UE5) will use hardware accelerated raytracing for GI, it is pretty clear that AMD is a stupid buy these days. I wish AMD was much faster at RT so it could actually compete.
Consoles ultimately dictate graphics technology in games since they’re the bottleneck. PS5 and Xbox are just over 3 years old at this point meaning we’ve got at least another 3 years for new consoles before raytracing will even be close to mainstream in gaming.
I get that it’s the future but the performance hit sucks relative to the visual fidelity gained. I’d rather just have more fps or higher resolution.
You still cant play with 40 fps at the 4070 ti super so what is so big about raytracing you cant play.
нa rtx нету 40fps, ето просто цыфры...смотрите на frame time
ray tracing -80% your game performance
who in they right mind still use it is beyond me :D
As long as you keep fps above 60fps rt its fine. Only for 4080 and 4090 owners its fine at 4k res.
@@pedrogurgel7822 4090 without dlss cant handle witcher 3 with full rt))
Keep your copium up my man
@@Somulo whats the problem using dlss or fsr? I would rather have a raw performance rt 4k above 60fps, but thats not the future
@@pedrogurgel7822 rt is garbage any shader can do better than this - 80% of performance is just absolute cringe
same with all what nvidia done in past days aside from dlss - like hair technology in witcher 3 again or else
too expensive - most of the people don't own 4k dollars pc to play it with rt
im not talking about steam users gpu statistics
cope
AMD card consuming 50-100w of additional power, not good. Can't RT and has poor upscaling compared to DLSS. Clear winner Nvidia.
Please don't like me i'm under the water
Tis
I just love ray tracing even though I can't tell if it's trurned on most of the time
Its the feature no one will use it it cant even give you pure 60 FPS why need it now?
outdated information. I run cyberpunk all maxed 150 fps or so@@Noone95noxchiand my GPU isnt even RTX 4090
Ray tracing when you enable it you can barely see the graphics diferrences but you can see half of the performances lost
Amd Ryzen 8700G, please! 😊
The RTX 4070 Ti S is seriously impressive! It's a big upgrade from the original RTX 4070 Ti and can finally give the 7900 XT a run for its money in raw power, plus way better Ray Tracing. Nvidia's got some neat features too. DLSS totally crushes FSR, although XeSS is a decent alternative. Honestly, I'd choose the RTX 4070 Ti S over the 7900 XT any day, and I'm saying this as someone who's rocking an RX 7900 XTX. But if AMD dropped the price to $650 for the 7900 XT and $799 or even less for the XTX, they'd still be awesome GPUs and serious competition for Nvidia, even though Nvidia's Ray Tracing performance is top-notch.
Finally I am first
I'm afraid not brother 😅I am, look carefully.
They actually have less frame rate than my Acer laptop 😢
RT: On. AMD: Off.
on like what, 5 games at most? enjoy sub 1080p upscaled image lol
Why test these cards in 4k? These cards are clearly for 2k
4070 Ti Super is enough for 4K (raytracing is useless)
4070 ti s vs 3090 ti pls
4080 SUPER VS 4080 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! waiting for
😅😂😂😂🎉😮
All every time: yea Amd is the better option... Market share: 75% nvidia haha
It’s more like 85% but yes. Honestly though I wonder where the numbers come from, because Steam hardware survey still barely has any RTX cards. Like did that many cards really get sold to businesses and miners over the last 6 years that so few actual gamers have RTX cards?
@@johnmoore1495 no the Hardware survey is a pretty good indication. Amd also has cards for mining and data centers etc. And what do you mean the most used gpus are literally rtx cards like the 3060.... a lot of peoole still play on older cards like the 10th series
@@theplayerofus319 I just looked at the survey, I didn’t realize that the 3060 had gained that much share over the last couple years. For the longest time the 1060 had ~10%.
Overall though GPUs must really be selling like crap for gamers. The RTX 4060 and the RTX 4090 have almost the same market share despite a $1200-$1600 price difference lol.
I still stand by the Steam hardware survey being kind of faulty though. Steam asks for the info of my Surface Pro 4 every year which I never play games on, I just have Steam installed to check stuff.
NVIDIA has 100x times better marketing and has a good reputation. People still think AMD GPUs need 100 more W for the same performance and crash games every 20 minutes. Most people i know never even considered AMD because they thought of it as an off brand chinese nvidia cards
@@siema14123 well amd uses more Watt this gen 😂 but the drivers are fine since 6000 series and people will need time to get it. Most got that their cpus are fine so radeons time will come i guess.
The only way to play Ray traced path traced games is with a 4080 or 4090. I'm sure the 4080 Ti is right around the corner with the 4090 Ti.
The 4090 barely has any cores disabled as is. A 4090Ti would basically have to be made from perfect chips at which point Nvidia is going to want you to mortgage your house for it lol
What many people need to understand is that specific developers or APIs favor specific brands. Unreal Engine is usually faster on Nvidia cards for a reason. Culling, geometry, etc is favored on Nvidia's shaders. Vulkan API is usually favored on AMDs shaders. AMD is charging way too much for their GPUs now that they are chiplets and not monolithic like Nvidia's still are today. These GPUS from AMD (7000 series) should drop in price drastically by the end of this year like their chiplet cpus. Intel's cpus also now drop in price a lot because of the chiplet design now. AMD only charges what AMD does because AMD does NOT wan to look inferior compared to Nvidia. Nvidia can get away with it but AMD knows they cannot. Nvidia will stop making GPUs soon. This is why Intel will be the second supplier. There is not enough room for 3 because Intel knows Nvidia will soon stop producing GPUs. When the FTC denied the purchase of ARM by Nvidia, Nvidia knew its days were over. If Nvidia was allow to purchase ARM, it would of meant the end of AMD and probably Intel as well. Everyone knows Nvidia's practices. Definitely the least ethical out of them all following Intel. But AMD would do the same if given the chance for sure.
Amd won. 100USD cheaper. The choice is simple
Its not simple, cause more energy consumption and in RT 20%+ slower. Quality fsr3 is not good aswell.
And bad OpenGL performance
@@CrazO9111 30-60 watts at most, while running faster raster?! thats nothing
@@CrazO9111 performance per wat is not even that big, sometimes even in favor of 7900xt. If you really care for RT i would buy 4070 ti super, but i feel like playing 4k without RT looks better than maxed RT on 1440p, thats why im waiting for 7900xt to drop a lil in price and ill buy it (I've had nvidia GPUs for the past 7 years and used rt like twice)
Why's Nvidia so good?
lmao cope more
They know how to make efficiecy best and performance at the same time!
Nvidia is good because CUDA and other techs for programs like blender, video editing etc..
If you are a gamer then AMD is always better for you because actually AMD always has the card to sell at a lower price than its competitors to compete anyway their nvidia equivalent generations always come out after nvidia launches a new gpu , if nvidia sells for 1000$ they sell for 800$ which is very easy to attract customers. As for nvidia, their gpu will be expensive but of course the market is dominated by them, because besides gamers there are also people who work with gpu and nvidia is a much better choice than AMD even though it is extremely expensive. So for them it's still a good price but for gamers it's not, the AMD card just has slightly higher pure gaming performance and the price is the advantage, that's a bright spot for people who only play games and work with AMD gpu. very bad from unstable drivers to very little support from the software, to compare you buy nvidia at a high price but you don't just buy one thing it's 10 in 1 and AMD is cheaper but you think it's the same thing. Of course it's not a great deal because it's only 2 in 1. All the complaints about nvidia are just because gamers find the price too high and the performance is relatively lower than AMD, which makes them angry, I think. If nvidia separates having a work gpu and a gaming gpu and cuts out the features that a gamer doesn't need for gaming then the price will go down or somehow nvidia charges a lower R&D fee per product, you know nvidia has gpu development costs 10 times higher than amd
These cards should only be compared in raw power everyone knows AMD needs to catch up in ray tracing and frame gen
theres no reason to buy a 4070ti super over a 750usd (sometimes 720usd) 7900xt unless youre a team green fanboy or actually care about RT.
what if i have gsync monitor, is it still okay to go with 7900 xt. I don't think i have freesync because it literally says (nvidia g-sync) on my monitor
The 7900 XT draws more power but considering its way cheaper than a 4070 Ti Super and you get nearly the exact same performance, the choice is pretty obvious.
input lag 7900 xt bad
Both are ready for gta6 but rx7900xt with 20gb is ready for gta7 also. 😂
GPU=Nvidia
AMD = gamers friendly