@ you swiped a credit card to be bad at the game, learn the matchup, if you don’t know anything about any character you’re gonna get creamed by them, Clive just doesn’t have any tekken history to learn from
20:39 There are a couple stance lows and that Lidia mostly did the -14 one - CAT4. Good rule of thumb - if you got punished, it is CAT stance and the low is -14; otherwise, it is probably HRS and the low is -18; finally, for completeness, the other low WLF4 is only accessible after transitioning from a previous stance (e.g. after CAT4, or manually) and is -16!
I'm a SF player, and he got me to pick up 8. I've been loving playing Jin Kazama, I'm just not yet consistent with my EGWF and I've been having issues with hellsweep more than EGWF I can get EGWF 40-60% of the time hellsweep is only like 25% Also I feel like I play too much SFV and my game comes down to footsies and I don't know how to combo just react. This guy has been hella badass to watch and learn this game.
I love playing him and he became way more fun when it wasn't so meta to just press f1+2 for everything. I hope he mostly stays the same, unsure what is nerfable rn but I don't think he needs any buffs in particular except maybe some move consistency adjustments
I rly like listening to the thought process and how you generally play defense/decide to stop mashing. I gotta see your other ranked attempts w/ other characters (like the jun one, etc). Good stuff~
my go to heat dash combo is to do 2 loops of db1+2,1 for example a 70 damage combo would be f1+2~F HD db1+2,1 UPD 3 db1+2,1 UPD2,2 T! df1,2~F PHX1 UPD is updraft idk what the agreed on abbreviation is after tornado you can do what you want ofc, b2 -> RA is a nice one or if the wall is nearby (but not too near!) maybe df1,4,3 WOL 2 might even hit
I never thought I'd say it but f+1+2 is all I needed changed. It's a mental thing just as much as it was actual mechanics. Now it feels more like he's using his sword as a range check to outplay you and when he's in his rushes you can get put in a vortex but his lows are VERY publishable and now you can actually step and react to different attacks by discouraging f+1+2
@@mitchthegreat literal 50/50 unseeable counter hitting throws that do half your health, insane armor that is basically impossible to punish, and the hardest hitting heat smash in the game cause why not.
THANK YOU DUDE. You are keep teaching me my mains. This Clive gameplay helped me so much. I hopped into some matches just doing what you are doing and im feeling a lot comfortable now with clive. Do you have an advice with the Wallcombos? in some instances the F21 1+2 drops at the 1+2, the 22 1+2 drops at the end of the 1+2 and the enemy can techroll and punish, and the hellsweep DF31 wallcombo drops at the lazer almost 70% of the time when i use the U1+2 2 1 or U1+2 2 PHX 21 as a walltravel in this instance both of the previous wallcombo drops too. The only consistent wall option for me what doesn't drop is just the 1+2 alone or the 12 10 frame punish at the wall.
Char is still fine, just not as obnoxious as before. And as more ppl are getting used to him and his animations he's getting easier to face. I still 2nd him cuz him and Lars are dopamine rushes for me and I like seeing them on the screen than even my waifu Lili.
Start throwing out 1 F2. Its a high high move that doesnt jail. However, with a clean hit, it wall splats from a decent range from the wall. Also, its plus 3 (i think) on block. The pushback makes it perfect for if your opponent blocks it and tries to punish, a f1+2 will always hit. Very strong move but only if the second hit doesnt get ducked.
The problem with 1, f2 is that it does not have an option to beat fuzzy duck. You cant delay 1,2 enough to make the timing similar to 1,f2. Once people stop complaining and learn the matchup, 1,f2 will be useless. f1+2 will be useless too once people learn now that it's punishable on block
@Spawnamvs that's if the sidestep actually fucking works. Usually it just doesn't since every move that every character has tracks so crazy that you can hit people that are behind you (unless you're a Mishima that isn't Jin, in that case fuck you for not playing someone else)
why does noone use f+2,1 or 4,4 into pheonix. Both give situations where you're plus off of mids. People can always duck the high followup, but most people don't take the chance.
I also want to add that going into PHX on block is kind of a gimmick (except after running 2). The opponent has way too many options in those situations. It's just people don't know the matchup yet. It ain't like Reina's f,f+2 into sentai (starts mid, super fast, lots of range, she's plus)
@elihuvalentin4073 all of reina's safe sentai mids are chip damage, the launcher and powercrush are both launch punishable, the low and grab are chip damage. Literally everything after ff2 is interruptable, even sentai 3 trades with jabs
@@circa2008 I've had a few duck those strings, but those strings have mid extensions that reset the situation with you being plus if the mid hits.. Even a fuzzy wouldn't allow them to stand quick enough if they attempted to duck. standing 4 in particular is mid and 12 frames start so most get hit into the second 4 into pheonix anyway.
phx stance is an actual menace. its a MASSIVE 50/50 where you can get absolutely blown up for ducking OR stand blocking. yoshi got a 100% 50/50 at the wall, but clive has a 100% 50/50 everywhere. dont stand block, but especially dont duck, cause clive will blow you up.
I just can't when this character, even after his nerfs. I disagree on principle. A character who can dominate the neutral from any range, but can also mix you up hard at range 0 & not let you move, is just awful, from a design standpoint.
My dude, they did not literally import Clives model into Tekken. What they meant in the interview was that they had to buffen him up to look like he fits into the Tekken universe as FF characters are much more slim. The model was not imported or modified directly from FF16 whatsoever.
It's literally said in the interview that they asked for Clive, Iffit, etc and they had to make Clive a bit bigger to match Jin and Kazuya. Might need to go rewatch it
So far everyone I’ve fought using Clive who’s sent me messages about how I’m a scrub for playing him had no idea how to punish him. He has plenty of highs to duck under and punish and nearly everything he does is either unsafe or gives up his turn. His special meter that does a raw 80 damage at max is a bit much but that’s also launch punishable at -15. So far I’ve never been properly punished for it
He needs more moves or a complete change to his move set honestly, i am BAFFLED at how they managed to make such a flashy character SO boring to fight against and to watch. This character is BORING.
@ honestly idk, very different. I have no love for Noctis but i just auto pilot while facing Clive just to get the match over with, every single one plays the same lol
Clive, Jin, Nina, Yoshimitsu, Dragunov, and Feng all need nerfs so that people can finally realize that Victor is the actual top tier character that we have all been waiting for
I just think sword characters in this game is stupid. Why give characters weapons that break the games rules... like unparryable lows is rediculous. Or moves that can hit you from far asf away and still be safe just makes no sense..
Can't wait to see how this guy reacts when he finds out that swordless characters also have unparryable lows. (let's ban elbows, knees, jumping attacks, chars must only use palms and feet to attack)
@@jimdino77 only things he needs nerfed now is his b2' and phoenix shift 1+2 that's literally it. The top 5 are still running around untouched and people still cry about Clive lol it's insane I haven't fought a single Clive in the past 5 days goes to show how much of a "problem" he is now right?
@@RayzeCruxis well yea.. t7 leroy was actually a problem for the game he was in. He was much stronger than Clive is now. Yoshi is stronger than clive, nina, drag and jin are also stronger. Clive is actually quite balanced. He doesn't need any more nerfs.
It genuinely concerns me how much people still complain about Clive. No doubt he has strong moves still... But the same people act like the top 5 arent a problem. I think people just have a certain biased opinion towards Clive just because hes Clive lol but Jin and Yoshi and Nina are ok
What we need is TAA alternatives and unlocked fps, better netcode, mandatory PC benchmark at the very least for ranked, lag switch and [better] ragequit/plug protection, more optimization and crash fix for PC, etc. All this art and dlc should come AFTER the game is fixed and up to 2025 standards. But fgc is so far stuck in the past that they just take sloppy seconds and smile without a single complaint. I'm annoyed how low you guys' standards are. Its like they reached the absolute bare minimum standard of like year 2000 [of regular games] and everyone's in fgc is like 'yeah looks good to me'. Except that were in 2025 by now. They picked the negatives of 2025 like forced TAA (which is unfathomable for me), just fyi if anyone isn't aware - it simply makes everything look blurry during *any* motion, which obviously in a fighting game is ALWAYS. It makes for nice screenshots and nothing else, at the expense of gameplay. It has no right to be in a competitive game. As well as stuff like battle passes and such. But then they ignored all the good parts of modern gaming like the fact that we no longer are limited to 60hz and in fact modern displays can't and will never look sharp in motion at 60fps, unlike those old CRTs. So we have both low fps (that looks blurry on modern displays) AND forced blurry TAA. Amazing. And no one's talking about it. P.s. before someone once again says its not possible to unlock fps - theres a mod by a single guy that does it already.. but you shouldnt need to run unknown code on your pc, when developers could and should do it themselves, just to reach bare minimum of what is expected in 2025. It would do a lot of good for fgc to step out of their tiny bubble once in a while and check that its not 1990s anymore. If we dont ask for better - we will never get better.
he's the most played because he has the easiest most damaging counters + combos if you're against a masher. Since a huge part of any fighting game players are mashers, obviously, he's gonna be "top tier" (of the bad players). Wanna beat Clive ? Bait him, clive players are very often spammers who can't handle when you slow the pace
@@Jinkuzu I understand that you believe that. I play a lot, and if I play 100 matches, I'll see Clive once. Kazuya, Lili. Bryan, law, Steve and Jin are the characters I see the most.
All f1+2 did was make Clive extremely boring to watch. He was broken in spite of that move. Now, he’s still broken as all hell and easily top 5. But he’s slightly less boring to watch. His heat is the best in the game, b2 and wr2 force a 50/50 guess on block, and 1+2 is still spammable with zero consequence.
@ I literally made an hour long anti-Clive video. I know the character. He has everything I mentioned, plus the best male sidestep in the game, plus a great backdash. Top 5 is being generous. There’s a good chance he’s still top 1.
@@Johnnycagea no, dude. Wr2. It’s +14 on block and forces a 50/50 mixup in which you have no choice but to guess. B2 does the same thing with a BIT more leniency, but it’s still a guess in the end.
He's a solid B-Tier character, has legitimate weakness and strengths and is SUPER respectful of the FF source material he was pulled from with flashy cool moves
I checked out Tekken 1 a few days ago and saw that they put some dumbass bear and some big robot dude in a game with realistic martial arts? Tekken is dead, I'm gonna go play a real fighting game like VF5 [plays a single ranked match, gets ringed out, uninstalls the game]
this dude goes into ranked to do a tutorial video 🤣I'm sweating like im in a sauna when I queue up
Well that's simply because he's playing the most carried character in the game
@@bandawin18 bro doesn't know how to be better at the game
@@justcallmemichael6682 if by "do better" you mean "swipe a credit card to ensure you never lose a game" then sure I guess you'd be right
@ you swiped a credit card to be bad at the game, learn the matchup, if you don’t know anything about any character you’re gonna get creamed by them, Clive just doesn’t have any tekken history to learn from
@@bandawin18 can’t wait to see you destroy Arslan in the next tournament, must’ve missed you the last time. Since its so easy you just have to pay
Pls never calls us the "little DXs", thanks phi. Awesome video as always🔥🔥
Lmao
Dx
00:42 I was only listening to the video and suddenly looked and you were in the game lol
Smooth transition xD
Shows how good he's getting at these commentary vídeos
I don’t get it…
GUYS... he's talking about the Clive custom outfit lmao
"most characters can't privilege" -PhiDX
That's cause Clive's a white cis male
P P CLIVE BOYS
20:39 There are a couple stance lows and that Lidia mostly did the -14 one - CAT4.
Good rule of thumb - if you got punished, it is CAT stance and the low is -14; otherwise, it is probably HRS and the low is -18; finally, for completeness, the other low WLF4 is only accessible after transitioning from a previous stance (e.g. after CAT4, or manually) and is -16!
i want to enjoy Lidia but she's more kazino than Kazuya 😂
Shhh stop telling them
Jokes on you, I'm using this to learn how to beat Clives. 😎
The way you talk is unique amongst the Tekken content creator, everything you say you say it with a good vibe and you are confident yet humble
I'm a SF player, and he got me to pick up 8. I've been loving playing Jin Kazama, I'm just not yet consistent with my EGWF and I've been having issues with hellsweep more than EGWF I can get EGWF 40-60% of the time hellsweep is only like 25% Also I feel like I play too much SFV and my game comes down to footsies and I don't know how to combo just react. This guy has been hella badass to watch and learn this game.
He’s still good, if you get caught mashing it’s a high damage combo.
If you get caught pressing a button at all while Clive is mashing the same thing happens
Don't forget still has the best range in the game too
thats the same thing vs every character
took some of these tips and used them this morning. went on a decent win streak.
I love playing him and he became way more fun when it wasn't so meta to just press f1+2 for everything. I hope he mostly stays the same, unsure what is nerfable rn but I don't think he needs any buffs in particular except maybe some move consistency adjustments
I rly like listening to the thought process and how you generally play defense/decide to stop mashing. I gotta see your other ranked attempts w/ other characters (like the jun one, etc). Good stuff~
This video is very helpful, I appreciate 😊
I like how you pilot him!
I haven't been catching any streams lately but I hope to see more Phi Clive in the future!
Definitely gonna jot down these notes
Heat smash combo: DB 1+2 and the usual 3, followed by another DB 1+2 but 2 2 to launch. into his i14
Clive 's Phoneix twist is like his version of Kazuyas hellsweep
Hell yeah bout to take all this knowledge, and df2 my way into blue
my go to heat dash combo is to do 2 loops of db1+2,1
for example a 70 damage combo would be
f1+2~F HD db1+2,1 UPD 3 db1+2,1 UPD2,2 T! df1,2~F PHX1
UPD is updraft idk what the agreed on abbreviation is
after tornado you can do what you want ofc, b2 -> RA is a nice one or if the wall is nearby (but not too near!) maybe df1,4,3 WOL 2 might even hit
I never thought I'd say it but f+1+2 is all I needed changed. It's a mental thing just as much as it was actual mechanics.
Now it feels more like he's using his sword as a range check to outplay you and when he's in his rushes you can get put in a vortex but his lows are VERY publishable and now you can actually step and react to different attacks by discouraging f+1+2
I've never succeeded at publishing any of his lows, but maybe some other channels have done so successfully.
@@MrJuitmanHis 3 after phoenix dash is extremely punishable.
Lyvesauce is shaheen's strongest warrior, rip
Nice fit dawg
PhiDx is NEVER washed, great video Phi 👍🏿
Happy for Clive, feel bit more fair and still strong they work so hard on this character they not gonna nerf him to the ground , clive is here to stay
What Tekken song does PhiDX have on during his first match against Steve?
Estrada de Estrela from T5DR
Tekstep Fountain from TTT2
what buttons are H.u at the one shot heat combo?
The H means heat, u is up as normal - so do up 1+2, 2, 1 while in heat
@@damnitschmolt9205 ok thanks
As someone who wanted Tifa, I will cheer each and every nerf Clive gets.
We need his sword length lore accurate
yapping 😂
1 month to patch Clive, 1 year to not patch Yoshi, Nina, Jin, Feng, Xiayou, Dragunov, King, Alisa, Law, Kuma
Tekken World Tournament. Wait season 2 your precious nerfs.
What's king do that's so bad?
Theyve all been patched multiple times. This is always such a dumb take
@@mitchthegreat literal 50/50 unseeable counter hitting throws that do half your health, insane armor that is basically impossible to punish, and the hardest hitting heat smash in the game cause why not.
Nah @@kingkino2116
i know its not perma damage, but i really think people sould go for lvl5 if possible
lol the clive is him...hes him...
This just in - characters good when heat.
Forgot to add “too” in the title
Wats the move button on 14.19...?
THANK YOU DUDE. You are keep teaching me my mains. This Clive gameplay helped me so much. I hopped into some matches just doing what you are doing and im feeling a lot comfortable now with clive. Do you have an advice with the Wallcombos? in some instances the F21 1+2 drops at the 1+2, the 22 1+2 drops at the end of the 1+2 and the enemy can techroll and punish, and the hellsweep DF31 wallcombo drops at the lazer almost 70% of the time when i use the U1+2 2 1 or U1+2 2 PHX 21 as a walltravel in this instance both of the previous wallcombo drops too. The only consistent wall option for me what doesn't drop is just the 1+2 alone or the 12 10 frame punish at the wall.
For low splats you can do df1 > 1+2. I haven't found what is optimal there though
Yet still no Yoshi nerfs..
DJ soon? pls and thanks!
how do you get 2 different color for hair like that steve
I haven’t run into a single clive on quick play and ranked since the nerfs honestly
It's every other match for me, once it was even the same fucking guy 3 times in a row. Probably would've been a fourth if I didn't block him
Char is still fine, just not as obnoxious as before. And as more ppl are getting used to him and his animations he's getting easier to face. I still 2nd him cuz him and Lars are dopamine rushes for me and I like seeing them on the screen than even my waifu Lili.
when is S2 dropping?
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Start throwing out 1 F2. Its a high high move that doesnt jail. However, with a clean hit, it wall splats from a decent range from the wall. Also, its plus 3 (i think) on block. The pushback makes it perfect for if your opponent blocks it and tries to punish, a f1+2 will always hit. Very strong move but only if the second hit doesnt get ducked.
what is a "clean hit"?
Hitting someone without the counter hit property
The problem with 1, f2 is that it does not have an option to beat fuzzy duck. You cant delay 1,2 enough to make the timing similar to 1,f2. Once people stop complaining and learn the matchup, 1,f2 will be useless. f1+2 will be useless too once people learn now that it's punishable on block
high high moves are useless and will get you killed once you start fighting people who know how to play tekken, bad habit
Great, now i can play the game again lmao
I mean he's really just strong now. But that b1+2 needs to push back a whole lot less farther so punishes can be consistent
Dude turned this game into soul caliber.
Im noticing that even at higher ranks, people are just hilding back vs stepping
I don't blame them. Clive is so hard to step
Not really much you can do when Clive is mashing
This is false on so many levels. He wasnt that difficult to step even before nerf.
@@bandawin18 I disagree. He can be stepped as long as you're not reckless or just putting out buttons
@Spawnamvs that's if the sidestep actually fucking works. Usually it just doesn't since every move that every character has tracks so crazy that you can hit people that are behind you (unless you're a Mishima that isn't Jin, in that case fuck you for not playing someone else)
Phi, since last update i don't see F1+2 anymore. Now i just see them spam 1+2 like absolute crackheads 🤣
Did you get new lighting?
Nah but it was daytime
@@PhiDX "im up when the sun down, i sleep when my heart dont pound, im off the ground you couldnt fuck wit my bounce"
I need my marbles run back 😅
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PP Clive! PP Clive!!
Power crash needs to be lowered on power or speed. I think both it makes no sense literally moves me from my position now i can't grab or punish.
why does noone use f+2,1 or 4,4 into pheonix. Both give situations where you're plus off of mids. People can always duck the high followup, but most people don't take the chance.
Because good players duck and and launch every single high move you do.
I also want to add that going into PHX on block is kind of a gimmick (except after running 2). The opponent has way too many options in those situations. It's just people don't know the matchup yet. It ain't like Reina's f,f+2 into sentai (starts mid, super fast, lots of range, she's plus)
@elihuvalentin4073 all of reina's safe sentai mids are chip damage, the launcher and powercrush are both launch punishable, the low and grab are chip damage. Literally everything after ff2 is interruptable, even sentai 3 trades with jabs
@@circa2008 I've had a few duck those strings, but those strings have mid extensions that reset the situation with you being plus if the mid hits.. Even a fuzzy wouldn't allow them to stand quick enough if they attempted to duck. standing 4 in particular is mid and 12 frames start so most get hit into the second 4 into pheonix anyway.
@ You are mistaken, neither of those strings have mid extensions.
I'm currently 1-7 against him all time in ranked.
phx stance is an actual menace. its a MASSIVE 50/50 where you can get absolutely blown up for ducking OR stand blocking. yoshi got a 100% 50/50 at the wall, but clive has a 100% 50/50 everywhere. dont stand block, but especially dont duck, cause clive will blow you up.
It's really not that different to other stances. Heihachi has a stance mid that is a full launch
@@Kuukeksi which move are you talking about?
@@johnnymonsterrrr FUJ2 is a mid electric that launches
Yes absolutely this. PHX mix-up is really annoying.
the slide low should be -15, thats the only issue tbh
Hello past me!
You should do a video on small tekken I’m struggling with it and I think it would be a great video
I just can't when this character, even after his nerfs. I disagree on principle.
A character who can dominate the neutral from any range, but can also mix you up hard at range 0 & not let you move, is just awful, from a design standpoint.
May i know who else got 13f safe mid heat engager other than Clive?
Lars & Heihachi
That tracks very well too
Notable mention Paul f2 i13 heat engager that's a full heatdash launcher unlike Clive 1+2
@@KuukeksiIs Paul’s a high or a tracking mid? Clive is better than Paul in every way and much easier to pilot.
@@KuukeksiYou can punish both.
I’m still learning. In the combos what does UPD and PHX mean? Clive got me to buy the game, but I’ve only played a few hours yet.
Those are stances! Updraft and Phoenix
Oh my god “longer pp episode” ☠️☠️☠️☠️
yeah Clive is still good
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1 month for a nerf on a new character but jin since T1 never get nerfed gg wp
I see Clive i just unplugged before Ithe fight load's these players are the most cheap and just not right in the head he's a 100% carry
they could make him a lily less flashy for another nerf. half the time i can't see shit on my screen
🖤🤍💙
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he said pp guys
(we’ve been baited, wp you know your immature audience well)
instead of u1+2 string at the wall... df1,4 lev 2 does around the same dmg and gives you a wr2 50/50 again xD
i love pp
Heihachi when? 😂
My dude, they did not literally import Clives model into Tekken.
What they meant in the interview was that they had to buffen him up to look like he fits into the Tekken universe as FF characters are much more slim.
The model was not imported or modified directly from FF16 whatsoever.
Did they not take his model, and then modify it? I don't think they recreated assets from scratch, just the VFX
It's literally said in the interview that they asked for Clive, Iffit, etc and they had to make Clive a bit bigger to match Jin and Kazuya. Might need to go rewatch it
So far everyone I’ve fought using Clive who’s sent me messages about how I’m a scrub for playing him had no idea how to punish him. He has plenty of highs to duck under and punish and nearly everything he does is either unsafe or gives up his turn. His special meter that does a raw 80 damage at max is a bit much but that’s also launch punishable at -15. So far I’ve never been properly punished for it
He needs more moves or a complete change to his move set honestly, i am BAFFLED at how they managed to make such a flashy character SO boring to fight against and to watch.
This character is BORING.
Would you prefer Noctis?
@ honestly idk, very different. I have no love for Noctis but i just auto pilot while facing Clive just to get the match over with, every single one plays the same lol
pp time!
Im the best clive out there i get 10 wins by playing high rank players. I gets bored.
Pp clive? Lol. No diddy
So basically clive is STILL a carried bullshit character and the few nerfs he got weren't enough
Clive, Jin, Nina, Yoshimitsu, Dragunov, and Feng all need nerfs so that people can finally realize that Victor is the actual top tier character that we have all been waiting for
I just think sword characters in this game is stupid. Why give characters weapons that break the games rules... like unparryable lows is rediculous. Or moves that can hit you from far asf away and still be safe just makes no sense..
Can't wait to see how this guy reacts when he finds out that swordless characters also have unparryable lows.
(let's ban elbows, knees, jumping attacks, chars must only use palms and feet to attack)
Don’t worry about that guys response , he just talking to talk
@@mytemptacion8846 funny how you made a comment just to make a comment 👌
One minute
I know this man did not just air quote calling b3 a "defensive option".
honestly clive is boring af played im so much after release eventually went back to viktor since viktor is just a better clive with more fun combos
you can tell whos low ranks by seeing who thinks he needs to be nerfed more
You can tell who got carried into high ranks by the people pleading that he doesn’t get nerfed again 😂
@@jimdino77 only things he needs nerfed now is his b2' and phoenix shift 1+2 that's literally it. The top 5 are still running around untouched and people still cry about Clive lol it's insane I haven't fought a single Clive in the past 5 days goes to show how much of a "problem" he is now right?
@@NickelEt-u5c b2 is a high, just make sure you duck that move and launch it. For phx 1+2 I don't really know
PP Anna soon
make his df1 a 13fr move
.. why... It's a df1
@ 13fr punish into mix BABY
Reina’s df1 is 13f… have I been robbed without knowing I thought that’s normal lol
@@xSpaget not all buttons are designed equal
@@xSpagetyeah 13f df1 is normal. Most characters have a 13f df1
He needs more nerfs
He should be the weakest character of the roster.
@ so real
@@LordViktorHun88 He's canonically the strongest so obviously he should be the strongest in game
@@Sincleaver dumb reason to keep it that way
As if Dragunov and Yoshi are sooo much more enjoyable to play against
Safe to say Clive is T8 version of T7 Leroy. Wouldnt suprised me from here on out he is to be nerfed from here on out.
He already got nerfed and is balanced now.
He's definitely not T7 Leroy, you're exaggerating.
@LudenTr yet Leroy continued to be nerfed. Let's face it no fighting game company is good at patches so no shock it could or will happen.
Hes not balanced. @@LudenTr
@@RayzeCruxis well yea.. t7 leroy was actually a problem for the game he was in. He was much stronger than Clive is now.
Yoshi is stronger than clive, nina, drag and jin are also stronger. Clive is actually quite balanced. He doesn't need any more nerfs.
@@Jinkuzu how is he not balanced? Everything has a counter.
It genuinely concerns me how much people still complain about Clive. No doubt he has strong moves still... But the same people act like the top 5 arent a problem. I think people just have a certain biased opinion towards Clive just because hes Clive lol but Jin and Yoshi and Nina are ok
He is now smol pp clive
What we need is TAA alternatives and unlocked fps, better netcode, mandatory PC benchmark at the very least for ranked, lag switch and [better] ragequit/plug protection, more optimization and crash fix for PC, etc. All this art and dlc should come AFTER the game is fixed and up to 2025 standards. But fgc is so far stuck in the past that they just take sloppy seconds and smile without a single complaint. I'm annoyed how low you guys' standards are.
Its like they reached the absolute bare minimum standard of like year 2000 [of regular games] and everyone's in fgc is like 'yeah looks good to me'. Except that were in 2025 by now.
They picked the negatives of 2025 like forced TAA (which is unfathomable for me), just fyi if anyone isn't aware - it simply makes everything look blurry during *any* motion, which obviously in a fighting game is ALWAYS. It makes for nice screenshots and nothing else, at the expense of gameplay. It has no right to be in a competitive game. As well as stuff like battle passes and such. But then they ignored all the good parts of modern gaming like the fact that we no longer are limited to 60hz and in fact modern displays can't and will never look sharp in motion at 60fps, unlike those old CRTs.
So we have both low fps (that looks blurry on modern displays) AND forced blurry TAA. Amazing.
And no one's talking about it.
P.s. before someone once again says its not possible to unlock fps - theres a mod by a single guy that does it already.. but you shouldnt need to run unknown code on your pc, when developers could and should do it themselves, just to reach bare minimum of what is expected in 2025.
It would do a lot of good for fgc to step out of their tiny bubble once in a while and check that its not 1990s anymore.
If we dont ask for better - we will never get better.
They need to take his kneecaps. Hes the most played character by far and has best winrate in game.
Yes he needs nerfs not a singular multiple ones.
Never see him
he's the most played because he has the easiest most damaging counters + combos if you're against a masher. Since a huge part of any fighting game players are mashers, obviously, he's gonna be "top tier" (of the bad players). Wanna beat Clive ? Bait him, clive players are very often spammers who can't handle when you slow the pace
He is not the most played character haha. Like not even top 5.
@@GrownManPat He's most played but thats still 13 % so you're not always playing vs him. He's almost played 3 times more then kazuya
@@Jinkuzu I understand that you believe that. I play a lot, and if I play 100 matches, I'll see Clive once. Kazuya, Lili. Bryan, law, Steve and Jin are the characters I see the most.
This character is everything wrong with this game
That’s Jin and Heiachi
And Clive
Comparing heiachi and Jin is criminal heiachi is perfect Jin is busted Clive is still new
Heihachi is a bit cheesy as well. A lot of gambling when u play against mischimas
@@TheDocGreen1bro complained about heihachi 💀💀💀 this community is cooked
All f1+2 did was make Clive extremely boring to watch. He was broken in spite of that move. Now, he’s still broken as all hell and easily top 5. But he’s slightly less boring to watch. His heat is the best in the game, b2 and wr2 force a 50/50 guess on block, and 1+2 is still spammable with zero consequence.
Top 5. cmon man. Play the game first
Easily top 5 @@kaspersmilez
@ I literally made an hour long anti-Clive video. I know the character. He has everything I mentioned, plus the best male sidestep in the game, plus a great backdash. Top 5 is being generous. There’s a good chance he’s still top 1.
You mean WR4? It's -5 on block I think, so you can just hit Clive out of it.
@@Johnnycagea no, dude. Wr2. It’s +14 on block and forces a 50/50 mixup in which you have no choice but to guess. B2 does the same thing with a BIT more leniency, but it’s still a guess in the end.
I hope they GUT Clive live on cam, he's done too much 😭😭😭
He's a solid B-Tier character, has legitimate weakness and strengths and is SUPER respectful of the FF source material he was pulled from with flashy cool moves
B tier is the worst tier in this calm down bro hes A+ stop crying
@johnnymonsterrrr lol that means you just suck at the game, he's B Tier stop coping
Found the Clive player downplaying their character again, like Yoshi and Nina mains trying to gaslight everybody lmao
@@xSpaget lol literally just get good, he has weaknesses, learn
Educate us please? What exactly are said weaknesses? Cuz I’m thinking your juts horrible at Tekken.
I checked out Tekken 1 a few days ago and saw that they put some dumbass bear and some big robot dude in a game with realistic martial arts? Tekken is dead, I'm gonna go play a real fighting game like VF5 [plays a single ranked match, gets ringed out, uninstalls the game]