I started learning piano over two months ago, and because I cannot hear the difference in any of the before/after tuning in your video, I’m worried I will not learn to play well. Please tell me differentiating pitch develops eventually. 🙁
Don't worry. Hearing the piano being out-of-tune is different from differentiating pitch. The difference is a lot more subtle when the pianos are slightly out of tune compared to the difference of C and G, for example. Sometimes I even have trouble hearing when other instrumentalists say their instrument is out of pitch.
Before tuning - PLIUUUM After tuning - PLIIIM There's beauty in the slight out-tuning of acoustic pianos. I had a Yamaha of plastic keys (with counterweights) which sounded more artificial, now I have a Kawai whose sound I like a lot, and it has wooden keys, it also simulates better the counterweights of a real piano. I dream of having a baby grand, even an upright, it's such a different sound. I can't escape from electric pianos because I live in a flat and I don't want to disturb too much my neighbors/family, but I have the suspicion that it is damaging my hearing. The more you approach to the median of the max volume the more bright and similar to real piano it becomes. I noticed the action of the real pianos are much harder. Here's a personal story, somehow by being unused to playing them for a long time, when I had a surprise recital this year and because they didn't allow for any practice, my hands got stuck many times during the performance. I played fantasie impromptu which I learned a couple months before and I knew it by heart perfectly, but It was the most embarrassing recital I've ever had, I made so many new mistakes I never had before, and it's like my hands forgot the piece during my playing. Since that experience I've wanted to get back at playing real pianos... So I'm checking a lot of stuff about them, this videos you have are really good content, if fact all of your videos are extremely appreciated, incredibly fun and useful. Also, I'm sorry for writing such a long uninteresting comment 😅
They say my piano is out of tune. Yet, when I play it sounds in tune. My friend said if I didn’t make so many mistakes I would also hear that my piano was out of tune.
If the action hasn't been adjusted, it should be mechanically same. But it definitely changes the way the keys feel, because you are getting different sound for same touch.
It's only 4 months, so if you don't compare side by side, you may not even notice. It gets worse from here :) I personally like crisp/clear sound, but some music, especially jazz, sound good with a bit out of tune piano, too.
And that is why I own a high-end digital piano with full length keys and a weighted graded hammer action. It's always in tune... and I can change the tuning, octave spread, temperament, etc.
That is indeed an advantage of keyboards. But even though I have to deal with tuning and maintenance, I still prefer (and almost exclusively play) pianos. There is so much more acoustic pianos offer, and tuning and other imperfection is also a part of the art. If I get a chance, I want to make a video comparing a piano and a keyboard.
@@AkiraIkegamiChannel i have 24/7/365 access to a Yamaha C5. But thankfully, I'm not responsible for its tuning and regulation. Also, i don't have a "keyboard." I have a Kawai CA99. In a live context, I'd give the nod to an acoustic grand (especially a dedicated performance instrument that is tuned and regulated constantly.) For recording, I'll take a midi capable division piano and a high end VST piano library, like VSL Synchron, Eberhard day of the week.
I just changed from my CA99 back to an acoustic. There is no comparison, in my opinion. Playing an acoustic is so much more enjoyable. Digitals are great if you don’t have the space/money or need to be able to wear headphones. But it’s a recording of a sound, not an organic sound.
@@guyincognito9698 I record. And you're right, there is no comparison. An acoustic piano is crap for recording... unless you're at Abbey Road Studios with a million dollars worth of vintage mics etc. and a recording engineer wizard. As I alluded to before, on stage (and with a piano tech to constantly tweak it) an acoustic grand easily wins (you couldn't give me an upright)... assuming you only want the sounds of a single piano set up in one way. For recording, especially in a mix, I can't be bothered with the complications and limitations of an acoustic piano. Plus, even a slightly out of tune piano irks me too no end... unless I'm looking for an old west honkey tonk sound. Also, not all piano VST libraries are recorded. Some are physically modeled and afford the ability to tweak things of the fly that would take days to set up in an acoustic piano. Like I said before, I can play the Yamaha C5 at work anytime I like. And I do play it. However, if I had to choose, it would be a good midi digital piano (with a grand like action) and whatever VST libraries I might want to fire up that day.
4:54 F#2 ON MY PIANO SOUNDS VERY OUT OF TUNE BUT THE OBE STRING IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER ONE
I started learning piano over two months ago, and because I cannot hear the difference in any of the before/after tuning in your video, I’m worried I will not learn to play well. Please tell me differentiating pitch develops eventually. 🙁
Don't worry. Hearing the piano being out-of-tune is different from differentiating pitch. The difference is a lot more subtle when the pianos are slightly out of tune compared to the difference of C and G, for example.
Sometimes I even have trouble hearing when other instrumentalists say their instrument is out of pitch.
Before tuning - PLIUUUM
After tuning - PLIIIM
There's beauty in the slight out-tuning of acoustic pianos.
I had a Yamaha of plastic
keys (with counterweights) which sounded more artificial, now I have a Kawai whose sound I like a lot, and it has wooden keys, it also simulates better the counterweights of a real piano. I dream of having a baby grand, even an upright, it's such a different sound.
I can't escape from electric pianos because I live in a flat and I don't want to disturb too much my neighbors/family, but I have the suspicion that it is damaging my hearing.
The more you approach to the median of the max volume the more bright and similar to real piano it becomes.
I noticed the action of the real pianos are much harder.
Here's a personal story, somehow by being unused to playing them for a long time, when I had a surprise recital this year and because they didn't allow for any practice, my hands got stuck many times during the performance. I played fantasie impromptu which I learned a couple months before and I knew it by heart perfectly, but It was the most embarrassing recital I've ever had, I made so many new mistakes I never had before, and it's like my hands forgot the piece during my playing. Since that experience I've wanted to get back at playing real pianos... So I'm checking a lot of stuff about them, this videos you have are really good content, if fact all of your videos are extremely appreciated, incredibly fun and useful.
Also, I'm sorry for writing such a long uninteresting comment 😅
Thank you for sharing your story.
I've recorded Fantasie-Impromptu, so the video will be released soon.
First time the sound is reverberating and second time it's more distinct, sharper and more grounded. 😊
Yes! That's s great way to put it.
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@@AkiraIkegamiChannel oh, thats cool
They say my piano is out of tune. Yet, when I play it sounds in tune. My friend said if I didn’t make so many mistakes I would also hear that my piano was out of tune.
You may find an answer to why sometimes people don't hear how out of tune their pianos are in the next video. Stay tuned :)
@@AkiraIkegamiChannel stay tuned 😂 thanks Akira
I always find that the keys feel ‘bouncier’ after a tuning, even though nothing else has been done to the piano.
If the action hasn't been adjusted, it should be mechanically same. But it definitely changes the way the keys feel, because you are getting different sound for same touch.
Yes I hear the difference, but I own an electric keyboard piano !
That's one good thing about electric instruments!
To me, the out of tune piano doesn't sound that bad, just different.
It's only 4 months, so if you don't compare side by side, you may not even notice. It gets worse from here :)
I personally like crisp/clear sound, but some music, especially jazz, sound good with a bit out of tune piano, too.
And that is why I own a high-end digital piano with full length keys and a weighted graded hammer action. It's always in tune... and I can change the tuning, octave spread, temperament, etc.
That is indeed an advantage of keyboards. But even though I have to deal with tuning and maintenance, I still prefer (and almost exclusively play) pianos. There is so much more acoustic pianos offer, and tuning and other imperfection is also a part of the art.
If I get a chance, I want to make a video comparing a piano and a keyboard.
@@AkiraIkegamiChannel i have 24/7/365 access to a Yamaha C5. But thankfully, I'm not responsible for its tuning and regulation. Also, i don't have a "keyboard." I have a Kawai CA99. In a live context, I'd give the nod to an acoustic grand (especially a dedicated performance instrument that is tuned and regulated constantly.) For recording, I'll take a midi capable division piano and a high end VST piano library, like VSL Synchron, Eberhard day of the week.
I just changed from my CA99 back to an acoustic. There is no comparison, in my opinion. Playing an acoustic is so much more enjoyable. Digitals are great if you don’t have the space/money or need to be able to wear headphones. But it’s a recording of a sound, not an organic sound.
@@guyincognito9698 I record. And you're right, there is no comparison. An acoustic piano is crap for recording... unless you're at Abbey Road Studios with a million dollars worth of vintage mics etc. and a recording engineer wizard. As I alluded to before, on stage (and with a piano tech to constantly tweak it) an acoustic grand easily wins (you couldn't give me an upright)... assuming you only want the sounds of a single piano set up in one way. For recording, especially in a mix, I can't be bothered with the complications and limitations of an acoustic piano. Plus, even a slightly out of tune piano irks me too no end... unless I'm looking for an old west honkey tonk sound. Also, not all piano VST libraries are recorded. Some are physically modeled and afford the ability to tweak things of the fly that would take days to set up in an acoustic piano. Like I said before, I can play the Yamaha C5 at work anytime I like. And I do play it. However, if I had to choose, it would be a good midi digital piano (with a grand like action) and whatever VST libraries I might want to fire up that day.
@@paullebon323 ok mate. You’re clearly the expert. 👍
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Out of tune sounds old, like it belongs in a cowboy saloon