It's a SAD day for Lexus Fans...
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- #Lexus #V8 #LC500 #lexusRC #RCF
The days of V8 powered sedans and coupes are coming to an end. Lexus is no exception.
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www.autonews.com/sales/bmw-le...
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00:00 - Bye V8
04:18 - BMW, Lexus Heat up
11:12 - Luxury EVs
13:55 - Bye Lexus V8
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Sad day but we have plenty on the used market
Just need those v8 LC500 prices to come down
Sure
@@KirkKreifelsdo you feel the prices will come down now that they're signaling they won't be making any more?
I don’t know what it’s like in your area, but used LCs only come up once in a blue moon for me, and those that do have barely depreciated. With this news, it might even go up 😓
@@hamsterbrigade Not really since it's essentially a halo car, R35 prices never really came down, LFA prices exploded, haven't looked at NSX prices recently.
The LC was already an instant classic. Now watch the values on these machines go up.
They aren't super rare tho so I don't expect them to become unobtainable
Your comment doenst make any sense? @@royshavrick
I m a Lexus guy. Have an LC . Love the car love the V8 🏖️
I think it would’ve been better with v8tt or v6tt!
Congrats, most people that own them do not want to sell them, neither would I if I owned one. Out of all the cars in its class, I would rather drive an LC since I wouldn't ever plan on pushing any sports car to its limit, endangering my life and others.
@@miketwotwentyLC F with a v8 twin turbo or supercharger, weight saving, body kit, etc. was a missed opportunity! Would’ve been expensive but I think it’d be adored. Probably even better than the LFA if we can look past that v10 exhaust note. It would actually compete with the M8, AMG GT, and 911s
@@stocksxbondage It was too heavy sadly and then you have COVID.
@@miketwotwenty there were always rumors of a LC R with a tt v8, but they never actually sold it.
RIP LC, the most beautiful thing Lexus has ever produced.
so far.. let's see what's cooking! :)
@lvpvs23 ah, right. Totally forgot about the future.
Sad indeed. I'll miss the V8 Engines in general.
Thanks Kirk.
…and this is why I busted my butt to get the IS500! I didn’t want anything turbo’ed or electrified and knew this VeeeEighty goodness (in a new vehicle) was on the decline.
IS500 great entry into the 2URGSE and good weight also.
Love my 22' IS500 iridium, see ya on down the road.....
I can see it in your pfp. Beautiful car!
I love my IS500 but would like to pick up a LC500 in a few years. I'll keep both alive as long as I can! :P
@@spdlmt307 LOL! Amen!
Thanks for the update, Kirk. We knew this day was coming, eventually. I’m glad I got my 2021 LC500c. I’m going to keep this vehicle for a very long time. Nothing like it on the road. Extremely unique, drop dead gorgeous, quick, and very reliable.
Same here, 2021 LC500c with 10,000km (6,000miles) so far. Excited to see what’ll happen in its market now
The LC500 is currently my "modern" dream car so i hope to get one in the future
Same here. But probably not for 10 years or more 💀
It will be funny if manufacturers actually switch back from EV to ICE technology
That’s not necessarily reality in European countries. Norway has the most electric cars. Eventually, EVs will be the future since it already is.
@@blackgold754 But here in the US, it's a different story due to massive cities. I don't see EVs going away in the US, but they're definitely not the saving grace that these EV fanatics think they are. Even if we had the charging infrastructure along the highways of the US and other roadways, charging is an absolute nightmare in cities like New York and Chicago where the population of people surpasses the amount of cars on the road. Just imagine the cost of living if half the people in an apartment building owned an EV let alone if there's a charger available for everyone which in itself is impossible. EVs as the only solution to this going green approach is just simply unrealistic in the US. In fact, it's not even the only solution for the entire world.
@@fenrirslip It is a realistic solution. I disagree that cost of living would skyrocket if everybody owned EVs because gas cars were once a luxury too for those who could afford it and eventually, everybody too started having gas cars. Ev infrastructures does not simply include charging infrastructures like charging stations all over the place. It also involves creating of new batteries like solid state batteries that is actually resistant to flames or explosion of it were to interact with oxygen. Additionally, we will also have wireless charging infrastructure and fast charging car. We already live in a world where people have to wait in lines for minutes and even hours just to fill up their gas!
Human beings aren’t exactly monoliths. Not everybody is going to run of if battery in their cars at the same time. There is a proper time and schedule to how people charge their cars.
For example there are car manufacturers who can make affordable EVs like Hyundai ioniq 6 Se long range trim so when you they make more EVs available the parts become common and thus insurance too will cool off for EV consumers. Besides whether it’s EV or not, the cost of living is already high in major cities. Sure, we don’t have to make start with the cities, but other areas like in towns, neighborhood, and country could definitely benefit a lot with EVe as R&D progresses in future along with public transportations.
Not happening my man. At this point it’s old tech on its way out rather you like it or not!
@@blackgold754Depends on who wins the US Election. If Trump wins then gas cars will stay. If Democrats win then EVs will take over. Toyota and BMW also have stated EVs are not sustainable as a complete solution over ICE. Hydrogen will most likely take over both in the future tbh.
It is sad the LC/LC500 (the real Mk.V Supra) is starting its swan song. What an awesome car!
How on earth are any of the Lexus V8 cars “the real mk5 supra”? The only thing they have in common is a front-engined/RWD drivetrain. The b58 supra is a MUCH more realistic successor to the MK4 as it weighs about the same, has a very similar drivetrain/powertrain, & similar dimensions.
@@CarsOverPeople That BMW has more in common with the old clown shoe, just badge swapped with a stiff suspension for a cheap cope nostalgia cash grab.
The LC cars are made by Toyota from the ground up and are the real 2+2 touring sports car Supra successors.
@@anydaynow01 The issue with that logic ( and im a Lexus hyper fan ) is the LC is the slowest Lexus current performance variant due to its weight. It would not be the ethos of a Supra to have a chassis based of an LS to be a new Supra. To even compare it to the Supra chassis weight-wise is ...and I say this as a Lexus fan....just not acknowledging physics. The MK5 Supra Chassis is by far better for what a modern-day Supra needs to be. Weight is king. There would be no MK5 Supra without BMW so we need to celebrate those wins. Even an RCF TE at nearly 500 lbs lighter than a fully loaded LC wouldn't quite fit the bill for a Supra. The Supra a modern Supra...needs to be light and a sports car. Toyota achieved that with a highly tunable, light weight sports car that makes great power and handles well along with being faster than nearly everything in its class.
@@anydaynow01
I used to be a hater of the new supra too when they first came out. I didn’t like the exterior design & the fact that it wasn’t fully made by Toyota. Then I saw one in person & did some research on it & found out that it’s basically the best option we had for a new supra. BMW engines aren’t all bad/unreliable; the b58 is one of BMW’s best engines (& apparently, Toyota made some changes to it to make it even more reliable).
@@CarsOverPeople If you think about the financial situations of Toyota, the J29 Supra makes a lot of sense. Toyota would never tolerate a car with a huge loss for its portfolio. This car will be always hated by a handful of people, but carrying on the Supra nameplate like this is pretty sensible.
As a Acura salesman i had my personal best month in march. But a terrible January and February and have not sold anything yet in April. 😅 kinda worried, news of the new mdx refresh really hurt us I think…
Hope things get better for Acura, I have already sold two zdx. Just waiting for them to arrive.
It is indeed a sad day for the LC500 fans. I hope they keep the LC for another two years in the US! This decision does make sense, shifting all the inventories to the markets where there are demands.
Crazy I very rarely see this vehicle on the road, and I just saw one hours ago, then come home and this video is in my suggestions...
The LC500 is my dream car 😢
Glad I got in, bought a 13 IS F in USB from my close friend two months ago, I love the car! It’s got Hayward and Scott exhaust on swift springs 64k on the clock!
What's there to be sad about? The people in that area are not buying V8's. Once it's gone, they'll really bitch piss whine, but still won't buy one when they had the chance.
Agreed
A few of us in Europe have a love of the NA V8, but since Lexus caved in to the loud minority and put a fat ugly ipad on the otherwise beautiful dash, the new model is undesirable anyway. BTW I have a 2018 model, looking forward to the value rising soon.
@HarryBaalzach People with M3's, M4's, M5's in Europe etc., are not complaining about gas, either. They want a faster car. Simple as that.
@@USMC_LAterZ Those who want a disposable characterless box with an unusable overpowered engine designed for power at the expense of reliability are welcome to do that. If you’re so shallow you’ll put performance numbers ahead of comfort, quality and form you deserve to spend huge amounts of time waiting for repairs.
@@HarryBaalzach I love V8 BMW's, just telling you the truth that that's want Europeans want, not the other way around. Shallow? Hardly LOL.
Kirk, Our European cousins will have to console themselves with the GR Yaris and Corolla Touring Sports. 😥 In regard to Lexus sales, I am confident they would break records every year if
you were still selling for them. 😉😉
What’s sad is we can’t afford them while they are available.
Thanks Kirk
Love my infrared LC with the perf. package. Get one while you still can, you'll love it!
I see LC500 as one of the best engineered and sounding car that Toyota and Lexus has ever put out(of course besides LFA). As a person who owns a 22 MKV GR Supra and have driven LC500, I feel MKV is a good sports/GT car true to its lineage. Sure you are not going to get pure Japanese car but the name and the ethos continues with the BMW partnership. I personally always wanted a GTR (R35) but 15 years of production and inflation just made it attainable to only a select people(a brand new GTR in this case) or if you are a collector. A new MKV Supra opens up door for many car enthusiasts who are into modifying their cars and enjoying a light sports car in general. In the end LC500 and Supra are two separate products for different demographics. We should be thankful that in the times that we are living, Toyota is still able to afford and continue a full luxury GT coupe with astonishing V8 in LC500 and MKV Supra with an inline 6 powerhouse. But credit and respect due where it's due, Lexus/Toyota V8 in the LC500 is remarkable and truly unique. Enjoy them while they are still around. I wish I can have them both side by side in my garage in the near future. By the way big fan of your channel and content Kirk! Keep up the good work!
It does not sell at all......complete sales failure.
@@Hannibalmiles8494 disagree. 2nd problem, Lexus has no marketing effort in Europe...., very few dealerships.
@@Hannibalmiles8494 In the UK it did not sell well. It sold well in the US for what it was but hes correct based on the data.
I bought a 2018 LC500 with the V8 and I will never let it go! Love this car.
Great video 👍👍 lc 500 gone so sad
i have lexus LC 500 2022 ... i love it
Waiting on a final edition down here in AU for the LC500 and then ordering a new one for posterity to keep forever.
RIP 2urgse. Will be keeping my RCF as long as possible.
I can see the new LC500 evolving as a TTV6 with All-wheel drive and still maintaining a high quality build and customer satisfaction! The new GX550 has met with some great market reception , this despite its change from a na V8 to that of a TT V6, so there's hope that the LC-styled vehicle remains with us for a very long time indeed!
I still say Lexus should have added an option to the 2UR-GSE with a V35A-FTS and call it a LC400 15k less. That engine would lighten the car, you could chip it making it faster. Sure its not a v8 but its a lost opportunity for Lexus. Id put a diff front and rear clip to differentiate it and leave it at that.
Back when the LC500 first came out I thought they would do something like this to the LC chassis for the Mk.V Supra.
Lighter? Not sure. Lots of extra plumbing and radiators for TTV6
doesnt the hybrid LC use this engine?
@@anydaynow01 even at that time the LC was too heavy to be a Supra ( word was Covid and also leadership was not sold on its weight for a F model release since Yaguchi retried ), so they went all in on the RCF etc. The LC is based off the LS chassis of course which is to be expected. Its chassis makes no sense for a Supra. Not even the RCF TE which is roughly 500 LBS lighter than an LC ( insane when you think of it ) isnt optimal for a modern Supra, the BMW chassis was a better option for the Supra at the time. I love the RCF over the LC but both I believe are reaching their time for a dedicated chassis and certainly a new F complete variant to challenge the M4.
The LC and RC F are being retired, not surprising they both have a V8, and it wasn't like they were big sellers anyway, I thought Lexus was combining the 2 into 1 model with a turbo V6 hybrid setup, is that still happening, or has Lexus given up on the 2 door car market
As someone in the UK with a LC, I don’t understand why they still don’t sell the LC hybrid. They also don’t sell the LS here
Wait, they never sell the LC500h in Europe? That's surprising since it's pretty logical to sell it alongside the regular ole V8 considering the emissions climate there.
@@AbrahamArthemius They did sell it, I have one. They discontinued the RC and LC hybrids.
Is the V8 only disappearing from the UK market? Or from the entire world market?
V8 forever
When I looked under the hood and saw the beautifully sculpted shock tower top on the LC500, my jaw dropped. Much respect from a Ferrari F430 and Aston Martin twin turbo V8 owner.
If we get a Mk. VI Supra sharing a platform with the LFR that just has the N/A V8, or even if it keeps the BMW engine, that'd be pretty sweet. It'd probably look a lot more like the Mk V concept. I'm in the minority of people who actually like the way the Mk. V looks, but the concept looked so much better than what we actually got.
Def not. The current supra took that look and squared it down to fit the body of the current supra. And toyo said they'd more than likely make it a EV if they were to aim to make a mk6 or use mazdas rwd platform and I6 to make it.
Kirk can you try to get an LC Hybrid? I’m genuinely curious since these are rarer and are a reasonable alternative for someone that wants to spend less on gas
what about the LS- will it be discontinued as well within years?
I've gotta build a barndominium here in Texas and put an LC, GSF, and F Type R in it. Long live the V8!
Sigh. Toyota have to start meeting their emissions targets. It's only sensible. Hopefully the US loosen their targets and you get Lexus hybrids...
But Toyota built a V8 hybrid back in 2008 when they had the LS600h at the time. I have no clue why they never brought it back.
@@JokerG16 v8 hybrid is useless .first it does not give a mpg advantage and if its about performance then a v6 hybrid or something makes more sense .
@@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY936. then how come we have cars like the upcoming BMW M5 g60 and C8 e ray
@@jamesabrams3715 those are high end super cars or crazy sports sedans. For them sure but lexus dont focus on high performance .instead they care more about mpg comfort refinement and so on. Every brand does things different
@@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY936. downsizing to turbo 6 cylinders don't give much of an MPG advantage either. and they could've brought back a modernized version of the hybrid V8 tho, obviously.
Less than a year ago I saw plenty of LC500s on car gurus and now there’s only a few and they’ve also gone up in price. With this we can only expect them to go up in price even more.
The great thing about the LC is that the design is timeless. You can put a high performance electric drivetrain in there and still have an amazing car.
That wouldn't be smart cause now u have a possibly 55-6000lbs+ coupe that's over 100k+ that didn't even sell well in its gas model form.
well the only great thing about the LC was the 5.0 V8 lol......
Well that’s very sad. I and many other Lexus freaks loved that car to death. RIP LC500. Thank you for existing and making so many car people happy. May I be able to own one someday.🙏
Wir werden die V8 Motoren missen,aber wir reden hier von Lexus,dem besten Automobil Hersteller der Welt.Was auch kommen wird,es wird das Beste sein.
Kirk. What camera do you use?
M50 for studio. R6 for the field
Thank God. I bought lc500 in 2023. Great car.
Meanwhile GM, Ford & Ram produce 1M+ 10mpg V8 trucks per year...
That's the bitter truth, why the heck foreign car manufacturers mandate to discontinue their v8s, and not America 😡😡
Picked up my V8 IS500 couple weeks ago. Super glad now…..
Also they don’t have an v8 engine in the sedan too.
@@JamesKarne CTS-V if you count Cadillac maybe
And thank God they do. With all this technology, why can’t we find a way to increase efficiency and increase power in V8 motors instead of completely stop production of them? They’ve definitely gotten better over the years, but I’m sure they can get even more efficient if the industry just tried. They put so much R&D into electric vehicles and turbocharged and supercharged small engines, why don’t they do more with the V8s?
Love the stats😊
Isn't the V8 continuing for the IS500 refresh coming up?
My guess is that they will move to the v6 twin turbo out of the new LS500
thank you Tesla is not a luxury brand period. I just got the 2024 ES300h premium + lots of goodies. Triple beams, head up display, power trunk, large screen. Love it
Agreed
We had a 2019 ES300h. It was by far the best Lexus sedan we ever drove. Comfort, Luxury and enough power. Had to sell it due to illness and job loss in 2021. Now have a 200k miles GX470 that's still almost perfect and an ISF that is perfect. Maybe we will add the 2025 ES back to our line up!
@@paulmeglasson1919 Nice line up 👍 I still have my 2015 ES350 with 260k miles and still drives like new. Lexus cars are forever. I used to have bunch of Mercedes models when i was younger but when you get older reliability is more important than looks and status
Luxury for $30k
I'm not sad. I'm glad. I am looking forward to how lexus is going to combat the b58 and zf8 from bmw. Yes, a NA v8 sounds good but that i6 with zf8 is something else for speed and sound. We need these last ICE models to come out soon.
My b58 doesn’t sound anywhere near as good as my LC 500 -
@@naveenthemachine ey, I want competition so we can get better tech for a better price. Even if bmw has better engineering focused on performance, if lexus can bring 80% of it for a fraction of the cost it would be a win. Most Toyota and lexus owners want an A to B car that's reliable and comfortable. Performance is an afterthought, that's why the v6, v8, and their transmissions are so old with little bits of changes.
@@naveenthemachine Keep driving your Kia Carnival
@@naveenthemachine korean fan boy and loser who live in the mom basement . just shut up
I'm hanging on to my RCF until I find the LC500 that I want. Nonetheless, both will be classics like the ISF and GSF. The LRF will be limited production and unaffordable to most...like the LFA was. Once Toyota/Lexus incorporates their solid state battery tech (600+ mile range), then I'll consider an EV.
Oh no! I was about to get my snacks and drinks and buckle in... but not today. After this news, I'm going to crawl back in bed with some Advil and a bottle of vodka.
Heh heh never selling mine.
I'ma buy a lightly used one in the near future.
We all knew this was coming. Lexus was fairly clear from the get-go that the LC was a one-shot that would last for so long. I'm actually surprised it went for that long. I, for one, am happy as I bought one based on that knowledge, certainly hoping it would get up in value once gone. Let's wait and see!
If you're a car guy you definitely have to see the LC500 in person to truly appreciate it. It gives most exotics a run for their money.
Just got mine a month ago. I heard after October 2024 Lexus will not take any ore bespoke builds for LC500.
That cold start sound at the opening is intoxicating. However, could you let it warm up a couple minutes and allow the lubricants to do their job, before blipping the throttle. 😆
How do you know I didn't edit in between start and blip?
The LC is amazing, i love mine
Great news for those who own the LC 500, this is what you need to push the used prices up to the moon.
Didnt they just make the Lc gt3 cup car and they need to sell them right?
Can't deny the performance superiority of EV motor over v8 combustion. Toyota have always surprised us with every new generation of luxury coups, from SC lines to now the LC line, each generation radically different from one another. Don't be surprise that Toyota may be eyeing on the supercar market with another banger.
The RC was to be expected tbh since it is an old platform at this point and Lexus is developing a replacement now.
The LC500 is also a shame (for Europe) since Europe's emissions regulations probably just makes it not feasible anymore.
Im good with the SC 430 Peeble Beach
Would be nice if Lexus puts in their twin turbo v6 with a tuned exhaust as an LC 600
Better than 90% of all U.S. LC509 sales are V8. So I would not expect the dropping up the V8 model here, but the redesigned car to replace it
Americans love their V8s a lot, so that makes sense why NASCAR remain successful, the V8 sound
I’ve been hearing this for years and years and I still don’t believe it
0:23 that 5.0L V8 sound will be missed 😢 I think the V8 sounded the best in the LC 500
What about the is 500?
Rip I'll miss that engine
Guess i gotta pull the trigger getting a RC F before the prices sky rocket.
The LC is a future classic.
How about the IS500?
Why are the in-lines not target? They're also polluters. What then will Porsche, Ferrari, and others do? Will they target the flat-sixers, V12s etc.
It's hard to believe they still make the RC at all
I may not ever buy an LC, due to the $200k sticker price, but it's a damn good car; reliable, (unlike the germans), all electronics work even after 20 years (unlike the germans), the build quality is mint (unlike modern germans), it has a real exhaust (unlike the germans).
LFR is supposed replace the RC and LC500, not the LFA
Coincidentally, l spoke with a LC 500 owner at the pump in Toronto yesterday. He simply raved about it. His previous ride was a hot Jag. Even though the Jag was a bit faster, he loved how stable his Lexus would drive at speed.
As for me, "time marches on". I don't find it these changes disturbing.
Like water, we will find our level...eventually.
why aren't you in the front supporting zelensky corruption?? take that flag off now you piece of sh*t!!! you already lost, quit begging.GTFO of Canada immediately
Is it the f type SVR? 😏
Condolences to my fellow V8 aficionados 😢
LC is just and absolutely gorgeous machine
Good news !
Bring back the twin turbo 2JZ and I’d be content
Will this accelerate the discontinuation of the Supra and GR86 too? 😬
Or the LS?
Hopefully Toyota’s discontinuation of BMW and Subaru.
@@Sibluenot subie but the mk5 is expected to discontinue in 25-26 anyway like it was planned from the get go,unless they made it hybrid cause bmw doesn't plan on discontinuing the engine nor trans till a point in the 2030s.
This is strange, I was under the impression that Toyota was going away from EV’s.
so happy for the LC retirement...now you all can seat back and ask yourselvees why y'all didnt snap them up at its time....i hope they rise in value and leave y'all cry so hard that y'all didnt get one.... what an absolute beauty of a machine the LC500 was😪😩❤❤🩹
Not everyone has an $100k to just snap up a Hot rod lexus coupe
Prices of these models are going to skyrocket
Getting an LC500 if it drains my entire invetment portfolio. I imagine they'll be double in price by 2028 when new cars start giving you tickets as you drive them.
Hmm I wonder if it’ll make my RCF hold its value better now 🤔
Meh, Lexus's inability to permanently fix the Valley Plate/Heat Exchanger issue that plagues their 5.0 V8s is a testament to their intentions with the engine.
Imagine if the LFA replacement has a 4 banger like the new C63.
Well, worse for Mercedes is the G wagon and S class is getting the 4 cylinder because BMWs controversial design caught a lot of attention, Mercedes try to do something to get the talks away from BMW
Price plus 15% today on autotrader.
As long as it is a PHEV or HEV and not a BEV, then we're good.
Those sales numbers are terrible. Why does Lexus even bother in those markets?
Considering how horrid Toyota electic cars are, they will NOT have a future in the US any time soon! And a V6-hybrid sounds like a good option especially considering how expensive gas is getting. I do prefer hybrid V6s to V8s, especially the modern ones. They are way more practical for every day driving!
I wonder if the V8 will live longer in the USA given the popularity of trucks and the fact that Chevy and Ford will be slow to kill them off if they ever do in their trucks? I don’t know but I just don’t see farmer Joe buying an EV truck for his farm work…. I am not a farmer but I dread the day I can no longer have choice in the type of car and also the real mechanical sound it makes.
Neither car was sporty - much like the entire Lexus lineup. Nothing lost for the real auto enthusiast.
I find it ironic that Lexus is planning to go fully electric by 2030 now when the demand for EVs in the US has done a complete 180 for the most part and that other brands are realizing that EVs aren't exactly what they were expecting.
Sad but expected. The RC is so old. And neither of those are "sports cars" as the article suggests lol.
I really hate how manufacturers are pushing EVs. Such a false economy not just financially but ecologically 😡
Price will to the moon 🚀🚀