How to Differentiate j q x, zh ch sh, z c s

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  • @isaaccarranza6846
    @isaaccarranza6846 8 років тому +60

    Wow, this is the best explanation I have found in youtube, your explanation with the table chart made it really clear for me, I wonder why my chinese teachers never used this in class.

  • @magpie16
    @magpie16 6 років тому +14

    wow this has made it so much clearer, I've watched so many videos on this and feel like I'm *finally* beginning to understand - the 9 sounds seem so similar, and yet sound slightly different with different regional accents!

  • @fAEtusDeletus
    @fAEtusDeletus 7 років тому +58

    How I figured out to pronounce them:
    j q x - the tongue is forced at the back of the mouth, in a neutral position
    zh ch sh - the tip of the tongue is pressed on the hard palate of the mouth, near the back of the upper teeth
    z c s - the tip of the tongue is pressed on the back of the bottom teeth
    Hope this information is right and it helps you! :)

    • @Forka137
      @Forka137 6 років тому +13

      i think your descriptions of j,q,x and z,c,s are swapped

    • @quynhong7718
      @quynhong7718 6 років тому

      I agree with you.

    • @ClassicTVMan1981X
      @ClassicTVMan1981X 5 років тому +7

      The initial r- (observe: _rén_ ["person"] and _rì_ ["sun"]) is also pronounced the same as for the zh-, ch- and sh- sounds you describe, with the tip of your tongue being pressed on the hard palate of your mouth near your upper teeth. When you attempt to pronounce the "r" sound this way, it will also have a bit of the French/Portuguese "j" sound (as in _je t'aime_ or _au jus_ ), which is also why, in Wade-Giles, this sound is written as "j."
      The country of Japan got its name from the Wade-Giles romanization of _jih-pen_ (Pinyin: _rìběn_ ), which translates as "origin of the sun." The Japanese people themselves call their country as either "Nihon" or "Nippon" or, occasionally and historically, "Yamato." When the famous explorer Marco Polo asked Chinese officials about the country that became Japan, he pronounced the two characters as "Zipangu" (the golden land) which eventually evolved into the pronunciation of "Japan" we know today.

    • @andik70
      @andik70 Рік тому

      Thanks. How to differentiate though? How would you know where ppl have their tongue

  • @seuny
    @seuny 17 днів тому

    I was struggling with Xue and sheng 学生 especially after saying 是 but i think this explanation as helped to differentiate in not making my Xue sound hard or aspirated so I think of when I say shoe but start really soft and no emphasis on the shhh. Thank you ❤

  • @wuli1212
    @wuli1212 5 років тому +68

    im chinese. and i can not speak it well also. and for me , for 40% chinese peoples can't find the different. for me all the same .LOL. so you dont have to know so deep.

    • @khamphatv3363
      @khamphatv3363 5 років тому +6

      I found that she is instructing different from my Vietnamese teacher taught me . Specifically, z c s the tongue isn't flat like she said. Anyway, I think foreign speakers do not need to be perfect

    • @machentee5942
      @machentee5942 5 років тому +6

      lol i'm Thai and i just start to learn chinese it so difficult to pronounce all of these words and same as you i find all this words sound almost the same but after i saw your comment i feel more comfortable to not sound very correctly.

    • @zibinggu5059
      @zibinggu5059 4 роки тому

      what is taking you so long on the first part of video

    • @minitapsstudio
      @minitapsstudio 4 роки тому +1

      Would I still be understood even if i can't pronounce them perfectly? I'm worried about being misunderstood.

    • @maitrangle7469
      @maitrangle7469 4 роки тому +2

      Oh really ? I already watch so many videos about pronounce X and S. But they taught difference way in each video, so I am very confuse 🤣

  • @buimo9246
    @buimo9246 6 років тому +3

    Your explaination is supper clear and I got all of what you say. Best video I found about these hard sounds. Thanks
    Wishing you all the luck and health

    • @aiboss8117
      @aiboss8117 6 років тому

      Thanh Mơ Bùi Thị khó wua huhu

  • @hkl.r
    @hkl.r 4 роки тому +2

    I have watched many videos but this one explains it best for me! It clears up my confusion and it helps that you're very cheery 😄 Thank you!

  • @FuckYourWars
    @FuckYourWars 6 років тому +2

    This is the best video I have seen on the topic. Woah, I just had an eureka moment in my Chinese studies. Thanks!

  • @susanarey7237
    @susanarey7237 6 років тому +1

    The best explaination I found by the time! I was really in a mess until I found your video. Thaks a lot!

  • @AbcDef-ww2gy
    @AbcDef-ww2gy 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this excellent demonstration and explanation.

  • @joelk.3520
    @joelk.3520 7 років тому +6

    This was exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

  • @krokofantelchkalb
    @krokofantelchkalb Рік тому

    Very helpful explanation. All thumbs up. But i still end up with knots in my tongue.

  • @freddypelo
    @freddypelo 6 років тому

    Very practical and clear approach, Xièxiè.

  • @hugobustamante591
    @hugobustamante591 6 років тому

    Wooow, what an explanation! Amazing! less than 5 min and super clear, I think I finally can pronounce correcly these sounds! Thank you so much!

  • @cherylparkin8094
    @cherylparkin8094 2 роки тому

    Finally I got it, very good teaching. Thank you!

  • @dargon881
    @dargon881 6 років тому +1

    Very good explanation, thank you

  • @hailua2013
    @hailua2013 2 роки тому

    Laoshi, you are super.

  • @jungnanh3596
    @jungnanh3596 3 роки тому +1

    很厲害!有人可以將塞擦音擦音分成硬軟音

  • @elliottrodgers6557
    @elliottrodgers6557 5 років тому +5

    This video just blew my mind

  • @madeline569
    @madeline569 3 роки тому

    Excellent explanation, thanks a lot

  • @user-ki9uu2wj5f
    @user-ki9uu2wj5f 5 років тому +3

    Before watching the video thought she was trying to do math from the title lmao 🤣

  • @yashodayashu9232
    @yashodayashu9232 5 років тому

    Your explanation is good. Now I can able to pronounce clearly

  • @raaly123
    @raaly123 7 років тому

    i know the differences between these but when my chinese learning buddy asked me about it i couldnt explain. this makes a lot of sense. it was very interesting watching the video. thank you! gotta remember this

  • @remitoinfinity
    @remitoinfinity 7 років тому +6

    You should have used the same vowel when exemplifying these sounds!

  • @elenik845
    @elenik845 7 років тому +1

    That has been such an extremely helpful video!

  • @cipriantaoshu
    @cipriantaoshu 2 роки тому

    Very helpful. Thanks!

  • @nattirapp
    @nattirapp 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much! I finally can differentiate ch and sh. :)

  • @lillianwagner536
    @lillianwagner536 7 років тому

    Wow this is so useful. Thanks you so much.

  • @BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot
    @BoopSnootAndTroubleshoot 2 роки тому

    Marvelous work! Thank you :)

  • @sanoberpari6195
    @sanoberpari6195 6 років тому

    Superb

  • @sadafnigar666
    @sadafnigar666 6 років тому

    thanks very nice teacher

  • @ayyappanramasamy3080
    @ayyappanramasamy3080 4 роки тому +1

    Whether Chinese language has "root word" concept, to frame new words from root word, prefix and suffix?
    There is root word concept, in English.
    eg
    re + build = rebuild
    It means, "build again".
    psych + iatry = psychiatry
    It means, "Medical study of mind (psych)"
    psych + o + logy = psychology
    It means, "Study of mind (psych)"

    • @sasino
      @sasino 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, as far as I can tell, there are a myriad of words who start or end with the same character, like the following words relating to electronics all start in 电 (diàn):
      电信 Diànxìn = telecommunications
      电力 Diànlì = electricity
      电台 Diàntái = radio
      电话 Diànhuà = telephone
      电工 Diàngōng = electrician
      电影 Diànyǐng = movie/film
      电车 Diànchē = tram
      电池 Diànchí = battery

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 3 роки тому

    Some one should make a quiz where the student has to try and differentiate which sound is being articulated. I guess that would be the way to go about it.

  • @notchrisine
    @notchrisine 6 років тому +5

    i'm having mandarin test :v good self luck 😂

  • @ctofluv3100
    @ctofluv3100 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much ❤️❤️

  • @helenamedcraft2622
    @helenamedcraft2622 6 років тому

    thank you so very much! Very helpful 👍🏼

  • @noemy1828
    @noemy1828 6 років тому +1

    Thank you ❤️❤️

  • @betweenthelines2189
    @betweenthelines2189 7 років тому

    tks for excellent guide, but its almost impossible for me to prepare my tongue for all of that =))). bet we need time to get used and tons of practice along the lines.

  • @tienailee8646
    @tienailee8646 4 роки тому +1

    1:00

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw 5 років тому

    4:29 hard aspirated soft
    surface
    tip
    flat

  • @tirzaagnesia2444
    @tirzaagnesia2444 5 років тому

    谢谢,你讲的很好。我明白了

  • @jasons6368
    @jasons6368 6 років тому

    Thanks, I needed this.

  • @iswearogodnoonesub
    @iswearogodnoonesub 5 років тому +3

    Vid starts @ 00:54

  • @MatheusLegenda
    @MatheusLegenda 5 років тому

    Thank you. I love this! Subscribing.

  • @AnhMai-bb9ng
    @AnhMai-bb9ng 3 роки тому

    thanks

  • @wonderfulwinnie
    @wonderfulwinnie 4 роки тому

    Would you explain more about the difference between group A and group C ? Are they both flat tongue ? I can't tell the difference about the tongue position in this two group.

    • @nayeelimtiaz7264
      @nayeelimtiaz7264 3 роки тому

      hey did you figure out the answer to your question?

  • @lanphung3529
    @lanphung3529 7 років тому +1

    it is useful thanks

  • @yustikaaudilia4094
    @yustikaaudilia4094 6 років тому +11

    Still difficult to me

    • @bluemin9088
      @bluemin9088 6 років тому +1

      yep, would you mind learning together?

    • @Lypno
      @Lypno 3 роки тому

      Train yourself

  • @melaniemaiza7326
    @melaniemaiza7326 5 років тому

    谢谢

  • @fitrarahmadi
    @fitrarahmadi 3 роки тому

    Yeah after all,its hard to make different when their in a sentences

  • @tienailee8646
    @tienailee8646 4 роки тому

    0:57

  • @kangemanmaipmokiuah226
    @kangemanmaipmokiuah226 7 років тому

    2weeks i am working on it but its still hard,
    be cameing here i can at least making few difference ....

  • @tienailee8646
    @tienailee8646 4 роки тому

    1:02

  • @jungnanh3596
    @jungnanh3596 3 роки тому

    zhchsh ,似無retroflex

  • @jjwe5094
    @jjwe5094 6 років тому +1

    S is soft? My gosh

  • @maxiyz
    @maxiyz 5 років тому

    Xiexie laoshi very much

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw 5 років тому

    00:55

  • @dagdet
    @dagdet 7 років тому

    oh, thank you so much, soo helpful
    this exellently explains the difference, which my chinese freind couldn't do

  • @rothschildianum
    @rothschildianum 11 місяців тому

    Nine nasty sounds from HELL!

  • @adibahimika6612
    @adibahimika6612 6 років тому

    Still can’t figure out how to pronounce c and s !!!!

  • @najdahnajib7168
    @najdahnajib7168 4 роки тому

    Susah doo 😢😢

  • @aipingdong7706
    @aipingdong7706 8 місяців тому

    Not helpful at all! As mandarin teacher myself I know my students can pronounce them correctly the only things that confuse them are they have trouble telling j and Zh, q and ch x and sh apart! Especially the first 2 pairs!

  • @woonyoron
    @woonyoron 6 років тому +2

    This is bad teaching, Her j & x pronunciation is not standard, and the distinction made is also meaningless.

  • @phongthy431
    @phongthy431 3 роки тому

    Omg.

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw 5 років тому

    0:55