The RX 6600 is the BEST Budget GPU in 2024

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  • For 1080p gaming, The AMD RX 6600 8GB is the best-value GPU at around $200 new. Let's find out how well it games at both 1080p and 1440p!
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  • @jenieaditya
    @jenieaditya 4 місяці тому +40

    i'm using it !! paired with r5 3600 and a B450, 16 gig of RAMs, and 1080p monitor.. this combo is a bang for a buck in 2020-ish and still running smooth as my daily gear 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @heliosaiden
      @heliosaiden 3 місяці тому +4

      damn, I'm rocking that exact combo but with Rx 6600XT variant instead. For my 1st pc build, it is solid af

    • @legobrixz
      @legobrixz 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm running it with 32 gigs of ram

    • @GatoRudeman
      @GatoRudeman 3 місяці тому +2

      Pretty much my setup. Solid budget beast.

    • @Burago2k
      @Burago2k 3 місяці тому +2

      the rx 6600 came out in october 2021, so not 2020ish but its true that its amazing.

    • @marcingrzebalski103
      @marcingrzebalski103 2 місяці тому +1

      Which budget CPU do u recommend to this videocard, something better than ryzen 5 3600 but still low budget?

  • @imsane2319
    @imsane2319 4 місяці тому +15

    Got mine for $140 used, slapped it in a sff build connected to a 4k tv. Runs some newer games at 1440/60fps and older games at 4k/60fps low-medium-high mix with FSR if available. Runs like a champ with only 100w of consumption

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +3

      That's one thing which surprised me about it. It's very efficient as mine only used around 100W too.

  • @redmanjones362
    @redmanjones362 4 місяці тому +4

    Keep up the content! I love your progression!

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you man! I appreciate your constant support.

  • @519achilles
    @519achilles 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video and really helpful to me. I am looking for a budget GPU and I am really considering 6600, especially comparing to 7600 who is 80-100 euros more expensive.
    Do you think it will pair good to ryzen 5 7600, because my budget is a bit tight or should I spend more because 6600 is a waste of time.

  • @ChipmunkPCTech
    @ChipmunkPCTech 4 місяці тому +2

    Great vid, I just picked up that same msi mech rx 6600 for $120 on my local facebook marketplace. It's definitely a great card still, and I'm looking forward to using it in an upcoming build!

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      Best of luck with your build! $120 is an awesome deal for an RX 6600 too, nice find.

  • @phantombrain9651
    @phantombrain9651 4 місяці тому +5

    RX 6600 powercolor. Playing right now Cyberpunk on 1080p all high settings wihout fsr and rt. 60 fps, sometimes drops to 55-58.

  • @rattlehead-he6mp
    @rattlehead-he6mp 3 місяці тому +1

    I traded in an i7 4790k and an rx 580 and got that exact card for the total sum of £30. It's now teamed up with a gigabyte b550m board 32gb Corsair lpx ram and a Ryzen 7 5700x. For me its a great budget build.

  • @NexusFantismo
    @NexusFantismo 4 місяці тому +7

    Got mine for $120 used on Offer Up here in the USA. My situation is a bit unorthodox though. My monitor is 3440x1440 so I am asking it to punch well above its weight class. I am still able to play Cyberpunk 2077 at native res and medium settings....although I do have to enable FSR to make the framerate manageable. Other games I like have no problem with it at native res though.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      $120 on an RX 6600 is an awesome deal mate! Have fun gaming!

    • @tytytut435
      @tytytut435 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm getting the same monitor and gpu setup as yours, does it run stable 60fps? Also have you tried afmf on high setting or better yet fsr 3 mod on ultra with frame-gen?

  • @ovemalmstrom7428
    @ovemalmstrom7428 4 місяці тому +19

    The rx 6600, rx 6650 xt and the Arc A580, A750 is my favorit budget options under and around 200$ mark, depending on what you want to do besides gaming.

    • @bryndyn123
      @bryndyn123 3 місяці тому +2

      I have used the A750 and the A580 I like both of these cards they're pretty amazing for the price. And I have an white Rx 6600 coming in as well for a friend Can't wait to try it out

    • @519achilles
      @519achilles 3 місяці тому

      @@bryndyn123 I read almost everywhere that Intel GPUs still have issues with drivers and different games and they aren't good choice for non IT users. Isn't that the case?

    • @bryndyn123
      @bryndyn123 2 місяці тому

      @@519achilles yeah because they're still catching up with their drivers and most games I tried to play an old game like sonic all stars racing and it didn't come out right at all other than that they were fine

    • @fubkegt4964
      @fubkegt4964 2 місяці тому

      What about 300€. Can you suggest some please because im trying to find parts for my first pc and i want best gpu for my budget. Mostly for playing games (competitive/fps) but i also love to do anime/comics edits. as a research I try to get information from people who might know something about it(though many of them haven't responded to me) or i just watch videos like this but the more i watch the more confused i get because of these matching names and benchmarks.

    • @fatidicusaeternus6498
      @fatidicusaeternus6498 2 місяці тому

      @@fubkegt4964 If you can still find a 6700xt/6750xt around that price, it's the best buy. Then probably the 7600xt. The 3060 or 4060 are not terrible, but that price range is not great at the moment. It really depends on what the current pricing is in your area.

  • @chase7974
    @chase7974 4 місяці тому +7

    Basically you're getting 3060 level performance for a lot cheaper. You can also overclock to get it closer to the 3060.

    • @ares23dc
      @ares23dc 4 місяці тому

      3060 is much better

    • @chase7974
      @chase7974 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ares23dc Like 5% on average, you can easily pass the gap by overclocking the Rx 6600.
      Just shows you how bad Nvidias budget GPUs are today.

    • @ares23dc
      @ares23dc 4 місяці тому

      @@chase7974 RTX 4060 is similar to RTX 2080. And RX6600 looks like a younger retarded brother compared to RTX 2080. I like the fact that you regurgitate AMD's marketing division.

    • @morgueblack
      @morgueblack 3 місяці тому +5

      Nvidia sucks balls in the entry - mid-range level. Almost zero price-to-performance value whatsoever.

    • @519achilles
      @519achilles 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ares23dc and costs 100 euros more, so 33% more for how much more performance do you get?

  • @Forestwidow
    @Forestwidow 3 місяці тому +1

    the pc i'm getting for a relative needs a pc for WoW so nice to know this is a decent gpu for the budget they dont play anything but WoW and this should do the job from what they are using now

  • @roythunderplump
    @roythunderplump 4 місяці тому +2

    Wish there was more new models below £200 available when compared to the USA market.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      I believe items in the US aren't displayed with VAT unlike in the UK. So it probably evens out. But the best budget RX 6600 card to look out for is the Powercolor Fighter. I have the 6700 XT model and it's great.

  • @teboho_26
    @teboho_26 4 місяці тому +5

    Thinking of building a pc soon with this card in mind, specifically the RX6600M found in China. Hard time deciding between it and the Rx5700xt but I'm leaning towards the 6600M for the efficiency. Which(efficiency) is crazy.

    • @Stucker031
      @Stucker031 4 місяці тому

      Tech Yes City did a review of the6600m.
      ua-cam.com/video/1KHXR0mqLdo/v-deo.html

    • @oagilenamoshe1831
      @oagilenamoshe1831 4 місяці тому

      Ive just finished my build... Got myself a low end card to get off the ground... Btw I'm only responding because I think you're from RSA... I'm next door in BW.

    • @oagilenamoshe1831
      @oagilenamoshe1831 4 місяці тому

      Personally Im thinking A750 reference model. Only because I love the look of the card

    • @teboho_26
      @teboho_26 4 місяці тому +1

      @@oagilenamoshe1831 😂😂😂 I'm actually further, Lesotho. I started low too. Getting through the door is most important.

    • @oagilenamoshe1831
      @oagilenamoshe1831 4 місяці тому

      @@teboho_26 oh Lesotho is basically just here (not really) but hey we're SADC brothers.
      I hear you on getting though the door. I took my time and hey it paid off... I'm finally gonna do my first true boot today. Still on the fence about OS... I'm leaning toward Linux over Windows 11. (Might just do a dual boot system)

  • @bawarmohamed1209
    @bawarmohamed1209 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice work bro

  • @juanx95100
    @juanx95100 2 місяці тому

    I got the same model refurbished a week ago and it runs really smooth paired with my r5 5600, truly a comfortable option to sit on for a couple of years

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  2 місяці тому +2

      Nice pickup mate, nice pairing with the Ryzen 5 5600 too! Have fun gaming

  • @franzaspiras1388
    @franzaspiras1388 4 місяці тому +3

    i have the same gpu mate (rx6600 asrock) i bought it around 10,500php (186usd) its really is a awesome gpu paired with a r5 3600 + 16gb ram . the only problem that i see is the encoder on streaming , its not that good. but if i dont stream i have 200+ fps on valorant (all low settings and 1080p)

    • @user-zw1oy5pm3s
      @user-zw1oy5pm3s 4 місяці тому +1

      you can stream but not action games =-)
      i too have rx6600 asrok and 5600 =-)

    • @denniscaylorboc2342
      @denniscaylorboc2342 Місяць тому

      where did u bought that asrock rx 6600?

    • @franzaspiras1388
      @franzaspiras1388 Місяць тому

      @@denniscaylorboc2342 easy pc on shopee Philippines

  • @lanespane3001
    @lanespane3001 4 місяці тому +4

    I have a 6600xt, and its REALLY good for 1080p gaming, i run everything smoothly, no problems ever, i even play forza horizon 4 on 4k at about 120fps wince thats a very optimized game, the only sad thing is that i overpaid for it, not that much tho but still couldve bought a 6700xt in normal prices

    • @mixit2413
      @mixit2413 4 місяці тому

      pretty much the same for me but when i bought the 6600xt i wanted the 6700xt but at the time it was still £750+ were as I got the 6600xt than at £440but that was over 2 years ago now.

  • @ruancoetzee472
    @ruancoetzee472 4 місяці тому +5

    I picked up a RX6600 8GB XFX Swift 210 version and the value is most definitely there especially in esport titles such as Apex Legends and Fortnite where you can get a competitive experience depending on the cpu pairing

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +2

      If you pair this GPU with a good CPU even something as low end as the 12100F, and you're having a great eSports gaming experience!

  • @VincentAmadeus
    @VincentAmadeus 4 місяці тому +3

    Xfx rx 6600 paired with my ryzen 5 5500 is good choice? Please help, i just want to play new game like GBF relink and other games like that 🙏🏻

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      Looking at the specs required, you should be good to go.

    • @VincentAmadeus
      @VincentAmadeus 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ProYamYamPC thx man

    • @himanshumaurya428
      @himanshumaurya428 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@VincentAmadeusyes I have the same specs it's really great.

  • @jamesbp
    @jamesbp 4 місяці тому +3

    Cool channel mate

  • @namnguyentran2285
    @namnguyentran2285 4 місяці тому

    Please I have a question. Can i playing lol 120fps and do some 3D programs stuff like revit with your exactly set up? There is a local store selling the pre built and i dont know how it may perform 😂

    • @chumtoad14
      @chumtoad14 4 місяці тому +1

      for league of legends I think it will run it with ease

    • @sashamorozov581
      @sashamorozov581 3 місяці тому

      It will run league way above 300fps

    • @UmbrellaSound
      @UmbrellaSound Місяць тому

      For 3d render it's not the best but lol will run with a lot more fps😂

  • @UmbrellaSound
    @UmbrellaSound Місяць тому

    Just got myself white Asrock version. Great little bugger(well not that little its quite long 😂) I mostly play fighting games, it runs tekken 8 effortlessly stable 60 fps on ultra settings. Power draw barely higher than 90w under load. Really efficient, didnt expect it from AMD.

  • @isoladellerosetv
    @isoladellerosetv 4 місяці тому

    Is it good for 1080p 50fps gameplay record on obs?

    • @COZYLo-FiAndChill
      @COZYLo-FiAndChill 2 місяці тому +1

      Yea i got more frames (60-75) whilst streaming, just tone down a few settings in game for best performance

    • @isoladellerosetv
      @isoladellerosetv 2 місяці тому

      @@COZYLo-FiAndChill Thank you :)

  • @RanizmTheRealest
    @RanizmTheRealest 2 місяці тому

    I use it in all my budget builds 🤙🏼

  • @DarkPriest-rx7tw
    @DarkPriest-rx7tw 4 місяці тому +1

    In Bulgaria, a friend picked up a Gigabyte Eagle PX 6600 with three fans, factory overclocked for 220€, which makes it almost equal to the 3060. As a cost per frame , maybe only the RX 7800XT (for 500€ if you can find it now) is better. Nvidia's prices here in Bulgaria are simply insane.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому

      Nvidia's prices are insane in most countries so I can imagine how bad they are whre you live. Luckily, it looks like AMD is making Nvidia think twice about pricing.

  • @SL4PSH0CK
    @SL4PSH0CK Місяць тому

    RX6600 gotta be the ultimate budget 1080 card, its a shining beacon here in asia

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  Місяць тому

      Thats great to hear that its value is great over there too! Excellent 1080p card

  • @99999orhan
    @99999orhan 4 місяці тому

    Turn on fluid motion frames it double your fps

  • @Rivet387
    @Rivet387 4 місяці тому +1

    Im buyng this gpu this month mo matter wat

  • @HuntaKiller91
    @HuntaKiller91 4 місяці тому

    Imagine we get this kinda performance by 2026 in steamdeck2 igpu
    Raster shud be ez for 800p gaming

  • @adlibconstitution1609
    @adlibconstitution1609 4 місяці тому +1

    In my country rtx 3070 is 250usd used while rx 6600 is 200usd used. Which is better?

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому

      It’s worth getting the 3070 imo. It’s substantially more powerful than an RX 6600. Definitely worth the extra $50.

    • @adlibconstitution1609
      @adlibconstitution1609 4 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC I made a mistake it is 200usd for rx6600 and 250usd for 3070

  • @soumyadey8522
    @soumyadey8522 2 місяці тому

    I'm thinking to buy this graphic card gonna pair this with 5600x ty for video appreciate it😊

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  2 місяці тому

      You're welcome! I think that will be a brilliant pairing!

  • @apollosophy24
    @apollosophy24 3 місяці тому

    Is it gonna crash in davinci or premiere or after effects ? Can anyone pls answer?

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  3 місяці тому

      I wouldn’t use an AMD card for video editing. CUDA acceleration on Nvidia cards is just better. Also Intel Arc GPUs are very good with video editing

    • @apollosophy24
      @apollosophy24 3 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC arc a750 is the way to go only the max power consumption is way too high ....... Should wait for next gen arc then

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  3 місяці тому

      @@apollosophy24 to be fair, if you need it for work. You don’t have the luxury of waiting for the next generation

  • @sebastian_hakansson78
    @sebastian_hakansson78 2 місяці тому

    Great card! Enough for me.. Works fine with pci-e 3.0 without rebar to on a old 1155 mb.. Not much performance loss. In Linux to! 1080p max is just fine in most games I want to play. Don't read to much into the hype of "needing" all new parts!

  • @DogeFifa
    @DogeFifa 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a question is the 1650 decent since im pretty poor will it be decent

    • @sevantofra
      @sevantofra 4 місяці тому

      It can be, it really depends on the game. 4gb of ram limits your detail settings. I used the ddr6 version of it for 2 years before upgrading to my 3060. It was still an enjoyable experience. The 3050 6gb is coming. It gets a lot of hate for its cut down specs but is better than the 1650 and will be about 179$ and still plug in and go no power cable needed and that extra 50% of vram can't hurt.

    • @DogeFifa
      @DogeFifa 4 місяці тому

      @@sevantofra but is the rx 580 reliable for me since it has 8gb of vram

    • @sevantofra
      @sevantofra 4 місяці тому

      yes, the 580 is better than the 1650 by about 20%.
      @@DogeFifa

    • @endless2239
      @endless2239 4 місяці тому

      @@DogeFifa The RX 580 is better than the GTX 1650 in performance, but it requires a better PSU which adds to the cost, and will need 3rd party drivers probably

    • @DogeFifa
      @DogeFifa 4 місяці тому

      @@endless2239 is it worth it to get a 80plus gold psu

  • @skivvywaver
    @skivvywaver 2 місяці тому

    It's okay but lacking in vram. If you can find a 6700 non XT you'd be much better off. I want a 6700XT, I bought a 6700. 10 gigs of vram. I am at 1080p so it's fine. I haven't had a memory issue yet. My R580 did have a few insufficient memory warnings. It still worked, it just complained.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  2 місяці тому +1

      To be honest, for rasterised 1080p, 8GB is fine for now. The only time this can be an issue is if the developer hasn't optimised their game properly.

    • @skivvywaver
      @skivvywaver 2 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC The game that was spitting out the warning was Forza Horizon 5. It is a pretty well optimized game. I did have it turned up to pretty high settings. Like I said, it still played but complained once in a while.

  • @tharimoose
    @tharimoose 4 місяці тому +1

    You can enable ray tracing in Forza Horizon 5 and get above 60
    Also test AFMF with this

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому

      Ray tracing in Forza Horizon 5 is only in Forza Vista. So it won't impact normal gameplay. I am planning to test AFMF too, I'm decidint to test on the RX 6600 or my 6700 XT.

    • @tharimoose
      @tharimoose 4 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC Extreme preset applys to free roam too, I run Extreme without any issues

  • @LowQualitty
    @LowQualitty 3 місяці тому

    Buying this card. I am on a TIGHT budget so I think this is worth the R3200 ($168), used.

  • @ovemalmstrom7428
    @ovemalmstrom7428 4 місяці тому +1

    And dont forget the rx 5700 xt, great price to performance.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      100%! It's a great GPU and I plan to get my hands on one at somepoint this year.

    • @marcingrzebalski103
      @marcingrzebalski103 2 місяці тому

      Is IT better than RX 6600?

  • @iammeatyjuggernaut1245
    @iammeatyjuggernaut1245 3 місяці тому

    its super cheap atm for its specs just replaced my old gtx 1060 super and it was great upgrade

  • @Manemlp
    @Manemlp 3 місяці тому

    I bought my rx 6600 in november last year and its been great, until today i noticed buzzing sound coming from it and im not fond of it

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  3 місяці тому

      Does the buzzing occur when you're getting relatively high frame rates?

    • @Manemlp
      @Manemlp 3 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC in beamng it dosent buzz as much, but in tf2 msin menu, buzzes alot

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  3 місяці тому

      @@Manemlp sounds like coil whine. It’s just annoying, but it doesn’t mean your GPU is defective

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 3 місяці тому

      Which version is it?

    • @Manemlp
      @Manemlp 3 місяці тому

      @@intermilan9731 ASUS Radeon RX 6600 DUAL V2

  • @kvu236
    @kvu236 2 місяці тому

    rtx 2070 super or this ?

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  2 місяці тому

      If they’re the same price, the 2070 Super might be the better bet. It’s got more memory bandwidth and it’s got DLSS and CUDA too

  • @snakeplissken111
    @snakeplissken111 3 місяці тому

    I still have a GTX 1050ti. Partly because most of the games I play don't need much more (at least currently). But partly because I always liked TDP ~70-75W GPUs. The market has never been flooded with those, but they existed. It's maddening to me that AMD's current entry-level 7600 is listed as 165W -- that's the smallest cards of their current line-up they have, and it's moving towards the 200W!
    And the RTX 3050 6GB is bad value if you compare it to the RX 6600 -- and it also shows that there has been little progress been made. It's a good 200%+ faster than the 1050ti at the same peak power draw, alright. But it took almost a decade to get there. 6GB for a new card in 2024 are a no-go anyway.
    Wondering how much you can save with the RX 6600 via power targets and undervolting.

  • @joesmith201212
    @joesmith201212 4 місяці тому

    Greatest budget card ever produced

  • @lozyl956
    @lozyl956 4 місяці тому +1

    AMD products
    Pros: Cheap!
    Cons: Cheap!

  • @frankwalder3608
    @frankwalder3608 6 днів тому

    The RX6600 is useless to me because there are no Windows Server drivers. There are work-arounds to manually install AMD drivers, but there is no support and no guarantee the card will work. So I had to pay $300 to get an Nvidia RTX4060, which has 15 watts less TDP, is 10% faster, and drivers that easily install and work well.

  • @poprostuukasz2242
    @poprostuukasz2242 3 місяці тому

    Guys I'll tell you this. if any card can run CP 2077 in 60 fps it is still a good card and it will most likely run all PROPERLY OPTIMIZED games without any issues. So don't look at stuff like avatar frontiers of pandora, alan wake 2 or the last of us (even though it is indeed better optimized than the previous 2). Because this games really suck when it comes to optimization and they need a lot of fixing...unless they will never get fixed and the devs are just going to say BRO JUST BUY 4090.

  • @topek7921
    @topek7921 2 місяці тому

    I have 2 questions: Will it bottleneck with an i5 8400, and which brand is best for this card - Gigabyte, Sapphire, or another?

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  2 місяці тому

      The 6 threads of the i5 8400 will cause issues in a few games. Generally the best brand for Radeon cards is Sapphire. But this Mech model from MSI is great too

  • @ares23dc
    @ares23dc 4 місяці тому +1

    No it's not.
    RTX 4060 is. Performance per $ is insane.
    A new RX6600 is £200, while RTX4060 is £280. RTX 4060 is in many cases twice the performance.

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому

      Insane is a stretch. I haven’t personally tested one, but I doubt it has better performance per $ than an RX 6600

    • @DarkPriest-rx7tw
      @DarkPriest-rx7tw 4 місяці тому

      Wow, £260 for a 4060 is a great deal. I was 2 weeks ago in the UK, I didn't see anything like this anywhere, I specifically checked the hardware prices there. For information, in our country (Bulgaria), the prices of the 4060 start at €350. A few days ago a friend picked up a Gigabyte Eagle RX 6600 with three fans, factory overclocked for 220 €, which makes it almost equal to the RTX 3060. I got the RX 7800XT in December on Black Friday for 480 €, currently prices start at 580 € . I don't even want to talk about the prices of the new "super" versions of Nvidia's 4000 series, it's so sad, it even makes me laugh. It's complete madness.

    • @ares23dc
      @ares23dc 4 місяці тому

      @@ProYamYamPC There is no insane stretch, All new games use DLSS. With DLSS activated, GTX4060 is 2x RX6600 performance in most new titles, and a lot of old titles already got added DLSS.

    • @ares23dc
      @ares23dc 4 місяці тому

      @@DarkPriest-rx7tw Never said £260. I said £280. Currently £284 triple fan version at Currys.

  • @rappap4703
    @rappap4703 4 місяці тому

    these are not the newest games, games like starfield are much harder to run......

    • @ProYamYamPC
      @ProYamYamPC  4 місяці тому +1

      I stopped testing Starfield because it's a spaghetti code mess. If people want me to start testing it again, I will add ti back to the testing list.

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 3 місяці тому

      thats cuz starfield is a poorly released game. they need to work on it more.