Great vid, goes to the heart of the matter. Mateminco/Astrolux are great lights. Own 5. Been looking at this PD90S real hard, 9300 lumens 924 m throw really grabs your attention. Have to admit the real numbers are a little disappointing. Any company should be embarrassed to deliver a product that’s less than 2/3 of why you bought it. On a larger scale it’s like driving a car that touts 500hp that’s still ‘pretty fast’ at 300hp.
Nice light... but could you imagine how good it would be if it was really 9300 Lumen... I’d be disappointed... that’s an awful lot for the factory to be off on the ratings... I’d like to know what they used to get those numbers... keep up the great work 👍
Thank you. I'm wondering what cells they use to get them numbers and why not ship the battery that produces them numbers, I'm definitely looking for some better batteries for some reason I think this light could hit 7k to 8k even at 5k it's still a beast
I recently got the astrolux version and I'm not disappointed with it. Does drink the battery when it's on turbo but great value for the money. Been using molicel p42 and Samsung 40t and I've found them great
@@smotheredchrome it's a beast but gotta be careful as it gets ridiculously hot. I think a handle us a must. Tho it's apparently 16k lumen some have reported to get closer to 30k with molicel p42a
Probably need something like a Samsung 30T or something. These things really need 4 x 18650 or 3 x 21700. Even 4 x Sofirn 3000mAH cells that come "cheaply" with say a Sofirn Q8 Pro (I got the whole package here in Singapore for just 66 usd shipped) would discharge more current than a good 1 x 21700. Also the springs etc, non-bypassed single spring = no joke. Heck, even on a Q8 Pro, there is an approx 15% difference in output between the Sofirn 3000mAH cells vs Vapcell so-called re-wrapped molicel P26A, not a lot but it's there. edit - same thing with those single cell 21700 4 x XHP 50.2 13-14k lumen lights.
@@smotheredchrome ua-cam.com/video/k0tOjKf2bd8/v-deo.html (ps not me in the vid, i am also not the Haikelite seller on ali or TB, just a consumer here in Singapore). I can definitely confirm that it can hit 6k lumens. Same output as BLF Q8 original, same cells (rewrapped Molicel P26A). Sustained 2 mins here in the tropics (hot!) in Turbo no issue and light body is still very comfy to hold (manufacture claim ~ 3 mins step down from Turbo, in my book that is pretty impressive from efficiency:thermal mass standpoint). 2 mins is around 6000 lumens slide down to ~ 5200 lumens? I am not into lights that can only sustain turbo for 20 seconds, 30 seconds even, even after changing thermal config to max 70 deg C that is the max configurable, heck for my Q8 Pro i even set it to 10 deg C (30 deg C actual) and 70 deg C ceiling. lol So that's like 90 deg C ceiling.
Hello Smothered Chrome, hope you're doing well! I bought the PD90S with a steel bezel on a Black Friday special for $49.38. Although the lumen rating is much lower than claimed, I really like this light. It has a great color tint and the perfect ratio of usable spill and throw. I read that the Chinese LEDs such as the SFH55, which is in this light, may be bright but have a lower efficiency compared to CREE LEDs, producing more heat for the available light output. Anyway, I like this light and would buy it again without hesitation. Thanks for showing us that the type of battery you use makes a big difference and for the great review!
Thank you Poly I appreciate your comment and support 🙏 Honestly I also think it's good CRI and output but runs hot was my issue and way under claimed output other than that I also like and because the pd90s is a bigger light it handles the heat better IMHO.
I'm definitely on the hunt for some, I believe Jackson Lee has Samsung cells but not sure where to get some molicel at, honestly I am thinking about taking some of my Milwaukee battery packs apart I believe they have some Samsung cells.
Congratulations for the video. I am writing to you from Italy, I just got this wonderful light from Banggood, Astrolux Ft 03 S I find it really impressive as a single LED, it has a spectacular beam and throw, as well as a beautiful torch.Listen I am very happy with how it is and how it works but I have only one problem, the torch both on ramp and in steps does not keep in memory the last mode selected..... if I was halfway up the ramp and I turn off the light, with a click the torch starts from the bottom ... second is that a problem for you? or can it be solved? thank you very much 😊 Andre
I wonder what the light temperature is... 6500 K? I cannot find this information anywhere. SFH55 is a rare emitter. From the video I can judge it is over 6000 K but may be mistaken.
For any of you guys into these lower cost/higher lumen/good throwers, can try the Haikelite HT50. Chinese G50 leds, i guess performance cld be same as Osram PM1, which they claim to be even better than Osram, but i guess cld be BS. Regardless, with Vapcell Molicel P26A re-wraps (supposedly, but i have tested them to perform 15% better on a Sofirn Q8 Pro with the included Sofirn 3000 mAH), the lumens output of the Haikelite HT50 is the same as the original BLF Q8. Then for throw, i have a Sofirn Q8 with XP-L2 (supposed to be 100k cd) and the Haikelite is getting 5.3X higher lux figures on the meter, measurement distance 9-10 metres. So, pretty impressive, esp since i got it for just usd 37 shipping included to Singapore. Or put it this way, i can get 1 mil cd with 2 lights with both hands for comfortably below than usd 100, something that i could only do a few years ago with a huge-ass 8 inch reflector 100W ballast modded HID (paper spec, prob they are pushing some 70-80W out only battery/voltage input dependent also) and smaller arc gap 55W bulb, less lumens also etc.
Your video was excellent, thank you very much. I have a ''Sofirn 4000mah li-ion 21700'' battery. Could you tell me if this battery extracts all the power from the AstroLux FT03S? (SFH55 LED)
Thank you. From my experience sofirn batteries are decent and I have had good results from the 21700 4000mah, I'm not sure if you will get max performance, but I can tell you that it will perform well as long as your battery is healthy.
@@smotheredchrome Thanks for the help friend, I'm thinking of getting a Sofirn 21700 3c 5000mah 3.7v 15a high power discharge. Do you think this one will be good? Thanks again.
No problem. IMHO the sofirn batteries are good but if you want a little extra I would look into Samsung batteries and molicel but other than that I have no issues with sofirn batteries. When you are looking for batteries for 5000+ lumens flashlights I look for 25A continuous discharge current batteries.
I believe Jackson Lee Hawaii sells them ,you can find him on eBay JLhawaii I'm not sure if he advertise them but find some of his flashlights he sells and message him about the Samsung batteries
Great vid, goes to the heart of the matter. Mateminco/Astrolux are great lights. Own 5. Been looking at this PD90S real hard, 9300 lumens 924 m throw really grabs your attention. Have to admit the real numbers are a little disappointing. Any company should be embarrassed to deliver a product that’s less than 2/3 of why you bought it. On a larger scale it’s like driving a car that touts 500hp that’s still ‘pretty fast’ at 300hp.
Thank you, Yes I agree but what really was interesting was the extra power out of the 21700 cells vs the 26650
Nice light... but could you imagine how good it would be if it was really 9300 Lumen... I’d be disappointed... that’s an awful lot for the factory to be off on the ratings... I’d like to know what they used to get those numbers... keep up the great work 👍
Thank you. I'm wondering what cells they use to get them numbers and why not ship the battery that produces them numbers, I'm definitely looking for some better batteries for some reason I think this light could hit 7k to 8k even at 5k it's still a beast
I recently got the astrolux version and I'm not disappointed with it. Does drink the battery when it's on turbo but great value for the money. Been using molicel p42 and Samsung 40t and I've found them great
I agree great performance for the money.
@@smotheredchrome have you tried out the astrolux ec06 yet?
No I do not have that yet it is on my to get list
@@smotheredchrome it's a beast but gotta be careful as it gets ridiculously hot. I think a handle us a must. Tho it's apparently 16k lumen some have reported to get closer to 30k with molicel p42a
Wow really 30k, okay I think I'll move that up on the list. Thank you I appreciate your comment and support
Probably need something like a Samsung 30T or something. These things really need 4 x 18650 or 3 x 21700. Even 4 x Sofirn 3000mAH cells that come "cheaply" with say a Sofirn Q8 Pro (I got the whole package here in Singapore for just 66 usd shipped) would discharge more current than a good 1 x 21700. Also the springs etc, non-bypassed single spring = no joke. Heck, even on a Q8 Pro, there is an approx 15% difference in output between the Sofirn 3000mAH cells vs Vapcell so-called re-wrapped molicel P26A, not a lot but it's there.
edit - same thing with those single cell 21700 4 x XHP 50.2 13-14k lumen lights.
Thank you for the info, I'm definitely going to get some Samsung cells
@@smotheredchrome ua-cam.com/video/k0tOjKf2bd8/v-deo.html (ps not me in the vid, i am also not the Haikelite seller on ali or TB, just a consumer here in Singapore). I can definitely confirm that it can hit 6k lumens. Same output as BLF Q8 original, same cells (rewrapped Molicel P26A). Sustained 2 mins here in the tropics (hot!) in Turbo no issue and light body is still very comfy to hold (manufacture claim ~ 3 mins step down from Turbo, in my book that is pretty impressive from efficiency:thermal mass standpoint). 2 mins is around 6000 lumens slide down to ~ 5200 lumens? I am not into lights that can only sustain turbo for 20 seconds, 30 seconds even, even after changing thermal config to max 70 deg C that is the max configurable, heck for my Q8 Pro i even set it to 10 deg C (30 deg C actual) and 70 deg C ceiling. lol So that's like 90 deg C ceiling.
Hello Smothered Chrome, hope you're doing well! I bought the PD90S with a steel bezel on a Black Friday special for $49.38. Although the lumen rating is much lower than claimed, I really like this light. It has a great color tint and the perfect ratio of usable spill and throw. I read that the Chinese LEDs such as the SFH55, which is in this light, may be bright but have a lower efficiency compared to CREE LEDs, producing more heat for the available light output. Anyway, I like this light and would buy it again without hesitation. Thanks for showing us that the type of battery you use makes a big difference and for the great review!
Thank you Poly I appreciate your comment and support 🙏
Honestly I also think it's good CRI and output but runs hot was my issue and way under claimed output other than that I also like and because the pd90s is a bigger light it handles the heat better IMHO.
@@smotheredchrome Yes, we're both in agreement on the pluses and minuses of this light!👍
Thank you my friend I appreciate your comment 🙏
vapcell heas now a 6200mah golden color also - i buyed 2
Try a Molicel p42a or Samsung 40t 21700 in it. You will probably get some extra output. Those 2 21700’s out perform all of my 26650’s by far.
I'm definitely on the hunt for some, I believe Jackson Lee has Samsung cells but not sure where to get some molicel at, honestly I am thinking about taking some of my Milwaukee battery packs apart I believe they have some Samsung cells.
Congratulations for the video. I am writing to you from Italy, I just got this wonderful light from Banggood, Astrolux Ft 03 S I find it really impressive as a single LED, it has a spectacular beam and throw, as well as a beautiful torch.Listen I am very happy with how it is and how it works but I have only one problem, the torch both on ramp and in steps does not keep in memory the last mode selected..... if I was halfway up the ramp and I turn off the light, with a click the torch starts from the bottom ... second is that a problem for you? or can it be solved? thank you very much 😊 Andre
Thank you my friend I appreciate your comment 🙏
From what I remember mine has mode memory, when I get home I will double check.
I wonder what the light temperature is... 6500 K? I cannot find this information anywhere. SFH55 is a rare emitter. From the video I can judge it is over 6000 K but may be mistaken.
Thank you my friend I appreciate your comment 🙏
I will put together a video on that led and check the cct for you.
For any of you guys into these lower cost/higher lumen/good throwers, can try the Haikelite HT50. Chinese G50 leds, i guess performance cld be same as Osram PM1, which they claim to be even better than Osram, but i guess cld be BS. Regardless, with Vapcell Molicel P26A re-wraps (supposedly, but i have tested them to perform 15% better on a Sofirn Q8 Pro with the included Sofirn 3000 mAH), the lumens output of the Haikelite HT50 is the same as the original BLF Q8. Then for throw, i have a Sofirn Q8 with XP-L2 (supposed to be 100k cd) and the Haikelite is getting 5.3X higher lux figures on the meter, measurement distance 9-10 metres. So, pretty impressive, esp since i got it for just usd 37 shipping included to Singapore. Or put it this way, i can get 1 mil cd with 2 lights with both hands for comfortably below than usd 100, something that i could only do a few years ago with a huge-ass 8 inch reflector 100W ballast modded HID (paper spec, prob they are pushing some 70-80W out only battery/voltage input dependent also) and smaller arc gap 55W bulb, less lumens also etc.
The glass is just normal mineral glass. I don't have 72mm diameter AR coated glass, just max 62mm. lol. Might net another 3-4% improvement with that?
Prueba con molicell p45
Thank you I will look into them.
Your video was excellent, thank you very much.
I have a ''Sofirn 4000mah li-ion 21700'' battery. Could you tell me if this battery extracts all the power from the AstroLux FT03S? (SFH55 LED)
Thank you. From my experience sofirn batteries are decent and I have had good results from the 21700 4000mah, I'm not sure if you will get max performance, but I can tell you that it will perform well as long as your battery is healthy.
@@smotheredchrome Thanks for the help friend, I'm thinking of getting a Sofirn 21700 3c 5000mah 3.7v 15a high power discharge.
Do you think this one will be good?
Thanks again.
No problem. IMHO the sofirn batteries are good but if you want a little extra I would look into Samsung batteries and molicel but other than that I have no issues with sofirn batteries. When you are looking for batteries for 5000+ lumens flashlights I look for 25A continuous discharge current batteries.
@@smotheredchrome Can you tell me where you found these samsung batteries?
I believe Jackson Lee Hawaii sells them ,you can find him on eBay JLhawaii I'm not sure if he advertise them but find some of his flashlights he sells and message him about the Samsung batteries
could you measure this lights lumens with a p42a/p45b?
Thank you my friend I appreciate your comment 🙏
Yes I can do that, when I get off work I'll get them numbers for you.
Based on this video, which battery gave the best result?
If you put a smooth reflector here, does the range increase?
Very minor.
How to get the page link for the price of 52.99
AliExpress.com there prices always fluctuates I believe there having a big sale coming soon so you should be able to get it for around 50
Its andurill or andurill 2?
Anduril 1
What’s the difference between this light and the astrolux ft03s
Nothing.
Astrolux is a brand sold on banggood mainly and mateminco is mainly sold on AliExpress.
AFAIK they have released all the same lights.