Evinrude had a great product. It’s a shame they couldn’t figure out how to sell it. Strong advertising from the 4 stroke crowd and misconceptions about two strokes did them in. Sometimes the better mousetrap doesn’t win.
They were unable to sell because no one wanted it.. It had nothing to do with misconceptions. It’s old tech, a loud dinosaur oil burner.. The 4-stroke is just a better design and easy sell because it’s better in so many ways. It sells itself has nothing to do with advertising really..
@@supernelsonkiwi umm a 4 Stroke doesn’t burn oil blended fuel. 2 Strokes are NOT more fuel efficient then 4 strokes. They fire on every revolution vs a 4 stroke fires on every other revolution, making the 4 stroke more efficient…..
@@supernelsonkiwi If that were true it would still be a Brand in production..Please post an independent link to Data showing your claim.. Facts are Facts the Etec is dead because it couldn’t complete with the 4 Stroke..
It's been a while and I'm still pissed of that they stopped making the Etec! I have a 250 g1 and love it! There is a reason you don't see any 4 stroke chainsaws, there are things that 2 strokes do better.
Great video! I always wondered how the G2 300 compared to the 400. The results are kind of what I expected. It's a shame that BRP stopped producing Evinrude.
I thank god every day brp Is finally out of the marine industry they produced for years the worst freaking marine outboard finally no more crappy products for anyone to buy yamaha the best
@@BYTES305 Speak for yourself, you have no clue about anything dealing with out boards Telling people yamaha is the best when they where melting power heads at one time
Excellent video. and a real surprise. I followed you on dieselpumpuk channel and now this is a real refreshment. Good luck and successful work in new waters.
Interesting video. I had a 31' Chris Craft Express with twin 327ci (5.4l) inboards with straight shafts. I always thought that pulling those massive engines with marine gears would create a lot of usable space if twins could be mounted on the transom via a bracket. Thanks for the video.
The G2 had some major problem, but it is my favorite outboard. Sadly, BRP are not a super owner for them and they are starting to let some customers away by sending message to owner that they are stoping to support them.
The problem, it’s a 2-stroke… Loud oil burner… Most people prefer smooth, reliable quiet operation with improved fuel economy. Something not mentioned in this comparison was fuel consumption at slow speeds, I bet the Merc would be much better..
@@spinfish1434 still that they were as good as any other and sometimes better than 4 strokes, people hate 2strokes because of the reputation of carby 2strokes
@@spinfish1434 Go look at some performance reports. Fuel economy on the G2 is better, especially below 1k rpm. You don't know what you are talking about.
@@sdvten Lmao, Righto… The G2 is garbage that no one was buying.. They’re no longer in production so what’s the point? Seriously, if they are such great motors they’d still be in production… You don’t know what you’re talking about..
@@spinfish1434 Bombaridier has had several of their entities either sold off or closed in past years. They are not a very good company in the best financial standing. The main reason they bought Evinrude in the first place was to get the direct injection technology for their rotax line. You are the typical loud mouth fool that spouts off about thing they know nothing about. The world is better off without people like you.
It’s a pity so many people in the market for a vote are so uninformed when I purchased my last boat I specifically looked for Evinrude‘s ended up with twin 225 G1’s even though my heart was set on G2’s
Don't have that kinda extra money to burn for a 4 stroke outboard i will stick with my old 60's outboard any day. Simple to work on and they will out last my life time OMC outboards all the way. There are still so many OMC outboards still running on the lake where I live at.
The G2 was a lot of power in a small package. It wasn’t an option when I bought my boat a year ago. But Alumacraft is owned by BRP and had a lot of G2’s on their boats. I still would have wanted a four stroke. They just couldn’t make 2 stokes quiet enough. Love my Zuke.
They did not market them properly. I guess people get lazy and their money starts to dictate. Quick to check oil levels in the auto lube. You have to check your oil in your 4 stroke as well from time to time just like in your car as some oil do get consumed even in a 4 stroke.
Commercial fisherman, i dont GAF about engine noise. I can't hear anything with an open top. That being said, the evinrude is not that loud. I can see the noise being an issue for pleasure craft. It is a shame evinrude gave up. I believe there is way more development to be had on 2 strokes. More power, less weight, less moving parts.
Mercury made made it smoother ride then Etec in the rough seas but if you have a boat that cuts the waves see ya later and both are sensitive to water when you get water in the tank
2 strokes are the best I have a old 1969 Johnson 25 wouldn't sell it for a four stroke at all. Keep sacrifice performance America people that's what you love to do. Keep buying those high price inboard engine and 4 strokes as the dealer keeps racking them up. Never bought or own a four stroke outboard and never ever will.
People are getting way to lazy here in America. Can't mix the oil in the gas anymore really getting that lazy come on I have been doing that for 30 years and I will continue to do that.
Thanks for the video I have the Evinrude 200 H.O. and I do not like the noise for sure Will be going to four stroke as soon as we can afford a refit, likely Yamaha
The 400r you tested has a sport master lower unit on it. That is much less efficient than the standard gear case unless your motor is on a boat that runs above 85mph or so. It's for avoiding prop blow out. When you trim the motor to get top speed out of her it becomes more inefficient than the one on the evenrude outboard . It scrubs speed off of top end of the Mercury. Not a great comparison because of those variables.
All the comments of how great the Evinrude is /was. Envinrude went under because most consumers didn’t want them. Old 2 stroke tech, louder, smokier and less reliable than the 4-strokes especially the Japanese 4-strokes. Good luck getting parts for your unreliable Evinrude now too. Now BRP trying to bring it back in a Rotax. Another failure on the way….
That’s impressive spd for a 5000 lb cabin boat. I’ve heard the g2 etec r less problematic than the g1. But that’s interesting only 1mph gain on the 100hp more 4stroke. I guess if the weight on the boat was bumped to 7000lbs the etec would’ve loose more top end & the merc would show its rated hp then.
G2 was almoust great, had 2015 250 H.O. And it was very powerful, fuel efficent,clogged like old carbureted motor when run at slow speeds, was on warranty repais 9-times in 5-year warranty period propably it had faulty EMU from begginnig and they didi not find it until 4-year. Every summer it blackced out everything from instrument panel and Code 20 communications lost ,everything worked but all data lost. It got kind of old when season ended my boatt was took for repairs and at sprig all crap was seen again. Lost faith for motor and sold it.Electrical issues were common with those, when it worked ,was superb :)
Hello James. No. Sadly The Parent Company BRP that owns Evinrude does not currently Make / Produce Evinrude Outboard Motors Anymore. You can still get Parts and Warranty work for the Etec motors. If you are looking to get an Evinrude wether it is the Etec Or an Older Evinrude Outboard Motor , They are still Available in the Used market , Boat and Marine Dealers Also through Private Sellers. Craigslist or in your local Newspaper Boats for sale. Also , If you have Facebook looking in Community post, For Sale.
Evinrude is torquier because its engine displacement and power every each two stroke, while Mercury is more silent. I preferably choose Mercury ahead of Evinrude, because of the engine noise factor. If the old L6 engine isn’t enough, there are now new generations of Mercury’s with bigger displacement to buy, although it’s very expensive
El tiempo de evirude ya pasó, la calidad del evinrude no es ni parecida a la del mercurio mucho meno a la de yamaha , el mejor es yamaha ,y no sé hagan los perdemos que ustedes saben que es así, díganme cuando ustedes le an fabricado a Japón sin embargo Japón le a fabricado a evirude
I suspect the Mercury would've performed much better had it been propped with a 3 blade Mirage vs the 4. Props make a huge difference in fuel economy and hole shot. Mercury has always led in innovation, superior corrosion protection, quietness, digital shift and now a V12 600... The Evinrude Gen 2 is a 2 stroke Dinosaur, loud, consumes $$$ 2-stroke oil. The lack of desirability and sales have caused it's demise. Mercury clearly wins they still make that 400R...
Oh yes I loved the 400r was a beauty, the wiring was very old fashioned though which was a shame, way behind that of the G2 which made install a pain, but once installed it was a lovely unit.
Agree withyou comment regardingthe prop size, however the mercury Enertia props are better still.. Also was the price of the oil included in the running cost of the Gen 2 engine? Pretty sure the genuine oil is quite expensive 🤔
Evinrude had a great product. It’s a shame they couldn’t figure out how to sell it. Strong advertising from the 4 stroke crowd and misconceptions about two strokes did them in. Sometimes the better mousetrap doesn’t win.
They were unable to sell because no one wanted it.. It had nothing to do with misconceptions. It’s old tech, a loud dinosaur oil burner.. The 4-stroke is just a better design and easy sell because it’s better in so many ways. It sells itself has nothing to do with advertising really..
@spinfish1434 umm what amazing technology does a 4 stroke outboard have that makes a cleaner more fuel efficient fuel injection 2 stroke a dinosaur?
@@supernelsonkiwi umm a 4 Stroke doesn’t burn oil blended fuel. 2 Strokes are NOT more fuel efficient then 4 strokes. They fire on every revolution vs a 4 stroke fires on every other revolution, making the 4 stroke more efficient…..
@spinfish1434 the g2 is more fuel-efficient , MORE not less and cleaner.
@@supernelsonkiwi If that were true it would still be a Brand in production..Please post an independent link to Data showing your claim.. Facts are Facts the Etec is dead because it couldn’t complete with the 4 Stroke..
It's been a while and I'm still pissed of that they stopped making the Etec! I have a 250 g1 and love it! There is a reason you don't see any 4 stroke chainsaws, there are things that 2 strokes do better.
Lol, chainsaws are going electric now… 2 Strokes will be gone in a few years.
@@spinfish1434 I'm afraid corporate greed already saw to it that this electric "future" is nothing but a fallacy.
@@spinfish1434 my Stilh ms 660 wants to have a chat
Great video! I always wondered how the G2 300 compared to the 400. The results are kind of what I expected. It's a shame that BRP stopped producing Evinrude.
I thank god every day brp
Is finally out of the marine industry they produced for years the worst freaking marine outboard finally no more crappy products for anyone to buy yamaha the best
@@BYTES305 Speak for yourself, you have no clue about anything dealing with out boards Telling people yamaha is the best when they where melting power heads at one time
@@bowhunter4893 you clearly are lost in the boat industry my man yamaha v6 is the best motor out there
@@BYTES305 I would disagree. The g2 was insanely good
@@BYTES305its. not 1994 anymore man. evinrude etec was and is the best outboard made.
When you compare noise, G2 is not at cruise, it's at 5300rpm while merc is at mid power.
Very interesting - especially the tiny difference of performance. 2T vs 4T maybe !?
Excellent video. and a real surprise. I followed you on dieselpumpuk channel and now this is a real refreshment. Good luck and successful work in new waters.
it gets into which prop works better on that particular boat
Interesting video. I had a 31' Chris Craft Express with twin 327ci (5.4l) inboards with straight shafts. I always thought that pulling those massive engines with marine gears would create a lot of usable space if twins could be mounted on the transom via a bracket. Thanks for the video.
Good video! Awesome set up 😎
I'm kind of thinking a better comparison would have been the G2 300 versus the Mercury 300
The G2 had some major problem, but it is my favorite outboard.
Sadly, BRP are not a super owner for them and they are starting to let some customers away by sending message to owner that they are stoping to support them.
The problem, it’s a 2-stroke… Loud oil burner… Most people prefer smooth, reliable quiet operation with improved fuel economy. Something not mentioned in this comparison was fuel consumption at slow speeds, I bet the Merc would be much better..
@@spinfish1434 still that they were as good as any other and sometimes better than 4 strokes, people hate 2strokes because of the reputation of carby 2strokes
@@spinfish1434 Go look at some performance reports. Fuel economy on the G2 is better, especially below 1k rpm. You don't know what you are talking about.
@@sdvten Lmao, Righto… The G2 is garbage that no one was buying.. They’re no longer in production so what’s the point? Seriously, if they are such great motors they’d still be in production… You don’t know what you’re talking about..
@@spinfish1434 Bombaridier has had several of their entities either sold off or closed in past years. They are not a very good company in the best financial standing. The main reason they bought Evinrude in the first place was to get the direct injection technology for their rotax line. You are the typical loud mouth fool that spouts off about thing they know nothing about. The world is better off without people like you.
So 100 more hp only got 1 mph?
Yes because it’s torque that moves mass not horsepower And two strokes are torque monsters
The Merc was incorrectly propped, test wasn’t accurate.
Well this was very interesting video. I have always wanted to make similar test / video 👍 Thank you !
I enjoyed watching this comparison.
Could you do one comparing a big block mercuiser to an om606 worked of course
I love my G2 300 but having it has seriously killed my resale value in the American south.
It’s a pity so many people in the market for a vote are so uninformed when I purchased my last boat I specifically looked for Evinrude‘s ended up with twin 225 G1’s even though my heart was set on G2’s
@@johnbumpus7138 you have that backwards. People are informed.
BRP screwed up a good engine technology. Hope this engine comes back
Nah, it’s old tech that no one wants, reliability not so great either.. Merc #1
@@spinfish1434 old tech ? 4stroke new tech? Hahaha 😆
@ Etec = 💩 🤣
Don't have that kinda extra money to burn for a 4 stroke outboard i will stick with my old 60's outboard any day. Simple to work on and they will out last my life time OMC outboards all the way. There are still so many OMC outboards still running on the lake where I live at.
The G2 was a lot of power in a small package. It wasn’t an option when I bought my boat a year ago. But Alumacraft is owned by BRP and had a lot of G2’s on their boats. I still would have wanted a four stroke. They just couldn’t make 2 stokes quiet enough. Love my Zuke.
They did not market them properly. I guess people get lazy and their money starts to dictate. Quick to check oil levels in the auto lube. You have to check your oil in your 4 stroke as well from time to time just like in your car as some oil do get consumed even in a 4 stroke.
Commercial fisherman, i dont GAF about engine noise. I can't hear anything with an open top. That being said, the evinrude is not that loud. I can see the noise being an issue for pleasure craft. It is a shame evinrude gave up. I believe there is way more development to be had on 2 strokes. More power, less weight, less moving parts.
Mercury made made it smoother ride then Etec in the rough seas but if you have a boat that cuts the waves see ya later and both are sensitive to water when you get water in the tank
True if you get water in your tank it's game over my etec got water in the tank. Shut the motor down had too replace the tank
2 strokes will always be the better motor always has
2-strokes are dead.. disposable motors that burn oil, they’ve gone the way of the dinosaur..
2 Strokes make great weed eaters.
2 strokes are the best I have a old 1969 Johnson 25 wouldn't sell it for a four stroke at all. Keep sacrifice performance America people that's what you love to do. Keep buying those high price inboard engine and 4 strokes as the dealer keeps racking them up. Never bought or own a four stroke outboard and never ever will.
People are getting way to lazy here in America. Can't mix the oil in the gas anymore really getting that lazy come on I have been doing that for 30 years and I will continue to do that.
@@spinfish1434keep on buying four strokes
20% Vat. Geez im glad I live in the USA. 3% sales tax where I live.
2 stroke will return soon!
Only in your dreams..
Thanks for the video
I have the Evinrude 200 H.O. and I do not like the noise for sure
Will be going to four stroke as soon as we can afford a refit, likely Yamaha
The 400r you tested has a sport master lower unit on it. That is much less efficient than the standard gear case unless your motor is on a boat that runs above 85mph or so. It's for avoiding prop blow out. When you trim the motor to get top speed out of her it becomes more inefficient than the one on the evenrude outboard . It scrubs speed off of top end of the Mercury. Not a great comparison because of those variables.
We sence one of these companies no longer exists I would say the one that does is the best.
this guy sounds like the dieselpunk uk om606 guy... is this the guy?!
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SON OF A BITCH! IT IS! SUBBBBED
Lol I was also thinking why this guy sounds so familiar...
Dude the one is a 2t motor and the other one it’s a 4t motor
All the comments of how great the Evinrude is /was. Envinrude went under because most consumers didn’t want them. Old 2 stroke tech, louder, smokier and less reliable than the 4-strokes especially the Japanese 4-strokes. Good luck getting parts for your unreliable Evinrude now too. Now BRP trying to bring it back in a Rotax. Another failure on the way….
I’m surprised your boat doesn’t have an OM606 wearing a big turbo, and hooked up to a stern drive. 😜
That’s impressive spd for a 5000 lb cabin boat. I’ve heard the g2 etec r less problematic than the g1. But that’s interesting only 1mph gain on the 100hp more 4stroke. I guess if the weight on the boat was bumped to 7000lbs the etec would’ve loose more top end & the merc would show its rated hp then.
G2 was almoust great, had 2015 250 H.O. And it was very powerful, fuel efficent,clogged like old carbureted motor when run at slow speeds, was on warranty repais 9-times in 5-year warranty period propably it had faulty EMU from begginnig and they didi not find it until 4-year. Every summer it blackced out everything from instrument panel and Code 20 communications lost ,everything worked but all data lost. It got kind of old when season ended my boatt was took for repairs and at sprig all crap was seen again. Lost faith for motor and sold it.Electrical issues were common with those, when it worked ,was superb :)
Whilst the evinrude cost less. Mercury bought them out..
Mercury didn’t buy them out they wouldn’t buy garbage, Evinrude imploded due to old oil burning technology..
And evinrude has gone like the dinosaur
Are Evinrude still made 🤔
Hello James. No. Sadly The Parent Company BRP that owns Evinrude does not currently Make / Produce Evinrude Outboard Motors Anymore. You can still get Parts and Warranty work for the Etec motors. If you are looking to get an Evinrude wether it is the Etec Or an Older Evinrude Outboard Motor , They are still Available in the Used market , Boat and Marine Dealers Also through Private Sellers. Craigslist or in your local Newspaper Boats for sale. Also , If you have Facebook looking in Community post, For Sale.
@@johnelsonjr.6008 That's sad another legend gone 😥
Evinrude BRP gave up on Etec because NO ONE WAS BUYING THEM.. Old oil burning technology..
Closing scene... an asshole leaves his boat moored blocking the boat ramp.
2 Strokes were fun while they lasted; however, the 4 Strokes are so much better.
Really this is apples to oranges not really a fair comparison.
If this comparison makes any sense to you please seek out a clinical psychologist urgently
Evinrude is torquier because its engine displacement and power every each two stroke, while Mercury is more silent.
I preferably choose Mercury ahead of Evinrude, because of the engine noise factor.
If the old L6 engine isn’t enough, there are now new generations of Mercury’s with bigger displacement to buy, although it’s very expensive
El tiempo de evirude ya pasó, la calidad del evinrude no es ni parecida a la del mercurio mucho meno a la de yamaha , el mejor es yamaha ,y no sé hagan los perdemos que ustedes saben que es así, díganme cuando ustedes le an fabricado a Japón sin embargo Japón le a fabricado a evirude
Merc needed a steeper prop for more speed. E-Tec will have maintenance/parts issues as it ages. Merc!
They stopped doing those for emission regulations , otherwise they were the best
Not true. The Evinrude g2 has better emissions than any outboard even being built today
Fully agree. 2x 90 hp e tecs on my boat and they do not smoke at all. Love them
I have a Yamaha 250 sho that is faster and lighter than any evinrude 300 😂
I suspect the Mercury would've performed much better had it been propped with a 3 blade Mirage vs the 4. Props make a huge difference in fuel economy and hole shot. Mercury has always led in innovation, superior corrosion protection, quietness, digital shift and now a V12 600... The Evinrude Gen 2 is a 2 stroke Dinosaur, loud, consumes $$$ 2-stroke oil. The lack of desirability and sales have caused it's demise. Mercury clearly wins they still make that 400R...
Oh yes I loved the 400r was a beauty, the wiring was very old fashioned though which was a shame, way behind that of the G2 which made install a pain, but once installed it was a lovely unit.
@@DieselPumpUK What? The wiring is Plug and Play, very easy.
Agree withyou comment regardingthe prop size, however the mercury Enertia props are better still..
Also was the price of the oil included in the running cost of the Gen 2 engine?
Pretty sure the genuine oil is quite expensive 🤔
Yip it is but you burn so much less at a 400:1 mix. Do your oil change on your 4 stroke every 100 hrs or so and see what that costs you.