The truth about Fold and Flip phones
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Apple hasn’t shipped an iPhone Fold… yet. There’s no flipping Google Pixel phone yet either. But Samsung has just hit deadly number 4 - Galaxies Flip and Fold the next, next, next generation.
So, why? What does Samsung know - and other companies that refuse to sell their folders any place I can buy them - what do they know that Apple and Google don’t? Or vice versa?
Are flips and folds… the next big… bigger… smaller to bigger… Samsung thing? Or still just… extremely expensive… excessively compromised tech nerd thirst-traps - that’ll be superseded by glasses or whatever - before Apple and Google even begin?
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Well i see my self using an Apple AR glass and a samsung triple fold phone in the future both tech aren't mutually exclusive i mean.
For foldables not yet..
For AR glasses way off.
Samsung is so convinced that foldable displays is the next big thing because they have invested so heavily in the display technology. they need it to pan out so they can sell gobs of foldable displays to apple and google.
Even if apple had a foldable phone... I would stick with the regular sized non-foldable phone. for the same reason I don't buy the MAX. I don't need more display and the price isn't worth it to me. also, I don't see the value in making the phone fold. my phone fits in my pocket as is.
Duly noted.
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That can go both ways... If Apple did the same thing, it would be their head on the chopping block too.
We all say we don't want foldable phones now because we use Apple phones, not Samsung phones, but lets see weather that changes when and if Apple does do one.. I bet 90% of people will dissmiss-foldable's now, will quickly jump on *that* bandwagon.
Besides,,, anything you get something new that's foldable, that introduces a hint of weakness.
Just look at what has happened to Samsung
@@Tech-geeky I'll bet the dealings with Apple regarding their purchase of folding screens from Samsung were done quite some time ago... 🧐
@@BubbafromSapperton Ya, but just because Apple purchases something, doesn't mean it will be a product either..
Many were also shelved too.. Even the wireless charging Apple could not get right. and we've heard nothing of that since.. It may be in the works still as Apple called it a "technical hurdle", or something similar, but if it was being worked on, why isn't it public ? Or leaked? Even Apple car, (they thought that was top secret), managed to get out,, and that still has no truth as the "leakers" keep pushing the dated back.. Its funny too see.
I still feel like folding itself isn’t enough of a feature to make it worth it. I think it’s a question of what folding would allow you to do that you couldn’t do without the fold. Otherwise, folding is just a gimmick.
That's exactly right. The folding feature Flex Mode is exactly that: another level of interacting with your phone that makes things super convenient.
When smartphones was called cellphones and folded phones were called flip phones. Some of my ex colleagues would constantly flip their phones from shear boredom or to play with it. As though it’s a butterfly knife and it’s always going to make some feel like they are part of the crew of Enterprise.
Technology needs to solve and resolve issue’s, making life better and easy.
However it’s additional work, more steps to unlock it, folding flipping seems twisted. Why do more work unless it’s for working. Might as well get a light or ultralight laptop, hello MacBook Air m1, m2, eventually m3.
@@DBE008 I see your point, but feel like we might be talking about different things. I'm not interested in an gimmick or flip for flip's sake boredom - you can literally have so much screen real estate that I can do or monitor 3-4 things at once. I can fold it in half and watch UA-cam TV, have my text thread open for my wife, and also on the bottom have Nest open to see my baby in the crib - all while bent at an angle on my desk or kitchen table. You could totally just grab a Chromebook or M1 Air those are great. But instead of finding so many reasons to think these are silly nonsensical items I applaud Samsung to having the stones to release these and push the bar higher and higher. If we all waited for Apple to set trends in the world we'd be in for a long journey. I'm not pushing anything on anyone. When I read a lot of these comments on this thread I immediately get the sense that most people just haven't used one for an hour or so to even experience it.
I and many others never asked for this and aren’t buying into it.
@@aawendt no
I’m completely not interested in a folding iPhone - too expensive and too many compromises.
Sooner or later when apple does make one, everyone will be clamouring for one. 😉🤣😄
we said that about large phones as well, but today most of us use one. but ya, your probably right. Many things I turned my head against in the past, I now own ... Go figure.
@@guntherfurlong no, I don’t think so. Fundamentally, I think the folding form factor is an inefficient design. Apple is known for making products that are highly minimalist with the “less is more” approach. Unless they can find a strong justifiable reason for a foldable, you can bet they won’t produce foldable.
@@damnfreakingsien Never say Never and I wouldn't hold my breath...only time will tell.
@@guntherfurlong haha you have a point. Back then we all doubt a virtual keyboard on a smartphone but now we all are using an all screen smartphone
But just looking at the folding design itself, it is very unlikely to apple to adopt such an over-engineered design.
I’m leaning towards compromised tech nerd thirst traps.
I’ll become convinced, once the visible “crease” is dealt with and once the displays don’t feel like cheap plastic
This
Well they don’t feel like cheap plastic lol
It feels plasticity because of p oled 😂
For me the Z Fold phones are too narrow (folded), too thick(folded), too heavy, too fragile(the internal screen) and too expensive for the total user experience provided.
But apart from that, aren't they great! 😂
Thank you
Why do you think they keep making it wider and wider and shorter and shorter 😂😂😂😂
@@louiswilliamterminator2887 They are basically the same for a way higher price. It isn’t worth it to me
Really scratching my head what makes ppl think a Google foldable would sell if they can barely sell their Pixel phones now....
Ive got a z fold 3 and the only compromise I've really experienced was downgrading to B grade cameras. Everything else is on par with any other flagship phone. The experience is way better than using an Android tablet because it's still small enough to use phone apps.
I was really hoping thr z fold 4 would have ultra level cameras. I used the money I would have spent upgrading and bought a mirrorless camera.
Here's my use case:
A Kindle in my pocket everywhere I go
Great youtube experience big video plus comments at the same time
Portable notebook with samsung notes and onenote
Great slack experience
Great portable Web browsing
The z fold 4 does have ultra level cameras
@@brendan1523nope it doesn'took it up
It's an interesting question, but this video does not contribute too much to the discussion. Why does Google keep postponing their Fold? Some people send in their folding phones for a screen protector replacement multiple times per year. Is that a reason other manufacturers hesitate?
I sincerely do not want a folding phone adding a hinge to something does not intrinsically add any value
I think if I could fold my iPhone 13 pro Max into a smaller pocket form factor it would be great.
Just not great enough for the compromises the current tech holds. But if it’s fixed I think it’s a great idea for wanting a bigger form factor while using it, but a smaller footprint when not.
@@sloppynyuszi Most of my bags and pockets favour slimmer objects than thicker objects, so it doesn’t really work well for me but that’s just me.
@@hextobyte I mean there isn’t one form factor to suit all. Even apple sell their phones in 4 different shapes and sizes. Soon 3 when the mini gets discontinued for all the cynics 😅
@@sloppynyuszi that’s with the same thickness though. The lineup only has three different sizes which only varies in screen size. I don’t want to start an argument or anything just wanted to be clear with that
Personally I don’t see a reason to pay for foldability. I don’t even like phablets (rip iPhone mini…) so the idea that Samsung is showing what I didn’t know I wanted does not apply. Laptops are nice except I use them as desktops - never folding them - since the integration of keyboard, trackpad, speakers, display etc. is what entices me.
I’d buy an iPhone “flip” ( not fold ) soooooo quick!!
I would rather pull my phone out of my pocket and not have to open a lid. This style went out a while ago for a reason. And don't forget the Toilet also has a Lid.
Failure. If I want a bigger screen I use my tablet.
I don't need my phone to be half the size but twice as thick in my pocket.
It fits in all my pockets as it is. Nothing is so important that it can not wait until I take my iPad out my bag or I get home.
I could probably spend less money on an iPad AND an iPhone (or whatever any individuals preferences are) than on a flip phone.
I am a child of the 70s, and grew up through the whole communication revolution from the portable brick that was the first "mobile" phone to today, and I remember the flip phones from back in the day. I had one for less than a day as it was awful. To make a call I had to 'open' my phone instead of just using the phone, and like laptops, any kind of debris between the screen and the other half leads to disaster.
I could go on, but I don't want to waste anymore brain cells thinking about it.
So for me 100% a failure. Pointless and expensive.
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No
Foldables are trash. You can always see that line down the middle. They are going to break way more. IF Apple ever does a foldable it will be when they aren't compromised. And I agree with Apple no point of shipping one. Foldables are just for tech nerds, not mainstream public and I don't think they ever will regardless of how durable they become. Screens have settled into the max usable sizes and no reason to make them bigger. Tablets folding maybe.... but lets face it no one wants a thick brick so I doubt they ever catch on there either.
I’ve played with the foldable phones, but the tactile feel is just too unpleasant. The screen feels like your swiping on plastic, moving your finger over the crease is disconcerting and the crease is visually unpleasant distorting reflected light. In addition, the flipping motion feels too stiff and unnatural and the folded phone is ridiculously thick, like shoving two iPhone Mini’s stacked on top of each other into your pocket. There is just something about moving your finger across a rigid panel of glass and it is visually superior. I just don’t think flip devices are “there”, yet, and I’m not sure if physics will ever allow them to be.
As someone who's had many phones (including the Fold 3 for a year), I just smile at these videos. It's not for everyone for sure, but until you'd give yourself a few days to spend time with one and see just how different the experience is it's easy to say their "half-baked" and pointless. When I go back to my Pixel 6 (because I love that experience too), within an hour I'm already annoyed because I can't do so many things I'm used to doing with the Fold. Everyone's use case is different, but these are incredibly ambitious devices that give you possibilities that don't exist with anything else in the world. And as far as the price point, when I bought my wife a maxed out iPhone 13 Pro with Apple Care it was $1,700. So let's not pretend it's such a massive gap. A lot of tech is very expensive. But these are all tools and worth every penny to me. And you definitely get what you pay for.
I had a month with the Flip3 and sold it, as it wasn't for me. A gimmick more than anything that became irritating for the 100X's a day I had to open and close it. Looking at eBay, its value has plummeted, and secondhand is selling for around £300, when at new £950 (Flip4 now £1000).
It is niche and appeals to specific demographics. It has a place but indeed will not become the de facto number one form factor due to price and compromises. At £1000, I can get far more bang for my buck than the Flip4. The Fold4 is ludicrously priced; I can get an iPhone 13 Pro and iPad Pro M1for the exact cost and would be far happier!
What are the "many things" you can do with the fold . . . other than fold it?
Not everyone need a tablet/phone all in one.
I don’t need a 8in screen for a phone.
There’s always use case for everything but it’s a niche at best.
Battery life is nowhere the same as 13PM.
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu I agree 100%. I'm just glad Samsung is pushing the envelope too :)
Not a fair comparison when your wife’s iPhone is guaranteed those AppleCare+ years + likely will last five more years while a Fold is likely to break within a year
And yeah... The gap in the middle.. is a huge turn off
I really liked not having to flip when moving from a flip phone to a smart phone. It’s extra work and an inconvenience I feel.
its crazy when we all say "we on't like flip phones" because before we went smart-phones, I bet the number one seller WAS a flip phone... Motorola V3 ??
I know I used one. I put them in the same category, despite flip is not clamshell..
@@Tech-geeky As a gen z...who basically has never used an og flip phone. many young people think OG flip phones are cool and love them. but obviously couldn't pick one over a smartphone. Now we can.
customisation of phones rlly came back with the flip for example and is a reason why i want one.
You hit the nail on the head - pricing is prohibitive. A phone is still only a device to interrupt my daily zen. Do I hate my phone? Yes, and not a foldable or flipping phone can change that so the less I pay for it, the better it is.
I see what you're saying, but I think if you spent time with one and saw just how different it is and the possibilities it's capable of that normal brick phones can't do, you'd maybe change your mind. All depends on your life and job and use cases of course :) Have a great weekend
@@aawendt Appreciate the feedback Andrew. I used to be in the corner of the flashy new devices and was on Android. The past years I have been employed by companies that use Apple products. I still go for the simplest devices as they exceed far what I need, all I need is a screen that I can read without glasses 🙂
@@aelaan12 totally get it! And I absolutely love Apple devices! (Maybe not iOS as much) Haha. Simple is refreshing too for sure.
It funny to see these comments, knowing fully well I'm sure most had clamshell phones before a smart phone as well.
Back then, we didn't think that, Even I did.. Although their not technically the same, my Motorola v3 still 'folds'
At the time, it was the best thing since slice bread.
These fancy folding phones are annoying to use. I used Samsung Fold 3 just for a month & sold it & got S22 ultra . I carry a tablet for serious works. These fancy phones are totally marketing gimmicks for sales. In real life you will get annoyed using it.
What annoyed you about using the Zfold 3 that the S22U solved?
If you can live without folding a pizza slice, you can definitely live without folding a phone.
I luv sipping my coffee rn to the beginning of this video talking about the things that fold 🤪 😌 perfect combination 👌
My dream device, however it’s done, is still an iPad mini with pencil in iPhone size.
Absolutely PLEASE no folding iPhone.
Unless It works like the Nokia Morph concept, I'm not interested in a 90's style flip phone.
Rene, your verbal flow rivals spoken-word style: love it and keep it coming!
I love your storytelling is on another level. I wonder if it’s something you learned or it’s just a natural talent. Great video. 🙏
No
You can't make this stuff up
I used both the Samsung alias and alias two phones for years. The alias 2 with the E-Ink keyboard is still my absolute favorite and most missed phone I’ve ever owned. Absolutely loved that phone! Despite using both for over two years each, and working in trades where they got abused, I never once broke the hinge on either one. I could send messages so so so much faster on that old school phone then any smart phone I’ve had since. Honestly if they came out with a modern interpretation of the alias, hardware keyboard and all, I’d probably get it. But I know I’m very much in the minority there. Ah fond memories.
Literally no one cares
@@anthonyr1479 I beg to differ. Literally someone must care, even if only the least amount possible, or there would literally be no replies.
🔥My phone don’t jiggle jiggle, it folds🎶 Samsung, Im giving you an ad campaign.
I hated old flip phones and don’t want one in a smartphone either. Too thick. I welcome the day I won’t need to carry a folded wallet in my pocket either.
I really really want to get a flip, but not sure if it’s worth really diving into.
Please consider doing fewer clips and zooming in/out. It puts focus on the editing instead of the contents
Rene, I would sincerely love to see you attempt to fold the original Game Boy.
Do you remember the Galaxy Note 4, and all the memes about big displays on a phone?
Here we are in 2022 with 6.7" & 6.8" displays everywhere 🤷🏻♂️
BTW, Note 4 was only 5.7" 😅
The first 17 seconds
Wow
🙏🙏🙏
“Anything that bends can break”
iPad Pro: 😦
“Is that a fold phone in your pocket, or are you happy to see us.”
As an iPhone Mini user, the idea of a fold phone is ridiculous. Too heavy and bulky for my style. We also have an iPhone Pro Max, and the thought of having something the size and weight of two of those in a pocket is horrifyingly cumbersome…
If I were one of those types to wear a phone holster, then maybe it would not be such an issue…
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No way these folding screens will last 7 years like my iPhone 6plus did. Absolutely love my 13 pro max 1tb.
The data shows the average smartphone is kept for 2.5-2.6 years; it has never been over 3 years (closest in 2019 at 2.96). Being the exception to the rule, more than double it, and screaming iPhone FTW while never even touching one of these is not data of any type. No device is made with the intent to last that long (you really think Apple wants you to only upgrade every 5-7 years rather than 2-3?); happening to is a side benefit.
Someone who kept an Iphone 6 for 7 years is not the target audience either.
@@jonk8600 Our family keeps phones for 5-8 years. You may have averages but I suspect that there are a lot of consumers that are on the short and long ends too. What would be more interesting is the mean.
@@jonk8600 But here’s the thing often by just two years they look out of style and boring, the current iPhone 12-13 looks apart and something you could genuinely enjoy for 5 years or more without worrying much of it getting damaged so easily like previous generations or their competitors like Samsung using slightly less durable material and shorter support time all this makes apple a hotter sale globally specially in places where people are not so spoiled with easy credits cheaper pricing and availability of Premium Smartphones at the push of an online button like we do richer parts of the world. If I was in one of these place an iPhone right now would be the most sensible buy and it shows apple is currently outselling everyone even in China where they had some biased for a time against the iPhone.
If you watch Austin Evans, who can be called the evangelist of the Z Flip phone, you’ll find that with foldables, the screens don’t last a year with his level of use. He’s had screen problems with every phone he’s had and is currently debating whether to replace his screen for the third time on his Z Flip 3. One month after he last replaced the screen, the new one started bubbling up. He found that the built-in screen protector had separated from the screen. But he had to peel it off to get rid of the bubble. Now his screen is unprotected. With that kind of history, lasting three years is dubious. Granted he’s one person, but that’s a lot of screen problems on multiple foldables.
@@movdqa Sample size of 1. Again, google it yourself and check the survey data. In the US it is 2-3 years. That is the data, not opinion.
Disappointed you didn’t use the Gameboy Advance SP when you mentioned foldable Gameboy.
I’ve always been intrigued by the Flip and Fold …. But I’m also a tech nerd. 🤓
can't have both
I carry my phone horizontally in a holster - I don't want the vulnerability of a hinge, and don't need a super thick form factor.
Thanks…I enjoyed your thoughts! Blessings on your day 👍🏻
ok so why Apple and Google aren't doing foldable?
Not in the least interested in a folding iPhone. They just seem bulky and fragile.
Nice Star Trek: TNG reference there.
When Samsung say can flip up to 300000 times, then what after that?? How long will the resale value remain? Are used foldables even reliable?
I kind of feel like I did when 3d TVs was a huge craze. Foldable phones are cool and all but they not really solving any problems and is way too expensive. Yes the fold 4 has a big internal screen but the aspect ratio is horrible for videos
You can get an m1 pro 14 inch MBP for the same price as the $1800 fold. The price on foldables is totally insane. I'm sure it will come down eventually but for now it's foolish to buy one. Folding is neat, but it's not $1800 neat. The advances in technology required to implement it well will be expensive to gain so prices may be high for a while.
It’s not even neat
folding displays is just a gimmick. it's not going anywhere
up untill 0:48 is the most controversial question of fold able phones: Are they too LATE or are they too EARLY?
Will they directly be replaced by AR glasses??
Well I pre-ordered a Flip 4 just because it can fit nicely in a pocket and is waterproof, don't really care too much about specs... 🤗
The only things I miss about my recent switch back to Apple is a touchscreen on my laptop and my Galaxy Fold. Apple won’t make it because they want you to buy an iPad Mini as well as an iPhone. Without doubt my Fold 3 with stylus is my all time favourite phone.
Apologies for the, “well ACTUALLY” but Flight Attendants have demonstrated rolling is more efficient as volume of carry on space converges to nothing.
Thank you for the Palm Pre video
Waiting for Pixel Fold 5a.. because that'll be finally reliable
I look at a person with a foldable and think, "There's someone who's broke."
When you get ridiculous trade in prices, it brings is down to 800 -900, which you'll pay for an iphone 13. Without that trde in, yeh not worth it.
my fold 4 screen broke... not by my damage by at the creece and samsung refused to repair it under the warranty... my first and the last foldable device
Just use it like a normal person
Foldables are an attempt to revitalise a stale and increasingly redundant product category: the phone. Imo, the current best way of everyday computing and communication is a variation of the tablet, be it “phone sized” or larger.
Phones should be phased out and essentially be replaced by tablets as a main communicator, with other tools like watches and glasses as the more mobile accessories for quick access to the most essential features.
Foldables could have a place in that tablet space, just how convertibles have a space in the car market. It won’t be the new standard, I think. I think the wearables will become the more important part of the current ecosystems, be it through watches, glasses, gloves, clothing, or what have you. Maybe the new Matter standard could be expanded from just the home to other accessories that you take on-the-go.
I think people are completely missing the point. It’s not about it being foldable it’s about being closer to an ALL IN ONE DEVICE.
I see a world where one day our phone is everything, our tablet, our laptop, our phone and our computer. Samsung is already part way there with the fold/dex and imo Samsung is going to be the one laughing in the future while everyone else is trying to catch up.
I don't think we will every reach a point where one device can do it all, mainly because of the contradicting needs based on what you are doing. With a phone you want a small device you can easily carry, but with applications like word processing and spreadsheets you want a large screen. Then when you want to watch a movie you want an even-larger screen.
What I can see happening is having multiple devices that talk to each other. Each device is right for its use but it can share data with others. My understanding is that is what Apple devices currently have.
That’s never going to happen because we all have devices that fit a specific need when we want I mean folding phones are cool but for now Samsung or any other company invested in foldables have yet to give us a real reason why u would want a folding phone for one it’s more expensive more fragile more bulky and comes with trade offs
I have the z flip 4 and I am so impressed with the phone, absolutely no problems with it. I don't see the Crease while using it anymore I didn't first but I don't notice it now, and it is fast and intuitive.. I absolutly love it ..
Hey , may I know your experience now, 7 months later.
Apple and Google know the market for foldables is insignificant.
Google only invests money into projects if they'll get back billions, and portables aren't that. Google killed off so many of their own startup companies because they were underperforming.
I think Steve Jobs would be repulsed by the concept.
Yep, folding laptops make sense, protects to screens. Folding the wallet, protects the goods. A screen to screen... Doesn't make any sense. Cool, but... The tech is not there. Unless... If they don't touch, like that rubber you have on laptops, so the screen doesn't actually touch the keyboard. Coz that matters!
This just in… the gameboy pocket was actually the nintendo fold 😂
I just want the podcast app to work well.
The solution is simple. A small old fashioned flip phone for calling and texting, and a seven inch tablet for everything else.
Apple was that forward thinking company once, pushing the boundaries. Now it's safe.
Wow how long ago was this video clip of you? The years have folded you nicely.
The centre ice reference was nice - at least Canadians will get it.
I don’t think there is a market for foldable phones. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in use in the real world.
@rene Ritchie A foldable banana would be totally killer. You could call it “FolBan” and then “FolBan Pro”. Do think Apple would be interested in branching out into other fruit? Do you know someone there to whom I can pitch this:-)
You'd only be able to use it once.
I hope for them that they don't make anything fold it's just a way to scam people. Had one and never again the display failed..
It's really funny we went from flip phones back to flip phones lol
I don't consider a foldable phone to be the same as a flip phone. Instead, I classify it as it own type of phone, occupying a space between the traditional flip phone and the smartphone.
For me, one of the most important features of a traditional flip phone are the physical keys which I find more accurate to type on than typing with a virtual keyboard. Although I can type fast on a virtual keyboard I tend to regularly make mistakes because of the small size of the keys (As an example, I often hit the C, V, and B when I intended to hit the space bar). Then I have to backspace several letters to make corrections (trying to tap the screen to get back to the incorrect letter[s] takes even longer).
While typing with the 12-button keypad is a little slower I rarely make mistakes and the ones I do make I can immediately correct. Plus, with practice I've gotten faster typing with it. This is one of the major reasons I went back to a traditional flip phone from my smartphone.
Because Samsung is early, it doesn’t make them wrong. And it’s not just Samsung, there’s plenty of Chinese companies making them too. Google will be in the race by 2023. And you better believe Apple has foldable prototypes. But I can’t help but view this as a fanboys rant about something his favorite company doesn’t make yet. And there aren’t many compromises, these 4th gen foldables are highly capable devices. I use an iPhone for family, iMessage FaceTime etc, out of necessity and ease of use for keeping in touch, but my business phone is a Galaxy Fold. And better believe that phone is in my hand a lot more than the iPhone.
Honestly I just feel no need for the current flip phones. I would honestly say as they are now i’d 1000% rather have smart glasses.
moto has the razr flip
What is this background music
As much as I want one, I know I’d be disappointed - unless it was an iPhone mini which flipped out to be 3X bigger and equal the size of an iPad mini.
My experience. I find all slabs, Samsung & Apple to be a bit boring. And the best slabs are pretty expensive. Right now fold is the way to go.
that's something..
They just solve problem that they've created. I prefer 4" normal screen instead of 6"+ flipping/folding screen. I had flip phone once in the past and I won't buy this thing anymore.
Im just waiting for new battery before i buy a new foldable.
The volume of a phone is limited by the size of the battery. Trading length for width and ending up with a thick box makes no sense. Once the promised next generation batteries reduce the thickness of the phone to something Mr Ive would approve of, then folding begins to make sense.
I will buy a foldable iPhone when they released them.
I’m old enough to have experienced the startac 😂
Well Said !
The next thing I want to see is foldable smartwatches. Just bc honestly
I wear regular watches.
The word folder... mind blown
What I really want is Apple Watch to be managed by an iPad and watch running CarPlay so I can skip the phone which feels like a redundancy for me lately. That will probably never happen but I’d prefer that to a giant foldable phone.
Maybe because Apple and Pixel realise that fold and flips just won’t become a ‘thing’!
Folding display for mobile devices feel like a gimmick to me.
I bought an iPhone 13 mini because I spend a lot of time running and a small and light phone is ideal because you don't want a big phone banging against your leg or hip while you are running and you don't want imbalance with your running. There are some shorts with pockets in the center of your back and that's balanced but it's hard to take out quickly if you want to switch from podcasts to music or take a call. One thing about the new Samsung phones are that they are relatively heavy for the size. Unfortunately Apple discontinued the iPhone mini so I will just use my 13 for the next couple of years until they bring it back. If I need a larger screen, there's my iPad mini. If I need an even bigger screen, then there's my MacBook.
The mini will never come back.
@@archimedes2261 Never say never. I have the Mac mini and the iPad mini and hope springs eternal. I can wait for 7 or 8 years.
Looking at Xiaomi's Mix Fold 2 it’s safe to say you can hear Samsung gulp. 💯😂
Indeed. Its design looks a generation ahead of the Z Fold 4 (larger screen inside, a regular 21:9 ratio screen outside, 4 millimetres thinner when closed), plus it's WAY cheaper (5000RMB cheaper spec for spec). As I live in China, it's very likely to be my next phone as the price of entry is now just low enough that I can justify buying one.
I'll stay with my slab, thankyou!
I want an iFlip. LOVED my old flip phone.
If Apple could trademark that one... lol
Hum..... I'm not sure how I feel about this new video format. I don't know if it fits the Chanel aesthetic. Mabey it's just me?
Recently been really interested by the fold 4. Not for the phone aspect but more the portable tablet part. Still would like to see a surface duo approach from samsung or google or apple because i feel like thats the next direction but the fold 4 is laying the ground work for that (hopefully) eventual future.
No
It's not that the fold is compromised
It's more like the Samsung has no competition in the us and cannada
Let's talk about overseas china
The Vivo,huwaei and the Xiaomi fixes a lot of problems the fold has like the camera ,the aspect ratio the thickness etc
So it's more like a samsung thing in the usa
Just like the iMessage thing which is only restricted to the states and not a global phenomenon
Or that only Samsung produces those screens, and chose to keep them for them self