If you are wanting a new bike yes Harley's are reall expensive, but if you just want a Harley Davidson there are some real gems out there older bikes with low miles that look new for a great price.
I have owned owned 12 motorcycle in my life and I enjoyed every single one of them. I own 4 Harley Davidson at this present time. I ride what I like not what other people like . I heard trash talk about my Harley Davidson. And l really don't care what they like or don't like. All that know is l like what I ride. And that's all that really matters.
I'm 60 years old and have been riding for nearly 50 years on multiple bikes over the years. The last one was a 2001 HONDA interstate VALKYRIE with a bat wing... I rode 12,000 miles through Canada, East Coast USA, and the Gulf Coast, then back to Canada, where I'm from originally. When people see the bike, they ask... is that a Harley? When I talk about my long trip and say to people, my big bike. Many immediately assumed it was a Harley. The bottom line is that if you want the Cadillac of cruisers, you buy a HARLEY!!! NEXT BIKE HD...
I feel like you’re looking at the moco with rose colored glasses. They are just now getting to the point where their competitors were at 15yrs ago. But they are purposely creating demand and cutting back on manufacturing to maintain “prestige” ie price rigging. As far as reliability you just have to look at the live wire, the panam, or the the sumping issues with the m8. The forums are full of people discussing issues with them. Harley is STILL unreliable and poorly designed. They just arent leaking oil.
I think that what annoys many is not the bikes, but what many Harley owners do to them, specifically that the fitting of obnoxiously loud slip-ons seems to be considered almost a necessity. Compared to other brands a disproportionate number of Harleys seem to have these loud exhausts, and it doesn't do anything positive for the image of motorcycling in general.
Not gonna lie Hollywood, I had a Honda shadow for 13 years. The reason I bought it initially was because I was told from someone who worked at the Honda dealership “Honda owns Harley the only real Harley-Davidsons are the old school ones” so me being a ignorant punk all those years ago took that as fact. I’ve gotten crap all throughout the years by HD riders about driving a “hardley” so that kinda kept me at bay. My brother bought a iron 883 I hoped on it wasn’t a fan. My friend had a dyna street glide and I rode it and man was I impressed so I went to the dealership and bought a 09 Dyna street bob and I fell in love with it. Night and day compared to the Honda which made me even happier with my purchase it really was a nice upgrade
As a CMAer i rode my first metric cruiser was kawi vulvan 950 i loved but i truely love my 05 roadking cleared the USA 3x in the roadking, common sense on maintainence and taking care of my bike takes you a long way, god bless everyone
Up until the early 2000s i wouldn't go anywhere near one. There was such an arrogance about owning one and let's not forget about the waiting lists at the dealerships. From where I stood they seemed overpriced and overrated and overhyped. That wasn't because I couldn't afford one but because I refused to pay it. It seemed like a bad deal. By the early 2000's the dealership experience had gotten better, the bikes didn't leak anymore, and I was finally ready to take a chance and try one out. My first Harley was a Sportster and that was a class-A experience. My twin cam was a lesser experience but now that I have all the bugs worked out of it it's a keeper. I'm glad I got a Sportster first because if I had experienced all the extra issues of a big twin right from the get-go I probably would have gone right back to a Japanese bike. I'm at a point now where I like mostly all brands but when it comes to Harley's I generally like the Evo models the best especially the Sportsters.
For the same reason some people dump on those who ride non Harleys. Feelings of inadequacy and insecurity. It's the man that makes the bike, not the bike that makes the man. When you know what you're packing, you don't have to say shit, just smile.
Started on metric , Rode them for years , got my first Harley Davidson in 2018 I won't go back.. And I did talk crap about Harley riders I felt at the time they were arrogant and they were better than us metric metric riders , But I was wrong ... I love the Harley Davidson community ..🇺🇸👍👍👍
It doesn't matter what you ride weather it's two wheels or a trike or it's a hog, Indian, Kawasaki, Honda, Suzuki, Triumph or even Yamaha, as long as you got 2 in the wind. Brother
I love Harley to death and have owned a couple myself. I think the biggest problem right now is that they are way overpriced and that might be what is driving everyone over to the metric brand. I know that you can buy a Kawasaki Vaquero out the door for 18995.00 give or take some. It also looks like a Road Glide.
To me it's not the bike it's the attitude. A lot of Harley owners treat anyone not on a Harley like he/she is beneath them and far as I concerned you can GFY if you're like that. I have a Fatboy and I've noticed a lot of the ones that will chat me up when I'm riding it won't even talk to me if I'm on one of my Japanese bikes. To be fair it's not just Harley folks because I've seen Goldwing riders be snobbish like that as well.
I'm a non harley rider ,I have always ridden crotch rockets,sport bikes,and I have never trash talked Harley Davidson,I've always admired certain models made by Harley....I'm older now but still a sport bike rider,but I would ride a custom Fatboy
Here’s where the double talking comes in: High maintenance does not equate to being reliable. Any combustion engine vehicle whether it’s 2, 3, or 4 wheels, metric or American will be reliable as long as its up on a lift once or twice a month getting parts adjusted or replaced, adding and replacing top dollar fluids at regular intervals, washed and polished everyday or every other day, ridden gently for a couple thousand miles a year and garage kept the rest of the year. Let’s go a step further-I’ve had diehard Harley Riders dressed to the nines with HD gear that have admitted to me that they’re tired of having to stop at 2 or 3 HD dealerships to keep their bikes running when they ride across country. And these are late model bikes not old knuckleheads or pan heads or even twin cams. I’ve had diehard Harley riders whine, bitch and moan about the cost of dealer service intervals, overpriced merchandise, returning 2 and 3 times to fix the same issue but they’ll turn right around and throw another $600 to $3000 into the same things they’ve been complaining about. You simply do not need to put that much time, effort and money into a metric bike. I’ve had more than my share metric bikes and one Harley and spent a fraction of time and money on maintenance and upkeep in comparison to a Harley. That’s not speculation, that’s not favoritism that’s over 35 years of experience. You can literally neglect a metric bike, especially a Honda for thousands of miles and it will keep on performing. How many guys riding Harleys can say they’ve done that. The point is this: clocking as many endless miles on the road as possible without worrying about service intervals or breaking down on the road.
Tough experience, but I just got my first Harley. Coming from a bulletproof triumph scrambler. Drove it’s first 15 miles to my garage and the sucker is DOA the next morning. Had to get it hauled back to the dealer. Hoping it’s smoother sailing from here.
I own a 180k mile FLHRCI & a like new XL883c. While I Love my Air Cooled EVO Motored Harleys , the hard cold truth is ... Bikes from other companies work better & cost WAY less to own & enjoy. My Honda VXT was MADE IN AMERICA ( LOOK IT UP) rumbles just like my Roadking & has NEVER left me stranded. I can't say that 'bout our beloved HD BIKES. My 07 Vulcan500LTD just "OOZES CRUISER" & out performs my Sportster, same thing when it comes to reliability. The XL1200R / XR1200 & MOST BUELLS Handle Good (4a HARLEY) BUT my Vstrom1000 beats them ALL on the Twisty Canyon Roads while also being more comfortable. The new so called Sportsters got a fast motor but almost No Rear Suspension Travel , just like most of HD's best looking bikes, except the PanAmerican , which has lost its original Vtwin Feel , Sound & (dare I say) SOUL !!! I want the most "Bang 4 My Buck" & more " Go 4 My Dough" So .. HARLEY IF YOUR LISTENING , BRING ME A 100 HP XR800 with a $9000 price tag. Not trash talkin. Just Being REAL
I remember when I was growing up the man leaving across the alley from me had a Harley Davidson. He often had problems with it. I remember seeing him out there often and his bike would not start. I also saw people with japanese bikes and they would fire right up. They also had much more power and cost much less. When I rode my brother in laws 2007 Heritage Softail I wanted one. Last year he sold his and I bought it. It is a great bike. It is a very refined bike.
I've been around Harleys since ''Made in Japan'' were fighting words. The 70's still had a war in Vietnam, and AMF used more and more imported Asian parts. But what I found burned me just as much were these 'instant biker' jerk-offs on Evo's singing the "Jap Scrap" tune when a greater percentage of their Evo and officially licensed accessories were in fact, Made in Japan, or Taiwan, than any Shovelhead.
I think it largely has to do with principle. It's like paying $7.50 for a domestic draft beer that costs the bar about 35 cents. Understandably, any business that wants to stay open has to make a profit. But Harley's cost more than some cars and trucks. I believe a lot of consumers feel that's unjustified and that they can get more value from buying a metric cruiser. No doubt Harley Davidsons are well-built machines, and I've owned a ridden them for decades. Still do. But, come on Harley Davidson...
Right on brother, I have a 2008 suzuki c50 and wish I could own a Harley Davidson. Been getting alot of negative comments that I need a Harley but in my eyes it's just the feeling of living and the feeling of being on a motorcycle and appreciation of what you have and appreciation of the bikes you wish you could have
I was harley trash talker for years til I bought a used 2008 harley davidson Softail Custom. I loved it. Since then I bought two harley SGS. Love them both as well. My last metric bike was a 2007 Honda VTX 1800 T. I went to Sturgis with it and had a blast. At the time (2014) guys with Harleys gave me a hard time because of the stock exhaust, which I updated later. The VTX in 2014 was kicking new harley Street Glides, (it had 106 Hp). Now I am a harley guy and very happy. I always wanted a Harley, but financially couldn't do it, so I did want I could do until I could afford a Harley. I have been riding since 1970. Bought my first harley davidson in 2013.
I don't really care what you ride, except maybe a Can Am or Slingshot, but then again no body ever walked into a bar and said, " hey, who's Honda is that parked outside ." Lol
The bikes are great. I mostly trash talk the dealers and the Motor Co. itself. Every dealer I have gone into recently wants to charge me a couple of grand above MSRP. I don't see why Harley can't include heated grips/seats, and traction control as standard on a 30k bike. My 8k Moto Guzzi and 12K Triumph has traction control standard. I would love to have a new Road Glide but I feel like I am being bent over as soon as I walk into the Harley Dealer. As far as maintenance your going to pay 125$ an hour at any brand you go to.
I think the sport bike phase has passed, now it’s standard/ naked bikes or small displacement bikes. Unfortunately some of the coolest and most desirable bikes are not available in North America.
Back in the 80s, when I got my first bike, it was a Honda. All my buddies had HD and they nvr had time to ride because they were constantly having to wrench on theirs lol. Alot has changed, I ride a street Bob 114 now and freaking love that bike!
Its strange, but many people thinks that EVOs and newer HD bikes are ok. And older ones(Harley Davidsons) is always a lot of mechanic jobs, to keep them running? No, I had 1942 war machine 750cc side valves, the only mechanic work I did on this bike was to strengthen the primary chain, and due to this, I have to strengthen the rear chain. I changed the circuit breaker once, and did some ignition linements, and that's it for 5 years, constantly riding every day from middle of April to 1st November for 5 years, I dont see this as a problem. My newsiest Harley 1947knuckle, I put 3" belt on and a phase 3 clutch never any strengthen work. Been riding this bike since 1981, never any stop on the roads, never any big repairs, its was renovated after 20 years riding once, and since then its running perfekt, so all the wrenching ? I dont understand ?????? I would say that the old bikes are more reliable then the new ones, and its not any electronically problem, no electric problems, and its easy like hell to find out if any problems should occur, is there any gasoline coming, are there a spark on the spark plugs, if both is ok, yes then it will start. Try this simple issues on a new bike?, you dont even know what to look for, or where to look, among all the cables, plastic covers etc etc Some people thinks that an old Harley is only problems, and you need to be a trained mechanic, but all that its just a myth Ok a newer bike is more comfortable to go on longer runs, no doubts about that, rigid frames are hard for the asses. But Im not in a hurry, I go 250km a day( 155 miles), Im 69 years old, so this year I will start to use my small AirHawk pillow, to be more friendly to my ass, but I take it easy, and enjoy the ride, have a joint and a beer from time to time.
I have an Aprillia RSV1000R and also got myself a little 2020 Harley 750 Street Rod. while the Aprilia is super fast and fun to ride on the Highwsys, the 750 street rod is so much fun in town. I stoll need/want a Bigger Harley but I do most of my bike riding in town, where bigger bikes become almost impossible to enjoy because of all the cars and sh1t.
I’ve rode them all (except crotch rockets) I say ride what you want and what you like. I’m riding a heritage softail right now and rode a Honda before I got it.
I think the number one problem of today with Harleys is there price. If they could bring the price down to where the metric bikes are maybe they would change the few people's minds. Food for thought. Do you agree?
I sold my superbike and got a Harley ultra classic love the bike and now upgrades on everything and sound system id rather ride my Harley over a sport bike nowdays I enjoy my loud music 😂
hubs has riden for over 40 years. just in the last 10 yrs has he ridden a harley. for him, they finally got some things right. he does enjoy the thing when it runs right. that said, it has spent a lot of time in the shop... and that's really the thing that chaps a person's hide and makes them grumble. my bike was barely in the shop and his needed constant visits for repair. that gets old.... and it's so expensive.
TBH that kind of generational thing it's alive even today. I'm currently on a Chinese 125 here in the UK and these get loads of crap just because they're historically low quality, kinda like the first japanese bikes but I think you got all the concepts right on this Hollywood.
@@toddk.5873 This is a very good point and my only complaint as, for whatever reason, my specific model has weird measurements everywhere just because why not. Other keeways can be easily repaired with your run of the mill universal Chinese components from buddy bezos or fleabay..the K-light not so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I used to ride my metrics they were good and fun, but a Harley feels like what those other cruisers try to mimic. So they add more technology to make up for the soul they’ll never have . Fooling children. The difference between my RoadKing and Vulcan. Are RoadKing feels like it’s alive, Vulcan just feels like a material object that I can definitely live without. Harleys haves a spiritual connection lol Metrics have a robotic connection
Unless they had an American dirt bike most people back in the day or rode some sort of Jap bike before the Harley especially if you ever rode a dirt bike
Harley put out the Sportster S and Nightster to try and draw in the younger/speed crowd. Feels like both failed at it. Sportster S is expensive and not comparable to sports bikes in the same segment. The Nightster...dude...Harley has NOT supported it at all. Second year of the bike and almost no parts for it. We can't tune them. ALL the work being done is mostly coming out of Thailand. It is also locked at 113mph. It rides wildly different than other Harleys. It is locked a single mph faster than my 21 Heritage.
Because nowadays HD not even US made facts are facts but you might as well wave Italian flags in the back along with various globally sourced parts made
That’s not even true no more about price my buddies was saying the same thing they pay 15,000 or more for their metric back back when I bought mine Electra glide I only paid like 18,000 at the time.
I think you are still overlooking the obvious when it comes to this topic. There seems to be a humanistic tendency to exert the belief that the group, product, religion, etc etc is better than the others; almost like an egotistical point of view so people feel better about themselves and their choices. It seems that this behavior is pervasive in most all societies. The other point is that, while maintenance is important regarding all machines, most of the Japanese motorcycles require much less maintenance than the Harley's. I do not believe this is conjecture.
The only guys I know that bad mouth large breasted beautiful blond women either have a flat chested gal that looks like a twig or no woman at all. A guy riding a beat out foreign piece of crap pulls the same lame line of BS on Harley’s. I knew a dude that bad mouthed Harley’s for nearly 30 years. A friend left him a Harley in his will and now I laugh as he exposes on how great Harley’s are.
They are expensive they don't always use the most advanced technology in them but mostly people can't afford one or they can't justify spending that kind of money? But no matter you're opinion like it , love it , Hate it , who cares just shut up and ride! 2020 SGS if you think your bike is better come out and take a weekend trip with me? If you can't change my mind at least you can get a good weekend out of it?
If you are wanting a new bike yes Harley's are reall expensive, but if you just want a Harley Davidson there are some real gems out there older bikes with low miles that look new for a great price.
I have owned owned 12 motorcycle in my life and I enjoyed every single one of them. I own 4 Harley Davidson at this present time. I ride what I like not what other people like . I heard trash talk about my Harley Davidson. And l really don't care what they like or don't like. All that know is l like what I ride. And that's all that really matters.
I'm 60 years old and have been riding for nearly 50 years on multiple bikes over the years. The last one was a 2001 HONDA interstate VALKYRIE with a bat wing... I rode 12,000 miles through Canada, East Coast USA, and the Gulf Coast, then back to Canada, where I'm from originally. When people see the bike, they ask... is that a Harley?
When I talk about my long trip and say to people, my big bike. Many immediately assumed it was a Harley.
The bottom line is that if you want the Cadillac of cruisers, you buy a HARLEY!!!
NEXT BIKE HD...
I feel like you’re looking at the moco with rose colored glasses. They are just now getting to the point where their competitors were at 15yrs ago. But they are purposely creating demand and cutting back on manufacturing to maintain “prestige” ie price rigging.
As far as reliability you just have to look at the live wire, the panam, or the the sumping issues with the m8. The forums are full of people discussing issues with them. Harley is STILL unreliable and poorly designed. They just arent leaking oil.
I think that what annoys many is not the bikes, but what many Harley owners do to them, specifically that the fitting of obnoxiously loud slip-ons seems to be considered almost a necessity. Compared to other brands a disproportionate number of Harleys seem to have these loud exhausts, and it doesn't do anything positive for the image of motorcycling in general.
Not gonna lie Hollywood, I had a Honda shadow for 13 years. The reason I bought it initially was because I was told from someone who worked at the Honda dealership “Honda owns Harley the only real Harley-Davidsons are the old school ones” so me being a ignorant punk all those years ago took that as fact. I’ve gotten crap all throughout the years by HD riders about driving a “hardley” so that kinda kept me at bay. My brother bought a iron 883 I hoped on it wasn’t a fan. My friend had a dyna street glide and I rode it and man was I impressed so I went to the dealership and bought a 09 Dyna street bob and I fell in love with it. Night and day compared to the Honda which made me even happier with my purchase it really was a nice upgrade
As a CMAer i rode my first metric cruiser was kawi vulvan 950 i loved but i truely love my 05 roadking cleared the USA 3x in the roadking, common sense on maintainence and taking care of my bike takes you a long way, god bless everyone
Up until the early 2000s i wouldn't go anywhere near one. There was such an arrogance about owning one and let's not forget about the waiting lists at the dealerships. From where I stood they seemed overpriced and overrated and overhyped. That wasn't because I couldn't afford one but because I refused to pay it. It seemed like a bad deal.
By the early 2000's the dealership experience had gotten better, the bikes didn't leak anymore, and I was finally ready to take a chance and try one out.
My first Harley was a Sportster and that was a class-A experience. My twin cam was a lesser experience but now that I have all the bugs worked out of it it's a keeper. I'm glad I got a Sportster first because if I had experienced all the extra issues of a big twin right from the get-go I probably would have gone right back to a Japanese bike. I'm at a point now where I like mostly all brands but when it comes to Harley's I generally like the Evo models the best especially the Sportsters.
For the same reason some people dump on those who ride non Harleys.
Feelings of inadequacy and insecurity.
It's the man that makes the bike, not the bike that makes the man.
When you know what you're packing, you don't have to say shit, just smile.
Started on metric , Rode them for years , got my first Harley Davidson in 2018 I won't go back.. And I did talk crap about Harley riders I felt at the time they were arrogant and they were better than us metric metric riders , But I was wrong ... I love the Harley Davidson community ..🇺🇸👍👍👍
It doesn't matter what you ride weather it's two wheels or a trike or it's a hog, Indian, Kawasaki, Honda, Suzuki, Triumph or even Yamaha, as long as you got 2 in the wind. Brother
I love Harley to death and have owned a couple myself. I think the biggest problem right now is that they are way overpriced and that might be what is driving everyone over to the metric brand. I know that you can buy a Kawasaki Vaquero out the door for 18995.00 give or take some. It also looks like a Road Glide.
To me it's not the bike it's the attitude. A lot of Harley owners treat anyone not on a Harley like he/she is beneath them and far as I concerned you can GFY if you're like that. I have a Fatboy and I've noticed a lot of the ones that will chat me up when I'm riding it won't even talk to me if I'm on one of my Japanese bikes. To be fair it's not just Harley folks because I've seen Goldwing riders be snobbish like that as well.
I'm a non harley rider ,I have always ridden crotch rockets,sport bikes,and I have never trash talked Harley Davidson,I've always admired certain models made by Harley....I'm older now but still a sport bike rider,but I would ride a custom Fatboy
Harley Davidson still the most prestigious brand in motorcyles on earth not riding Harley currently on a Victory.
Victory is a great bike.
Here’s where the double talking comes in: High maintenance does not equate to being reliable. Any combustion engine vehicle whether it’s 2, 3, or 4 wheels, metric or American will be reliable as long as its up on a lift once or twice a month getting parts adjusted or replaced, adding and replacing top dollar fluids at regular intervals, washed and polished everyday or every other day, ridden gently for a couple thousand miles a year and garage kept the rest of the year.
Let’s go a step further-I’ve had diehard Harley Riders dressed to the nines with HD gear that have admitted to me that they’re tired of having to stop at 2 or 3 HD dealerships to keep their bikes running when they ride across country. And these are late model bikes not old knuckleheads or pan heads or even twin cams.
I’ve had diehard Harley riders whine, bitch and moan about the cost of dealer service intervals, overpriced merchandise, returning 2 and 3 times to fix the same issue but they’ll turn right around and throw another $600 to $3000 into the same things they’ve been complaining about.
You simply do not need to put that much time, effort and money into a metric bike. I’ve had more than my share metric bikes and one Harley and spent a fraction of time and money on maintenance and upkeep in comparison to a Harley. That’s not speculation, that’s not favoritism that’s over 35 years of experience. You can literally neglect a metric bike, especially a Honda for thousands of miles and it will keep on performing. How many guys riding Harleys can say they’ve done that. The point is this: clocking as many endless miles on the road as possible without worrying about service intervals or breaking down on the road.
Tough experience, but I just got my first Harley. Coming from a bulletproof triumph scrambler. Drove it’s first 15 miles to my garage and the sucker is DOA the next morning. Had to get it hauled back to the dealer. Hoping it’s smoother sailing from here.
I own a 180k mile FLHRCI & a like new XL883c. While I Love my Air Cooled EVO Motored Harleys , the hard cold truth is ... Bikes from other companies work better & cost WAY less to own & enjoy. My Honda VXT was MADE IN AMERICA ( LOOK IT UP) rumbles just like my Roadking & has NEVER left me stranded. I can't say that 'bout our beloved HD BIKES. My 07 Vulcan500LTD just "OOZES CRUISER" & out performs my Sportster, same thing when it comes to reliability. The XL1200R / XR1200 & MOST BUELLS Handle Good (4a HARLEY) BUT my Vstrom1000 beats them ALL on the Twisty Canyon Roads while also being more comfortable. The new so called Sportsters got a fast motor but almost No Rear Suspension Travel , just like most of HD's best looking bikes, except the PanAmerican , which has lost its original Vtwin Feel , Sound & (dare I say) SOUL !!! I want the most "Bang 4 My Buck" & more " Go 4 My Dough" So .. HARLEY IF YOUR LISTENING , BRING ME A 100 HP XR800 with a $9000 price tag.
Not trash talkin. Just Being REAL
I remember when I was growing up the man leaving across the alley from me had a Harley Davidson. He often had problems with it. I remember seeing him out there often and his bike would not start. I also saw people with japanese bikes and they would fire right up. They also had much more power and cost much less. When I rode my brother in laws 2007 Heritage Softail I wanted one. Last year he sold his and I bought it. It is a great bike. It is a very refined bike.
I've been around Harleys since ''Made in Japan'' were fighting words. The 70's still had a war in Vietnam, and AMF used more and more imported Asian parts. But what I found burned me just as much were these 'instant biker' jerk-offs on Evo's singing the "Jap Scrap" tune when a greater percentage of their Evo and officially licensed accessories were in fact, Made in Japan, or Taiwan, than any Shovelhead.
I think it largely has to do with principle. It's like paying $7.50 for a domestic draft beer that costs the bar about 35 cents. Understandably, any business that wants to stay open has to make a profit. But Harley's cost more than some cars and trucks. I believe a lot of consumers feel that's unjustified and that they can get more value from buying a metric cruiser. No doubt Harley Davidsons are well-built machines, and I've owned a ridden them for decades. Still do. But, come on Harley Davidson...
Right on brother, I have a 2008 suzuki c50 and wish I could own a Harley Davidson. Been getting alot of negative comments that I need a Harley but in my eyes it's just the feeling of living and the feeling of being on a motorcycle and appreciation of what you have and appreciation of the bikes you wish you could have
You can pick up a pre-owned Harley for a decent price. Just get ready for the maintenance costs.
love that model bike c50. had to trade, but i miss her.
I was harley trash talker for years til I bought a used 2008 harley davidson Softail Custom. I loved it. Since then I bought two harley SGS. Love them both as well. My last metric bike was a 2007 Honda VTX 1800 T. I went to Sturgis with it and had a blast. At the time (2014) guys with Harleys gave me a hard time because of the stock exhaust, which I updated later. The VTX in 2014 was kicking new harley Street Glides, (it had 106 Hp). Now I am a harley guy and very happy. I always wanted a Harley, but financially couldn't do it, so I did want I could do until I could afford a Harley. I have been riding since 1970. Bought my first harley davidson in 2013.
I don't really care what you ride, except maybe a Can Am or Slingshot, but then again no body ever walked into a bar and said, " hey, who's Honda is that parked outside ." Lol
The bikes are great. I mostly trash talk the dealers and the Motor Co. itself. Every dealer I have gone into recently wants to charge me a couple of grand above MSRP. I don't see why Harley can't include heated grips/seats, and traction control as standard on a 30k bike. My 8k Moto Guzzi and 12K Triumph has traction control standard.
I would love to have a new Road Glide but I feel like I am being bent over as soon as I walk into the Harley Dealer.
As far as maintenance your going to pay 125$ an hour at any brand you go to.
I think the sport bike phase has passed, now it’s standard/ naked bikes or small displacement bikes. Unfortunately some of the coolest and most desirable bikes are not available in North America.
Back in the 80s, when I got my first bike, it was a Honda. All my buddies had HD and they nvr had time to ride because they were constantly having to wrench on theirs lol. Alot has changed, I ride a street Bob 114 now and freaking love that bike!
Its strange, but many people thinks that EVOs and newer HD bikes are ok.
And older ones(Harley Davidsons) is always a lot of mechanic jobs, to keep them running?
No, I had 1942 war machine 750cc side valves, the only mechanic work I did on this bike was to strengthen the primary chain, and due to this, I have to strengthen the rear chain. I changed the circuit breaker once, and did some ignition linements, and that's it for 5 years, constantly riding every day from middle of April to 1st November for 5 years, I dont see this as a problem.
My newsiest Harley 1947knuckle, I put 3" belt on and a phase 3 clutch never any strengthen work.
Been riding this bike since 1981, never any stop on the roads, never any big repairs, its was renovated after 20 years riding once, and since then its running perfekt, so all the wrenching ? I dont understand ??????
I would say that the old bikes are more reliable then the new ones, and its not any electronically problem, no electric problems, and its easy like hell to find out if any problems should occur, is there any gasoline coming, are there a spark on the spark plugs, if both is ok, yes then it will start.
Try this simple issues on a new bike?, you dont even know what to look for, or where to look, among all the cables, plastic covers etc etc
Some people thinks that an old Harley is only problems, and you need to be a trained mechanic, but all that its just a myth
Ok a newer bike is more comfortable to go on longer runs, no doubts about that, rigid frames are hard for the asses.
But Im not in a hurry, I go 250km a day( 155 miles), Im 69 years old, so this year I will start to use my small AirHawk pillow, to be more friendly to my ass, but I take it easy, and enjoy the ride, have a joint and a beer from time to time.
Great stuff 👍 thanks for sharing. #ROCKON ✌ Ride Hard Ride Free. 🇺🇲 GOD bless America 🇺🇲
I have an Aprillia RSV1000R and also got myself a little 2020 Harley 750 Street Rod.
while the Aprilia is super fast and fun to ride on the Highwsys, the 750 street rod is so much fun in town.
I stoll need/want a Bigger Harley but I do most of my bike riding in town, where bigger bikes become almost impossible to enjoy because of all the cars and sh1t.
Well said brother Insane. Ride safe.
I’ve rode them all (except crotch rockets) I say ride what you want and what you like. I’m riding a heritage softail right now and rode a Honda before I got it.
I think the number one problem of today with Harleys is there price. If they could bring the price down to where the metric bikes are maybe they would change the few people's minds. Food for thought. Do you agree?
I sold my superbike and got a Harley ultra classic love the bike and now upgrades on everything and sound system id rather ride my Harley over a sport bike nowdays I enjoy my loud music 😂
hubs has riden for over 40 years. just in the last 10 yrs has he ridden a harley. for him, they finally got some things right. he does enjoy the thing when it runs right. that said, it has spent a lot of time in the shop... and that's really the thing that chaps a person's hide and makes them grumble. my bike was barely in the shop and his needed constant visits for repair. that gets old.... and it's so expensive.
TBH that kind of generational thing it's alive even today. I'm currently on a Chinese 125 here in the UK and these get loads of crap just because they're historically low quality, kinda like the first japanese bikes but I think you got all the concepts right on this Hollywood.
The most important thing for me is "Are parts available?"
@@toddk.5873 This is a very good point and my only complaint as, for whatever reason, my specific model has weird measurements everywhere just because why not. Other keeways can be easily repaired with your run of the mill universal Chinese components from buddy bezos or fleabay..the K-light not so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Expensive slow heavy pretty bikes, some people don't want that, why is that so hard to get?
I used to ride my metrics they were good and fun, but a Harley feels like what those other cruisers try to mimic. So they add more technology to make up for the soul they’ll never have . Fooling children. The difference between my RoadKing and Vulcan. Are RoadKing feels like it’s alive, Vulcan just feels like a material object that I can definitely live without. Harleys haves a spiritual connection lol Metrics have a robotic connection
Unless they had an American dirt bike most people back in the day or rode some sort of Jap bike before the Harley especially if you ever rode a dirt bike
Harley put out the Sportster S and Nightster to try and draw in the younger/speed crowd. Feels like both failed at it. Sportster S is expensive and not comparable to sports bikes in the same segment. The Nightster...dude...Harley has NOT supported it at all. Second year of the bike and almost no parts for it. We can't tune them. ALL the work being done is mostly coming out of Thailand. It is also locked at 113mph. It rides wildly different than other Harleys. It is locked a single mph faster than my 21 Heritage.
Because nowadays HD not even US made facts are facts but you might as well wave Italian flags in the back along with various globally sourced parts made
No freaking kidding!💯
All motorcycles are cool, but, Harley Davidson’s are the epitome of what a motorcycle should be. No other bike comes close !
That’s not even true no more about price my buddies was saying the same thing they pay 15,000 or more for their metric back back when I bought mine Electra glide I only paid like 18,000 at the time.
It’s easy. They can’t afford one.
I think you are still overlooking the obvious when it comes to this topic. There seems to be a humanistic tendency to exert the belief that the group, product, religion, etc etc is better than the others; almost like an egotistical point of view so people feel better about themselves and their choices. It seems that this behavior is pervasive in most all societies. The other point is that, while maintenance is important regarding all machines, most of the Japanese motorcycles require much less maintenance than the Harley's. I do not believe this is conjecture.
Afternoon everyone
@@insanewheels I upped my subscription. I have a lot of fun on your shows. Figured I'd help the cause.
The only guys I know that bad mouth large breasted beautiful blond women either have a flat chested gal that looks like a twig or no woman at all. A guy riding a beat out foreign piece of crap pulls the same lame line of BS on Harley’s. I knew a dude that bad mouthed Harley’s for nearly 30 years. A friend left him a Harley in his will and now I laugh as he exposes on how great Harley’s are.
Seems like 9/10 do because they can't afford a Harley. The last 1 just goes along with the other 9.
They are expensive they don't always use the most advanced technology in them but mostly people can't afford one or they can't justify spending that kind of money? But no matter you're opinion like it , love it , Hate it , who cares just shut up and ride! 2020 SGS if you think your bike is better come out and take a weekend trip with me? If you can't change my mind at least you can get a good weekend out of it?
Because they can
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