Funny how if you rephrase "media consumption" to "appreciating art" it doesn't sound so bleak anymore. A hobby doesn't need to be productive, it doesn't need to be creative, you can just exist. You don't need to always be improving yourself. Sometimes you can just look out of the window at the scenery. It's fine. Life is not a competition to be the "most alive".
This is very poignant! I completely agree. Captitalism and work culture has really ingrained in people that we need to constantly be one-upping each other and ourselves and I feel like that’s a very toxic way to live. The most important thing we should all worry about it just being kind to ourselves and everyone else. Maybe that’s a hot take but 🤷🏻♀️
I agree. There's a lot interesting to learn about modern media and their history. From the evolution of the technologies that made it possible, to evolution of art styles in cartoons, trends in music, etc., to the history of particular productions. The history of video games is downright fascinating.
I didn't interpret it as "consuming media at all is bad." I interpreted it as "doing nothing but consuming media is bad. You should have at least one hobby that adds something to the world or gets you out and about." Given this interpretation, there's not actually any contradiction. You can consume media (including books) IN ADDITION TO playing tennis or writing or whatever.
I agree. Hence also the "digital media" clarification feels unnecessary to me - you can critique both the fact that people do nothing but consume media while also recommending that they diversify that media diet as well.
@@Molly-iw1rc I agree. However, the act of consuming media itself doesn't contribute anything, in the sense that it does not directly produce anything that can be observed. It's contributive in the sense that it can change the way people think about things, which influences the things they do produce.
@@moribucci It produces knowledge... Experience...wisdom... understanding...that by itself is good enough lol It doesn't have to be "observed" for it to be a productive contribution. It produces friendship, community, passion, etc. I disagree with the notion that a contribution needs to be observed to count as something. And isn't that just a cycle of consumption. You consume, you create, you consume, you create, on and on. Neither is more important because they are both gonna fuel each other anyways.
@Molly-iw1rc I didn't say that whatever is produced has to be observed, I said that it has to be observable. Friendship and community are able to be observed. Additionally, I would argue that they're not produced simply by consuming media. To form friendship and community you have to interact with other people; it's a two-way street. Thus they fall under the category of "things beyond just passively consuming media"; they're exactly what I'm talking about, as much as is tennis.
this is hilarious for me bc the sheer LEVELS of hyperfixation I have on certain media led me to researching lore that was semi-relevant to the media, which led to letting myself accept my love of history, archeology and myth for the first time in a decade, which led to studying dead languages and writing systems, learning to write by hand again, picking up a ton of historical crafts, learning to cook, and going back to school for my bachelor's. now I'm an archeology major hoping to specialize in early medieval linguistics. still not sure how Jensen Ackles' pretty boy eyelashes and they way his texas drawl comes out when he says "Cas" got me here but okie.
I think what she’s doing is calling out the fact that people are extremely one dimensional. I think it was unfair for her to specifically target women but I get what she means, all you care about are your looks. It’s extremely vain to just get up every day and put on your makeup and that’s all you are as a person. As far as the media consumption thing, her making a tiktok about why only consuming media is bad is ironic and intentional. Too much of a good thing becomes bad. I’ve experienced this mysel, I loved to watch “educational content” thinking I was bettering myself. Turns out 10+ hours of watching shit all day long really prevents you from soaking anything up and retaining any information.
Most retention comes from repetition. You can watch an educational video, but if you only watch it one time, with no additional reinforcement of that information, you're just consuming, not absorbing.
I feel like most people don't just get up everyday and put on their makeup and that's all they are as a person? kinda feels like a rehash of the "not like other girls" stuff from the 2010s when those memes acted like all that "other girls" did was obsess over makeup and clothing and boy bands with no autonomy or inner lives
@@_kaleidoi think she’s referring to people who are so vain that their looks consume their entire lives. i’ve met people like that, and trying to have a conversation with them is like eating drywall. i’ve met men like this too, not just women. gym bros come to mind…
@@TheAdarkerglow I definitely agree with this, I got pretty heavy into music production and teaching myself the piano. I ended up watching more and more videos wondering what I was doing wrong until I realized I was prioritizing consuming educational media over, you know, actually playing the god damn piano. there needs to be a balance between consuming information and applying the knowledge you've consumed.
I think the reason books is often separated from other types of media in conversations like this is simply because it’s not instantly hitting the dopamine button in our brain. We have to “work” for the dopamine rather than just… staring at a screen and scrolling. Our brain seeks dopamine, it’s our reward chemical. When so much technology is built to exploit that, anything that isn’t feels laborious by comparison.
I don’t get how there’s a difference between scrolling and turning pages? A book is just an analog screen when it comes to “pick up a thing and get dopamine from consuming someone else’s work”.
@@emmanarotzky6565 I think it really depends on the book. There are books that require the same amount of effort as scrolling, and there are other books that are take more time and effort to read.
@@CamboigaYT asexual is not being attracted to people sexually for example (when non ace people are attracted to someone they might want to have sexual relations with them and what not but for ace people they either don't have that at all or there is another term: demisexual which falls under the umbrella of ace and it means you require a deeper emotional connection with a person in order to feel sexually attracted to them in that non ace way)
idk why people get their panties in a twist when someones main or only hobby is media consumption. I love playing video games, and i constantly get told "well you have to have something other than that too"...no i dont? even though i do, theres no need for me conform to what others think as an "appropriate" hobby
like i get that looking at screens all the time probably isn't the best but like we don't "need" to find other hobbies lol. As long as you are happy and healthy it doesn't matter what your hobbies are
@@deesnyder8201 I mean, I think everyone should have a hobby outside of media consumption. Creativity is important, even if you're not great at what you're doing.
@@deesnyder8201 respectfully, as someone who used to think this way, nah. i found hobbies outside of gaming and screens and it’s been amazing. there’s nothing like creating something with your hands and getting outside to appreciate nature. i still game, but i also garden, hike, bake, sew, play piano, and crochet now. can’t imagine going back to just starting at a screen all day tbh
@@coolchameleon21 You're probably right. I've been wanting to get into more creative and outdoorsy hobbies for a while but im disabled and also have school and I usually don't feel like doing much after I get home. I'll have plenty of free time over the summer and I do want to try to go outside at least somewhat often (its gonna be a bit hard though because I'm gonna have a surgery to help with my disability and I'll have to deal with recovery) and I also want to get more into coding and 3d modeling and maybe make stuff with that.
her tone was very condescending and this tiktok annoys me majorly but i do find the question “what are your hobbies outside of media consumption?” very great! and i say this as someone who does NOT have any hobbies outside of media consumption (i literally only read, play video games, and watch TV and movies) but being able to do something independent of a screen and using your own creativity is so great for your mental health. everyone should strive to find a non media consuming hobby
and i also feel like this video would not be nearly as controversial if she had simply… delivered it better without looking down on others. framing it as “people who don’t have hobbies are vapid and self obsessed” is just so unnecessary and it’s obvious that a good amount of people who tend to only consume media as a hobby are people struggling with mental health or who are neurodivergent
I love consuming media, and consuming non educational media doesnt mean i do so non-critically. I personally think you can be smart and have a great personality and also be a huge media consumer. Same with being obsessed with looks. Billions of people spend hours consuming media daily and to assume its because theyre shallow and dumb and dont have a personality is lame o rama! I think its kinda a "make someone up to get mad about" type thing she did there
Don't get me wrong, i dislike it when this leads to lack of media literacy and people miss important points and themes and morals because they're never looking for any, but I think THATS the problem. Not any other personal stuff about the people doing so that can't really be assumed just based on that.
It’s not about villainizing media, digital in this case, it’s about doing things outside of consumption. It’s good to take pride in your appearance, it’s bad to only care about your appearance. It’s good to have hobbies, it’s bad when those hobbies are solely based on consumption. It’s reductive to bring the argument to “online people dumb” when it’s clearly supposed to be a thought provoking conversation. The last line is what it is to make you uncomfortable and make you think. Not to make anyone a bad person.
I think it’s lame how when someone makes an argument people search for contradictions instead of acknowledging the nuance in any given subject. Like yes, you can criticize overuse of media (digital in this case) with media. You can wear makeup while arguing that people shouldn’t be solely invested in their looks and neglect other facets of life and personhood in favor of that. I know media literacy has gone down but I guess I still get whiplash when I see the reward people get for being the quickest to draw some sort of “um actually” ☝🏻🤓 or mean ass comment without even engaging with the content in a conscious way.
this is literally the entire comments section of this video not having nuance and agreeing with her full stop without considering they might be wrong that nobody has hobbies anymore. and then when someone corrects them they do the uhm actually thing as if theyre thinking critically about this in any way
i think people like you and the girl who made the tiktok have a problem with using terminology you don't really understand. just yelling "media literacy!" and "media consumption bad!" just betrays how little you understand about what you so desperately want to speak about.
i recently took up gardening :-D it's literally so fun i feel so much better outside gardening than i ever have rotting scrolling on my computer or cellular device. i'm also a bike commuter (aka a loser without a license), but working on my bike is also very fun.
I once got in a mini-argument over this, because when I said I write fanfiction as a hobby the other person said that still counts as media consumption but like?? It's literally not?? Idk maybe I'm wrong, but I think writing, regardless of whether it's tied to an existing property or not, is creating and is a hobby.
Ion know how people can look at writing and be like "ItS nOt A hObBy!" It's giving "cheerleading isn't a sport". Writing also isn't the same as reading or scrolling on your phone. It's creating something that wasn't there before and not consuming media.
@@starangel3737 exactly! And those same people don't say anything about creating other forms of art, like drawing or music, it's only ever writing that I see get singled out for some weird reason.
@@wafflethyeah i feel like they would probably lump all fan-works together like that, be it fan fic fan art fan anything really, though I think fan fic is more widely decried as being unoriginal and uncreative, I know fan art is often also devalued in a similar way even in the art community, I saw one take that was basically "everyone posting fan art is just trying to cash in on the popularity of the original media none of them actually care" and like yeah some people do trend chase but like seriously???
A lot of people I've seen against her are just nitpicking her tone and are mad she hurt their feelings. I've seen very few actually engage with her points
In this economy people who have to work constantly don't have time for hobbies. When you're exhausted after your job you're likely going to sit in front of the TV or watch UA-cam instead of making art or whatever.
@@sophitiaofhyrule and yet many people manage to find fulfilling hobbies in their free time! Imagine actually doing something rather than making excuses. Yes it's HARD, but that doesn't mean it's impossible and it actually means it's really worth it to try. Every step I personally take towards diversifying my life and what I can do has improved my life so much. I only have so much free time. I'm not going to waste it sitting mindlessly in front of the TV.
I think the internet got so pissed cuz she sounded really pretentious in that video. It’s really hard for people suffering from mental illnesses like depression or anxiety to get off of screens sometimes and do things. At least for me, that’s what made me angry. Shes also saying that thinking that you’re cool and appreciating yourself is wrong if you go on social media too much. How I interpreted it personally is her saying “if you have a bad headspace and can’t get off of social media, instead of getting help and feeling better about yourself, don’t think highly of yourself at all.” That’s why this video is frustrating to me at least. Also Wurld, love u girl but I think you’re giving her a lot of credit. Just watching the video and not assuming anything about her intentions, I found it rude and condescending to judge others. And if she did mean it how you thought, she should have worded it way better. Thanks for this video tho girl, love ur content 😘
i took it as people being foppish, vain, and shallow. they only care about being beautiful or aesthetic but they are hollow on the inside and only consume meaningless things mindlessly.
tbh I think your reaction is valid- but also probably led to your interpretation not being in good faith. It seems like you took it very personally, and I don't think she was implying a lot of what you got. She never even gets close to implying you shouldn't get help if you're in a bad headspace, and I'm not sure where your pulling that from. I'm pretty sure that what she's saying is that you shouldn't base your self-worth on your appearance, and that by not engaging with the world beyond passive consumption, you make yourself a poorer person. She might be a bit rude about it, but she's also right. In a capitalist culture built upon consumption, creative and enriching hobbies are an undervalued but necessary aspect of life. Again, I don't think your wrong to feel the way you do, especially as a knee-jerk reaction, but I do think it's contributing to you interpreting this in the worst faith possible. Also, a little beside the point perhaps, but you SHOULD be getting away from the screens and doing something. While it's difficult, not doing so can really trap you in a depressive spiral (speaking from experience). I know it's difficult, and may even feel impossible, but getting up and doing things is the only reason I ever managed to overcome my depression.
@awesomecutieusername I think one thing that confused me a bit though is her complaining about media consumption when reading is media consumption? Even if her intentions were to help people read more or do other things than getting online that always puzzled me lol
@awesomecutieusername babe, I literally said it was my opinion from my experience and perspective? If she was more educated in the topic she would have used more tact in what she said and considered peoples experiences and pasts while making this discussion and speaking about it. I quite literally listened to exactly what she said and I think people should be able to like their looks without being judged for it, which is not what she said. She said people who think they look pretty but spend all their time on the internet are not pretty. I think that’s rude and pretentious to people who have image issues and are trying to be better. I hope you’d know that we have to consider everyone instead of people who are mentally stable and well. She never clarified this, which she should have. If she had added that in and worded what she said a little differently, I would agree for the most part. But if she is going to have this take online and post it, she should have had more tact and thought more before posting a lazy, uneducated opinion. Also, why does it matter how people look? People should feel good about themselves or at least accept themselves without feeling terrible for other circumstances. I’m probably not going to respond to you again because this argument is honestly pathetic. Thanks!
I actually interpreted the video as her discouraging people from focusing too much on looks and how we should focus on building inner value based on what we do with our time/ how we contribute to the community. Was surprised that people were so hung up on that one line about media consumption, I thought the main point of the video was to address how some of us are focusing on the wrong things in life ( i.e. being considered 'hot').
There was a better way to make the point that one's confidence should come from more than their physical appearance. Instead of coming off as thoughtful, it seemed more like she wanted someone to feel bad about themselves for how they have internalized our society's fixation on looks as well as their shortcomings socially and how they spend their free time.
The point was there for sure. It just was expounded upon in a way that shows how she thinks of herself versus the people she views herself as better than. Then of course there are a ton of people trying to express a distaste of her words without actually stopping to think deeply about what's bothering them, so it seems like they're just "stupid". They're actually being reactive, probably because she touched a nerve that's been stomped on by others already. Most people aren't stupid, they're emotional and bad at regulation because our world acts as if that isn't an important life skill.
Im genuinely baffled that someone could just... Not have hobbies, outside of the media they consume? I like media like everyone else, ofc, its like sugar, but don't u guys get sick of just eating desserts? It's just sad bc you're missing out on so much Edit to clarify my point: I'm not saying that consuming media is bad! I love art, I'm an artist myself, I love comics, movies, games, and I'm chronically online just like anyone else. My point is just that having other hobbies will enrich your life, and it's never a bad thing to learn a new skill. If you love media, go find a hobby around it! Learn to draw, go study arts, join your local theater group, write a book! Be curious, learn new thing's !!! Participate in the areas you love, your life will not be worse off for it
I get your side but also like? Idk when I was 14-15 i basically just sat in my bed all day reading and occasionally going on walks, and I don't really consider walking a hobby. Of course before that I had hobbies, and I have tons of hobbies I enjoy now, but sometimes when you're really depressed and shit you just kinda. Don't. And I don't think I would have considered anything I do now to be hobbies before because I just didn't do it more than maybe once every two months .
@@DownBelowNagrind I mean yeah, probably not, but it's important to consider people with mental illness in those kinds of conversations I think. You can't really control who your videos are shown to yk?
ok I absolutely HATED her tone but GIRL HAS MANY POINTS!!! grabbing my popcorn real quick "do you have any hobbies outside media consumption" oh SH!T you got me..... it's bc I use youtube in place of having friends OOP-
i don’t like the original video, mainly her tone in it and the condescending attitude. also how she specifically targets women and not literally everyone? However I do think she is almost 100% right. i think that all of our media consumption (and i know we’re all sick of that term but i kinda gotta use it) is a real problem. we don’t doom scroll and rot in our beds all day because we necessarily want to. we’re all addicted to it, like it’s an addiction that the majority of us have. it feels good to just keep scrolling and keep consuming media, and no it’s not always bad at all but the point it’s getting to IS something worth talking about
@@TedBilk doesn't excuse that she's targeting only women. She didn't have to address women DIRECTLY. Men watch her vids too, having a larger audience of women doesn't make targeting those women okay.
not all of us are addicted to media. some of us actually have real problems aside from the pandemic, and rot in our beds due to depression/being disabled/neurodiverse and we use media consumption to cope because it makes us happy and distracts us, not make our problems worse. not all of us are addicted to our screens.
yeah this tone was what really irked me. the average person definitely has hobbies outside of media consumption, stop thinking everyone around you is an idiot, that is a symptom of narcissism.
It’s also important to remember that her video was about SELF-CONFIDENCE. Not your worth as a woman. Self-esteem is much, much more than being physically attranctive.
I think she should’ve found a better way to say it because it really just came off as projecting in my opinion 😭😭 and yes just a tiny bit of clarification can change the whole topic!! Also I absolutely love your hair!!!
i'll go too i guess. art programming writing language learning crochet i don't think i would be able to engage, or be good at any of these things without media consumption. yeah, even the evil, "bad" media consumption. but hey, i'm not a rich white lady from a big city in the usa, so what would i know? 😅
I never saw the tiktok until now, but I have seen the tweet from the thumbnail around. It wouldn't disagree that it could've benefited from some different phrasing, but I'm a bit sad at how many people were dismissing it when it's actually a pretty useful question to ask yourself once-in-a-while. Personally, I spend a lot of time thinking about music, discussing it with others, am in a number of music-based subcultures etc. I try my absolute best to be critical and I treat my enjoyment of it as an intellectual pursuit. Even then, I don't like the idea of my sense of self being dedicated to what I like about /other/ people. I've spent a fair amount of time in fandom spaces, especially when I was younger, and it's kind of alarming how mindlessly consumerist they can push you to be without even realizing. Many of the people who I saw deriding that tweet were people who I think would've benefited from finding something else to sink their teeth into once in a while. Particularly something they weren't essentially lead into enjoying through marketing hype. I've always been creative, but I'm writing more productively lately and I picked up guitar again and I would very much say it's been good for me!
as someone with too many hobbies I can't really imagine not having a hobby outside of watching videos and whatnot. I watch/listen to youtube a LOT but always while i'm doing something else, partly because i have adhd and partly because i just like to hear people's opinions and thoughts about things. I'm currently trying to diversify my hobbies because most of them are creative and hands on and also sitting in one spot for hours, so i now have rollerblades And skates (i found the blades at a yard sale for $10!!).
when i first saw this tiktok i was kinda confused about the hypocrisy with the reading a book thing, because like yes on a surface level that’s hypocrisy and looks kinda stupid, but then also you can read a book while also having hobbies outside media consumption? like you’re allowed to do both you don’t have to only do one or the other. idk, maybe the way i interpreted this was weird but yeah that’s what i first thought of also i love your hair in this video, the stars and the curls are really cool!! haven’t commented on any of your other videos i don’t think, but i’ve been watching for a while and i think i’ve been subscribed since you had like a few thousand subs, love your videos
this is something i have thought a lot about, and so i am posting my thoughts even though literally no one is gonna read this as there are 400 other comments and i'm 3 months late to the party, but here goes: i do not like the mentality that it's somehow bad to not make things to be viewed by other people. that's preposterous. yes, if you enjoy gardening and drawing and biking, there is absolutely no reason for you to not do that, but why should i have to do those things? i don't like getting dirt all over me, i just don't personally enjoy biking, and drawing makes me incredibly angry. i like stuffy indoorsy stuff, like watching history documentaries, reading scientific papers, playing games, philosophizing, and talking with internet friends. i don't write poems, i'm learning piano, but not to create songs and publicate them, but just to have fun playing piano by myself. i don't need to show my piano playing to anyone else, i don't want to. i don't need to make finished songs, i don't want to. i want to play free-style piano. and i don't want to play it in a club. i wouldn't consider it a hobby, as i don't do it that often, nor do i do deliberate practicing or anything, i just noodle around. am i a shallow one-dimensional person because of all this? why should i even care if i'm a shallow one-dimensional person, if i'm happy then i'm happy, i don't have to intrigue someone else with my behavior, goals and thoughts. i exist for myself. and i exist for myself because i want to. and other people create things for other people to enjoy because they want to. but i guess other people have got to watch out, because if they listen to that person's music too much, or get too into someone's literary works, or enjoy someone's art too much, they're only consuming media! and now they're a totally lame person who i personally do not find to be interesting! how does that thought process make any sense whatsoever???? yes, i do believe people should look inward and think about what they're currently doing, and think about if it makes them happy, and if it's fine for their health. but when someone looks inward on their own behavior and hobbies and such, they shouldn't be thinking about some weird social dogma about people-pleasing and higher intelligence, they should just be thinking about their own personal needs, and if those are being met, and how those needs can be met. why can't someone just work an office job and watch the news when they get home? how is that bad? is it bad just because i wouldn't want to have a conversation with them? why should they be strategizing trying to make themselves this appealing brand image for other people to marvel at? there's no sense behind it at all. if we're to think about truly, what the purpose of life is, i would say that it's living long enough to have children, and then having children. well, a lot of people (myself included) don't want to have children. now what? and what happens after someone has children, do they no longer have worth because they've completed the main goal in life? the way i view it, is that we are these weird little creatures put on this planet, with thoughts and emotions. and those emotions can be bad or good. and so, the purpose in life is to just pursue happiness, so long that it is full, healthy happiness, without detriment to your health, or other peoples' mental health or physical health. there are a million different ways to achieve this, and for some people that's being extremely "vain" and "materialistic". if someone just really cares about their looks, their image, and only consumes media, but they're not rude and they're moral, what needs to change? so long as they are happy and healthy what else matters? why do they have to have a riveting biography for me to read? why do they need to plant pretty flowers for me to look at? why do they need to write books for me to read? and yes, getting out commonly and limiting how long you view screens for is healthy, but staring really close up at paper and writing hunched over a desk all the time isn't either, you could get nearsighted and have carpal tunnel syndrome. anywho, what i'm gettin' at is, if someone is doing something that does not negatively affect them, or anyone else, why the hell should we tell them that what they're doing is wrong. and also get outside often, exercise and eat well, because those things are definitively good for you. but if you're on your phone sitting on your front porch soaking up the sun and listening to the breeze blow past the trees while you catch up on your social media, go right ahead. just don't do anything to a completely chronic and unbelievable degree.
Telling ppl to go read an actual book is not a contradiction to pls do things beside media consumption. Genuinely I know so many people who do not read books, fiction or non fiction. Ironically proving her point because people take both of those questions to illogical extremes. “Do you have hobbies outside of media consumption” becomes “never consume media”. “When was the last time you read a book” becomes “you should be reading so much you have no time to do anything else”. Ironically again, her point was about a balance. It’s less “you must know the information in this video off the top of your head or you’re stupid” and more “analyze how one dimensional you are.”
the "cant speak in public" seems so out of left field and meanspirited just like the "you cant even ask for more ketchup/correct the waitress about your order" Epic Internet Ratio Clap Back LIKE damn girl i didnt know being debilitatingly shy/potentially having an anxiety disorder was a crime
she’s not wrong tho, it’s something to work on. i have terrible social anxiety, but i’ve had to grow and learn how to do things that make me nervous. you can’t expect to be coddled forever, and when you’re an adult you have to talk to A LOT of people. especially when you start working. social anxiety sucks, but you can’t let it run your life
Right it’s almost like mentally ill people gravitate toward insular hobbies in the first place for a reason lol. As much as I agree with her on some points, the whole thing was just mean spirited
@@coolchameleon21 you're not wrong at all here, but a lot of people online treat it as some kind of like, failing on the anxious person's part, or like it's some kind of "gotcha." No one's asking to be coddled, it's just another one of those things where people online act superior over something stupid like never feeling uncomfortable talking in public or whatever
for me it's mainly because she targeted women specifically for no reason and went after people for their appearance (which is completely irrelevant), and that gross condescending and pretentious tone. i also hate the way she says "not hot". reminds me of the girl in high school that went out of her way to tell me boys wouldn't like me if i kept acting so weird. like okay?? and i'm supposed to care???
like yes addiction to digital media is a big problem but there was no reason to say it like that. and more importantly, shame doesn't work. telling people they're stupid does nothing but kick them deeper into the hole they've dug themselves into (or been pushed into either way)
I feel that, regardless of the vagueness and poor choice of words in the TikTok, there is truth in that we should have a balance on having hobbies and our media consumption. Heck, something that Wurd pointed out that I don't remember seeing other people discuss is that one can use the media they consume to branch out in other hobbies (like drawing or writing) and either find something new or engage with said media in a creative manner.
I'm tired of people extending the stigma further to all electronics-related activities. Making music on a computer is not "media consumption," it's production. Same with making a video. Writing code is not consumption. Messing around with modular synthesis is not consumption. Experimenting with CAD is not consumption. Arduino projects are not consumption. I will not "get off the screen."
oki, rewriting my comment. i am not offended or called out by what she said bc i have actual hobbies. the one thing i am annoyed at with her is her snooty attitude about reading. idk what it is about reading that makes people feel so much better than others but that's what i was partially getting from her. she reminded me of a friend who used to annoy me sm with that bc she felt so supior to others. like congrats u read. wnat a medal? like i know the benefits to reading, but i do not want to. i prefer manga, sue me. not everyone likes to read, not bc social media and short form content has rotted people's brains. which is a large reason for that. but some people just do not like it. but for me, i have a lot of hobbies that are just as fulfilling. and my friend literally passive agressivly told me off for listening to a free reading of Huckleberry Finn on youtuve. like girly. it was awful to read idc what anyone tells me💀 and i do actually enjoy reading. also i cant type on a computer, sorry for spelling mistakes.
The assumption that reading = smart and not reading = not smart is ableist asf, too. Plenty of people with disabilities either struggle a lot with reading or straight up can't read at all.
Tbh I think a lot of ppl felt called out. And I am one of them not even gonna lie. But what made me feel called out was I really didn’t engage in any hobbies. Even now, I watch a lot of commentary videos and videos abt the state of the world but I don’t retain anything. Im kinda tired after I spend 10 plus hours a day consuming content no matter what kind. Even if her delivery was brutal it did make me stop and think.
As someone who DOES have a hobby outside of media consumption, I don’t think that it’s necessary for everyone to have one. I feel like this argument is made because of this idea that everything we do has to contribute to society, or else it’s a waste of time. Which is kinda shitty in my opinion because we all need time to de-stress, and if watching T.V. helps people with that, why should we criticize them for it? My only problem is with people who are insecure about the fact that they’re not particularly good at anything, so they wrap their entire identity around consuming a certain type of media, and then delude themselves into thinking that they’re superior to others just because they have the ability to appreciate other people’s art- like people who make fun of others who have a “bad” taste in music, as if listening to music is some kind of accomplishment. If you’re someone who is bitter that you’re not talented at playing sports, or drawing, or writing, or any other kind of hobby, do something about it!
I think the problem with this argument is the idea that it has to be for the rest of the world. Doing something outside of consume is good for YOU. Who cares about contributing to the world? I like creating and doing things for myself. It makes ME happier. And I genuinely think most people would be happier that way as well.
i think she was completely right. i say this as someone who spends pretty much every waking hour in front of a screen... media consumption (mainly social media) in this current age is excessive. will i change my habits? probably not. but the fact remains that way too many of us spend our lives on the phone instead of living. we're addicted. there are healthy forms of media consumption (books, even TV) but anything relating to a phone/social media? largely unhealthy and people can't regulate themselves.
I'm someone who definitely is trying to regulate themselves in social media consumption. But I think your point on anything relating to being on the phone is bad was not really clear? I'm someone who draws traditionally and digitally and my phone carries my digital projects. Wouldn't that count as being a bad thing because it's phone related?? I'm genuinely lost here
@@weirddd469 no, i think using the phone for creativity like drawing is fine. i just think that with phones, it's a slippery slope for a lot of people to start downloading social media, doomscrolling etc. i think phones themselves are largely good, but there are too many possible distractions that end up making them more harmful for most people.
I think a lot of people are intentionally misinterpreting what she was saying and nitpicking the video to avoid the point and avoid uncomfortable feelings
She's saying that people emphasize looks as a sign of confidence when some of those people don't even know how to do the other things she listed, such as public speaking
its super ostricizing and insulting fr. i dont understand how people have the confidence to post stuff like this thinking they know it all and that they figured everything out and that theyre the first one to 'speak the truth'
The idea that you cannot consume media critically is exactly why the video sucks. It implies that you cannot engage with media in a way that is thoughtful or meaningful. When I watch TV who is to say I am not critically engaging in the media I’m watching vs when I read a book. Like is reading green eggs and ham better just because it’s a book lmao
You should have hobbies outside of tv regardless of how engaged you are in the media youre consuming. She didn't say you can't consume media critically, she said "what hobbies do you have outside of that?"
@@ayana9490 just because this person said they consume media doesnt mean they dont have hobbies bro. how about you read instead of just creating a strawman based on your idea of what argument some random person was making. just cause you THINK theyre being ignorant about her opinion doesnt mean they are, sometimes thats a sign that youre the one whos ignorant, especially if your only argument is "well she didnt SPECIFICALLY say this ONE SPECIFIC thing that you said so youre wrong". :/
@@ayana9490my question is, what hobbies does SHE have? because that tiktok seemed to simply come from a place of narcissism, of assuming other people are devoid of personality and interest.
@gurlgutzzz The entire comment I responded to is written on the basis that the girl in the tiktok said you can't consume media critically. I don't think thats what she meant so I expanded on my interpretation of the tiktokkers thoughts by saying its not about critical media consumption its about doing things OUTSIDE of consumption. It's not me just "nitpicking" one thing to say they're wrong. It was the fundamental idea expressed in the first sentence of their comment.
if you have hobbies you are a more interesting person, and thats something to be proud of. like imagine a hot person. now imagine if that person was really good at guitar. they just got cooler and hotter and more interesting to be around.
@@starinight6936Okay what if someone is hot and they build computers like home media servers like they built their own Netflix and you can go over to their house and watch any new movies for free cause they were smart enough to figure that out doesn't that equate to the same thing? See the logic here this is just too vague to make sense
Because we're not actually doing anything when we just consume media. Like we're only taking in info whereas it takes confidence to output. But I think that output can literally just be as simple as talking to someone else about media, like what we're doing right now
federal trade commission. they oversee things relating to business and such violations in the simplest terms- trade. fda takes care of food and med safety, food and drugs (medicine).
I'm making this comment before watching the full video, but after seeing her tik Tok. I think her take was incredibly privileged bc especially in 2021 and 2020 during the height the pandemic, people did not have money. People still don't have money to do anything outside of media consumption and outside of the home. her tiktok lacks the nuance of the fact that A people are broke and B) it's so hard to find a third space nowadays because our jobs take up 90% of our time. Also media consumption is the more often than not free or has free workarounds. People can't afford to go roller skating or boating like they could when we were younger. If you are doing those things you're privileged. 3 out of 4 Americans live paycheck to paycheck, we don't have time for things outside of media consumption unfortunately.
I don't think this is it... creative hobbies don't need to cost anything? it takes a pencil and paper to draw or write, bird watching can be done from a window, music can be created with free online tools. And you can still engage with them while being poor. I was a minimum wage essential worker throughout the pandemic, and I still found time. Yes, we have less time and energy than others, but that's all the more reason we should engage with our hobbies, because that was the only stuff that gave my life any meaning during the worst of the pandemic.
i don’t see how you can have time for media consumption and not have time for other hobbies…if you have free time, you have free time. plus, there are tons of free/affordable hobbies out there. i’m poor but i still have hobbies. hiking, walking, swimming in the river, bird watching, geo caching, renting books from the public library, and drawing are all extremely low cost/free. i knit and crochet, and it costs like $10 to get started. you can find yarn at the dollar store and buy a crochet hook for less than $5. you can also use safety pins or paper clips as stitch markers. people in poverty stricken countries still make art and have hobbies. do you think poor people just stared at the dirt in their spare time before smartphones existed?
Oh no, I actually agree here, and that is 100% my situation right now. I had a non-media consumption hobby (art), but I barely have any free time anymore because I am working constantly and, when I do, I'm so burnt out and tired that all I do is media consumption and not art. I would love to get back to art, but I just can't because I don't even have the free time. If anyone in the replies have a secret to unlock this, I would like to hear it.
@@DownBelowNagrind”music can be created with free online tools” yes, you can make music with free online tools, but it won’t sound very good, and it will eventually end up in you breaking down and finally spending the way too much money that FL studio costs.
Condescension aside, the point about confidence and glow ups needing to be rooted in more than just looks is spot on. She should have presented her point better but that part is valid
Yes like the overfixation on looks especially in our generation is crazy and it's root is social media consumption like we always see pretty people follow pretty people and we want to be like them so we obsess over it rather than actually important real life skills and in general self improvement people rather than buying their 50th selfcare product should go to therapy and action care about theirselves (im so sleepy rn i either talked nonsense or made a great take💕)
i think the thing that really pissed me off in the vid is when she said the thing abt "you cant even speak in public" cause that has nothing to do with the argument 😭? not everyone can speak in public cause they have rly bad anxiety (speaking as someone who has social anxiety myself), its not a thing you can just change instantly by not consuming media, idk it just sounds super entitled and privileged to me (love ur vids btw :3)
Being able to speak in public is connected to confidence, which was her main overarching topic. The original video was supposed to bring attention to how confidence should be coming from more than looks, which was semi overshadowed by how shittily she said it.
@@mewmew6158 i guess thats kinda true but it is still super shitty to go after people who cant speak publicly, i feel like even with confidence it can be super hard for some people
ftc is the federal trade commission, and off the top of my head they're in charge of like. creating and subsequently making sure companies follow advertising laws? put incredibly simply, obviously and they probably do other shit lol but the advertising side of it is what I'm personally familiar with.
She feels like a parody of Regina George from the original Mean Girls movie yet seems oblivious to it. It feels jarring...Like does she not know? Am I being pranked?
100% agree that her tone ruined her totally valid point from getting across to most ppl 😭 people were def taking it personally bc her tone comes across as a bit holier-than-thou, so people were quick to call her out for wearing makeup/her issues in wording where i think if she had literally just said it a bit nicer people would've been like oop she right
i think people are taking her video too seriously because they’re feeling personally attacked😭 i just think of it as a lighthearted comedic video reminding us about the importance of prioritizing more meaningful things in life and even though i am one of the people being called out by her i 100% agree
As someone who've been bedrotting for the last 2 month i wanna do stuff but the moment i step out of the house i spend a lot and in general having hobbies is expensive like my last hobby rubiks cube was so expensive i wanted a 6x6 cubeand that was like 30$ (tried to convert an expensive price in my country to the dolar so it's not exactly right) like i can't pay for that while i need to save up stuff for my school i would've had hobbies outside media consumption if i had the money to do yk😭
“There are better things to complain about” thats true of everything and you can be concerned about more than one thing. I find this a tired argument when ppl have no rebuttal. The issue she brings up is something thats very common in college i know a lot of people that all of their hobbies are watching movies and tiktok and listening to music and its fine but if youre not engaging with that in any meaningful way its not really a hobby. Its something i value a lot and why i try to pick up a lot of hobbies cause i like having skills and interests to fall back on and if you get a skill from a hobby its lasting. Not that i am better than these people in any way, actually a lot of them that i know want to have hobbies but cant find something that sticks. Its just definitely an issue for gen z that no because media has been our whole formative years there was less incentive to investigate other stuff
Most people who say they don't have hobbies need to realize drawing, reading, cooking, baking, painting, singing, dancing, skating, gaming, diy'ing clothes or room decor, thrifting, walking, running, working out etc are hobbies too !!!! :)
There is no contradiction in “when’s the last time you read a boom” and “do you have any hobby other than media consumption” it’s wild to me people apparently don’t understand that.
i thought the context of the original video had to do with dating and how more than ever the hobbies people list on their profiles are like "netflix and gaming" or their interests are only stuff like "anime, marvel movies, and binging sitcoms" because that i can totally understand. if you're someone who likes being outdoorsy or just likes going out and doing stuff but all you're encountering are people who sound like homebodies glued to a screen, that does kinda suck
English teacher here!! You did a great job explaining there/their/they’re. ☺️ Great points in this! I get so frustrated with this weird wave of anti-intellectualism, but I do hope that I never come across like the girl in the video. I never want to get up on a high horse about other peoples’ habits, especially not habits that were specifically engineered and enabled by media companies to milk attention from you. It’s unfair because it’s not entirely the consumer’s fault that they got addicted. That said, what concerns me is that people who consume the most media (and are likely the people defending media consumption) struggle so much with media literacy. For sure, goofing off on Tiktok every once in a while isn’t going to rot your brain. But if it’s what you spend the majority of your time doing, what do you even get out of it if you’re misinterpreting it constantly? How do you even manage to consume so much media without picking up on how to detect implicit language?
because wasting your life on screens and convincing yourself that you're "on top" or "slaying" or whatever the shit is bad thing bro. like how is does having no identity not sound alarming and horrifying to you?
I think that having hobbies outside of media consumption is good just as like, a creative outlet. Write, draw, knit, it's good for you!! But honestly I don't think the woman in the video had any good intentions in her video or at least, that's what I get from the way she said "but you're probably not" in terms of someone trying to uplift themselves. Like it was her nicer of a way to say "aren't indoor nerds lame and ugly??" or at least, that's the energy I got.
media consumption and interacting with media (esp critically) are similiar but different imo. latter is part of former, but not all of media consumption includes actually engaging with media on deeper level. I think that's what she meant by telling people to read, even if there are plenty of books created just for entertainment, so, just consumption. I hope i made my thoughts make sense lol
I think she made some great points but she took all these wide conceptual points and boiled it down to be misogynistic and kind of close minded in how she chose to present these points. It gave this aura of a lot of close minded points that were presented back in the day. I understand that there are some folks that are one dimensional but I’ve seen many people see women one dimensionally without actually knowing the person. We’ve had many people speak on the concepts she was trying to delve into without having brought in close minded vocabulary which makes people who saw the video ignore points being made because of the way it’s been said. She’s making these concepts come of very black and white when people are not black and white, especially not women when throughout history were seen very black and white. I think she could’ve made a great video with great points on these concepts without bringing women down and using wording that’s very small minded. Another point is that she was talking about confidence and how many people who are worried about confidence tend to fix it outwardly. Which is true, much of our confidence movement is put towards things we outwardly see but I’ve seen many struggle with confidence on issues inside and out. It’s just been plastered on media and consumed to fix these problems outwardly. Which is another topic entirely. Overall my issue with the video is that she took these broad topics and tried to sum it into a TikTok and executed it very poorly.
the problem was her intention,it was very obviously mean spirited and misogynistic and that colored her delivery and how it was perceived,I don't think anything she said hasn't been said already in better wording and delivery and in a much more compassionate and intelligent way,none of the things she said were something new I heard.
Some people might count it, but I wouldn't worry. Creative engagement with media can be very fulfilling The bad things about media consumption is not keeping a pulse on reality and letting media companies color your perception of reality. As long as you're engaging with other people, learning about the world, making experiences for yourself, you'll be fine
I get the video but the way she said it seemed condescending and snarky. Someone who really is offline, doesn't overconsume media, or has healthy boundaries on when and when not to consume media shouldn't act like they're any better because that's a weird thing to compare? They'd understand that we are in an age of distraction and a lot of these apps make sure that you can become easily addicted so they can make more money, so it would understandably be hard to just stop cold turkey.
I didn't think it was misogynistic. I don't even think she was bitchy. She has different values than other people, and shed light on how vein the world CAN be. But... As a pretty princess who lives life on and off the Internet, and feels so pretty every time they look in the mirror. I can admit that she has a point. But... So what. Other people don't have to value intellect until they're ready to.
As a dumbass, I will be invested in “Grammar with professor wurld” classes! (I had not great teachers when I was in elementary school so that’s why I’m not the best at grammar)
I do, I'm a tea afficionado, knitter, writer, cyclist, chess player, tarot reader, but even if I didn't have these I'd tell these people to take a hike. My biggest passion in life is being a critical viewer/reader and if I could only choose one hobby it'd be that. Storytelling is no less legitimate a passion.
Yes, that Tik Tok *is* from 2021! When I had a Tik Tok account, I followed her and I remember when it showed up on my FYP! She got so much hate and eventually was bullied off the app.
what I don't understand is when did it shift from engaging with media, something I've always seen as stimulating since it encourages you to use your brain, pick apart themes and the like, to... consumption. Idk it reminds me of those people on twitter who act like its weird to still be talking abt movies that have been out for like three months, it's so bizarre anyways, like damn do people know nuance exists? I've been getting into sewing with the hope of making puppets and also consume media, like... you can have hobbies and still watch things why is this even an argument. also im ngl she raised points but i think the fact that its a tiktok kinda contributes to the video's overall Not Great vibe for some people. that app is like a brightly colored poisonous frog to me like I get it
The phrase flattens down human experience. ‘Media consumption’ could mean listening to music, watching a UA-cam video, reading a book or watching porn. It’s all media consumption
@@TedBilkIt literally just basically says “being a human and consuming the things other humans create is bad” which isn’t really that well considering that’s nearly all you can do, unless you have the time and money to get a hobby that is right for you, I saw an argument that you can do art with a pencil and paper, which is cheap, but not everyone wants to do it, and wants to do a different hobby that’s expensive.
im sorry im not even 30 seconds into the video and theres been a bojack horseman clip, an asesexual flag, a smiling friends clip AND A TWENTY ONE PILOTS SONG????? was this video just made for me wtfff
I won't lie, I consume a lot of media (including books), but I also try to do pretty much everything else I can. I make costumes (was sewing while listening to this), draw, write, bake and cook, sing, act at a community theater... there's a lot of options of really satisfying and enjoyable things to do outside of media consumption and texting and I am shocked and confused whenever someone expresses some lack of interest in anything beyond. creating things is so fun and it's never a bad thing to do more of it.
I can't even spell misogynistic im just nosy i love being in people's business and i ended up on the political youtuber internet pipeline and i- i- i just 🥲want people to have rights and I wanna watch my little youtube shorts and eat popcorn n get crumbs in my bed
Honestly I never understood why this video gets so much hate. Society does place too much emphasis on women’s appearances and there’s more to building long lasting confidence than appearance.
WHATTTT AN ASEXUAL BLACK GIRL LIKE MYSELF??! WHO ALSO LOVES TO TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES?! We are literally twins. This is like a once in a blue moon experience I'm subscribing. Why aren't we friends yet? I mean whaaatt who said that- 👀
16:17 girl i don't think non native speakers have any problems with there their they're 😭 been studying english my whole life and I've never seen any teachers talk about anyone making those mistakes
As I see it, some people don't understand nuance. That's what I think caused so many to get annoyed. As for my thoughts. Media consumption, like anything, is okay as long as it isn't in excess. I won't say a thing of her using make up for two reasons. 1, I use a VR model for my current videos. 2, I think anyone who uses filters or are deliberate in their clothing selection are hypocrites for calling out someone for using make up. As for me, it varies. Sometimes it's for entertainment, sometimes for news, sometimes for research. And then there's just chilling to music, nature sounds, or other audio stimuli.
I remember when this video first spread outside of tiktok and I thought then and I still think now that people are taking what she said in bad faith. Her tone has something to do with it, since people don't know her and know that that was her whole schtick. But so does the fear of introspection. If you're not ready to confront aspects about yourself that are perhaps less than ideal can make you defensive. People read negativity into what she said because they want to find fault with it to avoid introspection.
Funny how if you rephrase "media consumption" to "appreciating art" it doesn't sound so bleak anymore. A hobby doesn't need to be productive, it doesn't need to be creative, you can just exist. You don't need to always be improving yourself. Sometimes you can just look out of the window at the scenery. It's fine. Life is not a competition to be the "most alive".
This is the ultimate take on this
This is very poignant! I completely agree. Captitalism and work culture has really ingrained in people that we need to constantly be one-upping each other and ourselves and I feel like that’s a very toxic way to live. The most important thing we should all worry about it just being kind to ourselves and everyone else. Maybe that’s a hot take but 🤷🏻♀️
I agree. There's a lot interesting to learn about modern media and their history. From the evolution of the technologies that made it possible, to evolution of art styles in cartoons, trends in music, etc., to the history of particular productions. The history of video games is downright fascinating.
@@ButtsiesVinegrette and of course this is the comment that almost sends me back into a depressive episode (not disagreeing but 😭)
I didn't interpret it as "consuming media at all is bad." I interpreted it as "doing nothing but consuming media is bad. You should have at least one hobby that adds something to the world or gets you out and about." Given this interpretation, there's not actually any contradiction. You can consume media (including books) IN ADDITION TO playing tennis or writing or whatever.
I agree. Hence also the "digital media" clarification feels unnecessary to me - you can critique both the fact that people do nothing but consume media while also recommending that they diversify that media diet as well.
Neither is bad, it's a hobby. Not everyone is gonna play tennis or do gardening, and people who consume media also contribute to society lol
@@Molly-iw1rc I agree. However, the act of consuming media itself doesn't contribute anything, in the sense that it does not directly produce anything that can be observed. It's contributive in the sense that it can change the way people think about things, which influences the things they do produce.
@@moribucci It produces knowledge... Experience...wisdom... understanding...that by itself is good enough lol It doesn't have to be "observed" for it to be a productive contribution. It produces friendship, community, passion, etc. I disagree with the notion that a contribution needs to be observed to count as something. And isn't that just a cycle of consumption. You consume, you create, you consume, you create, on and on. Neither is more important because they are both gonna fuel each other anyways.
@Molly-iw1rc I didn't say that whatever is produced has to be observed, I said that it has to be observable. Friendship and community are able to be observed. Additionally, I would argue that they're not produced simply by consuming media. To form friendship and community you have to interact with other people; it's a two-way street. Thus they fall under the category of "things beyond just passively consuming media"; they're exactly what I'm talking about, as much as is tennis.
Im rejecting media consumption by skipping this vid
LMAO
this is hilarious for me bc the sheer LEVELS of hyperfixation I have on certain media led me to researching lore that was semi-relevant to the media, which led to letting myself accept my love of history, archeology and myth for the first time in a decade, which led to studying dead languages and writing systems, learning to write by hand again, picking up a ton of historical crafts, learning to cook, and going back to school for my bachelor's. now I'm an archeology major hoping to specialize in early medieval linguistics. still not sure how Jensen Ackles' pretty boy eyelashes and they way his texas drawl comes out when he says "Cas" got me here but okie.
I think what she’s doing is calling out the fact that people are extremely one dimensional. I think it was unfair for her to specifically target women but I get what she means, all you care about are your looks. It’s extremely vain to just get up every day and put on your makeup and that’s all you are as a person. As far as the media consumption thing, her making a tiktok about why only consuming media is bad is ironic and intentional. Too much of a good thing becomes bad. I’ve experienced this mysel, I loved to watch “educational content” thinking I was bettering myself. Turns out 10+ hours of watching shit all day long really prevents you from soaking anything up and retaining any information.
Most retention comes from repetition. You can watch an educational video, but if you only watch it one time, with no additional reinforcement of that information, you're just consuming, not absorbing.
I feel like most people don't just get up everyday and put on their makeup and that's all they are as a person? kinda feels like a rehash of the "not like other girls" stuff from the 2010s when those memes acted like all that "other girls" did was obsess over makeup and clothing and boy bands with no autonomy or inner lives
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@@_kaleidoi think she’s referring to people who are so vain that their looks consume their entire lives. i’ve met people like that, and trying to have a conversation with them is like eating drywall. i’ve met men like this too, not just women. gym bros come to mind…
@@TheAdarkerglow I definitely agree with this, I got pretty heavy into music production and teaching myself the piano. I ended up watching more and more videos wondering what I was doing wrong until I realized I was prioritizing consuming educational media over, you know, actually playing the god damn piano. there needs to be a balance between consuming information and applying the knowledge you've consumed.
I think the reason books is often separated from other types of media in conversations like this is simply because it’s not instantly hitting the dopamine button in our brain. We have to “work” for the dopamine rather than just… staring at a screen and scrolling. Our brain seeks dopamine, it’s our reward chemical. When so much technology is built to exploit that, anything that isn’t feels laborious by comparison.
yes! i was struggling to articulate the difference and you did it perfectly
I don’t get how there’s a difference between scrolling and turning pages? A book is just an analog screen when it comes to “pick up a thing and get dopamine from consuming someone else’s work”.
@@emmanarotzky6565 I think it really depends on the book. There are books that require the same amount of effort as scrolling, and there are other books that are take more time and effort to read.
Not the ACE representation in this video 🏳️🌈
The Bisexual and Ace Solidarity Is so real though 😂. Thought I was ace before i knew i was bi and my brother is ace ❤❤❤
@@hexx2802 mee but with pansexual or ace lol
Yes such an underrepresented community
@@CamboigaYT asexual is not being attracted to people sexually for example (when non ace people are attracted to someone they might want to have sexual relations with them and what not but for ace people they either don't have that at all or there is another term: demisexual which falls under the umbrella of ace and it means you require a deeper emotional connection with a person in order to feel sexually attracted to them in that non ace way)
@@EmiliaSkade ok
idk why people get their panties in a twist when someones main or only hobby is media consumption. I love playing video games, and i constantly get told "well you have to have something other than that too"...no i dont? even though i do, theres no need for me conform to what others think as an "appropriate" hobby
like i get that looking at screens all the time probably isn't the best but like we don't "need" to find other hobbies lol. As long as you are happy and healthy it doesn't matter what your hobbies are
@@deesnyder8201 I mean, I think everyone should have a hobby outside of media consumption. Creativity is important, even if you're not great at what you're doing.
I guess because consuming implies that you get your identity externally whereas creating implies that you transform and make the identity yourself.
@@deesnyder8201 respectfully, as someone who used to think this way, nah. i found hobbies outside of gaming and screens and it’s been amazing. there’s nothing like creating something with your hands and getting outside to appreciate nature. i still game, but i also garden, hike, bake, sew, play piano, and crochet now. can’t imagine going back to just starting at a screen all day tbh
@@coolchameleon21 You're probably right. I've been wanting to get into more creative and outdoorsy hobbies for a while but im disabled and also have school and I usually don't feel like doing much after I get home. I'll have plenty of free time over the summer and I do want to try to go outside at least somewhat often (its gonna be a bit hard though because I'm gonna have a surgery to help with my disability and I'll have to deal with recovery) and I also want to get more into coding and 3d modeling and maybe make stuff with that.
I have lots of hobbies outside of media consumption. Being transgender, crying, drinking alcohol and crying, etc.
drawing, reading, looking at the time, watching the world go by (it never came by)
and also caring for a tamagotchi
Real (except the alcohol part)
Unless you count root beer
@@KavachiaVideo good, alcohol is literally just socially acceptable poison, stay far away lmaooo
@@deanpope2055 I mean it's not even legal for me yet anyway so
her tone was very condescending and this tiktok annoys me majorly but i do find the question “what are your hobbies outside of media consumption?” very great! and i say this as someone who does NOT have any hobbies outside of media consumption (i literally only read, play video games, and watch TV and movies) but being able to do something independent of a screen and using your own creativity is so great for your mental health. everyone should strive to find a non media consuming hobby
and i also feel like this video would not be nearly as controversial if she had simply… delivered it better without looking down on others. framing it as “people who don’t have hobbies are vapid and self obsessed” is just so unnecessary and it’s obvious that a good amount of people who tend to only consume media as a hobby are people struggling with mental health or who are neurodivergent
I wouldn't use the lack of a screen as a measure of whether a hobby is creative.
@@nataliealliepage7155 Was thinking of a way to point that out, as a writer with bad hand writing.
I love consuming media, and consuming non educational media doesnt mean i do so non-critically. I personally think you can be smart and have a great personality and also be a huge media consumer. Same with being obsessed with looks. Billions of people spend hours consuming media daily and to assume its because theyre shallow and dumb and dont have a personality is lame o rama! I think its kinda a "make someone up to get mad about" type thing she did there
Don't get me wrong, i dislike it when this leads to lack of media literacy and people miss important points and themes and morals because they're never looking for any, but I think THATS the problem. Not any other personal stuff about the people doing so that can't really be assumed just based on that.
I KNOW THAT WASNT HER MAIN POINT BUT I THINK THATS WHY PPL GOT MAD YK. Because they have low media literacy and that's what they took from that
I don't think she's saying media consumption is bad, I'm pretty sure she's saying that ONLY consuming media is bad.
It’s not about villainizing media, digital in this case, it’s about doing things outside of consumption. It’s good to take pride in your appearance, it’s bad to only care about your appearance. It’s good to have hobbies, it’s bad when those hobbies are solely based on consumption. It’s reductive to bring the argument to “online people dumb” when it’s clearly supposed to be a thought provoking conversation. The last line is what it is to make you uncomfortable and make you think. Not to make anyone a bad person.
@@gunsoup9530 I hadn't finished the video before I commented, I'm sorry :(
I think it’s lame how when someone makes an argument people search for contradictions instead of acknowledging the nuance in any given subject. Like yes, you can criticize overuse of media (digital in this case) with media. You can wear makeup while arguing that people shouldn’t be solely invested in their looks and neglect other facets of life and personhood in favor of that. I know media literacy has gone down but I guess I still get whiplash when I see the reward people get for being the quickest to draw some sort of “um actually” ☝🏻🤓 or mean ass comment without even engaging with the content in a conscious way.
this is literally the entire comments section of this video not having nuance and agreeing with her full stop without considering they might be wrong that nobody has hobbies anymore. and then when someone corrects them they do the uhm actually thing as if theyre thinking critically about this in any way
i think people like you and the girl who made the tiktok have a problem with using terminology you don't really understand. just yelling "media literacy!" and "media consumption bad!" just betrays how little you understand about what you so desperately want to speak about.
i recently took up gardening :-D it's literally so fun i feel so much better outside gardening than i ever have rotting scrolling on my computer or cellular device. i'm also a bike commuter (aka a loser without a license), but working on my bike is also very fun.
same! i just harvested some carrots today :3 may i also suggest crochet and/or knitting? 🧶 grandma hobbies are the best
@@coolchameleon21 crochet is goated !!!
I once got in a mini-argument over this, because when I said I write fanfiction as a hobby the other person said that still counts as media consumption but like?? It's literally not?? Idk maybe I'm wrong, but I think writing, regardless of whether it's tied to an existing property or not, is creating and is a hobby.
Ion know how people can look at writing and be like "ItS nOt A hObBy!" It's giving "cheerleading isn't a sport". Writing also isn't the same as reading or scrolling on your phone. It's creating something that wasn't there before and not consuming media.
@@starangel3737 exactly! And those same people don't say anything about creating other forms of art, like drawing or music, it's only ever writing that I see get singled out for some weird reason.
It’s more like media creation? I guess? It’s a hobby other than consumption, obviously, just like art, crafts, knitting/crochet, gardening, and so on.
@@wafflethyeah i feel like they would probably lump all fan-works together like that, be it fan fic fan art fan anything really, though I think fan fic is more widely decried as being unoriginal and uncreative, I know fan art is often also devalued in a similar way even in the art community, I saw one take that was basically "everyone posting fan art is just trying to cash in on the popularity of the original media none of them actually care" and like yeah some people do trend chase but like seriously???
A lot of people I've seen against her are just nitpicking her tone and are mad she hurt their feelings. I've seen very few actually engage with her points
In this economy people who have to work constantly don't have time for hobbies. When you're exhausted after your job you're likely going to sit in front of the TV or watch UA-cam instead of making art or whatever.
@@sophitiaofhyrule and yet many people manage to find fulfilling hobbies in their free time! Imagine actually doing something rather than making excuses. Yes it's HARD, but that doesn't mean it's impossible and it actually means it's really worth it to try. Every step I personally take towards diversifying my life and what I can do has improved my life so much. I only have so much free time. I'm not going to waste it sitting mindlessly in front of the TV.
I know… I don’t have an issue with her tone… it’s giving, “Betcha didn’t think about that! Did ya?” 😂
I think the internet got so pissed cuz she sounded really pretentious in that video. It’s really hard for people suffering from mental illnesses like depression or anxiety to get off of screens sometimes and do things. At least for me, that’s what made me angry. Shes also saying that thinking that you’re cool and appreciating yourself is wrong if you go on social media too much. How I interpreted it personally is her saying “if you have a bad headspace and can’t get off of social media, instead of getting help and feeling better about yourself, don’t think highly of yourself at all.” That’s why this video is frustrating to me at least. Also Wurld, love u girl but I think you’re giving her a lot of credit. Just watching the video and not assuming anything about her intentions, I found it rude and condescending to judge others. And if she did mean it how you thought, she should have worded it way better. Thanks for this video tho girl, love ur content 😘
i took it as people being foppish, vain, and shallow. they only care about being beautiful or aesthetic but they are hollow on the inside and only consume meaningless things mindlessly.
@@Man-ej6uv I think that’s an interesting way to portray it and if she said it a little differently I would think that too :3
tbh I think your reaction is valid- but also probably led to your interpretation not being in good faith. It seems like you took it very personally, and I don't think she was implying a lot of what you got. She never even gets close to implying you shouldn't get help if you're in a bad headspace, and I'm not sure where your pulling that from. I'm pretty sure that what she's saying is that you shouldn't base your self-worth on your appearance, and that by not engaging with the world beyond passive consumption, you make yourself a poorer person. She might be a bit rude about it, but she's also right. In a capitalist culture built upon consumption, creative and enriching hobbies are an undervalued but necessary aspect of life. Again, I don't think your wrong to feel the way you do, especially as a knee-jerk reaction, but I do think it's contributing to you interpreting this in the worst faith possible. Also, a little beside the point perhaps, but you SHOULD be getting away from the screens and doing something. While it's difficult, not doing so can really trap you in a depressive spiral (speaking from experience). I know it's difficult, and may even feel impossible, but getting up and doing things is the only reason I ever managed to overcome my depression.
@awesomecutieusername I think one thing that confused me a bit though is her complaining about media consumption when reading is media consumption? Even if her intentions were to help people read more or do other things than getting online that always puzzled me lol
@awesomecutieusername babe, I literally said it was my opinion from my experience and perspective? If she was more educated in the topic she would have used more tact in what she said and considered peoples experiences and pasts while making this discussion and speaking about it. I quite literally listened to exactly what she said and I think people should be able to like their looks without being judged for it, which is not what she said. She said people who think they look pretty but spend all their time on the internet are not pretty. I think that’s rude and pretentious to people who have image issues and are trying to be better. I hope you’d know that we have to consider everyone instead of people who are mentally stable and well. She never clarified this, which she should have. If she had added that in and worded what she said a little differently, I would agree for the most part. But if she is going to have this take online and post it, she should have had more tact and thought more before posting a lazy, uneducated opinion. Also, why does it matter how people look? People should feel good about themselves or at least accept themselves without feeling terrible for other circumstances. I’m probably not going to respond to you again because this argument is honestly pathetic. Thanks!
I actually interpreted the video as her discouraging people from focusing too much on looks and how we should focus on building inner value based on what we do with our time/ how we contribute to the community. Was surprised that people were so hung up on that one line about media consumption, I thought the main point of the video was to address how some of us are focusing on the wrong things in life ( i.e. being considered 'hot').
i do appreciate the fact that she said "name a hobby of yours outside of media consumption" so she knows that consuming media IS a hobby
There was a better way to make the point that one's confidence should come from more than their physical appearance. Instead of coming off as thoughtful, it seemed more like she wanted someone to feel bad about themselves for how they have internalized our society's fixation on looks as well as their shortcomings socially and how they spend their free time.
The point was there for sure. It just was expounded upon in a way that shows how she thinks of herself versus the people she views herself as better than. Then of course there are a ton of people trying to express a distaste of her words without actually stopping to think deeply about what's bothering them, so it seems like they're just "stupid". They're actually being reactive, probably because she touched a nerve that's been stomped on by others already. Most people aren't stupid, they're emotional and bad at regulation because our world acts as if that isn't an important life skill.
yeah the start of the video is an interesting argumnt to make but then her tone gets a bit too much in mean girl territory idk
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Everytime youtube user wurld posts i kick my feet up in the air like a little white girl
Im genuinely baffled that someone could just... Not have hobbies, outside of the media they consume?
I like media like everyone else, ofc, its like sugar, but don't u guys get sick of just eating desserts?
It's just sad bc you're missing out on so much
Edit to clarify my point: I'm not saying that consuming media is bad! I love art, I'm an artist myself, I love comics, movies, games, and I'm chronically online just like anyone else.
My point is just that having other hobbies will enrich your life, and it's never a bad thing to learn a new skill.
If you love media, go find a hobby around it! Learn to draw, go study arts, join your local theater group, write a book!
Be curious, learn new thing's !!! Participate in the areas you love, your life will not be worse off for it
When I don’t draw or play piano my brain literally dies
I get your side but also like? Idk when I was 14-15 i basically just sat in my bed all day reading and occasionally going on walks, and I don't really consider walking a hobby.
Of course before that I had hobbies, and I have tons of hobbies I enjoy now, but sometimes when you're really depressed and shit you just kinda. Don't. And I don't think I would have considered anything I do now to be hobbies before because I just didn't do it more than maybe once every two months .
knitting, crochet, and other fiber arts are all such good hobbies!! i’m autistic and knitting and crochet are my favorite form of stimming :)
@@ChaiLatte666 You might be reading this way too personally, I don't think she was targeting this at the clinically depressed...
@@DownBelowNagrind I mean yeah, probably not, but it's important to consider people with mental illness in those kinds of conversations I think. You can't really control who your videos are shown to yk?
ok I absolutely HATED her tone but GIRL HAS MANY POINTS!!! grabbing my popcorn real quick "do you have any hobbies outside media consumption" oh SH!T you got me..... it's bc I use youtube in place of having friends OOP-
i don’t like the original video, mainly her tone in it and the condescending attitude. also how she specifically targets women and not literally everyone? However I do think she is almost 100% right. i think that all of our media consumption (and i know we’re all sick of that term but i kinda gotta use it) is a real problem. we don’t doom scroll and rot in our beds all day because we necessarily want to. we’re all addicted to it, like it’s an addiction that the majority of us have. it feels good to just keep scrolling and keep consuming media, and no it’s not always bad at all but the point it’s getting to IS something worth talking about
I think she might just be targeting women because that's her audience
@@TedBilk doesn't excuse that she's targeting only women. She didn't have to address women DIRECTLY. Men watch her vids too, having a larger audience of women doesn't make targeting those women okay.
not all of us are addicted to media. some of us actually have real problems aside from the pandemic, and rot in our beds due to depression/being disabled/neurodiverse and we use media consumption to cope because it makes us happy and distracts us, not make our problems worse. not all of us are addicted to our screens.
@@sosparkleshine they didnt say it was okay weirdo
yeah this tone was what really irked me. the average person definitely has hobbies outside of media consumption, stop thinking everyone around you is an idiot, that is a symptom of narcissism.
It’s also important to remember that her video was about SELF-CONFIDENCE. Not your worth as a woman. Self-esteem is much, much more than being physically attranctive.
Telling people their hobbies make them shallow isn't very confidence inducing.
I think she should’ve found a better way to say it because it really just came off as projecting in my opinion 😭😭 and yes just a tiny bit of clarification can change the whole topic!! Also I absolutely love your hair!!!
thank you!
“Name a hobby outside of media consumption.”
Art, I draw for funsies.
for me it's
crafting
crocheting
drawing
water color painting
but mostly i draw :D. i like anything creative
i'll go too i guess.
art
programming
writing
language learning
crochet
i don't think i would be able to engage, or be good at any of these things without media consumption. yeah, even the evil, "bad" media consumption. but hey, i'm not a rich white lady from a big city in the usa, so what would i know? 😅
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I never saw the tiktok until now, but I have seen the tweet from the thumbnail around. It wouldn't disagree that it could've benefited from some different phrasing, but I'm a bit sad at how many people were dismissing it when it's actually a pretty useful question to ask yourself once-in-a-while. Personally, I spend a lot of time thinking about music, discussing it with others, am in a number of music-based subcultures etc. I try my absolute best to be critical and I treat my enjoyment of it as an intellectual pursuit. Even then, I don't like the idea of my sense of self being dedicated to what I like about /other/ people. I've spent a fair amount of time in fandom spaces, especially when I was younger, and it's kind of alarming how mindlessly consumerist they can push you to be without even realizing. Many of the people who I saw deriding that tweet were people who I think would've benefited from finding something else to sink their teeth into once in a while. Particularly something they weren't essentially lead into enjoying through marketing hype.
I've always been creative, but I'm writing more productively lately and I picked up guitar again and I would very much say it's been good for me!
as someone with too many hobbies I can't really imagine not having a hobby outside of watching videos and whatnot. I watch/listen to youtube a LOT but always while i'm doing something else, partly because i have adhd and partly because i just like to hear people's opinions and thoughts about things. I'm currently trying to diversify my hobbies because most of them are creative and hands on and also sitting in one spot for hours, so i now have rollerblades And skates (i found the blades at a yard sale for $10!!).
when i first saw this tiktok i was kinda confused about the hypocrisy with the reading a book thing, because like yes on a surface level that’s hypocrisy and looks kinda stupid, but then also you can read a book while also having hobbies outside media consumption? like you’re allowed to do both you don’t have to only do one or the other. idk, maybe the way i interpreted this was weird but yeah that’s what i first thought of
also i love your hair in this video, the stars and the curls are really cool!! haven’t commented on any of your other videos i don’t think, but i’ve been watching for a while and i think i’ve been subscribed since you had like a few thousand subs, love your videos
this is something i have thought a lot about, and so i am posting my thoughts even though literally no one is gonna read this as there are 400 other comments and i'm 3 months late to the party, but here goes: i do not like the mentality that it's somehow bad to not make things to be viewed by other people. that's preposterous. yes, if you enjoy gardening and drawing and biking, there is absolutely no reason for you to not do that, but why should i have to do those things? i don't like getting dirt all over me, i just don't personally enjoy biking, and drawing makes me incredibly angry. i like stuffy indoorsy stuff, like watching history documentaries, reading scientific papers, playing games, philosophizing, and talking with internet friends. i don't write poems, i'm learning piano, but not to create songs and publicate them, but just to have fun playing piano by myself. i don't need to show my piano playing to anyone else, i don't want to. i don't need to make finished songs, i don't want to. i want to play free-style piano. and i don't want to play it in a club. i wouldn't consider it a hobby, as i don't do it that often, nor do i do deliberate practicing or anything, i just noodle around. am i a shallow one-dimensional person because of all this? why should i even care if i'm a shallow one-dimensional person, if i'm happy then i'm happy, i don't have to intrigue someone else with my behavior, goals and thoughts. i exist for myself. and i exist for myself because i want to. and other people create things for other people to enjoy because they want to. but i guess other people have got to watch out, because if they listen to that person's music too much, or get too into someone's literary works, or enjoy someone's art too much, they're only consuming media! and now they're a totally lame person who i personally do not find to be interesting! how does that thought process make any sense whatsoever???? yes, i do believe people should look inward and think about what they're currently doing, and think about if it makes them happy, and if it's fine for their health. but when someone looks inward on their own behavior and hobbies and such, they shouldn't be thinking about some weird social dogma about people-pleasing and higher intelligence, they should just be thinking about their own personal needs, and if those are being met, and how those needs can be met. why can't someone just work an office job and watch the news when they get home? how is that bad? is it bad just because i wouldn't want to have a conversation with them? why should they be strategizing trying to make themselves this appealing brand image for other people to marvel at? there's no sense behind it at all. if we're to think about truly, what the purpose of life is, i would say that it's living long enough to have children, and then having children. well, a lot of people (myself included) don't want to have children. now what? and what happens after someone has children, do they no longer have worth because they've completed the main goal in life? the way i view it, is that we are these weird little creatures put on this planet, with thoughts and emotions. and those emotions can be bad or good. and so, the purpose in life is to just pursue happiness, so long that it is full, healthy happiness, without detriment to your health, or other peoples' mental health or physical health. there are a million different ways to achieve this, and for some people that's being extremely "vain" and "materialistic". if someone just really cares about their looks, their image, and only consumes media, but they're not rude and they're moral, what needs to change? so long as they are happy and healthy what else matters? why do they have to have a riveting biography for me to read? why do they need to plant pretty flowers for me to look at? why do they need to write books for me to read? and yes, getting out commonly and limiting how long you view screens for is healthy, but staring really close up at paper and writing hunched over a desk all the time isn't either, you could get nearsighted and have carpal tunnel syndrome. anywho, what i'm gettin' at is, if someone is doing something that does not negatively affect them, or anyone else, why the hell should we tell them that what they're doing is wrong. and also get outside often, exercise and eat well, because those things are definitively good for you. but if you're on your phone sitting on your front porch soaking up the sun and listening to the breeze blow past the trees while you catch up on your social media, go right ahead. just don't do anything to a completely chronic and unbelievable degree.
Telling ppl to go read an actual book is not a contradiction to pls do things beside media consumption. Genuinely I know so many people who do not read books, fiction or non fiction. Ironically proving her point because people take both of those questions to illogical extremes. “Do you have hobbies outside of media consumption” becomes “never consume media”. “When was the last time you read a book” becomes “you should be reading so much you have no time to do anything else”. Ironically again, her point was about a balance. It’s less “you must know the information in this video off the top of your head or you’re stupid” and more “analyze how one dimensional you are.”
the "cant speak in public" seems so out of left field and meanspirited just like the "you cant even ask for more ketchup/correct the waitress about your order" Epic Internet Ratio Clap Back LIKE damn girl i didnt know being debilitatingly shy/potentially having an anxiety disorder was a crime
she’s not wrong tho, it’s something to work on. i have terrible social anxiety, but i’ve had to grow and learn how to do things that make me nervous. you can’t expect to be coddled forever, and when you’re an adult you have to talk to A LOT of people. especially when you start working. social anxiety sucks, but you can’t let it run your life
Right it’s almost like mentally ill people gravitate toward insular hobbies in the first place for a reason lol. As much as I agree with her on some points, the whole thing was just mean spirited
She talking about having confidence and part of that is being able to speak in public
fr that seemed so ableist like sorry im nonverbal and physically cant talk most of time
@@coolchameleon21 you're not wrong at all here, but a lot of people online treat it as some kind of like, failing on the anxious person's part, or like it's some kind of "gotcha." No one's asking to be coddled, it's just another one of those things where people online act superior over something stupid like never feeling uncomfortable talking in public or whatever
I don't get what her wearing make up has to do with what she was talking about?? People dunking on her for that makes no sense.
for me it's mainly because she targeted women specifically for no reason and went after people for their appearance (which is completely irrelevant), and that gross condescending and pretentious tone. i also hate the way she says "not hot". reminds me of the girl in high school that went out of her way to tell me boys wouldn't like me if i kept acting so weird. like okay?? and i'm supposed to care???
like yes addiction to digital media is a big problem but there was no reason to say it like that. and more importantly, shame doesn't work. telling people they're stupid does nothing but kick them deeper into the hole they've dug themselves into (or been pushed into either way)
I feel that, regardless of the vagueness and poor choice of words in the TikTok, there is truth in that we should have a balance on having hobbies and our media consumption. Heck, something that Wurd pointed out that I don't remember seeing other people discuss is that one can use the media they consume to branch out in other hobbies (like drawing or writing) and either find something new or engage with said media in a creative manner.
I'm tired of people extending the stigma further to all electronics-related activities. Making music on a computer is not "media consumption," it's production. Same with making a video. Writing code is not consumption. Messing around with modular synthesis is not consumption. Experimenting with CAD is not consumption. Arduino projects are not consumption.
I will not "get off the screen."
oki, rewriting my comment. i am not offended or called out by what she said bc i have actual hobbies. the one thing i am annoyed at with her is her snooty attitude about reading. idk what it is about reading that makes people feel so much better than others but that's what i was partially getting from her. she reminded me of a friend who used to annoy me sm with that bc she felt so supior to others. like congrats u read. wnat a medal? like i know the benefits to reading, but i do not want to. i prefer manga, sue me. not everyone likes to read, not bc social media and short form content has rotted people's brains. which is a large reason for that. but some people just do not like it. but for me, i have a lot of hobbies that are just as fulfilling. and my friend literally passive agressivly told me off for listening to a free reading of Huckleberry Finn on youtuve. like girly. it was awful to read idc what anyone tells me💀 and i do actually enjoy reading.
also i cant type on a computer, sorry for spelling mistakes.
The assumption that reading = smart and not reading = not smart is ableist asf, too. Plenty of people with disabilities either struggle a lot with reading or straight up can't read at all.
Tbh I think a lot of ppl felt called out. And I am one of them not even gonna lie. But what made me feel called out was I really didn’t engage in any hobbies. Even now, I watch a lot of commentary videos and videos abt the state of the world but I don’t retain anything. Im kinda tired after I spend 10 plus hours a day consuming content no matter what kind. Even if her delivery was brutal it did make me stop and think.
As someone who DOES have a hobby outside of media consumption, I don’t think that it’s necessary for everyone to have one. I feel like this argument is made because of this idea that everything we do has to contribute to society, or else it’s a waste of time. Which is kinda shitty in my opinion because we all need time to de-stress, and if watching T.V. helps people with that, why should we criticize them for it?
My only problem is with people who are insecure about the fact that they’re not particularly good at anything, so they wrap their entire identity around consuming a certain type of media, and then delude themselves into thinking that they’re superior to others just because they have the ability to appreciate other people’s art- like people who make fun of others who have a “bad” taste in music, as if listening to music is some kind of accomplishment.
If you’re someone who is bitter that you’re not talented at playing sports, or drawing, or writing, or any other kind of hobby, do something about it!
I think the problem with this argument is the idea that it has to be for the rest of the world. Doing something outside of consume is good for YOU. Who cares about contributing to the world? I like creating and doing things for myself. It makes ME happier. And I genuinely think most people would be happier that way as well.
i think she was completely right. i say this as someone who spends pretty much every waking hour in front of a screen... media consumption (mainly social media) in this current age is excessive. will i change my habits? probably not. but the fact remains that way too many of us spend our lives on the phone instead of living. we're addicted. there are healthy forms of media consumption (books, even TV) but anything relating to a phone/social media? largely unhealthy and people can't regulate themselves.
I'm someone who definitely is trying to regulate themselves in social media consumption.
But I think your point on anything relating to being on the phone is bad was not really clear? I'm someone who draws traditionally and digitally and my phone carries my digital projects. Wouldn't that count as being a bad thing because it's phone related?? I'm genuinely lost here
@@weirddd469 no, i think using the phone for creativity like drawing is fine. i just think that with phones, it's a slippery slope for a lot of people to start downloading social media, doomscrolling etc. i think phones themselves are largely good, but there are too many possible distractions that end up making them more harmful for most people.
I think a lot of people are intentionally misinterpreting what she was saying and nitpicking the video to avoid the point and avoid uncomfortable feelings
I still don’t understand how not being able to speak in public has anything to do with the rest of her points as someone who can’t do public speaking😅
She's saying that people emphasize looks as a sign of confidence when some of those people don't even know how to do the other things she listed, such as public speaking
its super ostricizing and insulting fr. i dont understand how people have the confidence to post stuff like this thinking they know it all and that they figured everything out and that theyre the first one to 'speak the truth'
I think she just views anxiety and struggle as a sign of being less of a person
The idea that you cannot consume media critically is exactly why the video sucks. It implies that you cannot engage with media in a way that is thoughtful or meaningful. When I watch TV who is to say I am not critically engaging in the media I’m watching vs when I read a book. Like is reading green eggs and ham better just because it’s a book lmao
You should have hobbies outside of tv regardless of how engaged you are in the media youre consuming. She didn't say you can't consume media critically, she said "what hobbies do you have outside of that?"
@@ayana9490 just because this person said they consume media doesnt mean they dont have hobbies bro. how about you read instead of just creating a strawman based on your idea of what argument some random person was making. just cause you THINK theyre being ignorant about her opinion doesnt mean they are, sometimes thats a sign that youre the one whos ignorant, especially if your only argument is "well she didnt SPECIFICALLY say this ONE SPECIFIC thing that you said so youre wrong". :/
@@vomgurl jesus christ their point went so over your head😭
@@ayana9490my question is, what hobbies does SHE have? because that tiktok seemed to simply come from a place of narcissism, of assuming other people are devoid of personality and interest.
@gurlgutzzz The entire comment I responded to is written on the basis that the girl in the tiktok said you can't consume media critically. I don't think thats what she meant so I expanded on my interpretation of the tiktokkers thoughts by saying its not about critical media consumption its about doing things OUTSIDE of consumption. It's not me just "nitpicking" one thing to say they're wrong. It was the fundamental idea expressed in the first sentence of their comment.
Wurld is so adult swim core
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i don't get the correlation between our media consumption and working on confidence I don't get her pointtt 😭(also happy almost pride!!!)
if you have hobbies you are a more interesting person, and thats something to be proud of. like imagine a hot person. now imagine if that person was really good at guitar. they just got cooler and hotter and more interesting to be around.
@@starinight6936Okay what if someone is hot and they build computers like home media servers like they built their own Netflix and you can go over to their house and watch any new movies for free cause they were smart enough to figure that out doesn't that equate to the same thing? See the logic here this is just too vague to make sense
@@BigBrosFilmsbuilding computers isn't media consumption. This example doesn't track at all 😭😭
Because we're not actually doing anything when we just consume media. Like we're only taking in info whereas it takes confidence to output. But I think that output can literally just be as simple as talking to someone else about media, like what we're doing right now
@@TedBilk You didn't read my entire comment lol do better
"explain what the ftc does" i feel so slow for not knowing but im literally a kid 😭😭😭 also love the flag, happy early pride month 🫶🏾
I have no idea what the ftc is and im 29
federal trade commission. they oversee things relating to business and such violations in the simplest terms- trade. fda takes care of food and med safety, food and drugs (medicine).
@@yararivera2909 DAMN LOL
ftc (federal trade commission) is the reason we got advertising regulations for influencers made in the 2010s!
Is it an American thing? I'm 19 and have no clue what that is but I'm Scottish. Ik what the FDA is.
I'm making this comment before watching the full video, but after seeing her tik Tok. I think her take was incredibly privileged bc especially in 2021 and 2020 during the height the pandemic, people did not have money. People still don't have money to do anything outside of media consumption and outside of the home. her tiktok lacks the nuance of the fact that A people are broke and B) it's so hard to find a third space nowadays because our jobs take up 90% of our time. Also media consumption is the more often than not free or has free workarounds. People can't afford to go roller skating or boating like they could when we were younger. If you are doing those things you're privileged. 3 out of 4 Americans live paycheck to paycheck, we don't have time for things outside of media consumption unfortunately.
I don't think this is it... creative hobbies don't need to cost anything? it takes a pencil and paper to draw or write, bird watching can be done from a window, music can be created with free online tools. And you can still engage with them while being poor. I was a minimum wage essential worker throughout the pandemic, and I still found time. Yes, we have less time and energy than others, but that's all the more reason we should engage with our hobbies, because that was the only stuff that gave my life any meaning during the worst of the pandemic.
I think you are overestimating how expensive non-consumption based hobbies are
i don’t see how you can have time for media consumption and not have time for other hobbies…if you have free time, you have free time. plus, there are tons of free/affordable hobbies out there. i’m poor but i still have hobbies. hiking, walking, swimming in the river, bird watching, geo caching, renting books from the public library, and drawing are all extremely low cost/free. i knit and crochet, and it costs like $10 to get started. you can find yarn at the dollar store and buy a crochet hook for less than $5. you can also use safety pins or paper clips as stitch markers. people in poverty stricken countries still make art and have hobbies. do you think poor people just stared at the dirt in their spare time before smartphones existed?
Oh no, I actually agree here, and that is 100% my situation right now. I had a non-media consumption hobby (art), but I barely have any free time anymore because I am working constantly and, when I do, I'm so burnt out and tired that all I do is media consumption and not art. I would love to get back to art, but I just can't because I don't even have the free time. If anyone in the replies have a secret to unlock this, I would like to hear it.
@@DownBelowNagrind”music can be created with free online tools” yes, you can make music with free online tools, but it won’t sound very good, and it will eventually end up in you breaking down and finally spending the way too much money that FL studio costs.
Condescension aside, the point about confidence and glow ups needing to be rooted in more than just looks is spot on. She should have presented her point better but that part is valid
Yes like the overfixation on looks especially in our generation is crazy and it's root is social media consumption like we always see pretty people follow pretty people and we want to be like them so we obsess over it rather than actually important real life skills and in general self improvement people rather than buying their 50th selfcare product should go to therapy and action care about theirselves (im so sleepy rn i either talked nonsense or made a great take💕)
i think the thing that really pissed me off in the vid is when she said the thing abt "you cant even speak in public" cause that has nothing to do with the argument 😭? not everyone can speak in public cause they have rly bad anxiety (speaking as someone who has social anxiety myself), its not a thing you can just change instantly by not consuming media, idk it just sounds super entitled and privileged to me (love ur vids btw :3)
Being able to speak in public is connected to confidence, which was her main overarching topic. The original video was supposed to bring attention to how confidence should be coming from more than looks, which was semi overshadowed by how shittily she said it.
@@mewmew6158 i guess thats kinda true but it is still super shitty to go after people who cant speak publicly, i feel like even with confidence it can be super hard for some people
ftc is the federal trade commission, and off the top of my head they're in charge of like. creating and subsequently making sure companies follow advertising laws? put incredibly simply, obviously and they probably do other shit lol but the advertising side of it is what I'm personally familiar with.
I think they also do stuff with product recalls
@@raeganj6744 yes I believe you're right, and also I think they try to stop monopolization? (great job guys 🙄)
Idk I think she just sounds annoying like it’s not that deep she just seems obnoxious and like she has a superiority complex
Damn as soon as I typed that you mentioned the superiority complex
Nailed it.
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She feels like a parody of Regina George from the original Mean Girls movie yet seems oblivious to it. It feels jarring...Like does she not know? Am I being pranked?
Always love to see other ace ppl
"Do you have any other hobbies outside of media consumption"
Yeah, I make music, write fanfics and draw for fun
100% agree that her tone ruined her totally valid point from getting across to most ppl 😭 people were def taking it personally bc her tone comes across as a bit holier-than-thou, so people were quick to call her out for wearing makeup/her issues in wording where i think if she had literally just said it a bit nicer people would've been like oop she right
i think people are taking her video too seriously because they’re feeling personally attacked😭 i just think of it as a lighthearted comedic video reminding us about the importance of prioritizing more meaningful things in life and even though i am one of the people being called out by her i 100% agree
As someone who've been bedrotting for the last 2 month i wanna do stuff but the moment i step out of the house i spend a lot and in general having hobbies is expensive like my last hobby rubiks cube was so expensive i wanted a 6x6 cubeand that was like 30$ (tried to convert an expensive price in my country to the dolar so it's not exactly right) like i can't pay for that while i need to save up stuff for my school i would've had hobbies outside media consumption if i had the money to do yk😭
“There are better things to complain about” thats true of everything and you can be concerned about more than one thing. I find this a tired argument when ppl have no rebuttal. The issue she brings up is something thats very common in college i know a lot of people that all of their hobbies are watching movies and tiktok and listening to music and its fine but if youre not engaging with that in any meaningful way its not really a hobby. Its something i value a lot and why i try to pick up a lot of hobbies cause i like having skills and interests to fall back on and if you get a skill from a hobby its lasting. Not that i am better than these people in any way, actually a lot of them that i know want to have hobbies but cant find something that sticks. Its just definitely an issue for gen z that no because media has been our whole formative years there was less incentive to investigate other stuff
your hair is so cutee i love the stars
unrelated but needed to be said
thank yew! :D
right?!?!??! i was thinking the exact thing!!!!!
Most people who say they don't have hobbies need to realize drawing, reading, cooking, baking, painting, singing, dancing, skating, gaming, diy'ing clothes or room decor, thrifting, walking, running, working out etc are hobbies too !!!! :)
There is no contradiction in “when’s the last time you read a boom” and “do you have any hobby other than media consumption” it’s wild to me people apparently don’t understand that.
She's scolding you for not consuming media then turning around and scolding you for consuming how is that not a contradiction
no audio for the bojack clips... its over
i thought the context of the original video had to do with dating and how more than ever the hobbies people list on their profiles are like "netflix and gaming" or their interests are only stuff like "anime, marvel movies, and binging sitcoms" because that i can totally understand. if you're someone who likes being outdoorsy or just likes going out and doing stuff but all you're encountering are people who sound like homebodies glued to a screen, that does kinda suck
English teacher here!! You did a great job explaining there/their/they’re. ☺️
Great points in this! I get so frustrated with this weird wave of anti-intellectualism, but I do hope that I never come across like the girl in the video. I never want to get up on a high horse about other peoples’ habits, especially not habits that were specifically engineered and enabled by media companies to milk attention from you. It’s unfair because it’s not entirely the consumer’s fault that they got addicted.
That said, what concerns me is that people who consume the most media (and are likely the people defending media consumption) struggle so much with media literacy. For sure, goofing off on Tiktok every once in a while isn’t going to rot your brain. But if it’s what you spend the majority of your time doing, what do you even get out of it if you’re misinterpreting it constantly? How do you even manage to consume so much media without picking up on how to detect implicit language?
She ate me uppppp. Like I really can’t spell faroah 😔
I found her tone so annoying, like why is she so pressed by the matter?
Also, what a beautiful flag you got there 😭💗
because wasting your life on screens and convincing yourself that you're "on top" or "slaying" or whatever the shit is bad thing bro. like how is does having no identity not sound alarming and horrifying to you?
I think that having hobbies outside of media consumption is good just as like, a creative outlet. Write, draw, knit, it's good for you!! But honestly I don't think the woman in the video had any good intentions in her video or at least, that's what I get from the way she said "but you're probably not" in terms of someone trying to uplift themselves. Like it was her nicer of a way to say "aren't indoor nerds lame and ugly??" or at least, that's the energy I got.
"name a single hobby u have outside of media consumption" miss ma'am u just told us to ... read more? thats literally media consumption?? 😭
this comment made me screech
media consumption and interacting with media (esp critically) are similiar but different imo. latter is part of former, but not all of media consumption includes actually engaging with media on deeper level. I think that's what she meant by telling people to read, even if there are plenty of books created just for entertainment, so, just consumption. I hope i made my thoughts make sense lol
Reading books did cause moral panics back when it was the new cool high tech thing.
Did... did you not watch the beginning of the video?
Can you watch the video bruh
I think she made some great points but she took all these wide conceptual points and boiled it down to be misogynistic and kind of close minded in how she chose to present these points. It gave this aura of a lot of close minded points that were presented back in the day. I understand that there are some folks that are one dimensional but I’ve seen many people see women one dimensionally without actually knowing the person. We’ve had many people speak on the concepts she was trying to delve into without having brought in close minded vocabulary which makes people who saw the video ignore points being made because of the way it’s been said. She’s making these concepts come of very black and white when people are not black and white, especially not women when throughout history were seen very black and white. I think she could’ve made a great video with great points on these concepts without bringing women down and using wording that’s very small minded. Another point is that she was talking about confidence and how many people who are worried about confidence tend to fix it outwardly. Which is true, much of our confidence movement is put towards things we outwardly see but I’ve seen many struggle with confidence on issues inside and out. It’s just been plastered on media and consumed to fix these problems outwardly. Which is another topic entirely. Overall my issue with the video is that she took these broad topics and tried to sum it into a TikTok and executed it very poorly.
the problem was her intention,it was very obviously mean spirited and misogynistic and that colored her delivery and how it was perceived,I don't think anything she said hasn't been said already in better wording and delivery and in a much more compassionate and intelligent way,none of the things she said were something new I heard.
Does drawing characters from the media i consume count as media consumption even tho its like, home cooked media instead of store bought media??
Some people might count it, but I wouldn't worry. Creative engagement with media can be very fulfilling
The bad things about media consumption is not keeping a pulse on reality and letting media companies color your perception of reality. As long as you're engaging with other people, learning about the world, making experiences for yourself, you'll be fine
@@medicinemouse7647 okay wanted to make sure, now i can draw old gay robot yaoi in peace
@@sundownermgr 👍
i would say no because the drawing aspect isn't media consumption, the media consumption is just the middle man to your hobby of drawing
I get the video but the way she said it seemed condescending and snarky. Someone who really is offline, doesn't overconsume media, or has healthy boundaries on when and when not to consume media shouldn't act like they're any better because that's a weird thing to compare? They'd understand that we are in an age of distraction and a lot of these apps make sure that you can become easily addicted so they can make more money, so it would understandably be hard to just stop cold turkey.
My hobbies outside of social media is exercising, drawing, and 'sometimes' reading.
She literally said "some of you didn't read books since a long time" so it was logical she was talking about social medias
the people who misinterpret what she said just have zero digital media literacy
exactly. she’s literally giving helpful advice and people are getting offended and angry over it. she didn’t do anything wrong and i stand by that
I didn't think it was misogynistic. I don't even think she was bitchy. She has different values than other people, and shed light on how vein the world CAN be. But... As a pretty princess who lives life on and off the Internet, and feels so pretty every time they look in the mirror. I can admit that she has a point. But... So what. Other people don't have to value intellect until they're ready to.
As a dumbass, I will be invested in “Grammar with professor wurld” classes!
(I had not great teachers when I was in elementary school
so that’s why I’m not the best at grammar)
I do, I'm a tea afficionado, knitter, writer, cyclist, chess player, tarot reader, but even if I didn't have these I'd tell these people to take a hike. My biggest passion in life is being a critical viewer/reader and if I could only choose one hobby it'd be that. Storytelling is no less legitimate a passion.
Yes, that Tik Tok *is* from 2021! When I had a Tik Tok account, I followed her and I remember when it showed up on my FYP! She got so much hate and eventually was bullied off the app.
what I don't understand is when did it shift from engaging with media, something I've always seen as stimulating since it encourages you to use your brain, pick apart themes and the like, to... consumption. Idk it reminds me of those people on twitter who act like its weird to still be talking abt movies that have been out for like three months, it's so bizarre
anyways, like damn do people know nuance exists? I've been getting into sewing with the hope of making puppets and also consume media, like... you can have hobbies and still watch things why is this even an argument. also im ngl she raised points but i think the fact that its a tiktok kinda contributes to the video's overall Not Great vibe for some people. that app is like a brightly colored poisonous frog to me like I get it
I cannot stand the phrase 'media consumption'.
wwhy is it cuz its a buzzword now
@@childofgod759It's way too vague to make sense it's like saying going outside is air consumption it's so stupid
@@BigBrosFilmsoml bro I just don't think you understand what the phrase means and are taking the word consumption literally 😭
The phrase flattens down human experience. ‘Media consumption’ could mean listening to music, watching a UA-cam video, reading a book or watching porn. It’s all media consumption
@@TedBilkIt literally just basically says “being a human and consuming the things other humans create is bad” which isn’t really that well considering that’s nearly all you can do, unless you have the time and money to get a hobby that is right for you, I saw an argument that you can do art with a pencil and paper, which is cheap, but not everyone wants to do it, and wants to do a different hobby that’s expensive.
im sorry im not even 30 seconds into the video and theres been a bojack horseman clip, an asesexual flag, a smiling friends clip AND A TWENTY ONE PILOTS SONG????? was this video just made for me wtfff
I won't lie, I consume a lot of media (including books), but I also try to do pretty much everything else I can. I make costumes (was sewing while listening to this), draw, write, bake and cook, sing, act at a community theater... there's a lot of options of really satisfying and enjoyable things to do outside of media consumption and texting and I am shocked and confused whenever someone expresses some lack of interest in anything beyond. creating things is so fun and it's never a bad thing to do more of it.
the ace flag
WURLD LIKED MY COMMENT YIPPE
I can't even spell misogynistic
im just nosy i love being in people's business and i ended up on the political youtuber internet pipeline and i- i- i just 🥲want people to have rights and I wanna watch my little youtube shorts and eat popcorn n get crumbs in my bed
SHE UPLOADED YESSSSSSSSS
The world shant be an equal place until WURLD is at 100K.
You’re my valuable informational media consumption
WOOOOOO WURLD DID IT AGAIN, THANK YOU WURLD. It was a long two weeks since WURLD dropped in youtube
It•s okay to be a Priestess, Pure, Just, and Strong .
Wurld posted a video, the world is healing
PBS Idea channel made a really good video about media “consumption” which is relevant / pairs well with this video
8:40 im literally watching this while working out 😭 a+ for me
Honestly I never understood why this video gets so much hate. Society does place too much emphasis on women’s appearances and there’s more to building long lasting confidence than appearance.
WHATTTT AN ASEXUAL BLACK GIRL LIKE MYSELF??! WHO ALSO LOVES TO TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES?! We are literally twins. This is like a once in a blue moon experience I'm subscribing. Why aren't we friends yet? I mean whaaatt who said that- 👀
16:17 girl i don't think non native speakers have any problems with there their they're 😭 been studying english my whole life and I've never seen any teachers talk about anyone making those mistakes
As I see it, some people don't understand nuance. That's what I think caused so many to get annoyed.
As for my thoughts. Media consumption, like anything, is okay as long as it isn't in excess.
I won't say a thing of her using make up for two reasons. 1, I use a VR model for my current videos. 2, I think anyone who uses filters or are deliberate in their clothing selection are hypocrites for calling out someone for using make up.
As for me, it varies. Sometimes it's for entertainment, sometimes for news, sometimes for research. And then there's just chilling to music, nature sounds, or other audio stimuli.
I remember when this video first spread outside of tiktok and I thought then and I still think now that people are taking what she said in bad faith. Her tone has something to do with it, since people don't know her and know that that was her whole schtick. But so does the fear of introspection. If you're not ready to confront aspects about yourself that are perhaps less than ideal can make you defensive. People read negativity into what she said because they want to find fault with it to avoid introspection.