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  • Scottish author and critic Will Jordan, aka The Critical Drinker, offers biting, insightful, and often hilarious critiques of modern cinematography. His straightforward analysis of plots, characterization, dialogue, and ideological narrative in modern film has earned him over 1.7 million UA-cam subscribers. The Critical Drinker is the author of the “Ryan Drake” novel series and co-authored “Deadly Cargo” with James Patterson. He is also Peter’s favorite movie and TV critic.
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    0:00 Intro
    5:55 Identity politics in movies
    11:10 #MeToo in film
    16:15 Activism in film
    21:50 Star Trek
    26:15 What to watch
    35:40 Advice to Hollywood writers and studios
    48:40 Lack of good cinema today
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  • @drpeterboghossian
    @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +109

    The crossover you didn't know you needed! Be sure to subscribe to the channel, as I now do regular livestreams where you can interact in the chat and via superchat. I appreciate you all!

    • @ellie698
      @ellie698 10 місяців тому +1

      8:52
      Which is why "Fallon" Fox, a male who identified as a woman and then bragged about breaking women's heads in the ring was so detestable

    • @justinpaul3110
      @justinpaul3110 10 місяців тому +2

      I would have loved a bit more of a philosophical dive here. Not super-deep, but a bit of an exploration of what makes a good story.
      I did like that observation of Sci-fi being a speculation of the future based on attitudes of the present.
      That was an interesting point.

    • @amarissimus29
      @amarissimus29 10 місяців тому +1

      If you're involved, I need it. The Drinker is on a serious roll. This is the big leagues for reality supremacists. Cheers.

    • @adrianmeyer2157
      @adrianmeyer2157 10 місяців тому

      I listened in work earlier, a brilliant talk and I never knew you were such a nerd Peter haha. I watch a film or series, then watch Critical's take on it and always opens my eyes to things I never thought about.

    • @douglasherron7534
      @douglasherron7534 10 місяців тому

      What surprises me most from this conversation is that you, as an American, have not only heard of Blake's 7 but you've watched it all the way through twice! 😀
      I watched it when it first came out on tv in the UK when was seen as a Star Wars type drama - with cheaper sets/ locations...

  • @Steel_Wrath
    @Steel_Wrath 10 місяців тому +353

    My favorite reoccurring blunder of Hollywood is an actor or derector telling half the population this movie is not made for them, then getting upset when said population didn't go see their movie.

    • @GorgeousRoddyChrome
      @GorgeousRoddyChrome 10 місяців тому +41

      Along with telling the public they are racist or fascists or whatever for attending the movie, not liking it, and panning it on Rotten Tomatoes.

    • @bobross1829
      @bobross1829 10 місяців тому +30

      Or even better when the population that they did make the movie for does not show up either and they realize that their "audience" is either invisible, do not even like those movies, or is soo tiny that even if they did go, it still is a massive flop.

    • @Steel_Wrath
      @Steel_Wrath 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bobross1829 True!!!

    • @Steel_Wrath
      @Steel_Wrath 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GorgeousRoddyChrome You didn't know giving something bad review are on if the 15 signs your fascist? The other 14 is commenting on youtube so we're fucked.

    • @TitaGoose
      @TitaGoose 10 місяців тому +3

      Tiny hats

  • @davidoconnell1173
    @davidoconnell1173 10 місяців тому +76

    “Modern writers can’t replicate meaning” ….spot on!

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688 10 місяців тому +71

    This conversation is a breath of fresh air. If I want to be lectured - I go to Mass. I only have Netflix for my granddaughter. I am sick of watching a movie be ruined by having to follow a formula. And it's taking over.

    • @drpeterboghossian
      @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +5

      Thanks. I appreciate that.

    • @dukecity7688
      @dukecity7688 10 місяців тому +9

      @@drpeterboghossian I appreciate you. I am very angry and sorry that you have been bad mouthed and labeled. It is wrong. I have a feeling that in less than thirty years ( I'll be dead) this will turn around. Know why? The overly empathetic, immature hysterical voices will grow up.

    • @tamashumi7961
      @tamashumi7961 10 місяців тому

      If this lecturing could have any good impact at least. But the woke preachings are only to the detriment of a society.

  • @jkkjeldsen8249
    @jkkjeldsen8249 9 місяців тому +9

    As a woman, I totally agree with Peter about the predictable but unrealistic kick-ass female in every film. That's one reason I love film noir. The females are often fem fatales who get slapped around but are conniving killers in a more realistic way.

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 2 місяці тому +1

      For sure, women have needed to be clever in ways that socially engineer situations. They are not as strong as men. For sure there are women trained to fight who would absolutely beat men who are not but a woman beating a man that is also trained to fight? The chances are slim depending on the martial art.

  • @jkonior1
    @jkonior1 10 місяців тому +92

    Peter Boghossian and The Critical Drinker--together at last! Great interview!

  • @Ratgon
    @Ratgon 10 місяців тому +125

    What a great interview. I love it when two of my favorite people come together when i'd least expect it.

  • @thomasberrigan4386
    @thomasberrigan4386 10 місяців тому +63

    My wife and I regularly roll our eyes when watching modern films/tv shows these days. Entertainment since 2016, you know what I mean, has become insufferable and I think its effects will be reflected in society in unfortunate ways. On the subject of movies: saw alien(1979) when I was 18, diverse crew, thought nothing of it at the time. Ellen Ripley was strong character throughout all of those movies, the same with Sarah Connor in the first two terminator films. They were great characters who happened to be women. Now at age 37, I’m told the character can only be great if they’re a woman or whatever else you want to shoe horn in. I used to be blind to someone’s sex, race, sexuality etc - in other words seeing everyone the same. Now we are forced to break people down into groups and treat them accordingly or special because they fall into x or y group and that creates division and even animosity and I’m afraid we’re going to see a lot of sane, reasonable progress that was made in past for all those groups be undone because of this.

    • @avengemybreath3084
      @avengemybreath3084 10 місяців тому +5

      It’s already undone. Unfortunate

    • @sylviam6535
      @sylviam6535 10 місяців тому +5

      That progress has already been done, and that was the desired result of this propaganda.

    • @codinghusky5196
      @codinghusky5196 10 місяців тому

      ...you just described how I became racist and mysogynist after being a leftie for 40 years. Now I'm a woman who hates women and steers clear from brownies even if a solid half of them are whiter than myself. I cannot help but percieve them as entitled creatures who I want nothing to do with.
      That said, if I moved to the USA, I'd probably use the tanning facilities to get the benefits of the fact I can Slav to Hispanic in a matter of 2 sunny days. Too bad I'm past college, I'd rock for the dibs on getting in courtesy of my Italian gyppo great-great-great grandmother... but maybe there's still a big movie production role out there for me see as I totally fulfill the only 2 requirements for a major movie role: 1. I have a poosay, 2. I brown easily... kinda can't blame people for using what's out there.

    • @taradalik1405
      @taradalik1405 9 місяців тому +6

      Same. It’s horrible what is being done. And this is also happening in many sectors of society, especially in corporations - DEI trainings, etc. They are creating resentment, and this will backfire in a very ugly way.

    • @EveryDooDarnDiddlyDay
      @EveryDooDarnDiddlyDay 9 місяців тому +2

      They aren't writers and actors and directors and producers...they're all activists.

  • @Wagnar6000
    @Wagnar6000 10 місяців тому +89

    This is amazing the UA-cam crossover the world needed . Did not expect this , loved it .

    • @drpeterboghossian
      @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +13

      Thank you!

    • @Wagnar6000
      @Wagnar6000 10 місяців тому +4

      @@drpeterboghossianhonestly thank you , keep doing what you do. It is important.

    • @Xenumiscagive
      @Xenumiscagive 9 місяців тому

      ​@@drpeterboghossianLOVED FIREFLY

  • @Orvulum
    @Orvulum 10 місяців тому +93

    Story-telling by committee? Politicization? Rehashing old movies? Corporatization? Immature writers? Sexism? Superimposition of ideologies?

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 10 місяців тому +22

      Definitely all of the above. The tiresome trope that "Anyone can be whatever they want!" is not true. I'm too short for women's basketball, so what? -- and some people just aren't good scriptwriters, directors, cinematographers, or any of the other skills required for a movie to be great.
      We need to make meritocracy great again, if we want great movies again.

    • @Orson2u
      @Orson2u 10 місяців тому +11

      PLUS confirmation bias. Group-Think on steroids.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 10 місяців тому +4

      All I know is I can only watch older movies and TV shows anymore. Currently I'm watching The White Queen mini series. Set in the Middle Ages, not ethnic minorities in historically impossible settings, I'm thinking the black Ann Bolyn, and yes powerful women, queen's no less, but still physically weaker than men.

    • @mrginge143
      @mrginge143 10 місяців тому +3

      You sure audiences aren’t just all racist? xd that’s what my commissar on twitter tells me

    • @Theactivepsychos
      @Theactivepsychos 10 місяців тому

      @@zxyatiywariii8can I ask what era or eras (limit it to 5 or ten year blocks) were the best and why?
      Some of the films from the last five years have been as good as any. My favourite periods are 58-63, 68-73, 90-96 and 05 - 11.
      Best films from each are north by north west, Lawrence of Arabia, big lebowski and tinker tailed soldier spy. I’d say my favourite film of recent years is joker. I don’t know how people gauge whether todays films are better / worse cos there have been the most terrible films in every decade. The thing is now that there are far more movies made than other decades by x4 compared with 1940s. Are you sure it’s not just a nonstick fallacy. You remember the best from the past.

  • @SgtBuck01
    @SgtBuck01 10 місяців тому +16

    I will never forget going to see Rise of Skywalker with my dad, when they were explaining how the fleet of ships on Exegal are grounded and he just shouts "WHAT?!"

  • @cuteanimalseverywhere7620
    @cuteanimalseverywhere7620 10 місяців тому +17

    I’m having a break from woke and fake movies and fictional TV and sticking to things with real people and ideas- like you two!

  • @fwabble
    @fwabble 10 місяців тому +20

    The Last starfighter deserves so much more appreciation

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 10 місяців тому

      I grew up on it far more than Star Wars or Star Trek.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 9 місяців тому

      Can I offer flight of the navigator and Howard the duck into the frame..

  • @pfeilspitze
    @pfeilspitze 9 місяців тому +8

    14:00 Death on the Nile (2022) really tripped this one for me. It's started out ok, but all of a sudden I noticed The Message front and center, and it was immediately obvious as a result what had to be the problem. And in a *mystery* it's even more important than in other genres that you can't just rule people out for meta-narrative reasons.

  • @Dave5400
    @Dave5400 9 місяців тому +3

    Speaking of "negative" stereotypes and predictable characters, there's one thing I always notice in films from around the 1950's to today that never gets talked about:
    Think of any film with an transatlantic cast (i.e. not something like Star Wars which is obviously English) and I'm going arbitrarily to use Fantastic Voyage (great film, by the way) as an example, but it really could be one of thousands of popular films to the modern day.
    Now ask yourself: who is most likely to be the baddy, and who is most likely to be the goody?
    Answer: 9 times out of 10, the goody is the brash American (who I should add always gets the girl), and the baddie is the eccentric Englishman (note, not British which could mean Scottish, Welsh or Irish).
    I don't particularly have anything against stereotypes, but I really get fed up of films that are predictable like this and yet pretend they are not. Really ruins the atmosphere when you can just say "here we go again" with the characters as their roles are predictably unravelled.

  • @ErikDeMann
    @ErikDeMann 10 місяців тому +6

    Likely one of the best and most honest movie analytics and critics of the 21th century, without actually being one.

  • @maxprize829
    @maxprize829 10 місяців тому +15

    “Every time she opens her mouth she wipes 10s of millions of dollars off of that movie”. LOL😂

  • @Hexensohn
    @Hexensohn 10 місяців тому +14

    15:24 in 28 Days Later, there's a scene where some not so nice guys have a black zombie guy chained up. I remember people were pissed about that, even. The context of the scene was irrelevant, it was the imagery. People were pissed at Resident Evil 5 having mostly black enemies, even though it was based in Africa and absolutely no one cared that the enemies in Resident Evil 4 were all Spanish.

    • @mern2974
      @mern2974 10 місяців тому +1

      Lol

    • @TheGoldenCapstone
      @TheGoldenCapstone 9 місяців тому +2

      I remember the 28 Days Later complaint. It didn't last long because that was during the early 2000's so no one took woke complaints seriously.

  • @LEAHCIM71457
    @LEAHCIM71457 10 місяців тому +8

    Peter Boghossian don't forget ESG Score as an influence on Hollywood . Great talk. Thanks !

  • @Zagy21
    @Zagy21 10 місяців тому +39

    Peter! I would like to recommend one more movie critique who is just more into the postmodern/marxist aspects, “The Little Platoon”! Wonderful Brit. guy with excellent analysis!

    • @drpeterboghossian
      @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +4

      Thank you

    • @edwoodsr
      @edwoodsr 10 місяців тому +5

      Next long flight, Little Platoon's 2.5 hour Barbie review would be a better choice than (say) The Flash.

    • @CleverGirlAAH
      @CleverGirlAAH 10 місяців тому +5

      Oh I absolutely second it. He's my favorite of the 'IDW film critics'. He's the Douglas Murray of film hehehe

    • @avengemybreath3084
      @avengemybreath3084 10 місяців тому

      @@edwoodsrepic

    • @AcidifiedMammoth
      @AcidifiedMammoth 10 місяців тому

      Absolutely incredible he is!

  • @tomk8729
    @tomk8729 10 місяців тому +14

    Astonishingly as a Scot myself I'd never come across Will Jordan. Duly rectified and subscribed. Thanks Peter! And what an episode.

  • @jamesw2414
    @jamesw2414 10 місяців тому +16

    The Critical Drinker's review of the new and updated version of Scooby-Doo is epic!

    • @jorgemartinez42069
      @jorgemartinez42069 10 місяців тому

      Adults watching Scooby Doo and complaining about the politics of it isn't cringy to you? I think the woke stuff getting shoved in by producers and writers is dumb, but... It's freaking Scooby Doo. Do adults really have that much free time to care about the message of Scooby Doo?
      It just seems like outrage bait rather than being something people truly care about. That's all the right and left do these days. So lame.

  • @BradPork69
    @BradPork69 10 місяців тому +15

    Babylon 5 is the best sci fi tv series ever. Love the evolution of Londo Molari alongside G'Kar.

    • @emdo.unlimited555
      @emdo.unlimited555 10 місяців тому +3

      When Sheridan exposed both Vorlons and Shadows for their pettiness, that got me so hard.

  • @ghostbuttster
    @ghostbuttster 10 місяців тому +7

    I came across a quote some months back that I've been desperately trying to find again, but paraphrasing, it said something like; movies and TV shows used to have an illusion that you could believe in and escape in, but now the illusion has been broken because movies and TV chooses to "lecture" the viewer in what it thinks is right and wrong.

    • @suzybearheart530
      @suzybearheart530 10 місяців тому +1

      I haven’t seen the original quote so I can’t speak to how well you captured it but I read your comment and totally agree with the sentiment. Most of us watch movies to be entertained on some level - not be lectured by out-of-touch bullies who think we must all think the same.

  • @suzybearheart530
    @suzybearheart530 10 місяців тому +23

    One of my favorite Cobra Kai moments - Johnny takes a call at his Dojo.
    Johnny “we accept boys and girls. Gender WHAT? Hey, is this a prank call?” 😂

    • @JezaLoki
      @JezaLoki 9 місяців тому +9

      Yes! And when his new student says he’s on the spectrum and Johnny says “yeah? Well, get off that thing.”

  • @thibauthanson7670
    @thibauthanson7670 10 місяців тому +6

    I can confirm, Stargate SG1 has aged perfectly. The only issue is the old (CRT) monitor that start to disapear after a season or two.

  • @rafangirl1
    @rafangirl1 10 місяців тому +17

    So happy to see some love for Farscape! Such an incredible story arc. I've never forgiven SyFy for cancelling it.

    • @makatron
      @makatron 10 місяців тому +1

      Farscape was ahead of its time, but at least we got 4 seasons of it.

    • @droopytitlikka
      @droopytitlikka 10 місяців тому +1

      Still holds up today, written by people that clearly had an plan for the main story. But I totally agree, just like that it was gone and far too soon.

    • @NewSpirituality
      @NewSpirituality 9 місяців тому +1

      @@makatron Have you not seen the two part finale that came after the end of season 4?

    • @makatron
      @makatron 9 місяців тому

      @@NewSpirituality or course I did. 😎

  • @coltimgregory
    @coltimgregory 10 місяців тому +17

    Two power-house intellects! Such a refreshing conversation. Thank you for your service to the empire!

    • @drpeterboghossian
      @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +4

      Our pleasure!

    • @_nebulousthoughts
      @_nebulousthoughts 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@drpeterboghossian hey Peter if you really like scifi watch or read The Expanse. Also keep up the great work!

  • @marcusaxel3425
    @marcusaxel3425 10 місяців тому +9

    In the last Terminator movie, they portrayed Sarah Connor as a clueless pathetic Boomer or something. The bad ass female icon from the 80s had to be mocked and humbled to make way for a younger Woke woman with more melanin. Why? Who knows? As if Sarah Conner getting hunted down through space and time by an indestructible cyborg is a form of privilege because she's white. Intersectionality is bonkers.

  • @RictaScale.Official
    @RictaScale.Official 10 місяців тому +11

    Wow. Did not expect this.
    2 top fellows. Keep up the great work.

  • @tharkun21280
    @tharkun21280 10 місяців тому +14

    I am SO GRATEFUL you're talking about this. I mention these things about movies to some friends, and they think I'm crazy.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 10 місяців тому

      I’ve even met one adult guy that genuinely liked that Amazon Prime masterpiece known as Rings of Power.

    • @Say_When
      @Say_When 10 місяців тому

      ​@@sirrathersplendid4825
      Oh barf!...
      10 seconds to answer
      Last good movie thoroughly enjoyed watching... Like you remember you felt about movies when you were growing up
      Go
      Blade runner 2049.... Oh and I almost forgot.. holy shit... Once upon a time in Hollywood... Because Nolan Villeneuve in Tarantino get blank checks... They are the only ones that get blank checks.. every other actor that is trying to make something that they would want to watch... These movies get carpet bombed with retarded executive producers throwing their woke virtual signaling 2 cents. That completely break the gearbox.... And corporate notes that remove anything even remotely interesting or actually.... GASP .... Truly funny..
      Before that.. I'll think it's pre 2010...

    • @michaeldavid6832
      @michaeldavid6832 9 місяців тому

      This is why they're called "normies". They'll eat any swill poured into the trough.

    • @tharkun21280
      @tharkun21280 9 місяців тому +1

      @@sirrathersplendid4825 Nooooooooooo! lol. They should just rename the show "Cringe of Power."

  • @lesliefish4753
    @lesliefish4753 10 місяців тому +3

    What happened to Marvel is that, first, they signed up with Disney, and , second, that Stan Lee died and nobody after him wanted to defend the integrity of his creation. As for Star Trek, it pretty much died after "Voyager" ended.

  • @ninjaskeleton6140
    @ninjaskeleton6140 10 місяців тому +6

    I love Critical Drinker, one of the best youtubers out there, all his channels are worth checking out.

  • @eporcheetahka5086
    @eporcheetahka5086 9 місяців тому +5

    Whenever a movie description includes the phrases "A modern retelling" or "made for a modern audience " it's pretty much an instant NO go for me as the trend for those tends to be some kind of propaganda/ideological push over quality story telling.

  • @iandaut1146
    @iandaut1146 10 місяців тому +5

    So when is James and Helen going to interview the Drinker? Great show BTW.

  • @larry-ludwig
    @larry-ludwig 10 місяців тому +5

    Wow, I was not expecting this interview. Love Critical Drinker's channel.

  • @justinmytwocents3551
    @justinmytwocents3551 10 місяців тому +5

    really nice to see you two together, great interview, thanks guys.

  • @fillzone
    @fillzone 10 місяців тому +4

    What a delightful crossover! Thanks to the both of you for having this conversation.

  • @WesterGuard
    @WesterGuard 9 місяців тому

    What an amazing interview with The Drinker! Thank you for doing this, Peter!

  • @greaser1945
    @greaser1945 10 місяців тому +13

    I could only tolerate the first four episodes of Picard season one and then abandoned the whole series. However, I was persuaded by Dave Cullen to give season three a shot. I have to say it was enjoyable and while not perfect it was an example of what the whole series should have been like. I think you’ll like it Peter.

    • @erinlikesacornishpasty4703
      @erinlikesacornishpasty4703 10 місяців тому +1

      Strange New Worlds is good. I was shocked at how much I've enjoyed it.

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 10 місяців тому

      The final episode of season 1 was the first one that felt like a proper star trek episode

    • @stackels97
      @stackels97 9 місяців тому +2

      May I ask, because I trusted drinker and gave a a shot and absolutely hated it, what you found was different about season 3?
      I found it insulting and horribly written, so I'm really trying to understand why people are claiming that its any better than season 1 or 2.

    • @Nerdporeal
      @Nerdporeal 9 місяців тому

      Season 3 was bad.

  • @tomtillerman2334
    @tomtillerman2334 10 місяців тому +7

    Thank you, Peter, for speaking out about Discovery! I'm a lifelong Trekkie who has watched every episode of every show (OK, I may have missed a few Deep Space Nine episodes). Discovery was so bad it made me despair that Trek was dead. However, for the most part, Strange New Worlds has brought back some hope! I am (mostly) enjoying it.

    • @tomtillerman2334
      @tomtillerman2334 10 місяців тому +1

      The last season of Picard was also watchable from a nostalgia point of view.

  • @MrCau5e
    @MrCau5e 10 місяців тому +1

    This was a great conversation to listen to. Thanks for having Drinker on Peter.

  • @TMBTM
    @TMBTM 10 місяців тому +3

    About A.i: When I watch a movie I'm not just watching "a movie", I'm watching the work of human beings. That's what I want to see. I want to follow the creative path of an artist along the years. With ups and downs. I'm waiting for the next Spielberg movie because I like the guy and I feel a connection with his work, I'm not waiting for the next random story "in the style of Steven Spielberg with all the cool things I want to see". I won't lie, if tomorrow I can enter the words "Show me the movie adaptation of Heir To The Empire" I'll probably want to see it. So there are ways that A.I could be fun and interesting, and A.I can also be a tool of creation used by artists, but that whole thing about pressing a button getting what you want to see... I don't know. Always seeing what we want to see sounds boring, lol. And it would deconnect people from each others even more.

  • @hokutomaster89
    @hokutomaster89 10 місяців тому +1

    Unexpected and much appreciated and needed!

  • @jezzamundo4720
    @jezzamundo4720 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow - what a great podcast! Now Peter needs a sci - fi writer podcast where we explore the philosophical themes & concepts in current sci-fi!

  • @chall7211
    @chall7211 10 місяців тому

    Great interview with my favourite UA-cam people!!!!

  • @LordMoe74
    @LordMoe74 10 місяців тому +2

    Peter, you are 100 % correct on Trek. Thanks for this colab, loved it. Cheers

  • @GeneralZod99
    @GeneralZod99 10 місяців тому +6

    I enjoy Will's biting wit when he gives his take on movies. The tone/timber/pitch (whichever one is the correct word) of his voice and his accent are the proverbial cherries on top for me.

    • @emdo.unlimited555
      @emdo.unlimited555 10 місяців тому

      "MODERN AUDIENCES" and "THE MESSAGE".. I snort and guffaw every time

    • @HappyCynic
      @HappyCynic 10 місяців тому +1

      Timbre?

  • @estelja
    @estelja 10 місяців тому +9

    I like the baseball analogy where the studios would now just prefer to hit a consistent single rather than go for a home run where they might strike out. Perfect formula for mediocrity where they can almost predict exactly how many people will watch.

    • @emdo.unlimited555
      @emdo.unlimited555 10 місяців тому

      The same in basketball as the focus shifted to 3-pointer strategies

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi 10 місяців тому

      Except they keep mostly getting their predictions wrong. It's like going for the single, but still consistently failing to get a run in at all.

  • @Michael_1138
    @Michael_1138 10 місяців тому +10

    I’m also a CD fan, Peter. I’m thrilled you got to talk to him.

    • @drpeterboghossian
      @drpeterboghossian  10 місяців тому +2

      Me too! I hope I didn’t fanboy out too much!

    • @dirftboth20
      @dirftboth20 10 місяців тому

      You did. Just like many of us would have. And it was great. @@drpeterboghossian

  • @gavinruneblade
    @gavinruneblade 10 місяців тому +14

    Anyone having a hard time finding good shows to watch should check out some Korean Dramas. Iris is an incredible spy series about a conspiracy to prevent peace talks between north and south Korea. Kingdom is midieval korean warriors vs zombie apocalypse. Arthdal Chronicles is an awesome fantasy about a prophecy being badly misinterpreted. They are really putting out high quality shows with great writing.

    • @avengemybreath3084
      @avengemybreath3084 10 місяців тому +1

      Where to find them?

    • @gavinruneblade
      @gavinruneblade 10 місяців тому

      Netflix and lots of other places.@@avengemybreath3084

    • @jonathansteel8565
      @jonathansteel8565 10 місяців тому +1

      I wouldn't add REVENANT. It's a Spooky evil spirit's crime drama. Good story & genuinely creepy AF at times. in UK & Ireland it's on Disney + (read back 1st line should be I would add)

    • @adamgates1142
      @adamgates1142 9 місяців тому +1

      Every Filipina woman I know is obsessed with k dramas

    • @gavinruneblade
      @gavinruneblade 9 місяців тому

      Can confirm.@@adamgates1142

  • @carynfisher9463
    @carynfisher9463 10 місяців тому +4

    My father, who passed away many year ago, would have loved this. A Sci-Fi fan/amateur philosopher himself, I just want to add some of his favorites to your list:
    Earth 2
    Space: Above and Beyond
    Alien Nation (I know he saw the movie and the show, but I was pretty young and can't remember if he had a preference for one over the other)
    V (the original, obv.)
    Quantum Leap

  • @CalmBeforeTheStorm76
    @CalmBeforeTheStorm76 10 місяців тому +1

    Great choice, Peter!! Love this guy. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @henrys2403
    @henrys2403 10 місяців тому +2

    The Drinker! What a pleasant surprise.

  • @noelienoelie8425
    @noelienoelie8425 10 місяців тому +3

    8:40 top movie! I think its called "Jet Lee Unforgiven" Danny the dog, it's got Morgan freeman in it too. That toilet stall fight scene is amazing and the fight choreography all round is top notch.

  • @duaneswab3420
    @duaneswab3420 9 місяців тому +1

    Farscape was definitely an "S-Tier" series and Stargate: Universe being cancelled because MGM could no longer afford to produce it was criminal. The first 5 episodes were awfully dark and the shaky camera caused me to feel nauseated but Season 2 it hit its stride, IMHO.

  • @name-vi6fs
    @name-vi6fs 10 місяців тому +3

    The Drinker's comment about avoiding politics and pointing out the logical issues is spot on. The politics are going to get called out tangentally anyway because they're illogical.

  • @toddmitchell9014
    @toddmitchell9014 10 місяців тому +3

    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein
    I believe that is the motto of most Hollywood studios, especially Disney.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 9 місяців тому

      Isn't that the guy I see on my TV trying to sell me smart meters?

  • @Knuck_Knucks
    @Knuck_Knucks 10 місяців тому +1

    " Be careful what you offer there, " indeed ! Great chat gentlemen. A welcomed duo. 🐿

  • @michaelbuddy
    @michaelbuddy 10 місяців тому +5

    Terminal List is a mini series on Amazon that definitely wasn't lefty focused. Author Jack Carr adaptation. Really good in my opinion. I've watched several times through. I love revisiting it every few months.

    • @makatron
      @makatron 10 місяців тому +1

      Criminally short, it deserved at least 2 more episodes. Chris Pratt was a great Reese.

    • @johnkrstyen7351
      @johnkrstyen7351 9 місяців тому +1

      All the hit peices for the show are great. They are full of cope

    • @makatron
      @makatron 9 місяців тому

      @@johnkrstyen7351 it's because it's male focused and not a single vegan feminist trans or whatever they're pushing.

  • @robsawalker
    @robsawalker 10 місяців тому +8

    Brilliant video. Will's books are great too, perfect for a holiday by the pool with a few beers. And well done Peter for doing what you do - it's a huge risk to be reasonable these days, thank you for putting yourself out there!

  • @Hexensohn
    @Hexensohn 10 місяців тому +8

    The first season of the Terror is excellent if you like claustrophobic, suspense/horror. It's a fictionalized telling of the story of the ill-fated Franklin expidition for the Northwest Passage in the Arctic.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 10 місяців тому

      I agree, I watched that

    • @helenkane8594
      @helenkane8594 10 місяців тому

      That was good what atmosphere! The sound really worked to making the feel of the show. Like Nomads that old Mctiernan movie, really penetrating powerful mood in that film.

    • @suzybearheart530
      @suzybearheart530 10 місяців тому +1

      Ooh thanks for reminding about that one. I haven’t watched it yet but it looked really good!

    • @blueberry212121
      @blueberry212121 9 місяців тому

      It's amazing

  • @amazingronaldo9656
    @amazingronaldo9656 10 місяців тому +5

    I was waiting to see if you guys mentioned B5 when running down Sci Fi shows! My favorite Sci Fi show ever!! I would put Expanse next for me. I am relatively afraid of JMS rebooting B5 because of the current culture in the entertainment industry and how much they will pressure him to put ideological elements into the show.

  • @CC-ps7ct
    @CC-ps7ct 10 місяців тому +2

    This is a cross-over I never thought I would see. I'm up for it.

  • @w1cked001
    @w1cked001 10 місяців тому +1

    No way! The critical drinker on Peter's podcast? Maybe there's some good left in the world after all.

  • @sanzusi943
    @sanzusi943 9 місяців тому

    It's so funny to see these crossovers that you wouldn't expect.

  • @alamataslim5820
    @alamataslim5820 9 місяців тому +1

    53:15 Robert Smalls would make an excellent movie. Man escapes slavery by stealing a ship and sailing it into Northern Territory to where he is anointed as a Captain. He ends up buying the house his previous owner lived in after he passed away and let’s the wife live out her old days because she is ill I believe. He ends up joining congress later on, man is a legend.

  • @jeromedangelo7028
    @jeromedangelo7028 10 місяців тому +3

    Will has the sexiest accent since Sean Connery.

  • @prodigygod1
    @prodigygod1 10 місяців тому +5

    I found the Drinker about a year and some change ago and he was an instant favorite. I'd see a review posted on his channel then go watch the movie i didnt plan to watch before just so I can watch his video and understand and fairly judge his criticism. The only criticism I have is he doesn't review everything!

    • @adamgates1142
      @adamgates1142 9 місяців тому

      He reviews children movies. I've never seen a "critic" with more shallow knowledge in all my life.

    • @johnkrstyen7351
      @johnkrstyen7351 9 місяців тому

      My girlfriend never watched alot of film or TV shows. Me loving them started going through shows and films. For a bit we would watch one that I loved and would explore then Critical Drinker would about a week later do a review he does of older films and perfectly encapsulate why I enjoyed said movie so much.
      Me exposing her to Critical Drinker and other such channels breaking down film and TV has also made her a big fan

  • @Doutsoldome
    @Doutsoldome 10 місяців тому +1

    This is a crossing of the streams I never expected. I hope the universe doesn't explode!

  • @designforlife704
    @designforlife704 10 місяців тому

    Well here's a hell of a thing.
    I studied your epistemology techniques years ago when i chaired a secular society.
    I live in Will's town, same accent.
    Epic.

  • @penitentone6998
    @penitentone6998 10 місяців тому +1

    How did I miss this on my feed? Wow

  • @jfb.8746
    @jfb.8746 10 місяців тому

    Great collab!

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 10 місяців тому +1

    Great interview.
    A historical character that should have a movie:
    Charles Martel (The Hammer).
    But somehow I doubt it would be made.

  • @1900dany
    @1900dany 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember being so tired of Hollywood reusing old IP's when the Total Recall remake came out. That was what, 2012? Then Jurassic World really set me off, with it being clear they weren't bothering to truly try anymore, just pumping out big brand name series with minimal thought to the stories. Last few years I've instead gone back to older shows and movies I never found a chance to watch and am much happier.

    • @alexgillis9446
      @alexgillis9446 10 місяців тому +1

      Imagine the ahem, 'person' who legit ok'ed the replacement of Schwarzenegger with...Colin Farrell??!!! Hope that person never worked again.

    • @adamgates1142
      @adamgates1142 9 місяців тому +1

      The movies were a problem well before wokeness took over. I remember watching Iron man in 2008 and thinking these superhero movies are getting old.

  • @red-stapler574
    @red-stapler574 10 місяців тому +2

    The issue is the audience is not the customer. Black Rock is the customer. They make the movies to sell to them to get money. Black Rock gets the money from the central banks. Black Rock does not care because once it fails, they can just buy up the burning embers of the company (in some cases, on behalf of the state). That might be by design.

  • @Pengalen
    @Pengalen 9 місяців тому +1

    Great guest. Also Peter reveals he has EXCELLENT taste in movies/television. B5, Farscape and Stargate ftw. Fantasy is also great. Unfortunate he cannot stomach horror. There's a lot of sci-fi/fantasy horror that is good.

  • @robertbrenner610
    @robertbrenner610 10 місяців тому +5

    The brief discussion of villains was interesting. , They are hard to write and good ones are relatively rare. But they have definitely been hard to find in the last 10 years or so. The one dimensional silliness, the cliche approaches, and especially the lack of menace. I can think of a few exceptions, like David Tenants excellent bad guy in the first season of Jessica Jones, or the ones in the Legend of Kora series, but otherwise villains are universally one of the low points of modern media

  • @def_not_dan
    @def_not_dan 10 місяців тому +4

    Wow, so you're the other guy who liked SGU!
    And yes, Farscape is the absolute pinnacle of Sci fi.

  • @lasse4416
    @lasse4416 10 місяців тому

    Oh Peter&Drinker together!
    A surprise to be sure.. but a welcome one. 🥳

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 10 місяців тому +1

    This is gonna be a great listen for me after

  • @themasterrogerdelgado
    @themasterrogerdelgado 9 місяців тому +1

    27:20 with a Farscape shoutout!!! This is why I watch your channel! :)

  • @GoogleAccount-so4ge
    @GoogleAccount-so4ge 10 місяців тому

    Drinker without glasses … Superman effect (!) what a great interview !

  • @carbondragon
    @carbondragon 9 місяців тому +3

    I admit the Battlestar Galactica reboot was done very well, but it still assassinated the characters pretty effectively, taking an heroic show and making it into a very dystopian show. I watched it but liked the original show far more. Great summary of what happened to Star Trek. The tendency away from anything utopian (like Star Trek) toward dystopia happened before the identity politics trend happened and it almost ruined Star Trek first. Discovery and Picard just nailed the last nails into the coffin.

  • @Blondie472
    @Blondie472 10 місяців тому +1

    You got this one back asswards..
    Modern movies HATE the audience.

  • @malikshabazz2065
    @malikshabazz2065 10 місяців тому

    awesome stuff! :-)

  • @rafaelfontes5088
    @rafaelfontes5088 10 місяців тому +1

    I can second Peter's comment about Bruce Willis' picture being everywhere in Hungary (or at least Budapest). I even got in trouble for having tried to take a picture of a 20-foot ad just before security at the Budapest airport 😅

  • @patricktuorto
    @patricktuorto 10 місяців тому +3

    I was watching the trailer to that new John Wick prequel, it looked pretty impressive, AND then there were the scenes with the women who’re supposed to be as bad ass and that’s when I checked out, I hate to say it but I can’t suspend disbelief when it comes to women beating on men who’re supposed to be killers.

  • @JezaLoki
    @JezaLoki 9 місяців тому

    “I bypassed the compressor!” done over and over again.

  • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
    @TheDiscriminatingGamer 10 місяців тому +1

    As a historian myself, I'd like to see a film about General George Marshall, or General J. Lawton Collins.

  • @tomburroughes9834
    @tomburroughes9834 9 місяців тому +1

    Ideology, bad ideas, etc, can overwhelm normal free market forces. As even the great advocates of free enterprise, such as Ayn Rand have noted, a world is ultimately driven by ideas, and if lots of people work in an industry do things that are destructive, it can happen for a long time before the wheels come off. Supporting free enterprise doesn't mean that its products are immune from forms of mass ideology. That's why arguing about ideas and so on is important.

  • @gregorypetrasuk4836
    @gregorypetrasuk4836 10 місяців тому

    Superb!

  • @Kiss_the_Bichette
    @Kiss_the_Bichette 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello Mr Boghossian. Thank you for your work. I have a scientific PhD but I have to say that I was really bad at philosophy in college 😅. I hated it because I had this feeling that they were trying to make me think in a certain way. You're making me feel a little bit more interested in philosophy and its usefulness.
    I think you would like to see the Preacher serie, or read the comics. It's very funny and not politically correct at all.
    Thanks from France

  • @hardstarboardradio
    @hardstarboardradio 9 місяців тому +1

    Regarding the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica:
    The black man in chains was actually in shackles, and it was a Simon (Number 4) in the episode "Torn". The scene made perfect sense in the context of the story - he was a CYLON, after all, not African-American, because the Twelve Colonies of Kobol didn't have an "Africa" or an "America". That context simply was not America from 1619 to 1865. Heck, what about "representation," right? Without a black person among the twelve Cylonoid models, wouldn't THAT have "triggered" "progressive" complaints?
    Ron Moore's BSG certainly didn't lack for "strong female characters". There was Laura Roslin, Kara Thrace, Cally Tyrol, Tori Foster, Caprica Six, Sharon Valeri, even Ellen Tigh eventually when she remembered that she was one of the "final five" Cylons. I remember being highly skeptical when I heard that Starbuck and Boomer were going to be gender-swapped; I pictured Richard Hatch feeding it to Dirk Benedict and immediately regretted that mental image. But damned if Kara Thrace wasn't a fantastic character and a total badass while also being authentically female as well. The operative terms being "fantastic character."
    They were ALL fantastic characters, male and female alike. All strong, all flawed, all believable, all REAL. None of the male characters - Bill and Lee Adama, Saul Tigh, Galen Tyrol, Sam Anders - were stereotypically weak or stupid or villainous as they're so often shat upon in today's cinematic misdepictions. Even Gaius Baltar, whom the Cylons used to destroy the Twelve Colonies, went through a roller coaster character arc from decadent pasty to respected consultant terrified of his facilitation of his people's genocide being discovered, to the pinnacle of political power, to facilitating his people's enslavement, to being a prisoner of the Cylons, to standing trial for his misdeeds, to becoming a cult leader, and finally settling down on Earth as a farmer with Caprica Six.
    It's all a testament to Ron Moore and his writers, who made the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, in my opinion, the best-written science fiction program of all time. THAT's what's missing from Hollywood today.

  • @Denien82
    @Denien82 10 місяців тому

    About big companies not correcting their operations when they start losing money, I think you should consider how high management incentives are not aligned with profits anymore, but with stock value. Often enough, the latter are based on public perception of the company and other factors (eg. Access to credit lines) that are not necessarily tied to profits (I know it's crazy, but it's true😅). This is a problem that involves companies of all kind, not just entertainment

  • @Golmov_the_Wretched
    @Golmov_the_Wretched 10 місяців тому

    I had to look up the Newsroom monologue. Hot damn!

  • @theemperororsomethingidont6897
    @theemperororsomethingidont6897 10 місяців тому

    Well that's a colab I never thought I'd see

  • @Truthnowhere2020
    @Truthnowhere2020 3 місяці тому

    Two of my favourites. Great times 👍🏻

  • @RoseLawliet
    @RoseLawliet 10 місяців тому +1

    You take that back about Enterprise, Drinker!

  • @metgirl5429
    @metgirl5429 10 місяців тому

    This was great …..
    PB AND CD
    such a combo ♥️