Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas Police Department
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2008
- The arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald. The hallways were swarming with reporters and cameramen as Oswald was being led from room to room at Dallas Police Headquarters.
November 22-23, 1963, Dallas, Texas. Following the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
How did the police and reporters know so much about Oswald's past in such a very short time.
A bunch of people who know how to obtain information found the information they were looking for.
Really not that hard to understand.
@@tpryce6243 in that era? Shit homey, the Internet wasn’t around yet…
@@redcat608 Yeah, how did anyone find information before the internet??
He was a person of interest after seeking Russian citizenship. The FBI were watching him and knew everything about him long before JFK was shot.
@@tpryce6243 THe information that the FBI and Dallas Police wanted to be released was hand fed to the Press, and they bought it all without doing any investigative reporting. They even "Knew" It was 3 shots even when there was no such consensus.
The look on his face after the reporter said "you've been charged with murdering the President" reminds me of the look of someone who just got thrown under the bus.
There are just too many inconsistencies and coincidences in Oswalds adult life for me to believe there was no connection between him and the CIA and FBI.
:43 Jack Ruby!
The same look Ted Bundy had when they asked him if he killed any women
@@gfexc I’ve heard they were victims of the same program//MK/ULTRA
As Oswald said - " I'm a PATSY "
- 3 shots rang out.
- 1st & 2nd were standard 6.5mm rounds
- 3rd shot was a 6mm DUMB-DUMB round - shot from the rear at close range & at a lower & left-diagonsl trajectory to JFK than the 6th floor elevation. SPECIAL AGENT - HICKEY, was in the follow car, and is photographed with an AR-15 rifle in his hand in the rear of the car.
- You can't have 2-different types of round in the same clip,... both were fired from two different rifles.
- THE CIA / FBI AGENTS ( SECRET SERVICE DETAIL) IN THE FOLLOW CAR WERE ALL CULPABLE.
.... see video of book - FATAL ERROR
Note: If Oswald was at the 6th-floor window 'shooting',... HE would have seen the FATAL SHOT taken by HICKEY, and would have said so, to get himself off the hook.
- It is my opinion that Oswald was working as normal,... his rifle had been taken (by agents) & placed there on the day.
- An agency controlled 'marksman' was to provide the x2 distraction shots, and in the planned chaos - HINKEY pulled up the AR-15 and shot JFK.
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@@gfexc except Bundy was guilty
What is particularly shocking is that the media had such access to a man who had not even been charged at that point. Oswald is being held up as the scapegoat in the most crass and obvious way and the NOPD are complicit or at the very least negligent in not safeguarding him against the eventual public execution carried out by Ruby.
It was Dallas PD
The only reason I’m led to believe Oswald actually did it is because he had one phone call and he tried to call a man named John D Hurt. John Hurt was in intelligence for the Army in WW2. Victor Marchetti who was in the CIA as an executive assistant to the deputy director said he knew exactly what Oswald was doing. He said that when an intelligence operative is in trouble he will call a third party number who will then alert the operatives handler that he is in danger rather than calling the handler directly. John D Hurt was the third party who would alert Oswald’s handler. Marchetti had seen it many times. I think from that it’s pretty clear that Oswald was intelligence and was on a mission to assasinate the president. Imo it was because of Kennedys opposition to the “secret society” as Kennedy put it. He had already named them in a speech in 1961 and was about to expose them and they needed to shut him up. A bullet in the brain will do the trick. Just like they did Epstein.
he was claimed guilty before a trial that would never happen. jack ruby was a jerk taking things in his own hands. or as they claim. i dont trust or belive the government no further than i can throw the trash.
whats nopd??
@@jamesbaka1206 Yes, it’s clear that Oswald was an asset of the intelligence community. It is NOT clear that he shot Tippit or JFK. He was somehow involved. But all the evidence indicates that a number of other teams did the killing.
Warren Commission: "Oswald was the lone gunman."
Common sense reaction to anything the government tells you: Oswald was NOT the lone gunman.
Perhaps Oswald was no gunman at all.
Your "common sense" without evidence is worth less than the shit I took a few days ago
5:05 He's saying they're putting me in a police line-up with a tee-shirt and a bruised eye, its obvious I'm gonna be picked out.
well stop killing cops.
@@leemoore9933 that was oswald's double that shot tippet - simple logic
@@Paul-km8ko Thats perfect logic, what a sane way to look at it. May I suggest breaking the meds in half.
@@leemoore9933 You can't deny there was an oswald double. plenty of gov't documents to that affect. You don't find it strange that oswald was placed in different locations at the same time? They even managed to arrest oswald two separate times at the movie theater - imagine that. The first time they bought him out the front door and into a police cruiser, then moments later they arrested him a second time, bringing him out the back door and into a police cruiser according to multiple eye witnesses - oswald was like a magician, popping up all over the place
@@Paul-km8ko I don't read a lot of these bizarre stories of these grand conspiracy's their just to over the top like some james bond movie, it's just insanity IMO to buy into this crapola. Mental hospitals or some anyway have access to the internet in their library's I think that's where some of this comes from. Best to you, I won't respond to anything else in regards to this post.
For the questioning of the most important suspect, in the most important murder... there was NO tape recording device in the room, NO stenographer present, NO notes taken, and the suspect was denied his right to legal representation which he had requested live on the air. So... besides the fact the only "record" of what was said during those 12 hours is literally word of mouth from the investigator himself, anything learned in the questioning would not have been admissible in court. Makes you wonder what the actual purpose of 12 hour of questioning was other than showing the public they were going through the motions, because it served no legal purpose whatsoever. Oh and... if you check at 0:43 of this video, you will see Jack Ruby was in the crowd. He was there to take Oswald out before it got any further, but he couldn't get close enough. Ruby was also present in the police station each and every time Oswald was brought out in public. He just didn't get the chance to get close enough to kill Oswald until he was being transferred.
Oswald had been arrested for killing the police officer. Yes, there were 38 caliber casings found at the murder scene. And yes, he had a 38 on him when he was arrested. So case closed... Oswald killed the officer. The problem is, police records state the casings found at the scene were from a 38 automatic, which eject each time the gun is fired. It is stamped right on the casing. Oswald had a 38 revolver. You CANNOT fire a round for a 38 automatic out of a 38 revolver. The only evidence linking Oswald to the killing of the officer is totally bogus. So who actually killed the officer??? We will never know.
We will also never know who actually killed the president. One thing I can tell you. The round that blew half of Kennedy's head off came from the front a split second after a round hit him in the head from behind. The round from the rear was a standard rifle round that passed through, hence the blood spray to the front. The round that took half his head off was from a very high powered rifle, probably a 30.06 or 30.30, and it was a frangible round designed to disintegrated (explode) on contact. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a standard rifle round to do the amount of damage that was done to Kennedy's head. They are designed to pass right through in one piece, just like the "magic" bullet found at the hospital.
The witnesses only heard three shots. I guess no one has ever heard of a silencer??!! Rounds hit the inside of the windshield frame and the windshield itself of the limo, the pavement, the grass, and even the curb all the way down at the triple overpass. There were a hell of a lot more than just three shots, and more than one shooter. There had to be. Evidence proves this out, and even the government's second investigation concluded there was more than one shooter. Who was behind it, and who planned it, and who carried it out... who knows. I can tell you this. When the police investigate a murder, their chief suspect is the person that had the most to gain from the death. LBJ hated the Kennedys... all of them. He knew JFK did not want him as a running mate in 1960. The powers in charge of the Democratic Party insisted because they felt the voters would want someone older with more political experience with the young Kennedy. And JFK held LBJ back as Vice President, not allowing him any power at all. LBJ also knew they were planning on dropping him off the ticket as Vice President in 1964. That would have left him disgraced, and with no political power whatsoever. Plus, he knew Bobby was behind the investigations into his illegal activities when he was a senator. When JFK died, LBJ became the President of the United States, and he made sure to castrate Bobby so all the investigations (plural) into his unsavory actions as a senator were stopped. LBJ certainly gained from Kennedy's assassination. Did he plan it, doubtful. Was he in on it? According to his mistress he knew, at the least the day before it happened, about the plan to assassinate Kennedy. He also hit the floor of his limo at least two seconds BEFORE the first shot. So he knew about the assassination... and when and where it would take place.
Another force that gained from the assassination was the CIA. After the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy was going to dismantle the CIA (the CIA had already tried to assassinate Castro seventeen times... so they were pretty good at the planning phase anyway). And, he was going to pull our troops out of Nam. Under LBJ, the CIA became even more powerful. And we all know what happened in Nam under LBJ.
Excellent theory, I am glad I am not the only one!
I tend to agree with you on a number of these issues, but you state the following, "The problem is, police records state the casings found at the scene were from a 38 automatic, which eject each time the gun is fired." I think you mean semi-automatic, not automatic, since they're not sold in the US. And your claim that there is some kind of stamping on the casing for use specifically in a semi-automatic. As far as I know, that's not the case.
@@Jim-mn7yq There is a photo, along with the police report. In the photo of the shell casing, the ".38AUTO" is visible and easy to read. We are, after all, talking about almost 60 years ago... but yes, I can't figure the reason for it being stamped either. Anyone that knows anything about handguns, KNOWS the difference. It is VERY obvious. But, the ".38AUTO" IS there. And, it is on the SIDE of the casing. All my ammo is stamped... but it is around the cap... not on the side. And yes, I did mean semi-auto.
Lol I like your statement that there were .38 casings and Oswald had a .38 on him case closed.
It was texas lots of people own .38 revolvers especially back then. Police themselves on average use .38 revolver as the service weapon being of choice or policy as they are extremely reiable and efficient.
So by their own logic anyone of them could have shot the officer and with everything about this case it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
I didn't catch the stamping on the shell casing I'll look that up but that aside, the LBJ connection is something I never heard but stands to reason when you look at who stands to gain point of view, and if that is the case it wouldnt surprise me if gov was involved as Kennedy was do alot of toe stepping.
So alot of people in power had a vested interest I'm a Kennedy free White House. He was changing everything and change makes people nervous especially powerful people who dont want to give up that power.
You could also add unless reloading revolvers don't leave spent casings behind. So its weird if there were casings at the scene, unless he stopped to reload which a person fleeing assassinating the president would be into much of a hurry for.
This is the longest footage I have seen and I am in my mid 60s. Thanks for getting and posting this stuff.
But doesn't that say it all eh?
Comments that fail to post because they can't handle the truth of a corrupt govt. This is how the truth is being hidden now.
I agree.
My mom was watching this live on TV
So you never saw this recopilation of Oswald videos ever before??...
In 1963, as you can see, the security at Dallas PD HQ, was nonexistent, with reporters and tv crews jammed in the hallways. That has changed of course, as today, a reporter would not be allowed anywhere near Oswald. Miranda rights, also was not law until 1966.
Your correct Drew. SCOTUS, in the Miranda, and Escobedo rulings basically stated, that once a lawyer is requested, all questions must cease and a lawyer must be acquired. Apparently, that was not common practice, until those rulings.
@@LoneStarLawman Miranda wasn't ruled on yet.
Oswald was only 24 years old but looked 40 .
@@audreywilborn2018 People in the 1940s - 1960s matured already as teenagers. Times were rough, unlike the pampered snowflakes of the 2020s.
@@audreywilborn2018 Good observation. The question is why? Stress will age a person...I believe that in his young life he was a Federal Agent...Many questions. Here is what is known. Lee Oswald was never afforded a trial of his peers. There were many who had an axe to grind and much to gain with JFK out of the picture. In my view, the case is still open and the verdict unknown as to to innocence/guilt of Lee Harvey Oswald.
It’s not a coincidence that Oswald was shot the day after Kennedy was.
2 days later
No shit Sherlock
Two days, but yeah.
A lone nut, using a magic bullet killed JFK. Then a lone nut with another majic bullet killed LHO. All under the watch of the DPD...Nothing to see here.
"I'm just a patsy."
What kind of person who just actually murdered someone would really think of that as his cover/alibi?... Anybody in his position who really just killed someone would be so deranged they wouldn't think of responses like that. I truly don't believe he shot Kennedy. He was tied in with Jack Ruby I believe... But not the one who shot Kennedy.
Frankly, it was ludicrous to have swarms of newspaper journalists and TV broadcast units filling the corridors of police HQ. It was like a media circus! The Texas police by allowing this ‘invasion’ were swamped and so any proper interrogation was impossible.
"...we gotta indoctrinate this guy..." What???
I said the same SHIIIIIIIIIT!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
I heard that too
I heard that as well wtf. We need to overthrow the government. It's been taken by satanic forces
I know, WTF that even mean ????
At :43 in the video... there's JACK RUBY. Jack Ruby was also seen at the hospital shortly after Kennedy arrived. There is also a photo of Ruby standing outside of the Texas Book Depository shortly after the assassination. I think Ruby and Oswald knew each other. And Ruby knew that Oswald was the "patsy".. or "fall guy" and his job was to take Oswald out.
Holy shit
Ruby knew who oswald was and what he had to do. All part of the plan.
He truly was a patsy poor guy
Can u prove that
He undoubtedly shot a police man after this so not really
@@Milky1348 can you prove not
@@abiythelegend9532 More evidence that he worked alone than with other people.
Why do I every now and then jump back into this rabbit hole, like I'm going to solve the case or something lol..
Yep, just to see what's new.
Thank you for posting this compilation video! Such a fascinating case! So many good points to support and/or question each theory! So many strange events involved in the many aspects of people, places, timings, and artifacts! Like a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. Whether Oswald was a patsy, or not - he was certainly the perfect person to be such!
How did the press get so much info on Lee so quickly? It came from Hoover. Before the police even knew Lee's name Hoover had contacted the Dallas police. He told them they had Lee Harvey Oswald and to call off the search for any other suspects. Oswald was their man. How did Hoover have all that info and was able to contact the police so quickly after the shooting of JFK? Lee was right he was a patsy. He had been set up to take the fall for something he didn't do. He knew too much. On the day he died he was made to put on the dark sweater he was wearing in the basement.They knew Lee was going to be shot and it would be live on tv. They didn't want people to see all the blood which would have been the case in his white t-shirt. Chest compressions were done on him in the ambulance. That's a death sentence for someone with such a severe injury. At the hospital Dr. I believe it was Crenshaw was called out of the trauma room to take a phone call. It was from LBJ who the dr said gave him a message that was more like order to get a death bed confession. Those people were evil SOBs that should have been drawn and quartered. R.I.P Lee.
Oswald was shot with a blank by an FBI man posing as Jack Ruby. That's why there was no blood on the floor or any blood splatter.The basement was pure theater to prevent a trial. The doctor & autopsy report said a bullet struck Lee tearing thru all his major organs & blood vessels bleeding to death into cardiac arrest losing lots of blood......& yet no blood on the floor.
That's why LHO was wearing a dark sweater so blood wouldn't be seen.
@@winggullseagull1230 delusional. He was shot and killed by Ruby.
@@winggullseagull1230 NO, SIR. You have been deliberately misinformed. And that indeed was Jack Ruby. Do you think that gangster would have let himself get railroaded and take the blame? He tried to plead crazy at first.
@@judythbaker4344 The garage shooter is not Jack Ruby it's so obvious even from behind. Sorry but Ralph Cinque is right. You & everyone else believe it's Ruby because that's what you were told.
Except for the observant few that knows it's NOT Ruby.
All false rubbish.
"You have been charged" the look on Oswalds face tells me everything, a innocent man who has lost all hope.
Interesting. Maybe we should decide guilt and innocence in our courtrooms based on the look on defendants' faces.
@@jamesanthony5681 youve missed the point of my reply entirely...
@@Danny-Craig 'A '[sic] innocent man' is what you wrote.
@@jamesanthony5681 I see its guilty until proven innocent my apologies.
@@Danny-Craig You said that, bud. Apparently, you're the one that can look into peoples' faces - at least in Oswald's case - to divine 'lost hope'.
Absolutely shocking how governments are allowed to get away with these things
That's because they serve Satan
Get away with what?
@@LittleAnastasia... Get away with, bad acting performances by a group of clown circus performers.
You mean the Mafia hit? Didn't have anything to do with government
@@bryanbaxter3558 Stop lying to yourself
JACK RUBY IS VISIBLE AT 43 SECS. WAS HE HOPING TO KILL OSWALD SOONER
Indeed, Ruby admitted to that one month after the fact. His loaded revolver sat in his right pocket during his appearance here as a “reporter”.
If you read Ruby's trial transcripts there are two witnesses for the state that said they overheard Ruby talking to someone on the phone about being there when they transferred LHO. Ruby was stalking LHO and it was not a spur of the moment thing to shoot him like we have been told! Ruby was sent by the mob. Dorothy Kilgallen said she had the scoop of the century after attending the Ruby trial and interviewing him twice. I'm guessing she found out that Ruby had connections to Carlos Marcello and that LHO knew him from New Orleans. She died under shady circumstances and her notes were missing. LHO just didn't shoot the president without an exit plan. I think someone failed to pick him up and he panicked. I think if they would have picked him up he would have ended up like Jimmy Hoffa. It would have been a mystery. But LHO got caught and Ruby was sent to shut him up.
No he was part of the group from the beginning the “jack ruby” character was for the FF murder. To make sure what they did stayed covered up a show for the emotional manipulation of society to brainwash US citizens to get behind their war agenda just like other times 9/11 or just recently on Jan 6th in DC!!
Jack Ruby (Rubenstein) knew and had connections with Lee Oswald prior to the JFK Assassination. Lee Oswald had many connections and served groups within the U.S. Government's Intellegence Community. Jack Ruby was there to tie up the loose ends (assassinate Oswald) so there would be no one to expose the real killers and men in the know.
Ask yourself WHO gained the most from JFK's assassination ... one answer, one man ... LBJ !
@@tblack4428 Did you know Rudy called one of the caps to warn him about Oswald getting shot? Ruby didn't want to kill Oswald, he was forced to.
Good thing I have a few days off. I've been binge watching these vintage clips all day. Is this what the rabbit hole of assassination conspiracy feels like? :-)
I guess you believe in some conspiracy? Try focusing on the facts their pretty solid.
yes... but the truth is coming out.
LOL! The same thing happened to me. Never got into the whole thing until I had a few days off and fell into this rabbit hole.
That has become my past 3 days as well lol
No lone nut!
Has anyone ever wondered how they found him. Oswald was seen entering a movie theater with out paying for a ticket, the manager called the police. Why wasnt the manager told they had a far bigger criminal to hunt down? Yet LHO was hauled away by half the Dallas Police force? with no description of JFK's shooter or JD Tippet's shooter. Yet someone thought the shooter was a man who didnt pay to see a movie? Doesnt that seem like a big leap? someone knew just where to find him!
Pretty sure the lady who called the cops DID give a description.
Saying that, Oswald absolutely did not kill JFK.
@@jamesleverentz6294 yeah, guess your mom did the job instead, right?
It's funny how the press knew his whole backstory
Yeah, I guess they are psychic...
By that evening there had been plenty of time for police to look up records on this ex-defector.
CIA/FBI delivered their lines to them wrapped in a bow
@@meathdetal And CT authors delivered yours, right?
As you look real carefully at Oswald , noticed how he recognize jack ruby as he look upward as he was moved to interrogation . Why was he denied legal representation . This is a conspiracy . The warren report is a sack of lies.💩💩💩💩
They didn't give him a lawyer and as far as we know there are no notes or recordings of his multiple interrogations. It leads me to believe that the DA knew that it would never go to trial.
@@BoneCK15 more likely they did not want what he said to be made available to the public.
@@charlesrobbins2208 yep and for the same reason
When herman?? What is the time when Oswald sees ruby???I saw ruby alone at 43 seconds...
Get lucid...
Lots of good footage here, thanks!
thankghaud for the press!!~!
0:43 Jack Ruby standing in the hallway on the day of the arrest 11-22-1963
Look at the disbelief on Oswald's face when he is told he has been charged with the murder of the president. 2:40
I don't see that . As a CIA operative he is totally composed. He obviously IS realizing that he is being set up and shouts "I'm just a patsy" also later shouts "I vehemently deny these charges" HA HA it is over for you , you stupid fool.
If Oswald did it, he would have admitted it and grinned a creepy grin.Hes the same man that was unapologetic about handing out FPFC info and was proud about his Russian history. Wake up people, he was the biggest Patsy of all time. Quite sad actually
can't the Dallas police control access to their offices?
exactly!!!
@@lancejohnson127 Ruby was there in the station twice.
Ridiculous
@@ML-ul2zq ruby was there all the time he liked cops and was nosey. he was a pain in the butt.
Jack Ruby was let in by a Dallas PD officer this whole thing stinks.
Can't believe how they kept parading him out in front of the press like that. Especially such a high profile suspect.
and it says it all he doesn't take any opportunity to blow any plot, or say what he knows, or beg protection for his family....
You have to remember the assassinations of presidents don’t happen every day
That lines up with theory Jack Ruby was there twice in this video at the police station but couldn't get close enough. I think they kept parading hom for Ruby to take his shot and end the need for trial and continue the narrative
@@aaronz7056he was intelligence and tried to call his CIA handler while in jail to try to get him out of the mess. He still had faith that the CIA would bail him out of the situation. He did however get frustrated at the situation and reveal that he was indeed a “patsy”. He really didn’t have much time to strategize because he was killed immediately. I’d be willing to bet he figured his CIA handlers would get him out of the mess and fix the situation but the reality was, his handlers had set him up to take the fall in the first place. Explaining why he was murdered and snuffed out so quick so that he would stop talking.
@@jamesbaka1206 Crackpot B.S. "I'd be willing to bet..." LOL
He never STARTED talking, blanket denying everything, claiming he "had no idea what this was about" AFTER being caught red-handed trying to murder a police officer (how in the hell was "the CIA" going to "bail him out" of THAT???), and I repeat, he made no attempt to blow any conspiracy to any cop, any member of his family, to the President of the Dallas Bar Association, or to a live TV audience of millions.
One drunken ex-agent tried to make a crank call TO the police station, this leading to a garbled and hilariously implausible story Oswald was trying to call "the CIA." This was debunked years ago, and by a couple of conspiracy authors, no less.
The way he answers is interesting. The way he responded physically and not verbally when the reporter said “you have been charged” after he says he hasn’t been told anything is STRIKING. He looks pissed and you can see his mind racing. He was answering the way he did because he wasn’t sure how the powers that be were gonna navigate the situation. The minute he heard that he knew he was screwed and any assurances or plans he thought he was part of were completely fantasy. I don’t have the timelines and you can’t tell but I wouldn’t be surprised if his more aggressive denials came after that moment. And before that moment he was playing the more humble Im not sure what’s going on. I could be wrong but doubt I am. From all accounts early he acted not like a man falsely accused but of a man with a get out of jail free card. Or like a man than knew something that everyone else didn’t.
No transcripts of his arrest. Awful fishy.
@@jeffeverett274 Because the whole day was a tsunami of utter pandemonium and confusion. The station was total chaos - newsmen running amock everywhere - Jack Ruby waltzing in a few days later to shoot Oswald! I am sure that even by 1960s standards none of this was text book operating procedure - but the President had just been shot!
As for Oswald's demeaner - oh you just can't read people that easily. That's how con men get you! He had a very odd personality and belief system. He had just killed an officer (of which there is no doubt) and yet he is bleating about being "hit by a policeman". A narcissistic fantasist loner who thought that he should have a higher purpose in life than he had - who saw an opportunity to do something truly shocking - and he took it. 100% guilty. No conspiracy. I know it's hard to accept that someone like Oswald could just shoot an iconic president - but if JFK insisted on getting up close and personal to the Dallas electorate, and swanning around in an open top motorcade - it becomes a very distinct reality!
@@jeffeverett274Dallas PD was “not in the possession of any tape recorders”
You are spot on
Good post , noticed no comment from Aaronz on this one
Jack Ruby briefly appears in the middle of the picture @0:43--white guy, bald on top, dark suit. Before Ruby shot Oswald, J. Edgar Hoover called the Dallas PD and said that they were "showing Oswald off too much". If the armored car on the street that was supposed to take Oswald to the county jail had fit into that underground parking garage, it could have backed inches from the door from where the police were leading Oswald out, and perhaps that would have saved Oswald's life. Officer Leavelle, the guy with the cowboy hat, appears on the right @5:49.
I think part of the press conference was cut out when Ruby corrected the name of 'Fair Play for Cuba'
This is such a confusing case but its sooo interesting...
read book Me and Lee by Judyth Baker, and you will not be confused at all anymore. and her 4 subsequent books are all as good / excellent also
@@ignorecorporatenews Read _Case Closed_ by Gerald Posner.
@@BullToTheShit That book is bullshit. Sick of people citing it as evidence, it's one sided biased bullshit.
@@crispinfrancis1 And, what makes you think the conspiracy books aren't one-sided bullshit? I've always been open minded, but allegations to show conspiracy always get disproven. Allegations that support the official version always get confirmed.
@@marksesl "always"?
At 5:09 he’s explaining to the press how he’s being taken to a line up being the only one dressed as he is and everyone else in proper attire just so he can be singled out and picked out.
It would take more than two hands to count the number of 'shady' people in that video.
Name 10 to start.
The only shady person in this video is Lee Harvey, he’s lying to your face and you accept it or say “maybe” in your head.
Lee Harvey Oswald was the ultimate patsy.
TRUE
Sirhan Sirhan was the ultimate patsy. LHO knew some shit and wasn't innocent but probably had help
guilty as hell.
Why would you parade a person out in public with no security that was accused of killing the president? Complete set up to frame and kill someone for the crime, and sweep it under the rug.
Ultimate fall guy lol
Oswald was a patsy. He did not kill the president or officer Tippet
Yeah eye witnesses saw him shoot tippet. It was amazing how his rifle just happened to be in the book depository.
Shut up
@@tito9694 JR? Are u Jack Ruby?
@@ajay999999 dude look into it. Eveything points to Oswald. His gun shipped to his address under an assumed name, his letter he left that day to marina and the other letter for the assasination attempt he tried in april of the same year of general walker i believe is his name. His movements after the shooting was that of a chicken with his head cut off. He was in total panic and dipped into a shoe store after he shot Tippet and watch the police go by. Then a worker saw oswald leave when police passed by and saw him go into texas theatre and the guy told authorities. Also they saw him go in without paying the person working at the theatre. Im in Dallas im obssesed with this event
@@ajay999999 ajay999999 dude im in agreement with u
Did you see Ruby in the hallway?
Chilling
It was not unusual for Ruby to hang around at the police station.
@@jetcat132 dude come on
@@mc5967 Lol Seriously?
This is the face of a MARTYR . R.I.P LEE HARVEY OSWALD......
twenty four years old is young
I feel so sorry for this guy.
This is fascinating. Theories aside, one rarely ever hears the preamble and ambient noise prior to and after he is walked through. Squeaky doors, mumbling, and the occasional objective comment from an unseen commentator or spectator. I like this rare and unusual compilation very much, and thanks for posting it.
Yeah. Also when he is talking …it sounds like they are trying to drown out his words with chairs sliding etc
@@yourmovebro8650 Really?
Very Sad Violent Tragedy.
Every officer is so close to him at all times that the press can hardly ask a question yet....Ruby was able to walk up and “shoot” him. People will believe anything they are told to believe.
a so minded person could have shot him there too.
Jack Ruby makes two appearances in this video. -6:18 there he is in middle of the screen.
-4:05 Ruby can be heard angrily asking Oswald, “nobody asked what”?! X2
@@h.r.puffnstuff8705 at 43 seconds? That's him isn't it?
@@tedpeterson1156 yes. Note no hat or glasses. Other times u see him mix with the press he’s wearing very thick frame glasses.
The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it. A lot of dumb naive people out there..
He did not do it like they want you to believe,Oswald was seen by 2 people on the second floor eating lunch between 12:15 and 12:20, the president was shot around 12:30,so if you are going to kill the president why would you stop eat lunch 10 mins before you shoot and the limo was 5 mins late on top of that and he had no idea they would not be on time going threw the plaza.He ran up to the 6th floor without anyone seeing him go up and shoot the president and come back down to 2nd floor drinking a coke and police said he was not out of breath.The checked the rifle for finger prints and had none of his prints on it just his palm print only,how can you shoot an older rifle bolt action 3 times in 6 seconds without leaving any prints. Run down wiping all prints and not be out of breath. They found chicken upstairs so whoever shot him from this location stayed the nite so he would not be detected the next day and probably stayed there while Oswald was being arrested and casually walked out in a uniform and never be seen.Why would any person kill Oswald for killing the president unless he was a family member or very close friend to take that risk in broad daylite over the death of any president, they knew if Oswald went to court he would be found not guilty so within 48 hours they had him killed.But the weird part of all of this is during his 12 hour interview at the police station there is no transcripts of anything that was said or on any recording device and when asked why they said the room was too smal for a stenogragher
Its the other way around the Conspiracy theorists have you decieved. None of their claims are based on any concrete evidence. Any criminal lawyer will tell you that in any case if the individual is convicted of just three convictions it makes them guilty. Just THREE. Oswald was convicted of 53. None of the conspiracy theories has any basis in truth.
Steven Tyler Ok why is it you cant get Oswald's Tax return? Explain Howard Hunt's deathbed confession? And LBJ's mistress has even said the night before the President was murdered LBJ swore to her that it would be the last time the President laughed at him.... explain that?
Actually, from what I have read, it was ten minutes late.
300tank wrote: "Oswald was seen by 2 people on the second floor eating lunch between 12:15 and 12:20"
What are the names of these "Alleged" co-workers who said they say Oswald at that time? Should be easy enough to provide at least ONE of the two names.
A problem with conspiracy-mongers is that they think they are immune to scientific explanations because, after all, anyone who disagrees with them must be a government shill.
Here's some science re fingerprints.
The term "no prints" does not mean that there were no marks or smears - it means that if any markings were present, they lacked sufficient detail to be of evidentiary value. As there are limits to the collection of prints at all scenes, an evaluation of what should be preserved as evidence is a necessity. Technicians cannot develop, preserve, document, and collect all fragmentary portions of ridge detail at crime scenes. Realistic expectations and a point of diminishing return are factors with which to reckon. ("Fingerprints: What They Can & Cannot Do!," The Print, Volume 10, number 7, June 1994, pp. 1-3.)
Even when the fingerprints are found on firearms, they are almost always too smudged to be useful. One reason is that these weapons are likely to be slightly oily, especially if well kept. Another is that the person using the weapon holds it so tightly that the prints are smeared. And if the weapon is fired, the jolt smears any prints that might otherwise have been useful.
Thus, while the presence of fingerprints on a weapon clearly inculpates a suspect, the lack of such prints doesn't let him off the hook. It's entirely normal and routine for guilty suspects not to have left usable prints on a weapon.
Oswald was a liar. On November 23, Oswald was visited by the president of the Dallas Bar Association, H. Louis Nichols, who offered him help in getting a lawyer; Oswald refused the offer. Oswald was told by the police that he could use the telephone when he wished, and he did make telephone calls. He attempted to call attorney John Abt in New York but was unsuccessful in reaching him. Mrs. Paine testified that at Oswald's request she tried without success to reach Abt. Oswald was also visited by his wife, mother, and brother, to any of whom he could have turned for help in getting counsel
He’s to calm! If someone was accusing me of the crime of the century I couldn’t act that calm.
Like Jim Garrison said, "Oswald didn't shoot anybody."
Period.
Thankfully, today, this view has the collective conscience. I believe it's because we're smarter, in general but especially critical thinking, than prior generations who were stuck with basic Neanderthalic brains. I mean just listen to good ole boy chief curry if you wanna hear the next closest thing to the iQ of rocks. I'm saying he's a low iQ Person but so were most people in the 50s. They were easy to fool because they just weren't that bright. Soy milk hadn't even been invented yet.
*too
He was a soldier. They are trained to keep their composure
He is calm because he has the proof that he is innocent and was going to prove it in court.
@@xCaptxCrunchx And the proof he was innocent is: no verifiable alibi at the moment of the shooting of JFK or Tippit, a gun that was purchased by him which fired three shots at the president from the building HE worked in, on the floor he was LAST seen on by coworkers, running away from the crime scene to grab a gun and shoot Tippit and being seen by a bunch of people, having the same exact description as the JFK shooter, his fingerprints being found all over the nest he shot from, his gun wasn't at his home when the police checked, him changing his usual routine before the shooting and coming to work with a bag which carried the gun, the time tests which demonstrated that he could have went from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor in just enough time to encounter the superintendent of the building and the officer there and so on and so forth. What an innocent man, defended by so much evidence 🤡
Dallas Police and FBI claimed that they took no NOTES during questioning of LHO. Marina Oswald told police that LHO owned a rifle at Ruth Paines home which was not found in garage.
LHO likely knew of the conspiracy and may have facilitated those responsible but there was no gun shot residue on hands or face even though he was accused of firing 7 rounds. LHO attempted to make at least 2 out of state calls and they were obviously memorized numbers of his contacts with CIA who he felt could exonerate him. He also gave Ruth Paine a number to call but she didn't make it.
LHO obviously figured out that he was set up as a PATSIE when 20 cops showed up in the Theater where he was likely trying to make contact with his CIA associate.
Ruby gained access to Dallas Police that night when he showed up with bags full of deli sandwiches... surely he sought an opportunity to shoot LHO, same Saturday but he didn't get opportunity till Sunday.
The Warren Commission claimed Ruby entered Dallas Police department through an auto ramp that was momentarily left ungarded and this is bullshit as the ramp and entry was guarded by several officers who were trying to back an armored car down the ramp and they then drove it out and backed up a car. Ruby was not filmed at the ramp entrance and must have gained entry with help from CIA or Dallas Police Department.
Oswald kept his cool when he was asked questions by news media.. I have no doubt that he was a patsie but remained hopeful that his CIA connection would get him off the hook for 2 murders.
I have never in my life heard nor seen or even dreamed of anything even close to the circus of event's that unfolded while Oswald was in custody. I mean, he was literally dragged in front of journalist and cameras so the public could have a face with which to vent their hate and anger. I mean wtf!?!?!? Was there no one in control of this mob of reporters and media?!?!?!? It was a damn flying circus from day one and every single Dallas police officer was the clown!!!!!
the fucking president got shot who wouldnt be pissed
"So the public could have a face with which to vent their hate and anger." What "venting" exactly are we talking about?
i could tell by the look on oswald face , when the reporter told him he had been charged with jfk murder, that he didnt do it
Well then, they should have let him go right then. Why didn't you call them with your definitive proof?
Oswald is asking for help , every chance he got.
I believe you were innocent Lee. Always will.
Every 2 million inmates in US prisons are innocent, they are framed by government of lizards. The secret message is hidden in Joe Rogan podcasts, if you listen to it in reverse you will hear lizards talking
Prove it
The LOOK on his face and reaction when he was told he'd been charged with killing JFK is everything. That is a genuine human reaction. That is complete shock/disbelief. He clearly knew he was being railroaded.
He didn’t kill anyone on that day including Tippet
@@gannon3578 witnesses SAW him shoot tippet, dummy.
@@steveabq7913 your way off Dip Shit do some research before commenting
@@gannon3578 you were there?
So you're telling me YOUR theory is fact and several eye witnesses are mistaken?
If Oswald is a patsy, why was he not at work; but at the texas theater?
Did Tippett shoot himself, then, clown?
I'll bet you think the earth is flat, you aluminum hat wearing nut job?
@@gannon3578 I've been researching the assassination since I was a teen.
I'm not saying the Warren commission got it 100% right, but all these bs conspiracies are ridiculous. Soooo many people would've had to keep quiet. Oliver stones movie was not "fact"....
Do you believe everything you read on the interweb?
Dip shit....
I always felt sorry for him every time I watch this
Why? A double murderer? You must be the kind of person who would get taken in by a con man then. This guy had just murdered a policeman - and then bleats about "being hit by a policeman" like he's the victim! The reason he was hit is because he was strenuously resisting arrest in a theatre shortly after murdering officer Tippit! None of these are the actions of an innocent man. Oh, and he shot the President as well...
3:02
Reporter: "Mr. Oswald, how did you heart your eye?"
Oswald: " A policemen hit me"
Story that last forever! I truly believe he is a Pasty! I hope he found peace in the next life.
Heart?
Hard not to get hit after killing a cop, and you pull a gun on other cops inside a movie theater. These days he would have been swiss cheese right there and then
@@crashwatson7844 i bet you crush on serial killers dont you, write them letters in prison type person.
He killed a cop in front of witnesses.
He tried killing someone a few weeks earlier.
He had opportunity.
The recreated scene proves He did it.
People could see his rifle hanging out the window .
1st shot He simply missed.
Not easy committing murder.
Zapruder starts filming after shot 1.
Oswald has to wait until limo gets by tree. 2nd and 3rd shot.
People below him on 5th floor heard shots above them and could hear casings hit floor.
Oh and they even managed to have the casings land at same spots when they did the reenactment.
Oliver stone obviously left that out of his movie.
One of the main motives supported by lone oswald supporters, was that he did it for attention, to be recognized. Does this mans reactions match that description? Gerald Posner has been trying to drive this home for decades...yet every action of Oswalds supports the total opposite..I see a confused, scared man in these clips..I see a man who realizes the situation he's in, and he's clearly dumbfounded on what to do about it.
Absolutely right. The look on his face is one of the realisation that he’s been had. Many of us have made that same face when we realise that someone has used us, lied to us, conned us. It’s a clear sign of his innocence.
The thing that I can't understand is why did Oswald return to his apartment.
I know he returned to his apartment for his gun and a jacket. He left behind money, ring and a note for his wife.
Now in the morning going to work he took his rifle, but why did he leave his jacket and gun behind?
Why did the Tippit get out of the police car without his gun in hand? If he was going to arrest Oswald, then he'd call for back up, and his gun would be drawn.
Why did Oswald go into the business district, and wait in a movie theater?
He could have walked along back streets.
Another question; Instead of going to the apartment, taken his gun in the morning, and he should have headed towards the Railroad yard, and hopped freight train south.
It appears to me, that he ended up in the movie theater, because he believed that he was going to be picked up by conspirators.
My thoughts exactly
Thanks for posting all that footage in one vid, saves me watching all the 1 minute clips.
From what I can see I actually believe that he didn't do it, he seems sincere but sadly only person who knows for sure was the person who pulled the trigger and if it wasn't Oswald and they haven't been caught or come forward by now I doubt they ever will.
@ultradeadd yep and the ones that can have vested interest in not sharing details.
It's shame, what makes me think he is innocent apart from his demeanour and sincerity is how quickly he was killed before a trial or further investigation.
But 100% your right if there are any people left who have that info they won't talk but maybe a deathbed confession or letter left in a will could shed more light but that's highly unlikely.
He is a criminal and a liar and that's are facts. Can't believe we actually have to ask this question, did you know him and why would you believe him so easily? If you in fact do believe LHO with all of your heart, then you must believe 100% of all mankind. Period end of story. We will keep track of you because there is no way you trust every single human and if you stay with that story you have zero credibility.
Oswald is more believable than the untrustworthy gov(who lies often and is involved in espionage and assisting in over throwing other govs). They would never do anything unethical 🙄
I think he was framed
Excellent footage. Can you repost with better resolution?
how could he be charged when they havent looked at one shred of evidence yet wow thats amazing.
Govt wanted to wrap things up quick.
He was charged of murdering constable Tippit - Oswald had the gun linking him to that murder.
@@tylsimys67 except the shells found at the scene were .38 autos, not .38 special ammo. Oswals had a revolver, not a semi auto pistol
@@drby0788 the Patsy's gun had a faulty firing pin.
@@drby0788 Eyewitnesses to the Tippet shooting said they saw a man fleeing and emptying his REVOLVER.
@MoJoSB
classic setup. the expression on his face says it all...
Yep your so right
Hey, I was MoJoSB... Changed my name... lol Stll have the SB as you can see.
Which expression, his passive look or the smirk he kept putting on?
The Press already had lots of information on Lee ( Harvey ) Oswald, a just arested unknown person.
They knew he was a ex marine also that he lived in the Sovjet Union
You can hear and see the innocence on his face and in his voice!
Look at the video I found when they did the fourth line up. They took his dress shirt and left him in a white t. Very unusual for that time
Nigga killed a police man and you call him innocent!?
At 0:42 to 0:45 Jack Ruby can be seen looking down the hall away from the camera then to his left where we see his profile. A reporter or someone with a still camera can be seen looking at Ruby and smiling at him.
At .24 you can also see back of rubys head.... so many officers around oswald mean he got pushed away to where he was at .42
So? Ruby was known to hang around the station and was friendly with many in the Dallas PD.
@@jetcat132 I was merely pointing out where and when I saw Ruby so others can see him too. I did not infer in my text what it meant. I have my theory and others can have theirs or think nothing of it like you. Someone else here pointed out that the Dallas Police let anybody and their grandmother walk in and out of the police station. Why not tell them you saw no grandmothers and cover all your bases?🤣🤣
@@tomtransport Haha you’re right!
Oswald was only 24 at that time and it seems very prepared. This guy was a CIA agent. By the way, its horrendous how the Police allow the press to make that kind of chaos inside the sheriff office.
That's the way it was in 63'. Giant cameras, lots of cable, the president had been assassinated. Different reporters from different news organizations. The world was watching and waiting. Oswald was a CIA asset, not an agent.
The whole thing looks so corrupt to me! He should have had a lawyer immediately, and allowing reporters in the police station like that! Amateur hour in Dallas! It’s obvious to me he didn’t have a clue what was going on. It makes your country look like a banana republic! And your so much better than that! This mess needs reinvestigating properly! Now. What are the powers to be afraid of ?
ua-cam.com/video/L4M98z22pgI/v-deo.html America in a nutshell.
If they hadn't been up to something they would have given him a legal representator
The police allowed the local civil liberties union rep in Dallas to speak with Oswald who denied their services and allowed Oswald numerous attempts to contact a lawyer of his choice in upstate NY but he was away and never got the messages. Two words of advice: Stop getting your information from conspiracy books and stop believing that everything Oswald said was the truth. He lied throughout his entire life and didn't stop doing so on November 22nd.
He turned down their offer and tried to contact a different attorney.
In his new book Buell Wesley Frazier finally admitted that right after the assassination he saw a man come out of the back of the Depository with a rifle in his hands that he placed in his trunk and drove away. When asked why he never told anyone in 59 years, he said he was not afraid for his own life, but for the lives of his family.
I thought he was in front of the buidling wathcing the motorcade and identified lovelady and also saw oswald walking across the street. Now he was behind the building? Or did this guy with the RIFLE get out slower then oswald and casually put it in the car. Keep in mind cops were all over that building by then and had already talked to even oswald. Now we are to believe a guy just strolled down and put his gun away. But oswald barely had time to drop his in between some boxes and get to the lunch room?
I am heartbroken when I think of what that poor man (Lee Harvey Oswald) went through, before President Kennedy was killed, and what happened to him after President Kennedy was asassinated. He never had a chance at having a happy life, having had a troubled childhood and youth, and had many disappointments in his short life. I honestly believe that he was set up to be a patsy.😢
I hope you never sit on a jury.
2:50 - ".... the newspaper reporters in the hall AXED me that question." The earliest and whitest use I have ever heard of this particular malapropism.
Aksed
They have all these clips, but they leave out probably the best one from Nov. 23 early evening when Oswald said he was "being denied his basic hygienic rights, like a shower".
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@@swankybutters8371
Thanks for that! I hadn't seen that in a long time.
just typical im the victim attitude.
@@leemoore9933 Doesn't the American constitution state: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW? Oswald was not convicted of any killing. It was illegal for them to deny him legal representation and it was illegal for them to deny him a shower. They also blocked the one phone call he was allowed to make.
@@mariahyohannesHe refused lawyers,he phoned John Abt whom he wanted but Abt was away ! Just do some basic research instead of believing every CT comment…
Poor guy, used a patsy. Who grieves for Lee Harvey Oswald? Nobody.
NOT YET!
I fell bad for him... The freaking government used and him and killed him!!!
>"Who grieves for Lee Harvey Oswald?"
His family, but nobody else should. He ruined his wife & kids lives & the Kennedy's.
BullToTheShit I mean anybody can grieve for him, its a free country...
Lavetta Thomas "Should" & "Can" are two different words. Nobody is suggesting you can't.
You know what's weird? My first name is Marina, but if I would have been a boy, my parents were planning on naming me Lee.
Really that's so neat. Is that why your interested in the case?
Chris Peeks Nah it's just a coincidence. But I'm a total history nerd. I've been to the museum in Dallas which was really cool.
Mina 12 I have a degree in history never been to the museum. Was it cool?
Chris Peeks Yeah it was really interesting. You could look out the windows and they had two little x's on the road marking exactly where he was shot.
+Chris Peeks Yes it is. I live about 75 miles north of Dallas and have been there twice. It's well worth seeing.
amazing how they let all those people into the police station. I don't think that would happen these days.
LBJ and Hoover planned the whole thing. Even RFK Jr. Says as much.
Facts.
This is how you never handle security on a high profile controversial suspect.
It's hard to imagine how ANYONE still believes Oswald had anything to do with Kennedy's assassination.
How so, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this.
@@leemoore9933 you realize oswald had a double, right? who shots a president, escapes from the scene of the crime and manages to make it home safely, only to change his clothes and go back out so he can shot a cop and then walk blocks to a movie theater, doesn't buy a ticket, but decides he'll just walk in without paying - like that won't draw attention to him. If you believe all that than you are a sucker
@@Paul-km8ko He only had one double, I thought he had several. Chief from Control offered him a job but they only had the one shoe phone and it was Max's. Then Kaos wanted him.
he deffo was one of the shooters, I heard there was 8
@@lukeatbrandynightful I heard there were 178 shooters in dealy. Some with cap and ball muskets.
I've read alot about the handling of the case in the aftermath of the assassination and it's astounding how sloppily things unfolded. From police making statements to the media about evidence and witnesses to the choice to bring Oswald into such an unsecure area
They let anyone and their grandmother walk in and out of the Dallas Police station
If he had not been assassinated ,with a good lawyer there would've been a mistrial
Yes - it was a total sh!t show. Somehow I think that even in the 1960s this wasn't "standard operating procedure" in the Dallas police station. The chief officer should have locked down the building, and kicked EVERYBODY out who wasn't a police officer. That is what would happen today of course.
Personally I think Oswald was guilty as hell, a narcissistic fantasist political idealist loner who thought he deserved a higher purpose in life than he had. He saw an opportunity to do something truly shocking - and he took it. I'll bet he was ice cool when he pulled the trigger because he really believed in his fantasist political ideology. The way he bleats about being "hit by a policeman" when only moments prior he had shot a policeman to death shows what a delusional self pitying narcissist he was.
What makes me laugh is why people try and make out this guy was innocent. These nonsense conspiracy theories: why would ANY serious agency, or even the mafia, involve a thoroughly unreliable and psychologically unstable individual like Oswald to be part of a conspiracy to kill the President. He's the LAST person you would want to involve!! Not to mention all the multiple failure points of such a convoluted plan.
You may be right about a clever lawyer getting him off on legal technicalities though ...... had he lived and been tried.
The Dallas PD was in over their heads on this. They were ill prepared to handle how monumental it was, but they mostly got it right.
@@jetcat132No they didn't. They failed to protect the rights of an American citizen and the integrity of the biggest case in American history with their complete lack of professionalism for the reasons mentioned above. The fact that Jack Ruby was close to a lot of officers in the Dallas Police Department says a lot in itself.
They had no regard for Oswald's safety. He allegedly killed one of their own, killed the president, and shot their state governor-which is why I believe Oswald when he mentions an officer hit him. Let's be real here. Many police departments of big American cities in the 1960's were incredibly corrupt, and I wish I could say it was different now.
As the OP mentioned Oswald could've received a mistrial. He clearly asked for legal representation but never received it-at least up to the point where he speaks to the media. That alone would've spelled disaster for the Dallas Police Department.
@@BazookaTooth707 That’s fine, but in reality, I can certainly see how that happened in the chaos and pressure of those chaotic hours following the assassination.
Ruby was surely an informant and at times a host to members of the Dallas PD.
He obviously ingratiated himself to them, and in those days was probably considered pretty harmless. He blended in with the crush of reporters and photographers, and was hardly noticed. I agree with you as well that no big city police department is a shining example of professionalism, even today. They’re human beings just like everyone else, and subject to the same societal sins.
I think that today Oswald would never have been dragged around the building the way he was, but I hardly think they were propping him up to be killed. That event likely changed the way all high profile prisoners are moved around from a security standpoint, including wearing bullet proof vests during transport.
In 1963 Texas, I don’t believe there were Miranda rights yet, so I’m not surprised that law enforcement in this case would take advantage of the opportunity to interrogate Oswald. However, by all accounts, Oswald turned down at least one offer of representation from H.Louis Nichols, a Dallas attorney who went to speak to him. Oswald stated to Nichols that he wanted John Abt, an attorney from New York. Abt was associated with the American Civil Liberties Union and a member of the communist party. Nichols asked Oswald if he wanted him or a Dallas lawyer to represent him, and Oswald stated "No, not right now." That is Nichols account of his meeting with Oswald. My understanding is that Marina apparently attempted to contact Abt, but he wasn’t available.
There was also a ton of external pressure on the Dallas PD at the time from the Whitehouse, FBI, the press, and possibly even the Kennedy family. I’m sure it all contributed to any protocols they may have violated that weekend.
And he got the shit knocked out of him because he violently resisted arrest and tried to shoot another cop. He didn’t get roughed up in jail. He was smug and uncooperative, and was playing it to the hilt during those impromptu press conferences.
I do respect what you’re saying and agree with much of it. The Dallas Police may have terribly dropped the ball that weekend, but so did a lot of other agencies. And in the end, I believe they got it right, Oswald killed both Kennedy and Tippit, and that was my original point.
@@jetcat132 At this point it seems we are splitting hairs, respectively. We could go ad nauseum on the nuances, discrepancies, and facts of the case. Although, I would like to add that Oswald was already known to the public as a marxist. This meant he was an easy target, or at the least very unlikely to get fair treatment from his fellow Americans-especially in Dallas.
At the end of the day Oswald never got a fair trial. We will never know his side of the story. Knowing what we know now-even though they have yet to release the JFK files-the Warren Commission didn't receive all the evidence that was gathered by the intelligence community and was misled with fabricated evidence.
For example, Allen Dulles was well aware that Oswald was an intelligence asset, yet he omitted that from the Warren Commission. We know now that the FBI was keeping tabs on Oswald via a mailing campaign months before the assassination.
Another example would be the key pieces of evidence placing Oswald in Mexico City. Turns out this evidence never actually existed, as proven in a relatively recent court finding. The pieces of evidence I'm referring to are the pictures of Oswald at the Russian embassy in Mexico City, as well as a recorded phone call he allegedly made from the same embassy.
I appreciate your comment. You made very valid points about Miranda rights (or lack there of) and about Oswald turning down legal representation, as well as the chaotic atmosphere surrounding the event. But, as I mentioned above he was likely only to get fair treatment from someone more politically aligned. The final thing I would like to say is that I won't easily dismiss the idea that the Dallas Police had something extra going on. Officers were known to frequent Ruby's establishment. Did they want Oswald dead? Idk. But I do know that the best scapegoat is a dead one.
Poor security by the Dallas Police Department.
This poor dude
IT was so nice of Ruby to cater for the Assassination. He brought sandwiches and potato salad for the police on Friday. On Saturday he did the same thing for the press outside on the press bus. And look there is Jack Ruby in the Hall. It helps to have friends in high places when you are there to kill the Patsy.
I feel thats why they paraded him around for cameras. To allow Ruby to finish the job. He had to patiently wait for the right moment. Then the detective (?) hand signals Ruby to take the shot in the garage and Ruby replies💥
“I’m just a patsy.” He knew they set him up!
And then they had old Jack shut him up!
How could that comment not be followed up and disproved to eliminate credibility?
@@petersonlafollette3521exactly, and not a word to clear up that statement. Its probably classified info they will never let see the light of day
Yeah. They should have let him go because he said he was a patsy! You’re right!
At 0:44 that's Jack ruby!!!that is a day before ruby actually kills Oswald....what the heck is Jack ruby, doing in the police station at the arrest of Oswald???
Paul this whole thing is crazy! Iwasnt born when this happened and I remember in school they taught me jfk was assassinated...then when I got older and read about it, I would say to my dad, how the hell did the United States population but this shitburger? I mean, come on, this thing stinks, and I can't believe they took out a president.....then he would tell me that jfk, and bobby, ( mostly bobby). Had a lot of enemies.. ....but even still, I think the murder of jfk, in broad daylight, aside from pearl harbor and 9/11 was one of the worst events in our countries history.. And then your telling me when Oswald got shot, in broad daylight, on tv, the American people didn't know right there that something is seriously wrong with this
What would you do if someone said, someday, one of your kids will just not come home from school, EVER? Or your wife will have a car accident, and may not survive? What would you do? You would do whatever they asked you to do. You had been a marine, you knew what they were capable of. Robert Oswald?
I cannot imagine the last moments of Oswald's life. How cornered and scared he was. Not having legal representation, is taking away rights for a human despite the accusations. Kind of like a witch hunt. Right there, constitutes for a massive cover up.
"Cornered and scared?" He was passive, didn't even protest his innocence to his own family, and could barely keep the smug, self-satisfied smirk off his face whenever he was photographed.
@Richard Stephens "He said that." Oh, well, that changes everything. Good to know all a criminal has to do is say "I didn't do it" for that to be taken as conclusive evidence of his innocence. lol
Oswald was a violent child whose mother refused to get him help and told him constantly what a burden he was to her growing up. He was teased and bullied in the Marines but was a good marksman. He had a huge chip on his shoulder, hated America, defected, guilt-tripped the Russians into letting him remain by slashing his own wrist, hated it in Russia, returned to America with a wife he was abusing, made her take photos of him with his guns (and he proudly showed those photos off), left instructions for Marina what to do if he didn't return from taking a shot at Gen. Walker (and was devastated to learn he screwed that up), tried to defect to Cuba only weeks before the JFK assassination in order to fight for Castro, was turned down, was kicked out of the Russian embassy after they turned him down to return to Russia, and his wife finally left him. The night of Nov 23, he suddenly showed up at the house she was staying at, stayed over, was told by her there would be no reconciliation, and in the morning left behind his wedding ring and most of his money. He smuggled his rifle out of its storage place in the garage, lied about it being a package containing curtain rods he didn't need (and no rods were ever found by anyone), and hastily smuggled it into the TSBD. After the assassination, which computer analysis (for one) has demonstrated consisted of 3 shots fired squarely from his window, he was the only employee to immediately walk off his job without telling anyone, took evasive action back to his rooming house (3 witnesses firmly ID"d him making this journey), ignored the taxi driver when he asked what the chaos in the streets was about, ignored his landlady when she told him the stunning news of the assassination, popped into his room just long enough to grab his handgun, and, knowing it was just a matter of time before he was tracked down, started walking, playing out his own endgame. A long chain of witnesses firmly ID"d him at the scene of Tippit's killing and along his route into the theater, where he promptly tried to shoot the first officer to approach him and fought like a demon as he was subdued. He was arrogant and tight-lipped in custody. His wife and brother visited him and forever afterward firmly stated they knew at once he was guilty from his smug, cat-that-swallowed-the-canary demeanor. Given a chance to address a live tv audience, he displayed no particular horror regarding the two murders, did not jump up and down screaming his innocence, did not beg protection for his family as though he were under coercion, did not spill any beans regarding a conspiracy whatsoever, just made a throwaway response when asked about his eye "a policeman hit me" [as he disarmed Oswald as he tried to shoot him.] Even when his mugshot was taken he had a perfectly smug look on his face. He was so looking forward to being a living legend at his trial, and he would laugh himself silly seeing modern-day armchair detectives absolving this punk of his guilt and instead foisting it on a country and a system he had come to hate so much.
@Richard Stephens That's "who," not "how.," and by the way, "jackass" is one word.
So you couldn't answer, much less persuasively explain away, a single one of all the points I made above, just called me a name? The Warren Commission's lawyers wouldn't have stood a chance against you in court!
Oswald, warped as he was, wanted to lash back out at the world. Everything about this human time-bomb's biography is consistent with this. How does your average modern mass killer benefit from shooting up a concert or a schoolyard?
As for LBJ, since JFK hadn't even made up his mind what to do about Vietnam yet, presumably this was all a sinister plot to put LBJ in place so he could... pass more civil rights legislation than JFK ever would have attempted. The fiend! Also if LBJ "organized" the assassination he would then spend his entire Presidency a complete hostage to his co-conspirators and would forever be aware that any day, at any minute, somebody might crack and expose him, and if they were happy enough to kill JFK why would he have an ounce of trust that these guys wouldn't screw him too?
"Brainwashed idiots" still await a persuasive explanation of the following problem:
A conspiracy out to frame Oswald for killing Tippit would have to be absolutely certain in advance of the following things:
(a) That they can find a double for him so similar in looks and wardrobe to fool everyone
(b) Oswald will successfully escape the TSBD (and, indeed, leave it at all) and make for his rooming house
(c) Innocent man Oswald will pick up his gun and put on the right jacket at the last minute
(d) There will be a cop driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment between Oswald being at the rooming house and at the theater for Oswald to be plausibly blamed for killing him
(e) That Tippit won't get lucky, outdraw the double, and kill or capture him instead
(f) That nobody will ever see the real killer anywhere else in the neighbourhood as he makes his escape
(g) That nobody will see the real Oswald anywhere but at 10th and Patton and clear him
(h) That Oswald will be unable to prove he was anywhere other than at 10th and Patton during the shooting
(i) That every possible witness in this quiet suburban neighbourhood can be successfully pressured and threatened to lie their butts off to authorities and the media and remain silent about it all for the rest of their lives, for generations to come
(j) That Oswald will helpfully make himself look guilty by trying to murder Officer MacDonald in the theater before many witnesses only minutes later, virtually counting as a suicide-by-cop attempt (instead they fought him, kept him alive and rescued him from the lynch mob outside at their own personal risk)
(k) That Oswald won't say one single, concrete word about being framed for killing Tippit by a conspiracy to anyone, including his family and an audience of millions while appearing on live TV that same night
(l) That members of the Dallas P.D. can be successfully approached and recruited to put their own careers and lives on the line for no gain whatsoever by falsifying evidence, threatening witnesses, screwing around with line-ups, messing around with ballistics, and generally helping the real killer of a respected and decorated brother officer (with a wife and children) go scot free while they cheerfully help frame some innocent guy they don't even know for the crime, and that they will all remain so loyal to this unstable conspiracy they don't need to sweat any of them ever cracking and confessing or fingering them for the next 58 years
(m) That all of this insanely complicated and risky plotting and framing of a guy who's already being hunted for killing JFK and fleeing the TSBD, by means of yet another murder, of a police officer, where any number of things might well go horribly wrong for them and just end up confirming a conspiracy, requiring more cover-ups piled atop more cover-ups, is even worth the trouble in the first place.
It looked to me like he was finally enjoying the attention he brought upon himself for the first time in his life. Nobody showed up to his funeral. He had no friends. He was finally a star. You can see the smugness on his face. He doesn't looked scared at all.
5:12 , "oh, we have to indoctrinate this guy," WTF?
I heard that too. What the heck
Indoctrinate : to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle.
Boy, does that fit perfectly or what?
look up George De Mohrenschildt, Lee's so called closest friend, theres you link to everything and everyone
He had Bush seniors name and number in his personal phone book they knew each other very well.
George de mohrenchildt
Yeah and he was later murdered like so many others. George H W Bush was also in on it. Oswald was innocent
First time I've ever heard the audio of Oswald denying showing jfk. I've heard him say he was a patsy but never heard the denial.
What do you expecting him to say, would you? The denial and Im a patsy crap, he's just playing with them he was loving every minute of it.
@@leemoore9933 Yes, you know because you were there, right? Prior assassins screamed that they did their deed ("Death to the traitor!" and so on....). THIS MAN DENIES IT. You're being illogical and you must have an agenda.
@@leemoore9933 you’re a moron. If the man wanted to assassinate the President due to ideological differences why not be proud of what you’ve done? People like you are the reason lies can be perpetuated in the first place.
Lee was/is an American hero.
This was handled so unprofessionally so many people around Oswald , there shouldn't have been.
Oswald’s face when the reporter tells him he has been charged with the president’s murder !
Does make me think that there is more to it than meets the eye
He knew he was caught, nothing more, nothing less. He made an impulsive decision in his deluded mind, and now reality was knocking.
@@jetcat132 quite possibly but not definitely 👍
Towards the end of his life I feel like he knew he was double crossed.
What a disgrace, put on by the “finest” of the Dallas police department. They paraded the ‘supposed lone assassin’ of the president through crowded hallways trying to give Jack Ruby an opportunity to do his part. In one segment Oswald isn’t even cuffed! Perhaps the authorities were hoping he’d attempt escape and they’d shoot him dead on the spot. I also noticed the taller detective in the light colored suit, the same suit he’d wear the next day while escorting Oswald to be shot by Jack Ruby. Something about his suit always seemed a bit odd to me, since all the other men wore dark suits. Then I realized he was Ruby’s signal of how close Oswald was getting to the muzzle of his pistol.
Jim Leavelle's suit is held in the National Archives. As is Jackie Kennedy's pink suit (though that's not available to the public).
I agree. Ruby was waiting across the street minutes before LHO came down the elevator. that is proved. levealle passes by a window. Ruby see the bright suit. Its a signal and then races over to the basement. A horn honks EXACTLY the moment LHO enters the basement next to the man in the bright suit - Jim Leveale. Ruby's queue to attack. I think Jim was in on it
Jack Ruby is standing in the hallway during a hallway scene. At frame 5:39 Oswald is signaling someone by mouthing a silent statement to unknown persons. Need lip reading analysis. Very interesting
Press are told by Dallas police not to asked Oswald any questions because he ‘becomes more belligerent and harder to interrogate’.
Or Oswald might start naming names to that same press?
Is that why he said nothing to either his family or the live television audience of millions that same night when those same police allowed him the chance to address the nation?
Oswald stage 1. Confused and isn't sure of what they are trying to pin on him but confident he will not be charged and let go mostly concerned he hasn't had a chance to get a lawyer.
2. Defiant as he realizes he is being unjustly going charged with killing a police man. but he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. He is rather certain at the 2nd accusation of him killing the president is some crazy rumor.
3.Genuine afraid when he realizes the shit has hit the fan he is being railroaded and charged with both murdering a police officer and the president
Is that what you consider evidence?
klrdotorg
What do you care?
Unjustly charged.... So a mystery man who was his exact double, and who instantly disappeared without a trace, just happened to shoot Tippit at a location midway between Oswald's rooming house and the theater, and was seen be a steady chain of witnesses dong the shooting and fleeing, at EXACTLY the right moment so that Oswald could be plausibly blamed for it. Those conspirators sure were lucky all those suburban homeowners in the neighbourhood could be counted on so reliably to claim Oswald was the man they saw for the rest of their lives...
0:43 JACK RUBY?!?!? Really?!
The clearest view of Kennedy's car was from behind the fence on the grass knoll.
The signal man was the umbrella man.
The sniper could wait in a parked car in the parking lot. When the umbrella man gave a signal of the approaching Limousine, then the Sniper could set up for his shot.
Whe the President was killed the umbrella man signaled with the umbrella.
The Sniper got in the car parked behind the fence, and was out of Dallas in minutes.
The grass knoll was perfect for the sniper to wait, shot, & get away.
The moment a man’s voice said “nobody say what?” The questions stopped. Did Lee know the man?
4:47 - "I don't know what kind of facts you people have been given -- but I emphatically deny these charges!" The trial, had he lived, would have been a real barn burner. Without a doubt, the trial of the century.
Easily, would have made oj look like mayberry.