You have to translate the dialog to our current language. As a modern and strong female she just couldn't handle the toxic masculine (dark) side of him, if he would be weak (light) everything would be fine. She couldn't handle to be called "queen" as that implies being a weak woman. She just wanted to have a neutral title :). Why getting power from a strong man and being light, if you just csn kill of that strong man🤣🤣...I really wonder if that was the true message of amazin prime?
Her arch in season 1 is straight from Pride and Prejudice. The writers might not be janeaustens but overall it worked. She didn't give in to her Darcy though.
Oddly enough, Galadriel DID. She lied to Elrond, and yo everyone else she didn't warn after she found out that Sauron was Sauron. This show really is the worst kind of predictable garbage.
Not really. Sauron is very charming when he wants to be. He became Pharazon adviser. He charmed the elves into making the rings. Charming his enemy is basically his second modus operandi (first mo being war)
Three likes for the realms of Man, three for the Elves, and yet three more for the dwarven folk... It was prophesied that there was one more like that remains to reveal itself...
The reality is that he wants to stay in numenor to convince and cheat the King of numenor to put men against elves. That provocked a division between numeroneans. "Divide them and you Will defeat them"
Honestly, that's one thing they did that was very much in keeping with the lore. Sauron, before he was cursed to "never again appear in fair form" (after the Numenorean invasion), was a very charismatic manipulator. There's a reason the called him The Deceiver.
@@AJKecsk The problem with this reveal is there is no reason for Sauron to do this. I think Rings of Power blew their twist too soon. Have Sauron be less suspicious and have the reveal happen in a later season. It's a shame because the actor is doing a great job.
Too bad her voice and face is the exact opposite. She has the worst resting birch face I've ever seen. And her voice is worse than rubbing styrofoam together on a chalkboard.
@@tomhidley6763 I watch like 20 minutes of the first episode galadriel is the most insufferable character. Uglier than stepping barefoot in dog shit and have it crease between your toes. Literal torture to on my eyes and ears. And the show is so far off Canon. She's supposed to be one of the oldest elves in Middle-Earth. But they made her younger in terms of age and personality. It's really annoying. I have seen halbrand act though. He's actually really good. But galadriel drags him down. She does an excellent job at being insufferable though
@@luizerald9215 When I saw the first episode the first thing I told my brother was "Halbrand is sauron". If you know the lore it was VERY obvious. Who else could it be?
Even then. He didn't even need to tell her the truth. He could have denied it. But this guy just keeps telling the truth. This sauron isn't even deceptive. He's one of the most honest characters in the show. Unironically. She literally brought Sauron out of retirement
I mean, so is Devil. It's a depiction. Neo Christians, the bad ones, are those who are making the Devil a liar. In every form, in every tale, the form of devil is charming with his truth. So, yeah. Sauron, and every true Villain that respects himself and his cause, only tells truth.
Characters are only ever as intelligent as the people writing them. This Sauron had to literally spell it out to her, so I’ll let you guess as to the general quality of the writing the writing staff.
That's part of an elite deception, establish yourself as the most trustworthy person in the world so you can ultimately destroy everyone who trusted you when the time is right
@@lorigulfnoldor2162 true, but getting into the nitty gritty of the cosmology, it harkens back to when Melkor/Morgoth began to sing yet didn't exactly join in the themes to, "increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself." He tried to supercede it, to stand exceptional in creation and Eru's themes. The third time he actively defied Eru until he had a, 'if I have to get up off this couch-' moment. While all Valar and Maiar (Ainur) are of Ilúvatar/Eru, the Ainur 'praising' to him did not count themselves alone or above his works (firstly, being their own 'part' in the themes). So Sauron here telling us with all the swagger in the world that he's older/solitary than the music that formed all others together, by a theme conducted by and in praise of Ilúvatar, is rather braggadocio and is obviously a moment that would make ol' Melkor chuffed at the imitation.
@@TheKa89Which is all the more deceitful since Sauron was not even of Melkor's stock, he was primordially a rightfully obedient Maia of Good and served a different Vala - a Vala of Light, not Darkness - before joining Melkor... Well, I guess his new Master taught him well :D
@@lorigulfnoldor2162 Yep, he did arguably learn well and most likely to someone such as Galadriel who would remember Morgoth's imprisonment(s), would appear like imitation/bragging now that he has no master at this point. Also, the Valar he served formally, Aulë, has an embarassing habit of Maïar in his service turning rogue through pride. Saruman, for example, was also a Maïar originally in service to Aulë. I always thought it was a theme that connected them to Aulë's own 'secretive' creation of the dwarves, whereas he showed humility to Eru about it, his Maïar by in large, do not.
@@TheKa89 Or maybe does this have to do with Tolkien's disdain of machines of any kind, of big smoky metal things, of "leverage" that machines create in general, making people unequal to one another and making it so that rich, powerful and evil can buy enough machines with their resources to oppress the poor who could have a fighting chance against tyrants with their simple bows and clubs against tyrant's simple swords and armor, but have no such chance against machines? I mean, Aule was a smith, no? As was Sauron. Also, as was Feanor, even if Feanor is not canonically "evil".
I’m here after the second season. ROP definitely made him Annatar Lord of Gifts. IMO they are doing a far better job with the source text than most give them credit for. Not exactly sure how anyone thought staying completely true to the Silmarillion at all points, with no creative license, was going to be a watchable show. There are times that it’s barely readable, much less filled with compelling visuals and in-depth character development that a screenwriter would just be able to copy and paste. But where it is, the show has been faithful. And where it is not, the show remains dedicated to telling the story.
@@Insanity_CrowI mean, the Numenorians lived for hundreds of years before notably aging, and the elves are immortal so it’s quite plausible that he would have never been discovered before it’s too late.
@mileshostetler2469 in the lore he takes over Numenor, and turns them in to ritual sacrificial maniacs essentially, and then caused the land of Numenor to be destroyed by the Gods, due to twisting the Numenoreans and making them believe they had a right to immortality like the Elves had etc.
"I was going to Valinor to give myself to Valar for their judgment, but in the short time I've known you you've made me realize that I was right about your kind."
@@karlukvp I mean, have you seen young Sean Connery? The man was definitely up there by conventional beauty standards of that time. Also, I'm making a generalization. Obviously there are many exceptions lol
He literally never lied. He wasn't upfront about his name or past, but she literally told him to let go of his past. He *DIDNT WANT* to be Sauron, but she kept forcing him toward power until he was like "okay, fine."
@@paulisconi2264 how the f did u made up that a guy demolishing 5 guys by himself is automatically THE DARK LORD? Like in LotR a human can kill like 50 orcs in a Hallway and die by a arrow shot from his back
@@Sa.d.bo26 the not-Gandalf guy says "Im... Good." when he is fighting the 3 witches. It's a stupid line, but at least it would match if Sauron said it.
When? Tell me at what point this is happening so I can see what you're talking about, because I read your comment and I'm not seeing it. Or is it just in other video clips besides this one?
@@My_trashtalking_account i don't know, either u perceive it or don't. it's subtle, fleeting feeling on the edges of instict how should i make u see it i wonder?
@@jbear3478 i am honestly helpless if u can't see it, or mbe determined not to see it. truth is, i am very biased against this show, but the acting of this actor did draw me in. it's a very subtle feeling, rather ephemeral, i have no proof at all sorry.
@@aminiqbal4907 - Except, Halbrand told Galadriel, that he was not a good person. She created this persona of him being the exiled King of the Southlands and used it to manipulate everyone in Numenor.
@@ChienaAvtzon well she obviously knew where Sauron would settle or was planning on to settle, so giving the people of that realm their king back would help them withstand him and likely with the aid of the elves if she returned back to middle earth.
@@MrLee-cy1pw people who know well the lore ahve spot it quite easilly, but for others, who only know what was shown in the movie, they know very little about Sauron
"I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence. In that time, I have had many names." Man, I love that line, and his delivery is great
What are you talking about? How can her heart be broken if she has no heart at all? She condemned her own people to die just because of her will to go forward, remember?
"I've Been Awake Since The Breaking Of The First Silence, In That Time, I've Gone By Many Names" Sauron is a Maiar, he has nothing to prove, nothing to boast, no need to impress. Just a sly intellect that this line perfectly embodies.
We all knew this reveal was coming, but I love how Galadriel tries to put it on him as if it was his idea to come to middle earth when all along was her trying to manipulate everybody else to come to middle earth. Even after the reveal you’re still rooting for Sauron.
@@MahoneyBadger In the book, he humbled himself before Eönwë, the herald of Manwë, who told him to go to Valinor to receive the Elder King's judgement. He instead hid in Middle-earth. Assuming they are keeping this much of the books true in the context of the show, he probably did put himself on that ship.
@@johng9095 he could have also been trying to make it to Numeanor and his ship got destroyed. This scene is kind of poignant because it feels like maybe he had plans but instead he just followed Galadriel around to see what would happen.
The way he changed his behavior from Halbrand we saw to the clever Dark lord we know. They don't call him Sauron the deceiver/shapeshifter for nothing lol
"So what's your idea for a LOTR show?" "Make Sauron a real yummy hubby type dude but it's really dramatic. Coz he's actually Sauron." "Here's $800 million."
There is nothing more classic then a big bad menace youve heard about and just imagined the most awful things of to reveal themselves and they actually be handsome/beautiful and extremely charming.
In the books his "fair form" is called Annatar who called himself the "lord of gifts" but if they did that in the series it would've been an easy giveaway.. I became 100% certain when he said to Celebrimbor "call it a gift" that he was sauron
This is the part I don't get: the series opened with her search for Sauron and she almost literally went to the edge of the world. So how the fuck she was looking for something that can't even recognise when she finds it?)
@@patrikbodro4717 Clearly she was clueless on what Sauron looks like. She was expecting a hideous creature like 🐗Adar but little did she know Sauron can change his features.
So freaking funny. I don't think he ever lied to her haha. It was just her constnatly dragging him along n putting him in situations that led to this. Anytime he told her the truth she just ignored it haha. Spectular writing 😆
I like how the music themes for Halbrand and Sauron are merged in this scene! (Right after he says “I've been awake since before the breaking of the first silence”...)
He was my favorite character, only because everyone else was fairly unlikeable. Galadriel was insufferable, and I’m glad Sauron came out and said “I never said I was king. That was you. And fighting in the south,ands, that was your idea, too. And I’m way older than you.” Then he turns aside her knife like it’s nothing.
The actor for Sauron is pretty good, the way his eyes kind of go blank / get this “faraway stare” look when he stops pretending to be human, you can almost get the notion that he’s a spiritual being speaking through a fana just from his facial change.
@@BierBart12 This disgraceful gathering of people, thinking those copy & paste anti-woke brainfarts they're all posting here stuck on a repeat show how "gifted" they are is fittingly: fun to watch just like the show
Unfortunately he did lie and used galadriel. Sauron has a mind of "cogs and wheels" as Tolkien puts it, he uses emotion to get what he wants, but there's not a shred of empathy there
He is in a human form and probably humanising is something that is happened with him. Remember what Galadriel said at the beginning - nobody is born evil or something like that. Direct reference to Sauron.
@@irinabush1383 very true he wasn't he was coerced by Melkor (morgoth), but even Tolkien said the evil and malice In sauron was much greater than his masters, he had zero empathy and emotion towards others. It was a ruse to sway galadriel not to tell the others who he is, he failed and fled
His character is written and played so well He never once lied to Galadriel about who he was and what he had done but always kept it vague and unrevealing
i mean in context of you being ashamed of your past and the chaotic commotion that will create when people learn you are the big bad dark lord, it is reasonable to just said i am an evil person that shouldn't be worthy of kingship and should be left alone to repent my sins in a dark corner of some remote island without explaining more
I think it is interesting that it isnt clear at what point he decided to conquer middle earth, was he planning on subverting numenor if she left him there? Was he genuinely trying to live the quiet life? Did she inspire him to take up the mantle of dark lord after he had retired or was he always trying to get her to put him in power? So many possibilities.
I'll never forget the part where Sauron looks directly at the camera, gives a cheeky smile and says 'It's Sauron time' and just has a big laugh about it
This was so awesome and instantly made this show soooo much better! Just amazing and his acting was spot on! Awake before the breaking of the first silence.
We all knew it was Sauron but I loved how all of this was her doing she was the one that convinced the armies to come, she was the one that vouched for the crown, she was the one that saved him during the battle and she was the one that brought him to the elves. He really was just her pawn the entire time
Or did he look just let her think she was doing all that for him? for example, when he was injured, seemingly on the point of death, and Galadriel rode him to the elves, was he truly on death's door, or was this all part of his plan?? You see that's what I can't seem to reconcile. if A) Halbrandt/Sauron was out in the middle of the ocean purposely to run into Galadriel and start this sequence of events. or B) was he truly Fed Up of all the evil he had done, and being honest the whole time, and Galadriel actually brought the lust for power and domination back out of him??
@@Daveyboy_RS3 he was hoping to go to Nuemoer to corrupt the people there because he will later do that. That's why he want to stay so badly that what his original plan but now the people there distaste for elves have been cemented which was his unintentional bonus, his two great foes will probably not get together and will be ripe for corruption down the road.
@@Daveyboy_RS3 I think he was out in the ocean trying to make his way to Numeanor and just happened to run into her. Then whatever plans he had he folded on and just let her do her thing to see where it would go. It’s not like time is an issue for him. He opted for patience where as Galadriel has none
@@user-bz4ys4hp6z I have read the books, and this show follows the lore pretty well. You're just a bitter person with darkness in your heart. Lighten up.
For real dude, and she could have binded him to the light like he said and galadriel could've redeemed him... He seemed sincere when they were talking on the boat
@@dariasavina1056 i don't think she could turn him to the light. but i don't think he could turn her to the dark either. They would have been somewhere in between i think. According to the books sauron or mairon Was a maiar. And a pupil of aulë. The valar(god/archangel) that created the dwarfs. This is why sauron is such a good smith. The thing is sauron wanted to seek order in the chaos. And morgoth promised this. But he obviously got deceived. He would be not good nor bad i think.
That a charscter named "Helbrand" (?) or something comes from "Hell" ("Hölle") and "brand" ("fire") is of course only for a very few people a really big surprise....
My jaw was on the floor when Sauron said "I am vengeance, I am the night... I AM SAURON" then turned into a giant flaming eye and Sauron'd everyone. Truly a Rings of Power moment.
It's funny that everybody is like 'im rooting for Sauron at this point' or 'he is so much more likeable than xyz'. Well yes. That's actually the point and it does show that the series did a good job after all. Read the Silmarillion guys. He was fair, beautiful, charming, smart, convincing, deceitful and manipulating with words of kindness and wisdom while many Elves (of middle earth, not valinor) were fighting, proud, selfish and even cruel in that age...
This series did just about the worst possible job, making him an actual decent guy instead of a deceiver, and dumbing down Galadriel beyond repair. The story is so far from what Tolkien wrote at this point that it’s unfixable, and all for the sake of some dumb modern TV mystery box writing that everyone figured out by episode 1.
That's exactly why they did a bad job. A great villain is supposed to be someone you root AGAINST, whether they're likeable or not. They also made the MC an insufferable prick which adds more salt to the wound.
no you didnt get it. the whole color of the plot was women and people of color representing good and the ultimate villain is a straight white male. it was too obvious what they were going for and did the exact opposite of what they intended. they fired their writers for a reason. there is a reason this show is a flop. the tolkien fandom already knew they would ruin Tolkiens legacy way before the show was officially released and they were right.
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I never would've guessed sauron was sauron what a plot twist
Exactly my lord
Lol
You stay away from the lady Galadriel or I will send two more hobbits
“What a twist!”
@@gandalfthewhite.5245 You have no business here, come back in the third age
Thing is, he wasn't even lying. He told her many times that he wasn't the hero she was seeking. She just wasn't listening. Lol.
What did you expect from Karendriel
You have to translate the dialog to our current language. As a modern and strong female she just couldn't handle the toxic masculine (dark) side of him, if he would be weak (light) everything would be fine. She couldn't handle to be called "queen" as that implies being a weak woman. She just wanted to have a neutral title :). Why getting power from a strong man and being light, if you just csn kill of that strong man🤣🤣...I really wonder if that was the true message of amazin prime?
True, it's her fault bringing Sauron out of retirement.
Her arch in season 1 is straight from Pride and Prejudice. The writers might not be janeaustens but overall it worked. She didn't give in to her Darcy though.
Because she was tempted with that damn pretty face.
"I have had many names, but you can call me... ThE LorD of ThE RIngS
Bruh😂😂😂
🤭🤣🤣🤣
(SUS face)
ROLL CREDITS 🙌
Cringe
The irony is the Sauron is called a deceiver, yet he didn’t lie ONCE in that show
You don't need to lie to deceive.
Oddly enough, Galadriel DID. She lied to Elrond, and yo everyone else she didn't warn after she found out that Sauron was Sauron. This show really is the worst kind of predictable garbage.
This is consistent with several versions of the Devil. But it’s not consistent AT ALL with Sauron.
Lying by omission is still lying.
in his defense, he did look like a young dude, when he is actually super duper old... that kind of qualifies as lying, no?
They really did make Sauron more likable than Galadriel, that's an achievement!
it's not hard with the script she was given lol
That might have been their intention. In which case they created a perfect script
He's supposed to be likeable so fools like you get suckered in.
Not really. Sauron is very charming when he wants to be. He became Pharazon adviser. He charmed the elves into making the rings. Charming his enemy is basically his second modus operandi (first mo being war)
That's obviously intentional for the watcher to be manipulated by Sauron just as Galadriel and everyone were
"you know I'm something of a sauron myself"
Lol
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Lmao that was far funnier than it had any right to be 😂😂
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"Of course I know him. He's me!"
General Kenobi
@@Eryk.Burkharthyou are a bold one
'I am not the dark lord you're looking for'
General Sauron
Sauron: ‘ i have bought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire’
Galadriel: ‘ Your new Empire!??’
I loved it when he said 'I AM THE LORD OF THE RINGS' and started throwing rings all over the place
Three likes for the realms of Man, three for the Elves, and yet three more for the dwarven folk...
It was prophesied that there was one more like that remains to reveal itself...
And Sonic The Hedgehog franticly began collecting the golden rings like a desperate junkie 8)
“IT’S RINGIN’ TIME!”
@@millerman7799 sounds like a scene from robot chicken
no that didn't happen
Halbrand: "Say my name."
Galadriel: "................. you're Sauron."
Sauron: "You're goddamn right!"
😂😂😂
But the cartel killed Sauron.
The reality is that he wants to stay in numenor to convince and cheat the King of numenor to put men against elves. That provocked a division between numeroneans.
"Divide them and you Will defeat them"
@@jaxbron4772 You sure?
HeisenSauron!!!
Sauron: Iam not good I did bad thing in the past let me start a new life here.
Galadriel: I can change him
How toxic relationships usually begin lol
@@awordofhonorshizunimanunta1880 Toxic man and women relationship 😂
She was trying to fix him to avoid fixing herself.
I'm literally the devil's right hand
"But I can change him"
She sucked his dick and fell beast jizz came out
And she took it all over her tiddies
halbrand actor did a great job here. say what you will about the show.
The show is crap but I agree
@@B1GK1NG fr the amount of anger i will have if halbrand is Sauron
@@B1GK1NG i still believe that Halbrand is either the witch king or the mouth of sauron
@@SomebodynamedChris nah he’s Wokeman
@@B1GK1NG why did you continue watching it then ?
I love when sauron said "its lordin time" and lorded all over the place.
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Even without seeing this show, I’m f**king dying laughing from this comment 😂
@@BroJ3221 I haven't seen it yet either tbh 😅
Fuckin killed me 😂😂😂😂
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"Sauron? Sauron who?"
"Sauron Skywalker."
"Somehow, Gandalf returned."
_From a certain point of view..._
@@AnnoyingNewslettersDon't lecture me Obi Wan
Damn, Sauron looks very much like Aragorn
You’re not my father. I’ll never join you and the Dark Side!
Finally we now have the main character of the show we can root for
lol how sad but true in a way
Sauron is the most interesting character in middle earth imo so I wouldn’t mind him playing a big role. I think I would love it
I'm rooting for gandulf and nori
This is the reason why Saruman became a fanboy
Ew.
I was in tears when Halbrand said " It's Sauroning time!" and Sauroning all over the place
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@konkakonkadudu that's what she said
Never gets old 😴
I like it how he says "My name is Sauron. James Sauron"
Licensed to thrill...
Lol😂😂😂😂😂
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When Sauron is the most likeable character in your series....
As it should be!
Honestly, that's one thing they did that was very much in keeping with the lore. Sauron, before he was cursed to "never again appear in fair form" (after the Numenorean invasion), was a very charismatic manipulator. There's a reason the called him The Deceiver.
Braindead
@@AJKecsk The problem with this reveal is there is no reason for Sauron to do this. I think Rings of Power blew their twist too soon. Have Sauron be less suspicious and have the reveal happen in a later season. It's a shame because the actor is doing a great job.
Hey come on that ain’t fair
Elrond and Durin were also very likeable
Finally the show gave us someone to root for
And he is the bad guy
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@filiblackthorn is he really in this show? He was honest about everything and she was manipulating and forcing him to do things.
@@arturturkevych3816 he was honest in questions, but... There's a definite sin of omission here.
Yeah Sadoc but they killed him off.
Nobody goes off trail!
And no-one goes anywhere alone!
I like how his voice and manner changed after she asked for his name
Too bad her voice and face is the exact opposite. She has the worst resting birch face I've ever seen. And her voice is worse than rubbing styrofoam together on a chalkboard.
Kind of the only cool clip in the whole sodding show. It was so obvious he was Sauron though. Not exactly a twist 😂
@@tomhidley6763 I watch like 20 minutes of the first episode galadriel is the most insufferable character. Uglier than stepping barefoot in dog shit and have it crease between your toes. Literal torture to on my eyes and ears. And the show is so far off Canon. She's supposed to be one of the oldest elves in Middle-Earth. But they made her younger in terms of age and personality. It's really annoying. I have seen halbrand act though. He's actually really good. But galadriel drags him down. She does an excellent job at being insufferable though
@@tomhidley6763 after 8 ep is really obvious right? Genius
@@luizerald9215 When I saw the first episode the first thing I told my brother was "Halbrand is sauron". If you know the lore it was VERY obvious. Who else could it be?
2001 cheering for Frodo. 2024 cheering for Sauron. Should I say more?
Maybe the real One Ring was the Sauron we met along the way...
This joke is older than AOL.
@@micab7660I still kinda like it though
Because Fairy Tail by Hiroyuki Mashima lives rent free in people's heads, whether they like to admit it or Not . @@micab7660
Popped me😂😂👏
Even then. He didn't even need to tell her the truth. He could have denied it. But this guy just keeps telling the truth. This sauron isn't even deceptive. He's one of the most honest characters in the show. Unironically. She literally brought Sauron out of retirement
I mean, so is Devil. It's a depiction. Neo Christians, the bad ones, are those who are making the Devil a liar. In every form, in every tale, the form of devil is charming with his truth. So, yeah. Sauron, and every true Villain that respects himself and his cause, only tells truth.
Characters are only ever as intelligent as the people writing them. This Sauron had to literally spell it out to her, so I’ll let you guess as to the general quality of the writing the writing staff.
That's part of an elite deception, establish yourself as the most trustworthy person in the world so you can ultimately destroy everyone who trusted you when the time is right
He was rubbing it in her face. He was like, "haha, you fell for my deception".
@@Mario-ln3zihe is the deceiver. Of course he wouldn't have made it easy to understand.
'I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence, in that time I have had many names'
That epic line alone has me rooting for Sauron😅
Loll. He basically is saying he was around even before the Big Bang.
@@ahsin2012 big bang is not canon for middle earth.
Seriously probably the most tolkien-ish lines in the whole season.
@@toad_of_the_sky It’s not even logically “cannon” for this Earth either
@@anniebaker6763 correct
My favorite part of this show is when Sauron said his catch phrase "It's Sauron Time" and "You Just Got Sauroned".
that sounds like something Arnold Schwarzenegger would say ...
😂 😂 😂
I like how he just casually says he's older than the music of Ilúvatar.
... That's actually some pretty in-character hubris, ngl.
Technically, isn't every valar and maiar like that? They were _existing_ before they _started to sing_. Existence precedes singence.
@@lorigulfnoldor2162 true, but getting into the nitty gritty of the cosmology, it harkens back to when Melkor/Morgoth began to sing yet didn't exactly join in the themes to, "increase the power and glory of the part assigned to himself." He tried to supercede it, to stand exceptional in creation and Eru's themes. The third time he actively defied Eru until he had a, 'if I have to get up off this couch-' moment. While all Valar and Maiar (Ainur) are of Ilúvatar/Eru, the Ainur 'praising' to him did not count themselves alone or above his works (firstly, being their own 'part' in the themes). So Sauron here telling us with all the swagger in the world that he's older/solitary than the music that formed all others together, by a theme conducted by and in praise of Ilúvatar, is rather braggadocio and is obviously a moment that would make ol' Melkor chuffed at the imitation.
@@TheKa89Which is all the more deceitful since Sauron was not even of Melkor's stock, he was primordially a rightfully obedient Maia of Good and served a different Vala - a Vala of Light, not Darkness - before joining Melkor... Well, I guess his new Master taught him well :D
@@lorigulfnoldor2162 Yep, he did arguably learn well and most likely to someone such as Galadriel who would remember Morgoth's imprisonment(s), would appear like imitation/bragging now that he has no master at this point. Also, the Valar he served formally, Aulë, has an embarassing habit of Maïar in his service turning rogue through pride. Saruman, for example, was also a Maïar originally in service to Aulë. I always thought it was a theme that connected them to Aulë's own 'secretive' creation of the dwarves, whereas he showed humility to Eru about it, his Maïar by in large, do not.
@@TheKa89 Or maybe does this have to do with Tolkien's disdain of machines of any kind, of big smoky metal things, of "leverage" that machines create in general, making people unequal to one another and making it so that rich, powerful and evil can buy enough machines with their resources to oppress the poor who could have a fighting chance against tyrants with their simple bows and clubs against tyrant's simple swords and armor, but have no such chance against machines? I mean, Aule was a smith, no? As was Sauron. Also, as was Feanor, even if Feanor is not canonically "evil".
Sauron in disguise in the books: Annatar Lord of Gifts.
Sauron in disguise in ROP: Totally not Sauron Lord of Subverting Expectations
He literally said “call it a gift” and if you look close you can catch him pause and wink at the camera
@@damienruzco so that's why there was a laugh track and the baseline playing
They seemed to red herring the audience into thinking he was going to be one of the 9 Ringwraiths actually.
I’m here after the second season.
ROP definitely made him Annatar Lord of Gifts.
IMO they are doing a far better job with the source text than most give them credit for.
Not exactly sure how anyone thought staying completely true to the Silmarillion at all points, with no creative license, was going to be a watchable show. There are times that it’s barely readable, much less filled with compelling visuals and in-depth character development that a screenwriter would just be able to copy and paste. But where it is, the show has been faithful. And where it is not, the show remains dedicated to telling the story.
"...but you can call me steve"
Steve's a lot less scary... Oh great and powerful Steve, what do you want? - Over The Hedge
Perhaps, his name is Jeff...older guys detection test :D
YGOTAS, is that you?
With his evil army of Steve's?
“There are some who call me…Tim.”
Galadriel realizes if she weren't such a twerp Sauron might have enjoyed a quiet life in Numenor as a blacksmith lol
Nah, it'd take four years, but pretty soon Sauron would have been running the place.
@@Izak-pf2ux I’d give him two 😹
Until enough years pass and everyone starts wondering why this random blacksmith won't age or die.
@@Insanity_CrowI mean, the Numenorians lived for hundreds of years before notably aging, and the elves are immortal so it’s quite plausible that he would have never been discovered before it’s too late.
@mileshostetler2469 in the lore he takes over Numenor, and turns them in to ritual sacrificial maniacs essentially, and then caused the land of Numenor to be destroyed by the Gods, due to twisting the Numenoreans and making them believe they had a right to immortality like the Elves had etc.
I guess sometimes our greatest enemy is the friend we made along the way.
Hey scotty! Jesus man!
*triumphant music*
This is quite litteraly a depiction of the season in a sentence
The secret Dark Lords don’t want you to know…
The Friend of the Rings
One friend to rule them all
The best actor and by far the most likable character on the show.
Chadbrand chadroun
@@dasitmane7590 Sigma Lord of the Chads. 😂
I like the black elf
Your forgetting - & the tastiest lol 😂
No @@economichitman
Love how he's like "oh you caught me, now let's get married" 😂
Best way I’ve heard it broken down
@@randomanimations2591 thanks:)
Lolz I knowwww.
i don't know if he said exactly the same thing she said to frodo in the first movie, but that was so perfect i got chills
Epic hahaha 🤣
Halbrand: - I identify myself as Sauron.
Galadriel: - Are you kidding me?
the portrayal of Sauron/Halbrand is one of the few things I liked in this show
there were some signs leading up to it lol
@@jenniferwithers684 no shit
@@jenniferwithers684 hell nah, it never occured to me he was sauron
A skilled warrior who wanted to be forgotten sure, but never sauron 😳
I rather enjoyed the friendship between Elrond and Durin
@@DavieJones_Lockr yeah that was pretty good as well
"I was going to Valinor to give myself to Valar for their judgment, but in the short time I've known you you've made me realize that I was right about your kind."
Sauron is actually more likable than Galadriel 😂 I’d watch a SAURON show with this premise
Well looks like they heard you, season 2 is gonna be all about Sauron, you'll see
Then we're in luck! 😉
End of August, it's happening. 😮
It's rooting for the likeable bad guy time. 😊
@javiflaja4063 I can't believe Amazon greenlit more of this tripe. Clearly they have something against money and a good reputation
Modern acting is just models fucking staring at each other and smirking.
Cinema largely always has been.
I'm not saying that's a good thing either.
We definitely need to mix it up more lol.
Bahahahahaha so true lmao
@@CryptidRenfri yeha cause people like sean connery were such a model
@@karlukvp I mean, have you seen young Sean Connery? The man was definitely up there by conventional beauty standards of that time.
Also, I'm making a generalization. Obviously there are many exceptions lol
There’s a reason he is called “Sauron the Deceiver.”
Because he named him like that after this
From what I understand about this Peggy Sue Show, he never deceived her at all. Her womanhood deafened her ears and put some Spocks in her jocks.
He didn’t deceive them
He literally never lied. He wasn't upfront about his name or past, but she literally told him to let go of his past.
He *DIDNT WANT* to be Sauron, but she kept forcing him toward power until he was like "okay, fine."
@@alexjgilpin that's called manipulation, you don't have to lie to deceive people, just told them the truth they wanna hear
Plot twist..Galadriel just had an epiphany that Sauron is indeed, Sauron.
And here that had me thinking Gandalf wasn’t Gandalf but that Gandalf was Sauron!
when he dropped those 5 numenoreans fairly easily bare handed i was like hold up hold up lol
This was actually the exact moment I realized he was sauron
@@paulisconi2264 how the f did u made up that a guy demolishing 5 guys by himself is automatically THE DARK LORD? Like in LotR a human can kill like 50 orcs in a Hallway and die by a arrow shot from his back
@@caioqueiroz9750 a gay??🤣🤣🤣
@@NatTurnergrandsonChrisdorner OPS LOL A GUY***
@@NatTurnergrandsonChrisdorner I am laughing so f hard right now
"I've been awake since the breaking of the first silence - and at times - I've had MANY names" gave my goosebumps
“You’re not the king of the Southlands, are you! 😠 “
“No. But to be fair, you were the one who insisted I was. 😒”
Fake Galadriel is like CIA
Putting random guys in charge of foreign nations 😂
Nah.
He'd say "Not _yet."_
When they revealed his name he should’ve said, “I’m….. bad.”
I got it. Well done!
What
He's ... a peril
Lmao
@@Sa.d.bo26 the not-Gandalf guy says "Im... Good." when he is fighting the 3 witches. It's a stupid line, but at least it would match if Sauron said it.
“Shut up, just shut up. You had me at hello.”
Hahaha xd
LoL 😂
Literally me 😆
Helloooo, is it me you’re looking for? 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
i really like how his eyes turn so detached and dispassionate, with a hint of a distant amusement and derision
Does he, though?
When? Tell me at what point this is happening so I can see what you're talking about, because I read your comment and I'm not seeing it. Or is it just in other video clips besides this one?
@@My_trashtalking_account i don't know, either u perceive it or don't. it's subtle, fleeting feeling on the edges of instict how should i make u see it i wonder?
@@jbear3478 i am honestly helpless if u can't see it, or mbe determined not to see it. truth is, i am very biased against this show, but the acting of this actor did draw me in. it's a very subtle feeling, rather ephemeral, i have no proof at all sorry.
@@ghexaier how many seconds into the video specifically does the actor pull this off?
I do like this scene though the way Sauron tells her the truth he hasn’t been manipulating her everything she did she did in her own agency.
Maybe she thought she was helping someone with a righteous cause?
@@aminiqbal4907 Not like he constantly told her he wasn't such a person
@@Phantom19913 yeah I dont know I'd have to rewatch the episodes, catch nuances, etc. But he is a faithless heathen, pretty hard to miss.
@@aminiqbal4907 - Except, Halbrand told Galadriel, that he was not a good person. She created this persona of him being the exiled King of the Southlands and used it to manipulate everyone in Numenor.
@@ChienaAvtzon well she obviously knew where Sauron would settle or was planning on to settle, so giving the people of that realm their king back would help them withstand him and likely with the aid of the elves if she returned back to middle earth.
Sauron really was like “oh you caught me. Let’s get married now” 😂
😂👏
It's pretty relatable
The moment Halbrand became Heisenberg
"You are goddamn right!"
The showrunners are actually planning to turn him into Heisenberg.
"i AM the danger. I am the one who KNOCKS."
@@susiem.2068 no no no "i am the ONE who RINGS"
@@planetofthegames2843 😂 you're goddam ryt
Then Elrond showed up and Galadriel yelled, ' what's his power level?'
Elrond screamed 'over 9000!' Then crushed his scouter.
Does that make Bilbo Krillin?
I knew it was sauron but the actor is good making himself look good but mischievus at the same time
Tbh I really wasn't sure. I kept thinking that literally anyone could be Sauron given that he is a shape shifter.
@@MrLee-cy1pw people who know well the lore ahve spot it quite easilly, but for others, who only know what was shown in the movie, they know very little about Sauron
@@MrLee-cy1pw I got a bridge to sell you I take gift cards
I’d probably fail and would have joined him. Damn that pretty face!
You would be an easy target to Ted Bundy
Nooooo this is how he tricks you
You fool
YES. Someone who agrees
If you saw tge rest of the scene. Galadriel was clearly tempted
Ur name says something else but ur writing suggest ur a female
"I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence. In that time, I have had many names." Man, I love that line, and his delivery is great
“Is it possible to learn this power?”
“Not from a Sauron.”
You can see Galadriel’s heart is broken
Of course my guy weather she liked it or not she was falling for him
What are you talking about? How can her heart be broken if she has no heart at all? She condemned her own people to die just because of her will to go forward, remember?
she’s a strong independent woman who cuts the dark lord himself off every time he tries to speak. there is nothing about her that can be broken 😂😂😂
You can?
hot dude bad? oh noes 😱
“I’m… kind of a big Sauron around here.”
Why sauron is so handsome in human shape😭
Sauron had many forms throughout his existence. The most beautiful of them was called Annatar, which was angel-like in appearance.
"What is this some kind of Lord of the Rings?"
"I've Been Awake Since The Breaking Of The First Silence, In That Time, I've Gone By Many Names" Sauron is a Maiar, he has nothing to prove, nothing to boast, no need to impress. Just a sly intellect that this line perfectly embodies.
Maia = singular
Maiar = plural
If he has nothing to prove why even waste the breath to say that lol
@@joshpearson3606well his not just gonna stand there like a dumb c*nt either lol.
We all knew this reveal was coming, but I love how Galadriel tries to put it on him as if it was his idea to come to middle earth when all along was her trying to manipulate everybody else to come to middle earth. Even after the reveal you’re still rooting for Sauron.
Sauron placed himself there. A random raft just happened to have sauron on it? Come on
@@johng9095 I like to think he was thrown out of Valinor as Annatar and ended up there.
@@MahoneyBadger In the book, he humbled himself before Eönwë, the herald of Manwë, who told him to go to Valinor to receive the Elder King's judgement. He instead hid in Middle-earth. Assuming they are keeping this much of the books true in the context of the show, he probably did put himself on that ship.
@@XJ0461C not safe to assume based on Amazon’s decisions so far, but a man can hope.
@@johng9095 he could have also been trying to make it to Numeanor and his ship got destroyed. This scene is kind of poignant because it feels like maybe he had plans but instead he just followed Galadriel around to see what would happen.
The way he changed his behavior from Halbrand we saw to the clever Dark lord we know. They don't call him Sauron the deceiver/shapeshifter for nothing lol
Her level of denial when he tells her who he really is reminds me of my son the day I came clean about Santa Claus.
YOU’RE Santa Clause???!!!
@@MrBiggles53 Shhhh...😉
@@meganrhode88 "No...NOOO!"
"I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence"
In that time....
*I have had many names.*
🔥👁🔥
What does that mean though? 🤔
@@apy1985 it means he old AF
And its a shame that lotr is a piece of shit that we have a one side that is good and a bad side and good side always win🤡
@@apy1985 that our guy has been pulling all nighters since the creation of the world
"So what's your idea for a LOTR show?"
"Make Sauron a real yummy hubby type dude but it's really dramatic. Coz he's actually Sauron."
"Here's $800 million."
😂
her turned on the subtle evil glare nicely in this scene and she turned on the horrified disturbed face just as well
"Galadriel, do you ever dream about just being like a giant all powerful eye?"
Who knew Sauron has the good looks, appeal, wit and power. No wonder Galadriel can’t find Sauron bc he’s under her very own nose. 😂😂😂
Same with Gandalf, the ring was under his very nose the whole time!
There is nothing more classic then a big bad menace youve heard about and just imagined the most awful things of to reveal themselves and they actually be handsome/beautiful and extremely charming.
In the books his "fair form" is called Annatar who called himself the "lord of gifts" but if they did that in the series it would've been an easy giveaway.. I became 100% certain when he said to Celebrimbor "call it a gift" that he was sauron
This is the part I don't get: the series opened with her search for Sauron and she almost literally went to the edge of the world. So how the fuck she was looking for something that can't even recognise when she finds it?)
@@patrikbodro4717 Clearly she was
clueless on what Sauron looks like. She was expecting a hideous creature like 🐗Adar but little did she know Sauron can change his features.
So freaking funny. I don't think he ever lied to her haha. It was just her constnatly dragging him along n putting him in situations that led to this. Anytime he told her the truth she just ignored it haha. Spectular writing 😆
That's called manipulation
@@MrLee-cy1pw exactly. he is so manipulative that he makes people believe that the idea was initially hers and not his.
I like how the music themes for Halbrand and Sauron are merged in this scene!
(Right after he says “I've been awake since before the breaking of the first silence”...)
i didnt notice it but now that I do its really Cool
I dont know why but this scene is one of the most sexiest scenes. He is confident, powerfull and manipulative. Like a hot devil.
"it's me. Hi. I'm the problem it's me " 🤔🤪
He was my favorite character, only because everyone else was fairly unlikeable. Galadriel was insufferable, and I’m glad Sauron came out and said “I never said I was king. That was you. And fighting in the south,ands, that was your idea, too. And I’m way older than you.” Then he turns aside her knife like it’s nothing.
In this lotr i support sauron.
He just wants to bring peace to his New Empire!
@@ericcook8254 his allegiance is to republic, to DEMOCRACY
@@unknown9zz0 You turned Galadriel against me !!!
@@jerrinjos3593 YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF
@@unknown9zz0 IF YOU'RE NOT WITH ME, THEN YOU'RE MY ENEMY
This is the moment Halbrand became Sauronsenberg. Bravo, Amazon.
"You're Sauron!"
"You're goddamn right."
lmao
@@adamheywood113 LOL
Sauron lives....
BECAUSE OF YOU!
Galadriel: And you are just another mistake that I have to correct.
Stevie Wonder called me up and told me he saw this coming.
I’m surprised this comment doesn’t have more likes
The actor for Sauron is pretty good, the way his eyes kind of go blank / get this “faraway stare” look when he stops pretending to be human, you can almost get the notion that he’s a spiritual being speaking through a fana just from his facial change.
yeah I noticed his eyes too, that was impressive. too bad a good actor is wasted on a shit script
Are we watching the same clip
Finally, some positive feedback instead of just "haha show bad, so I can only say hateful things"
@@BierBart12 This disgraceful gathering of people, thinking those copy & paste anti-woke brainfarts they're all posting here stuck on a repeat show how "gifted" they are is fittingly:
fun to watch
just like the show
The only actor who left an impression, this was almost worth trudging through the halfling ans Numenor nonsense
This was the biggest plot twist I had in a while.
He’s telling her his name without telling her and now she remembers who he is and she’s scared. He’s really good
Actually, he hasn't lied. And he likes her, as well as she also likes him. Strong vibes and tension between them.
Unfortunately he did lie and used galadriel. Sauron has a mind of "cogs and wheels" as Tolkien puts it, he uses emotion to get what he wants, but there's not a shred of empathy there
Hell no
He is in a human form and probably humanising is something that is happened with him. Remember what Galadriel said at the beginning - nobody is born evil or something like that. Direct reference to Sauron.
That is disturbing af
@@irinabush1383 very true he wasn't he was coerced by Melkor (morgoth), but even Tolkien said the evil and malice In sauron was much greater than his masters, he had zero empathy and emotion towards others. It was a ruse to sway galadriel not to tell the others who he is, he failed and fled
Lord Sauron so powerful he put her in her pyjamas with a single push.
What a plot twist... Never saw it coming, this is brilliant... Nobody smeeeeeeeeelled what Sauron was cooking
His character is written and played so well
He never once lied to Galadriel about who he was and what he had done but always kept it vague and unrevealing
i mean in context of you being ashamed of your past and the chaotic commotion that will create when people learn you are the big bad dark lord, it is reasonable to just said i am an evil person that shouldn't be worthy of kingship and should be left alone to repent my sins in a dark corner of some remote island without explaining more
I think it is interesting that it isnt clear at what point he decided to conquer middle earth, was he planning on subverting numenor if she left him there? Was he genuinely trying to live the quiet life?
Did she inspire him to take up the mantle of dark lord after he had retired or was he always trying to get her to put him in power?
So many possibilities.
This show actually has me rooting for Sauron.
I'll never forget the part where Sauron looks directly at the camera, gives a cheeky smile and says 'It's Sauron time' and just has a big laugh about it
This was so awesome and instantly made this show soooo much better! Just amazing and his acting was spot on! Awake before the breaking of the first silence.
Halbrand: “what’s my name?!”
Galadriel: “Sau….”
Halbrand: “IT DOESNT MATTER!”
Introverts be like: I’ve been awake since before the first break silence
Whatever everyone say about the show,
Halbrand actor did a really cool job
“I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence”- cold ass way to say ‘I’m old af’
We all knew it was Sauron but I loved how all of this was her doing she was the one that convinced the armies to come, she was the one that vouched for the crown, she was the one that saved him during the battle and she was the one that brought him to the elves. He really was just her pawn the entire time
Or did he look just let her think she was doing all that for him? for example, when he was injured, seemingly on the point of death, and Galadriel rode him to the elves, was he truly on death's door, or was this all part of his plan??
You see that's what I can't seem to reconcile.
if A) Halbrandt/Sauron was out in the middle of the ocean purposely to run into Galadriel and start this sequence of events.
or
B) was he truly Fed Up of all the evil he had done, and being honest the whole time, and Galadriel actually brought the lust for power and domination back out of him??
@@Daveyboy_RS3 he was hoping to go to Nuemoer to corrupt the people there because he will later do that. That's why he want to stay so badly that what his original plan but now the people there distaste for elves have been cemented which was his unintentional bonus, his two great foes will probably not get together and will be ripe for corruption down the road.
@@Daveyboy_RS3 I think he was out in the ocean trying to make his way to Numeanor and just happened to run into her. Then whatever plans he had he folded on and just let her do her thing to see where it would go. It’s not like time is an issue for him. He opted for patience where as Galadriel has none
Say what you will about the show. But this scene right here to me was incredible. He’s such a great actor!
I fucking love this show. This scene was a great payoff. He is the perfect depiction of Sauron.
@@MrLee-cy1pw read the books… 😩 This is like pissing om Tolkiens grave..
@@user-bz4ys4hp6z I have read the books, and this show follows the lore pretty well. You're just a bitter person with darkness in your heart. Lighten up.
@@MrLee-cy1pw ”follows the lore pretty well” Dear god… you clearly haven’t read anything. 😄
@@user-bz4ys4hp6z your empty statements mean nothing to me. You're just a troll who's never seen a single episode of this show.
I would have said yes to be this Sauron's queen lol
For real dude, and she could have binded him to the light like he said and galadriel could've redeemed him... He seemed sincere when they were talking on the boat
@@benjaminZ20 hehehe I like seeing Sauron titled literally as "the deciever" trick the audience into thinking he's good
@@benjaminZ20 the great deceiver seemed sincere ? .... Hmmm okay
@@benjaminZ20 he is lying ? She never be able to turn him to light ? But she could fall with him into darkness ?
@@dariasavina1056 i don't think she could turn him to the light. but i don't think he could turn her to the dark either. They would have been somewhere in between i think.
According to the books sauron or mairon
Was a maiar. And a pupil of aulë. The valar(god/archangel) that created the dwarfs. This is why sauron is such a good smith.
The thing is sauron wanted to seek order in the chaos. And morgoth promised this.
But he obviously got deceived.
He would be not good nor bad i think.
That a charscter named "Helbrand" (?) or something comes from "Hell" ("Hölle") and "brand" ("fire") is of course only for a very few people a really big surprise....
I loved when Sauron killed Voldemort after getting all the infinity stones.
My whole theater stood and cheered
And the way the Death Star destroyed the Halo ring was nothing short of amazing. Truly the chef’s kiss, and the SOUND of that explosion!!! Priceless!
The actor did a great job 👍 The Hall brand/Sauron character looks fresh and geniune.
The best Jarred Leto role ever.
If only Galadriel would have read the Appendices to the Lord of the Rings.
Galadriel needs to read a history book
This was one of the best scenes in the series.
literally the best scene !
The bar is not high...
You have not seen what I have seen
a shame
Which is saying absolutely nothing
My jaw was on the floor when Sauron said "I am vengeance, I am the night... I AM SAURON" then turned into a giant flaming eye and Sauron'd everyone.
Truly a Rings of Power moment.
I too literally balled when Isildur turned said to Galadriel, "Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me. Aren't you?" So stunning, so brave!
It's Sauron time
This it what we could have had but we got this shit instead
She looks gorgeous in this character....as Kate Blanchett was in LOTR
It's funny that everybody is like 'im rooting for Sauron at this point' or 'he is so much more likeable than xyz'. Well yes. That's actually the point and it does show that the series did a good job after all. Read the Silmarillion guys. He was fair, beautiful, charming, smart, convincing, deceitful and manipulating with words of kindness and wisdom while many Elves (of middle earth, not valinor) were fighting, proud, selfish and even cruel in that age...
This series did just about the worst possible job, making him an actual decent guy instead of a deceiver, and dumbing down Galadriel beyond repair. The story is so far from what Tolkien wrote at this point that it’s unfixable, and all for the sake of some dumb modern TV mystery box writing that everyone figured out by episode 1.
That's exactly why they did a bad job. A great villain is supposed to be someone you root AGAINST, whether they're likeable or not.
They also made the MC an insufferable prick which adds more salt to the wound.
no you didnt get it. the whole color of the plot was women and people of color representing good and the ultimate villain is a straight white male. it was too obvious what they were going for and did the exact opposite of what they intended. they fired their writers for a reason. there is a reason this show is a flop. the tolkien fandom already knew they would ruin Tolkiens legacy way before the show was officially released and they were right.
It's sad how many people don't understand how good the show actually was with its lore-based plot twists and new but fitting characters
@@marleyen That is entirely subjective.