So grateful to Paul for alerting me to your channel! This is so up my (Roman) street. I just love ancient routes. Especially the prehistoric stuff. But what a marvellous channel. This is the sort of stuff that justifies UA-cam's existence. People just sharing their love of a subject and their wonderfully niche knowledge.
An interesting discussion! The word "sanguine" is interestingly close to "sangfroid" - both of course share some etymology (sang meaning blood) and have ended up with similar meanings - being upbeat in the face of something negative - but the route they took to get to the modern meanings is quite different; almost contradictory. The word "sanguine" feels akin to the way my Grandmother would tell me as a child I had rosy cheeks because I'd been outdoors and doing exercise. Whereas "sangfroid" is literally cold blooded, as in maintaining your composure and not losing your temper.
I think its good to be sanguin about most things but especially so when we can be proved wrong because thats when something new can be learned. Nice to see Paul on the vlog :)
Have you looked around Cold Kitchen hill near Kingston Deverill in Wiltshire?, there is a Roman road and temple, and its one of the possible routes for King Alfreds march to the battle of Ethundun. I would be interested to know about the name of the hill, and whether it predates Anglo Saxon and Roman, as it may be Celtic even. Interesting video's as usual, many thanks for your time and effort :)
I found 4 types of Roman roads : 2:00 1. via Romana meaning "Roman way", the most common roads were about 3.5 m wide, which allowed two cars to pass each other, built mainly for commercial and military purposes. 2. actus, a local road, 1, 20 m wide. Used to drive cattle out. 3. iter, a pedestrian and horse path, 60 cm wide. 4. semita, 30 cm wide-field path.
There are no antiquarians. Antiquarians used to wander around the countryside telling lies about our past. We have our tongue firmly in our cheeks. There are amateur archaeologists but I prefer not to kneel before the academic gatekeepers of lore, the bad ones anyway. There is a society of antiquarians but I suspect they are archaeologists who are so conservative they won't change the name of their venerable society
And it really seemed to fit the charter description - time to be sanguine, and possibly a little melancholic! Are you happy the road and stream are those referenced in the boundary charter - or are you doubting that too?
Yeah, I'm probably less cynical about Hooper's Hypothesis (definitely not a Theory) than I sound. As a rule of thumb its okay ... as long as everybody understands its a rule of thumb and that nobody's thumb is the same size. It is a bell curve in terms of its accuracy. Its less accurate the more ancient or the more modern the hedge, as I think you discovered with that hollow way, which is obviously at least medieval. The 'Four Humours' is more than just an ancient pre-scientific method of determining psychological state. Largely is was physically diagnostic, eg You're full of the cold, so you can't be arsed doing anything and you lie about on the sofa, you're phlegmatic ... you're coughing up phlegm and blowing your nose ... so you need hot drinks and to sit by the fire, the 'cure' is choleric because it's the direct opposite, or a course of leeches. If you've just finished a marathon you're sweating and your blood is pumping you need a wee lie down and a rest .... or a course of leeches😖 It does make sense ... as a rule of thumb.
Hmm, how long does it take to create a holloway? If the lane is simply a road diversion/result of the 17th-18th C enclosures (as the hedge species diversity would perhaps indicate) has enough time passed to account for its depth?
I’ve only just found your channel and subscribed after watching this. You answered a lot of my questions about the Roman roads and why roads take such weird curves for (seemingly) no reason and so much more. I loved listening to you both … and now I can binge watch everything I’ve missed. I just wanted to thank you for making these videos so that we can listen in.
Just found your channel through several other channels. I'm not sure which end of the channel to start at so started with the Roman videos. I am curious about something and I wondered if you might know the answer to a question about the origin of a place name in Hereford called Bobblestock. Just seems like an odd name that must have been corrupted from the original maybe? My father in law used to live there. Anything I find online mentions Romans but not a lot more besides that. I looked through your videos to see if you had done any on Hereford.
Neither Ekwall nor the English Place Name Survey mention it. My opinion, for what it’s worth and that is not a great amount, there is an Old English name called Bubba but that doesn’t explain the l in the place name. What could explain that is that there is a diminutive of -el for many names (a bit like calling Mr Smith Smithy) which could give ‘staked enclosure of Bubbel’. But this is informed guesswork. We need to see the oldest possible records (ie 12th Century or older) for the village. The local council may have copies of those in their record office.
If it is roman,wouldn’t there be a recognisable road construction type a few feat down...a small trenching type tool/spade and neatly dug easily refillable hole could be dug in under an hour to sample,cut and lift the turf top and replace,2 hours and you may find something evidentiary..
if i got this right 1. Sanguine. The people who have red blood are friendly. They joke and laugh about their bodies, and they are rose-tinted, slightly red, and have pretty skin. 2. Choleric. The people who have yellow bile are bitter, short tempered, and daring. They appear greenish and have yellow skin. 3. Melancholy .The people who are composed of black bile are lazy, fearful, and sickly. They have black hair and black eyes. 4. Phlegmatic. Those who have phlegm are low spirited, forgetful, and have white hair. so far we've got Fox leaning 1 and Paul plumping for 3. Are we aware of any forgetful, white haired youtube antiquarians so i can tick off 4
Yeah, i got some of that from my research but the plain fact is none of these philosophers agreed on everything. I’m suspicious of too neat explanations. I think of myself as melancholic because I see very sad things and I know nothing can be done about the way of the world. But you can see me on my videos being bossy which is choleric. And then I am entirely accepting that there is good and evil, left and right, tolerant and intolerant, respectful and the unboundaried and I am philosophical about all of them which makes me phlegmatic. You will see me wandering around with a gormless smile on my face because I am sanguine. I think we are all all of them. However … I have categorised the four of us but I am ot going to tell you what they because all of them have negatives and it could be insulting. But, I think I am the choleric one.
@@AllotmentFox I have certainly been accused of being Phlegmatic by colleagues. My hair is remarkably white, if that's any proof of humour. Our brains forget things to make room for acquiring knowledge, so not so much forgetful, but eternally curious to learn more.
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So grateful to Paul for alerting me to your channel! This is so up my (Roman) street. I just love ancient routes. Especially the prehistoric stuff. But what a marvellous channel. This is the sort of stuff that justifies UA-cam's existence. People just sharing their love of a subject and their wonderfully niche knowledge.
Really enjoyed a multitude of philosophical natter on this trip, add that to ditch and hedge diving... whats not to love.
Came here from Paul's channel. Great stuff, guys. I subscribed right away.
A really great video of two eccentric but clever Englishman debating history, philosophy and language whilst exploring our beautiful land. Well done
Found your channel via Paul Whitewick.
Love your stuff - instant sub.
Just Sat Smiling at the Conversation 😂 🤓👍🎉
Love the double act. You need to do more like this.
A lot of fun for sure.
Thank you ‘alot Allot Fox & Paul.
New subscriber from the collab reference. Bring on the lidar!
You want more Lidar +cracks knuckles+ I shall see what I can do
I predict with myself now having subscribed the number will rapidly climb! This is an excellent channel right up my streata !
For what it's worth, there is a Harepath Farm at Burbage, south of Marlborough .
A really fantastic video, great old English words, you both work brilliantly together. We were so pleased another video of yours popped up.
Very familiar. Grew up in Coombe Lane and went to village school in Enford in the '70's. Great times. 😀
Fascinating subject, great work.
An interesting discussion!
The word "sanguine" is interestingly close to "sangfroid" - both of course share some etymology (sang meaning blood) and have ended up with similar meanings - being upbeat in the face of something negative - but the route they took to get to the modern meanings is quite different; almost contradictory. The word "sanguine" feels akin to the way my Grandmother would tell me as a child I had rosy cheeks because I'd been outdoors and doing exercise. Whereas "sangfroid" is literally cold blooded, as in maintaining your composure and not losing your temper.
I think its good to be sanguin about most things but especially so when we can be proved wrong because thats when something new can be learned. Nice to see Paul on the vlog :)
I am jealous of the Sanguin trait!
Have you looked around Cold Kitchen hill near Kingston Deverill in Wiltshire?, there is a Roman road and temple, and its one of the possible routes for King Alfreds march to the battle of Ethundun. I would be interested to know about the name of the hill, and whether it predates Anglo Saxon and Roman, as it may be Celtic even. Interesting video's as usual, many thanks for your time and effort :)
I found 4 types of Roman roads : 2:00
1. via Romana meaning "Roman way", the most common roads were about 3.5 m wide, which allowed two cars to pass each other, built mainly for commercial and military purposes.
2. actus, a local road, 1, 20 m wide. Used to drive cattle out.
3. iter, a pedestrian and horse path, 60 cm wide.
4. semita, 30 cm wide-field path.
Sanguine, according to Cambridge Dictionary (of someone or someone's character) positive and hoping for good things:
This is getting me interested in this antiquarian stuff.
There are no antiquarians. Antiquarians used to wander around the countryside telling lies about our past. We have our tongue firmly in our cheeks. There are amateur archaeologists but I prefer not to kneel before the academic gatekeepers of lore, the bad ones anyway. There is a society of antiquarians but I suspect they are archaeologists who are so conservative they won't change the name of their venerable society
Brilliant yet again
I am very sanguine today, great video, thanks
And it really seemed to fit the charter description - time to be sanguine, and possibly a little melancholic!
Are you happy the road and stream are those referenced in the boundary charter - or are you doubting that too?
I could have, of course , have the map upside down
Great!!! Goooo Paul!!!
Yeah, I'm probably less cynical about Hooper's Hypothesis (definitely not a Theory) than I sound. As a rule of thumb its okay ... as long as everybody understands its a rule of thumb and that nobody's thumb is the same size. It is a bell curve in terms of its accuracy. Its less accurate the more ancient or the more modern the hedge, as I think you discovered with that hollow way, which is obviously at least medieval.
The 'Four Humours' is more than just an ancient pre-scientific method of determining psychological state. Largely is was physically diagnostic, eg You're full of the cold, so you can't be arsed doing anything and you lie about on the sofa, you're phlegmatic ... you're coughing up phlegm and blowing your nose ... so you need hot drinks and to sit by the fire, the 'cure' is choleric because it's the direct opposite, or a course of leeches. If you've just finished a marathon you're sweating and your blood is pumping you need a wee lie down and a rest .... or a course of leeches😖
It does make sense ... as a rule of thumb.
Hmm, how long does it take to create a holloway? If the lane is simply a road diversion/result of the 17th-18th C enclosures (as the hedge species diversity would perhaps indicate) has enough time passed to account for its depth?
Have a friend in Coombe nr Enford has a Roman lead coffin in his garden, found in a chalk pit nr by.
Please put me in touch, I would be overjoyed to cover it on UA-cam
Wow!
@@pwhitewick Very Roman area. I wish I knew why they chose where they did
I’ve only just found your channel and subscribed after watching this. You answered a lot of my questions about the Roman roads and why roads take such weird curves for (seemingly) no reason and so much more. I loved listening to you both … and now I can binge watch everything I’ve missed. I just wanted to thank you for making these videos so that we can listen in.
A match made in heaven!
Just found your channel through several other channels. I'm not sure which end of the channel to start at so started with the Roman videos. I am curious about something and I wondered if you might know the answer to a question about the origin of a place name in Hereford called Bobblestock. Just seems like an odd name that must have been corrupted from the original maybe? My father in law used to live there. Anything I find online mentions Romans but not a lot more besides that. I looked through your videos to see if you had done any on Hereford.
Neither Ekwall nor the English Place Name Survey mention it. My opinion, for what it’s worth and that is not a great amount, there is an Old English name called Bubba but that doesn’t explain the l in the place name. What could explain that is that there is a diminutive of -el for many names (a bit like calling Mr Smith Smithy) which could give ‘staked enclosure of Bubbel’. But this is informed guesswork. We need to see the oldest possible records (ie 12th Century or older) for the village. The local council may have copies of those in their record office.
@@AllotmentFox thank you 😊
If it is roman,wouldn’t there be a recognisable road construction type a few feat down...a small trenching type tool/spade and neatly dug easily refillable hole could be dug in under an hour to sample,cut and lift the turf top and replace,2 hours and you may find something evidentiary..
Melon Cauly... fruit n veg.
if i got this right
1. Sanguine. The people who have red blood are friendly. They joke and laugh about their bodies, and they are rose-tinted, slightly red, and have pretty skin.
2. Choleric. The people who have yellow bile are bitter, short tempered, and daring. They appear greenish and have yellow skin.
3. Melancholy .The people who are composed of black bile are lazy, fearful, and sickly. They have black hair and black eyes.
4. Phlegmatic. Those who have phlegm are low spirited, forgetful, and have white hair.
so far we've got Fox leaning 1 and Paul plumping for 3. Are we aware of any forgetful, white haired youtube antiquarians so i can tick off 4
Yeah, i got some of that from my research but the plain fact is none of these philosophers agreed on everything. I’m suspicious of too neat explanations. I think of myself as melancholic because I see very sad things and I know nothing can be done about the way of the world. But you can see me on my videos being bossy which is choleric. And then I am entirely accepting that there is good and evil, left and right, tolerant and intolerant, respectful and the unboundaried and I am philosophical about all of them which makes me phlegmatic. You will see me wandering around with a gormless smile on my face because I am sanguine. I think we are all all of them.
However …
I have categorised the four of us but I am ot going to tell you what they because all of them have negatives and it could be insulting. But, I think I am the choleric one.
@@AllotmentFox I have certainly been accused of being Phlegmatic by colleagues. My hair is remarkably white, if that's any proof of humour. Our brains forget things to make room for acquiring knowledge, so not so much forgetful, but eternally curious to learn more.