Helping the level 3s when you’re on level 4. That‘s gonna activate altruism! Having mercy on those who are stuck in places that you spent *a lot of energy* getting out of! Not only does it restrain an otherwise egotistical pursuit of success that is selfish and empty, but it also forces you to have compassion and respect for where you’ve come from, which then grows a desire for helping the other people struggling back there because you‘re engaging in empathy with them. This is a hugely challenging concept for me! My current belief is that I’m always at rock bottom. No matter how far I progress, I don’t honour the journey I’ve made, because I fear it will make me complacent with the current level. The result? Constant discouragement. I grow bitter, angry, resentful, and jealous of anyone who are on higher levels than me. It makes me intolerant, cruel, and impatient to those on lower levels. Confidence is unable to take root. I become a perpetual victim, fixed in self-pity and despair... Helping out the kids for free, it sounds like it’s both the remedy, and ultimately the goal, of growth. Thanks for this lesson 🔥🔥🔥
When talking about responsibility, I always avoid it because when I failed someone and couldn't keep it up to their believe I felt like I don't deserve anything and I should be punished. It creates scar on my body. - Entj
Sounds like all the benefits one gets from practicing religion, one of the reasons I still do. People don’t understand it but it helped this maturing ENTP, so that’s something.
Never figured ENTP to be the inclined towards religion on much of any level. Still, if not for one reason then another - if it gives your house a foundation, why quit?
I prefer white myself. It's a clean slate, often symbolic of order, and if I'm going to have dominion over my world, I may as well start at the center of it all.
I volunteered as a youth group leader and later a worship leader for my church for years, and it was a lot of fun and helped me learn a lot about people and leadership. It's interesting now having to step back from all that because I have a young child, and all of my energy and time goes into raising him. My biggest struggle in this season is still feeling like I'm valuable and contributing to society when I'm not getting that external confirmation from work or from the people I'm helping. Geez, I never realised how much my sense of self worth came from the validation of others and being seen as a "good person".
Collecting humans to emulate. ;) I *would* say I've been doing that since childhood. But when you talked about the internal changing your picture of who you are and starting to want to be an adult, it strikes me I've been (somewhat annoyingly; perhaps Hermione-ishly) doing that since I was a child. So many of my adult friends want me to 'let loose' and I am in comparison this rigid monster who goes to bed way too early. 'Just one late night!' 'One night turns into many nights, and lack of sleep accumulates.' (I still stay up too late plenty, though.)
Turns out Dave that 'Doing what you want to do' is "Following your bliss"- Joseph Campbell. This will lead you in the direction of your purpose for deciding to incarnate.
How do I get over the stupid feeling that “no one wants me around, to mentor me.” And then burying myself in self-pity? I know it’s a stupid feeling/thought - it’s probably not true even half of the time. Just wondering how others might have faced it and dealt with it
Sorry this is a year late. This isn’t necessarily the helpful answer, and I don’t know if I’m in the place to give that kind of helpful answer anyway. But I will chime in here and add that something that I always vowed as a kid when I felt similarly to you was to remember that feeling. I never wanted to become the adult who looked down on young kids and teenagers for being at a lower point than myself, since I noticed the pattern was that kids grew into adults and adults ended up thinking all kids were stupid and hard to see eye to eye with. As I’m getting older, I’m realizing this view doesn’t just exist with adults concerning young kids- in general, it’s easy to look down on anyone lower than ourselves (whatever that means to us) at any stage of life. So I don’t know how to really fix your situation, but please, never forget it. Always remember the pain of how it feels to be hopeless and to think that no one wants to come alongside you and teach you. Because time goes on, and you may see that help comes and then you get more sure of yourself and your position. And after that, you may come across other people who are feeling the exact way you are now. Then, knowing how it feels, you’ll have the opportunity to come alongside them and help them to learn and grow instead of making them feel stupid for being at the point they’re at in life.
@@condotiero860Fi: felt like doing it, so I taught myself. My ISTP friend (whos a chad) has had mentors all his life, and me nobody. I know how to play the guitar, drums, piano, produce, and sing. This guy can only the play drums and read music. Ti users do seem to be more of the "mastery" searchers...
I'm currently interning (not paid) for my vet school application. My approach to gaining skills is more holistic, so I tend to jump from place-to-place, seeing how different locations operate and what the culture is like. I also have a lot of family obligations and work full-time, so I don't always go in. When mentors don't want to teach, it's hard. It can be very awkward and difficult to navigate the atmosphere and learn skills as a newbie in a professional setting. Also, if they don't think you're dedicated because of taking time off, it can affect your letters of recommendation. This is how I've made peace with it so far: Not everyone will take time to understand you, or get to know you or your personal struggles. It doesn't necessarily mean you're doing anything "wrong." Yeah I get that petty feeling too, but I'm using it to succeed and help others like me. I'm moving out soon and going to start my life. Set the standard for what you want to see. If you feel like you were never given the chance, then be there for those who need you after you are successful.
Just remember to balance your observers in the process. If you're an IxxJ, remember that other people WANT to be in charge, too, and that responsible De gives them that opportunity. Don't be that person who visits their relatives, who they haven't seen in a while, and then does all the cooking for them. It makes them feel taken over. And, trying to run the whole office in a demon Oe state, while admirable for De, will most likely just get you fired.
I suggest getting a job at a restaurant in your busy downtown area. That will certainly give you a broader perspective, you will see an entire city summarized every Friday night.
Would like to have heard more about the dark side of taking responsibility. It is good to take responsibility for ones self, but to take responsibility for others (adults) can easily lead to the desire to take control; as responsibility without control is a recipe for stress. Not sure I buy in to Jordan's take maximum responsibility. Maybe take maximum responsibility for yourself and those that want it taking for them or are not in a position to do so themselves.
Pls somebody make this clear for me. Do I actually have to value my top functions? Can it actually be that I am annoyed by them? Or are my top functions the ones which I value the most, even though I dont think I dont have them/or that are not that developed?
I love your videos and watch them out of curiosity. Always a thumb up.:) However, I don't agree with all mtbi trends and obsession and I don't mean to be a party pooper, but here are my thoughts... Why Mtbi is not scientific enough: MTBI test is so weak and SO not perfected that it literally hurts my brain. Sure the functions are a nice concept, but you can be using them all to the fullest. Also, using mtbi as a matching tool, really makes zero sense in human relationships, because it is focused on narrowminded way of pressing a judgement and polarizing personalities, and doesn't take to account that childhood conditioning and psychology. Childhood conditioning or any old subconscious traumas which WE ALL HAVE BTW, and specifically attachment style of any adult PLAYS THE BIGGEST ROLE in how we behave in life, not some mtbi type. For pin pointing personality big 5 makes way more sense because it is not focused on calling it a TYPE or any society polarization, nor matching. Mtbi is fun, but not clean and clear enough to pin point any facts specifically, neither can predict a best match in humans, again it is not even a surface level of psychology or science. WHY is that? Because a truly well rounded person, with all functions on 100%, as well as person with the trauma conditioning or attatchment style which is directly opposite of their big5 personality - is ALWAYS ALWAY ALWAYS mistyped by mtbi.
Paulina Pi they dont rely entirely on mbti, they took the bases that made sense and continue to do their research and create new complex and more extensive ways to understand personalities. i don’t know how many videos of them you have watched. but i suggest you check out the ones about sleep/consume/play/blast typing and male/female typing. they’re new concepts that in my opinion have vastly improved the restrictive and stereotypical mbti typing method.
Agree on sense that MBTI alone is not enough but it is a good start to know yourself and then from your life journey and all things you went through you can realise why you are behaving the way you do and why you make certain choices in life. Our brain can shift between cognitive functions in response to events with one goal is to keep surviving.
The synergy happening between these two is unmatched. Wow.
IKR! so cute
The things I notice when crossed watching this channel.
Helping the level 3s when you’re on level 4. That‘s gonna activate altruism!
Having mercy on those who are stuck in places that you spent *a lot of energy* getting out of!
Not only does it restrain an otherwise egotistical pursuit of success that is selfish and empty, but it also forces you to have compassion and respect for where you’ve come from, which then grows a desire for helping the other people struggling back there because you‘re engaging in empathy with them.
This is a hugely challenging concept for me! My current belief is that I’m always at rock bottom. No matter how far I progress, I don’t honour the journey I’ve made, because I fear it will make me complacent with the current level.
The result? Constant discouragement. I grow bitter, angry, resentful, and jealous of anyone who are on higher levels than me.
It makes me intolerant, cruel, and impatient to those on lower levels.
Confidence is unable to take root.
I become a perpetual victim, fixed in self-pity and despair...
Helping out the kids for free, it sounds like it’s both the remedy, and ultimately the goal, of growth.
Thanks for this lesson 🔥🔥🔥
This! Just THIS!
You guys ARE doing it for us!!
Thanks
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When talking about responsibility, I always avoid it because when I failed someone and couldn't keep it up to their believe I felt like I don't deserve anything and I should be punished. It creates scar on my body.
- Entj
As someone with a Te savior, I wish I could dial this down and just RELAX for once.
Sounds like all the benefits one gets from practicing religion, one of the reasons I still do. People don’t understand it but it helped this maturing ENTP, so that’s something.
SIMPLE REECK what do you mean?
Never figured ENTP to be the inclined towards religion on much of any level. Still, if not for one reason then another - if it gives your house a foundation, why quit?
R A Z A N ....your views on religion and science do not reflect the reality of historical fact and scientific progress
@@AlastorTheNPDemon Everybody can do everything!
@@cirrusm.2829 あっぷ
Haha! “When you screw up, its for free!!”
New black t-shirt after 10 years , all INTJ's see black color as an identity.
i've noticed alot of INFP's also wear black frequently. Seems like a heavy Fi, Fi-Te thing.
@@cattyping2635 not Fi more than Ni dom , but Fi make things even darker though Ni.
lol
I prefer white myself. It's a clean slate, often symbolic of order, and if I'm going to have dominion over my world, I may as well start at the center of it all.
@@AlastorTheNPDemon that why you have black car on your profile picture?
if it's too hard, have someone else do it for you!
my new motto
New?!! Ahaha it was always like that to you lazy girl
SNAKE IX STOP!! dont expose meeeee 😭😭😭
@@PsychologyandChillwMichi 😈
I volunteered as a youth group leader and later a worship leader for my church for years, and it was a lot of fun and helped me learn a lot about people and leadership. It's interesting now having to step back from all that because I have a young child, and all of my energy and time goes into raising him. My biggest struggle in this season is still feeling like I'm valuable and contributing to society when I'm not getting that external confirmation from work or from the people I'm helping.
Geez, I never realised how much my sense of self worth came from the validation of others and being seen as a "good person".
"Just ask someone else to do it." I felt that energy and unconsciously said duh.-ENTJ
"Do they love it?" ooooh wow yes
Collecting humans to emulate. ;) I *would* say I've been doing that since childhood. But when you talked about the internal changing your picture of who you are and starting to want to be an adult, it strikes me I've been (somewhat annoyingly; perhaps Hermione-ishly) doing that since I was a child. So many of my adult friends want me to 'let loose' and I am in comparison this rigid monster who goes to bed way too early. 'Just one late night!' 'One night turns into many nights, and lack of sleep accumulates.' (I still stay up too late plenty, though.)
Trying to walk around with Fe as my crown, drops crown hahaha adulting. I understand where you are coming from though
"There's so many! I have a doc full of people." There's the Te-Se loop.
Turns out Dave that 'Doing what you want to do' is "Following your bliss"- Joseph Campbell. This will lead you in the direction of your purpose for deciding to incarnate.
Very good motivation...gotta do some chores now
I want Shan’s doc of successful people 😂 seriously, not a joke lol
Would you consider sharing your list? Would love to see some of your suggestions!
I second that. Not always I can tell a good example from bad one, because I haven't yet trained to recognize what's good.
to work on my sh*t Te, i try to just do something good for someone good at some point in a day. but just one thing :p
How do I get over the stupid feeling that “no one wants me around, to mentor me.”
And then burying myself in self-pity?
I know it’s a stupid feeling/thought - it’s probably not true even half of the time. Just wondering how others might have faced it and dealt with it
Sorry this is a year late. This isn’t necessarily the helpful answer, and I don’t know if I’m in the place to give that kind of helpful answer anyway.
But I will chime in here and add that something that I always vowed as a kid when I felt similarly to you was to remember that feeling. I never wanted to become the adult who looked down on young kids and teenagers for being at a lower point than myself, since I noticed the pattern was that kids grew into adults and adults ended up thinking all kids were stupid and hard to see eye to eye with. As I’m getting older, I’m realizing this view doesn’t just exist with adults concerning young kids- in general, it’s easy to look down on anyone lower than ourselves (whatever that means to us) at any stage of life.
So I don’t know how to really fix your situation, but please, never forget it. Always remember the pain of how it feels to be hopeless and to think that no one wants to come alongside you and teach you. Because time goes on, and you may see that help comes and then you get more sure of yourself and your position. And after that, you may come across other people who are feeling the exact way you are now. Then, knowing how it feels, you’ll have the opportunity to come alongside them and help them to learn and grow instead of making them feel stupid for being at the point they’re at in life.
Ti: so i taught myself.
@@condotiero860Fi: felt like doing it, so I taught myself.
My ISTP friend (whos a chad) has had mentors all his life, and me nobody. I know how to play the guitar, drums, piano, produce, and sing. This guy can only the play drums and read music.
Ti users do seem to be more of the "mastery" searchers...
I'm currently interning (not paid) for my vet school application. My approach to gaining skills is more holistic, so I tend to jump from place-to-place, seeing how different locations operate and what the culture is like. I also have a lot of family obligations and work full-time, so I don't always go in.
When mentors don't want to teach, it's hard. It can be very awkward and difficult to navigate the atmosphere and learn skills as a newbie in a professional setting. Also, if they don't think you're dedicated because of taking time off, it can affect your letters of recommendation.
This is how I've made peace with it so far: Not everyone will take time to understand you, or get to know you or your personal struggles. It doesn't necessarily mean you're doing anything "wrong."
Yeah I get that petty feeling too, but I'm using it to succeed and help others like me. I'm moving out soon and going to start my life.
Set the standard for what you want to see. If you feel like you were never given the chance, then be there for those who need you after you are successful.
As an INFP I feel attacked
all my parents do is yell at me because i dont do anything, which is true. - INFP
Just remember to balance your observers in the process. If you're an IxxJ, remember that other people WANT to be in charge, too, and that responsible De gives them that opportunity. Don't be that person who visits their relatives, who they haven't seen in a while, and then does all the cooking for them. It makes them feel taken over. And, trying to run the whole office in a demon Oe state, while admirable for De, will most likely just get you fired.
Haha I can relate
Ah. That really sums up trouble I'm having at work. Good comment. Thank you.
I suggest getting a job at a restaurant in your busy downtown area. That will certainly give you a broader perspective, you will see an entire city summarized every Friday night.
Would like to have heard more about the dark side of taking responsibility. It is good to take responsibility for ones self, but to take responsibility for others (adults) can easily lead to the desire to take control; as responsibility without control is a recipe for stress. Not sure I buy in to Jordan's take maximum responsibility. Maybe take maximum responsibility for yourself and those that want it taking for them or are not in a position to do so themselves.
Where is the document she has full of humans to observe/follow? I want this.
Pls somebody make this clear for me. Do I actually have to value my top functions? Can it actually be that I am annoyed by them? Or are my top functions the ones which I value the most, even though I dont think I dont have them/or that are not that developed?
Still on schedule. How responsible 😀
I love your videos and watch them out of curiosity. Always a thumb up.:)
However, I don't agree with all mtbi trends and obsession and I don't mean to be a party pooper, but here are my thoughts...
Why Mtbi is not scientific enough: MTBI test is so weak and SO not perfected that it literally hurts my brain. Sure the functions are a nice concept, but you can be using them all to the fullest.
Also, using mtbi as a matching tool, really makes zero sense in human relationships, because it is focused on narrowminded way of pressing a judgement and polarizing personalities, and doesn't take to account that childhood conditioning and psychology.
Childhood conditioning or any old subconscious traumas which WE ALL HAVE BTW, and specifically attachment style of any adult PLAYS THE BIGGEST ROLE in how we behave in life, not some mtbi type.
For pin pointing personality big 5 makes way more sense because it is not focused on calling it a TYPE or any society polarization, nor matching.
Mtbi is fun, but not clean and clear enough to pin point any facts specifically, neither can predict a best match in humans, again it is not even a surface level of psychology or science.
WHY is that? Because a truly well rounded person, with all functions on 100%, as well as person with the trauma conditioning or attatchment style which is directly opposite of their big5 personality - is ALWAYS ALWAY ALWAYS mistyped by mtbi.
Paulina Pi they dont rely entirely on mbti, they took the bases that made sense and continue to do their research and create new complex and more extensive ways to understand personalities. i don’t know how many videos of them you have watched. but i suggest you check out the ones about sleep/consume/play/blast typing and male/female typing. they’re new concepts that in my opinion have vastly improved the restrictive and stereotypical mbti typing method.
Agree on sense that MBTI alone is not enough but it is a good start to know yourself and then from your life journey and all things you went through you can realise why you are behaving the way you do and why you make certain choices in life. Our brain can shift between cognitive functions in response to events with one goal is to keep surviving.
my Alpha beta theory is that kids singing the song helps them remember the letters. Except elmno, still can't figure out what that one means.
Who else became an adult when they were 10 years old...
That sounds horrible....I guess I'm just not ready for that yet
Dave! address this girl who says she’s in love with you and wants to be your queen. Here she is ⬇️
Here: ua-cam.com/video/wxGIZDZ8CTY/v-deo.html
Adam Hayes watch your damn mouth!