Imo Vigor should be more than 1. If you're not a whale (like ShanB) then he's an amazing water tank with anti-crit buff, heal and 3 turn defense break.
Will carry most teams early and still good late so I would say 1 since you eventually get better 5 star units if you play long enough. He's an early monster that can be used late.
Maxing all the dupe vigor skill is a pain in the ass tho 😂 meanwhile eshir tractor jultan lulu chacha can be used just fine competitively with out skill up 😊
@@مسترعبدالمقصود it's borderline useless without the s3 cdr. Vigor is one of the few 2a's that was nerfed, by taking 1 cd off of his s3. it's also got increased activation rate, which on a multihit is .even more valuable. especially if built on crit rate where getting it on an early hit makes a large difference in his threat. One of the methods done to address carcano/vigor/x comps. alongside the later nerf on carcano passive to 1 turn
Remember when water fairy was the best fire rift beast record mon that does insane damage? Or dark bear for toah? Or fire cat to destroy hp tanks? Good old days I have allthose built in storage
I just returned to this game after seeing the 10-year anniversary event. Now I'm trying to keep up with the changes and I'm sad to see that my baby Megan is in "Nah" tier wtf.
In most cases I agree with the assessment. with very minor tweaks lala and friends - which you have in fun toys. goes up quite a bit outside g3 for pvp. Where a lot of savanah, more nora's etc. exist. kind of like a budget juno. She does everything juno does outside self cleanse and faster turn cycling. but the cleanse is for the entire team rather than just herself. I've found multiple instances where a lala can trivialize an entire defense by nature of the complete team cleanse from a fire slot, while also full healing. Shren - prio on shren changes drastically on whether or not you have multiple hwadam. one shren per hwadam can make for pretty strong offense Vigor/roid - honestly idk if i can agree or disagree here. I haven't played upper g3 in probably 2 seasons, when it was still cichlid in every base. you did mention roids dominance then so my bias comes partially from that perspective of it. and his prio outside g3 is extremely high. Kind of like a loren but better in most scenarios. Especially if you lack a lot of stronger nat 4 offense options or the runes for cleavers. in which case those 2 alongside racuni can carry a lot. but even vigor I used 3-4 per siege in top 8 pretty consistently and they didn't lose for me. but again that was before ciri and I haven't faced any of those at g3, nor will i anytime soon. . Not to mention, harmonia|vigor|roid is a very easy defense to full stack even in a g1 guild with fairly low rune requirements that can do pretty well. As most people you face won't have that many kle's and hard snipes to deal with so many, with all 3 being farmable Thrain - I'd put him in pve or fun toy and not must build. I have mine build and have used him but most of the time he's forgetful. his ToA is pretty bad because of the AI outside of manual, and most of his pvp application outside maybe low g1 is also fairly mediocre. More reliable than bomb teams still, assuming he doesn't fall over too fast. Being dark makes drawing attention off of him difficult. Sath as well should be either pvp or fun build, he's hard to make work without specific fire units for that dot offense. the budget replacements really aren't that great and very squishy.
Seren's (dark Harpu) is pretty good for PvE too, more precisely, for Steel Fortress. I'm using her with the usual suspects Verdehile (Lead) / Wind Kung-Fu girl / Loren / Kro and she's made my team go from 1:10 to 1:25 seconds average time to 0:50 to 1:05 seconds average time. Kung-Fu > Loren > Seren > Kro > Verdehile for the turn order, and it works like a charm. My Seren is on Fatal / Blade with 100% crit rate.
Love Neal. Does some magic in 2v2 and occasionally proves herself in siege. Aeline (wind fairy) can be solid option if you need mix of dmg and heal of wind element especially 4* tower
It's kinda funny that for my most used 2A monsters, SeanB said "Nobody uses this unit" or "Nobody cares about this unit." Some of the "Nah" tier are essential for my siege offense teams(for G1 and G2 siege) and they don't have any replacement...😅
I used both Covenant and Ellena, I use more Covenant because he did better damage, but sometimes against damage dealer who are mostly squichy I prefer using Ellena, because her S3 is better to freeze 2 turn. So, it's a niche monster and mostly a toy, but I like her, fun to use.
I will forever like my girl Xiao Lin (light martial cat). I've had difficulty using her sometimes but she's been a nice counter to Vritra. Arnold, Chloe, Vamp Xiao Lin has been working nicely Mihyang, Cichlid, Vritra
Wind fairy is honestly underrated I used her for lot of stuff as beginner for example giants b12 to make sure he doesnt attack twice in a row (but indeed there are some better wind damage options after progressing)
I made a new account about 3 weeks ago (lost main account and haven’t played in years) and Wind Harpu carried me through early game, so she will always be one of my favorite 2A for nostalgia reasons, even if she’s not as useful after a certain point.
I like the wind werewolf for turn 2 control teams. His base speed is really good. Pair him with light paladin or water Drakan warrior to keep people from disrupting his passive.
Wind harpu is making toah a breeze with a lot of stuns, dots and atb reduction. Idk but by reading the comments I feel like pretty much any 2A unit can have a good use :)
34:50 best unit to solo on auto Kotos (Fire lab boss) with Vamp runes. Also the unit is just a nice unit for safe teams of PC AH team, not just speed teams although one of the speedteams is a bit easier to rune.
I've never tested it out but in theory, Fire cat could be used against Wind Gapsoo (Byungchul), but the problem is the decreased damage based on HP and the fact that I'm not sure if she'll do much damage without setup. Heck, she'll probably get one shot is he moves first cuz it feels like he's guaranteed an extra 2 turns
Me looking at my two fire martial cats in storage 🤡🤡 Tried to use that old setup against skogul, still works but it’s not like we are seeing that left and right anymore 😅
Diaz doesn't have a provoke (like Jubelle has) that is constantly off cooldown because it reduces every time he's hit plus increase to atk bar on non-crits so he cycles faster and also has a def break but it's on his S1 so he can do it anytime you want, but the provoke gives an amount of control because he can't be ignored.
Light fairy (used to use light udine for 3 turn invulnerability) is fun to use with dark beast hunter as it will let him fire his ignore defense attack 3 times in a row.
Jub is quite underrated indeed but the -50% from light make dias pretty insane 😮 Also if you build your team right, you dont need provoke for the tank to work properly
@@mychamycha27 a CC unit would need an actual 'disable' in their kit(eg. sleep/stun) -- "Provoke" is almost exclusively a Tank skill, similar to taunt in most MMORPG. and for that reason, he can be compared to DIAS because they are both usually used to Tank incoming damage from light monsters.
i disagree with dark warbear being meh lol, he is still solid, for some reason for me he is more reliable than spectra lol, also he is really good for those who play ld only accounts
I have built ramagos with over 50k and 105 speed so he's not mega slow, I can't make him work in arena, it's like they know not to hit him until he's the last one standing . It's a gamble and very satisfying when it works
@@jordialougregory9431seems like that's the reason why you can't make him work then 😂 ramagod is really a gw/siege unit you could make an argument for RTa just cant see how you would run him in arena
I actually like using Water Vagabond. I use him for wind nukes. In siege and regular arena. Usually I run him has a brusier and throw in Dark elven ranger. My favorite 2a though is Tractor and Iron is second. I made them both super tanky, Tractor is on Vamp Revenge. Iron is Rage will. I made him tanky and tried to get him to hit hard with 100cr and close to 200cd. Doesn't always work but still fun
Which mons do you think should be 2A asap on first play or new acc? I always do Kro, Raoq, Shamann and Spectra but I don’t know who should I do next after that, on 1 or 2 new acc I made I do Gina and Thrain for TOA normal and hard and Vigor for some PVP guild content after that 4 monsters. What do you guys think?
I have most 5 stars AOE stripers (Tiana, Triton, Zen, K1D, Chiwu) and still use Sillia in arena more than them! I maxed out her second skill and put her in despair, and she aoe strip to def break is soooo good! She is a real budget Eludia!
Unrelated but can someone help me fix my account? Basically I logged out on Steam on China Server (I live in the US) and now I can’t log in to get back to Global server because it keeps asking for my China verification number…
Imo Vigor should be more than 1. If you're not a whale (like ShanB) then he's an amazing water tank with anti-crit buff, heal and 3 turn defense break.
I fuckin agree vigor is insane he got heal heal block good damage to insane buffs and def break and got good base speed bro should get more respect
Will carry most teams early and still good late so I would say 1 since you eventually get better 5 star units if you play long enough. He's an early monster that can be used late.
Maxing all the dupe vigor skill is a pain in the ass tho 😂 meanwhile eshir tractor jultan lulu chacha can be used just fine competitively with out skill up 😊
@@SeanBGames dam you got a point i forgot vigor s3 needs skill ups to lower the cooldown
@@مسترعبدالمقصود it's borderline useless without the s3 cdr. Vigor is one of the few 2a's that was nerfed, by taking 1 cd off of his s3. it's also got increased activation rate, which on a multihit is .even more valuable. especially if built on crit rate where getting it on an early hit makes a large difference in his threat. One of the methods done to address carcano/vigor/x comps. alongside the later nerf on carcano passive to 1 turn
Remember when water fairy was the best fire rift beast record mon that does insane damage? Or dark bear for toah? Or fire cat to destroy hp tanks? Good old days I have allthose built in storage
i think you meant water pixie
@@zaleww5824 I still use her
I just returned to this game after seeing the 10-year anniversary event. Now I'm trying to keep up with the changes and I'm sad to see that my baby Megan is in "Nah" tier wtf.
19:08 Kacey 2A is actually great for fire beast, I use her with Mav, Xiao Lin, Brandia, Kro and Eirgar
As someone doing a 2A only challenge account, this is awesome! Thanks SeanB
In most cases I agree with the assessment. with very minor tweaks
lala and friends - which you have in fun toys. goes up quite a bit outside g3 for pvp. Where a lot of savanah, more nora's etc. exist. kind of like a budget juno. She does everything juno does outside self cleanse and faster turn cycling. but the cleanse is for the entire team rather than just herself. I've found multiple instances where a lala can trivialize an entire defense by nature of the complete team cleanse from a fire slot, while also full healing.
Shren - prio on shren changes drastically on whether or not you have multiple hwadam. one shren per hwadam can make for pretty strong offense
Vigor/roid - honestly idk if i can agree or disagree here. I haven't played upper g3 in probably 2 seasons, when it was still cichlid in every base. you did mention roids dominance then so my bias comes partially from that perspective of it. and his prio outside g3 is extremely high. Kind of like a loren but better in most scenarios. Especially if you lack a lot of stronger nat 4 offense options or the runes for cleavers. in which case those 2 alongside racuni can carry a lot. but even vigor I used 3-4 per siege in top 8 pretty consistently and they didn't lose for me. but again that was before ciri and I haven't faced any of those at g3, nor will i anytime soon. . Not to mention, harmonia|vigor|roid is a very easy defense to full stack even in a g1 guild with fairly low rune requirements that can do pretty well. As most people you face won't have that many kle's and hard snipes to deal with so many, with all 3 being farmable
Thrain - I'd put him in pve or fun toy and not must build. I have mine build and have used him but most of the time he's forgetful. his ToA is pretty bad because of the AI outside of manual, and most of his pvp application outside maybe low g1 is also fairly mediocre. More reliable than bomb teams still, assuming he doesn't fall over too fast. Being dark makes drawing attention off of him difficult. Sath as well should be either pvp or fun build, he's hard to make work without specific fire units for that dot offense. the budget replacements really aren't that great and very squishy.
Seren's (dark Harpu) is pretty good for PvE too, more precisely, for Steel Fortress.
I'm using her with the usual suspects Verdehile (Lead) / Wind Kung-Fu girl / Loren / Kro and she's made my team go from 1:10 to 1:25 seconds average time to 0:50 to 1:05 seconds average time.
Kung-Fu > Loren > Seren > Kro > Verdehile for the turn order, and it works like a charm.
My Seren is on Fatal / Blade with 100% crit rate.
If she has good AI she will instantly be meta for everyone at every level 😢
Love Neal. Does some magic in 2v2 and occasionally proves herself in siege.
Aeline (wind fairy) can be solid option if you need mix of dmg and heal of wind element especially 4* tower
It's kinda funny that for my most used 2A monsters, SeanB said "Nobody uses this unit" or "Nobody cares about this unit." Some of the "Nah" tier are essential for my siege offense teams(for G1 and G2 siege) and they don't have any replacement...😅
I used both Covenant and Ellena, I use more Covenant because he did better damage, but sometimes against damage dealer who are mostly squichy I prefer using Ellena, because her S3 is better to freeze 2 turn.
So, it's a niche monster and mostly a toy, but I like her, fun to use.
2:11 the chat in game lined up with what seanb is saying 😂
I will forever like my girl Xiao Lin (light martial cat). I've had difficulty using her sometimes but she's been a nice counter to Vritra. Arnold, Chloe, Vamp Xiao Lin has been working nicely Mihyang, Cichlid, Vritra
Wind fairy is honestly underrated I used her for lot of stuff as beginner for example giants b12 to make sure he doesnt attack twice in a row (but indeed there are some better wind damage options after progressing)
I made a new account about 3 weeks ago (lost main account and haven’t played in years) and Wind Harpu carried me through early game, so she will always be one of my favorite 2A for nostalgia reasons, even if she’s not as useful after a certain point.
I like the wind werewolf for turn 2 control teams. His base speed is really good. Pair him with light paladin or water Drakan warrior to keep people from disrupting his passive.
Wind harpu is making toah a breeze with a lot of stuns, dots and atb reduction. Idk but by reading the comments I feel like pretty much any 2A unit can have a good use :)
That’s crazy Sean has 2 tractor and he doesn’t use any of them to farm
Farm?
@SeanBGames play on words tractors are used for real life farming but not in the game
@@SeanBGames tractors are irl farming equipment
@@ShortManRobvery good
That glasses analogy was wild u could have just said different occasions I couldn’t imagine glasses for different rooms 😂
34:50 best unit to solo on auto Kotos (Fire lab boss) with Vamp runes. Also the unit is just a nice unit for safe teams of PC AH team, not just speed teams although one of the speedteams is a bit easier to rune.
I've never tested it out but in theory, Fire cat could be used against Wind Gapsoo (Byungchul), but the problem is the decreased damage based on HP and the fact that I'm not sure if she'll do much damage without setup. Heck, she'll probably get one shot is he moves first cuz it feels like he's guaranteed an extra 2 turns
Probably gonna die to all the water eivor before she can do anything 😂
When are we getting the video about the artifact crafting event???
I love the vid man thank you so much!!!
Hemos is surprisingly consistent if you build him tanky for guild content
Oh no, Iron is awesome, I use him in pvp many times. So much fun
My friend uses Moria with Light Drunken Master & Fire String Master to one shot Kinki in siege. Kinda good but needs a setup like this.
Me looking at my two fire martial cats in storage 🤡🤡
Tried to use that old setup against skogul, still works but it’s not like we are seeing that left and right anymore 😅
Diaz doesn't have a provoke (like Jubelle has) that is constantly off cooldown because it reduces every time he's hit plus increase to atk bar on non-crits so he cycles faster and also has a def break but it's on his S1 so he can do it anytime you want, but the provoke gives an amount of control because he can't be ignored.
Light fairy (used to use light udine for 3 turn invulnerability) is fun to use with dark beast hunter as it will let him fire his ignore defense attack 3 times in a row.
Jub is quite underrated indeed but the -50% from light make dias pretty insane 😮
Also if you build your team right, you dont need provoke for the tank to work properly
@@SeanBGameswhy do you even compare him to dias? Hes more of a cc unit than tank
@@mychamycha27 a CC unit would need an actual 'disable' in their kit(eg. sleep/stun) -- "Provoke" is almost exclusively a Tank skill, similar to taunt in most MMORPG.
and for that reason, he can be compared to DIAS because they are both usually used to Tank incoming damage from light monsters.
Now try pvp with nah tier😂
NAH
I’m early game and pulled zeratu and manannan and i run seren with them and it makes rta easy
Thats an oxymoron statement
light pixie paired with wind anubis and blue fairy king is really fun
What does she do
@evelynnleague2232 revive one with all skill ready + 30% chance to revive one more. Its pretty funny to use
i disagree with dark warbear being meh lol, he is still solid, for some reason for me he is more reliable than spectra lol, also he is really good for those who play ld only accounts
I have built ramagos with over 50k and 105 speed so he's not mega slow, I can't make him work in arena, it's like they know not to hit him until he's the last one standing . It's a gamble and very satisfying when it works
Why would you build him for Arena?
@MonkeyDKizu coz
@@jordialougregory9431seems like that's the reason why you can't make him work then 😂 ramagod is really a gw/siege unit you could make an argument for RTa just cant see how you would run him in arena
Ursha can be strong in 4* siege on rage going spd hp hp, he's on one of my most successful defenses!
def still gimmicky though
What's the defense
I actually like using Water Vagabond. I use him for wind nukes. In siege and regular arena. Usually I run him has a brusier and throw in Dark elven ranger.
My favorite 2a though is Tractor and Iron is second. I made them both super tanky, Tractor is on Vamp Revenge. Iron is Rage will. I made him tanky and tried to get him to hit hard with 100cr and close to 200cd. Doesn't always work but still fun
Which mons do you think should be 2A asap on first play or new acc? I always do Kro, Raoq, Shamann and Spectra but I don’t know who should I do next after that, on 1 or 2 new acc I made I do Gina and Thrain for TOA normal and hard and Vigor for some PVP guild content after that 4 monsters. What do you guys think?
I think Sath is pretty worth it too.
Really useful early but doesn‘t get useless later.
But if you don‘t need him, he id probably not necessary.
I will not take the Fire Cat slander lol just kidding she was my go to when Skogul was everywhere basically a free win now a storage guardian :(
Y’all what your opinion on this siege
defense nana seren and fire phoenix bird
Change bird to wind dokkaebi lord
Next video, I used only Nah rated unit in guild war
Would you and jubi ever play against each other for content ??
i´m using tricaru on lab fire boss auto.... with mikene lider and nickel
How can you show the Speed stats of your mons in arena like that 14:08
Click the little search button to the left of storage and then detailed settings
Do a 3* Tier List!
The music that started when you began covering water kali was distrating/jarring, and it made it hard to focus on what you're saying.
Will take note
i find dozer is kinda op lol his runes arent something that most other units need and in g1 id make a few of him. lulu olivia dozer is kinda op
I have most 5 stars AOE stripers (Tiana, Triton, Zen, K1D, Chiwu) and still use Sillia in arena more than them!
I maxed out her second skill and put her in despair, and she aoe strip to def break is soooo good!
She is a real budget Eludia!
Unrelated but can someone help me fix my account?
Basically I logged out on Steam on China Server (I live in the US) and now I can’t log in to get back to Global server because it keeps asking for my China verification number…
Water Living Armor can solo fire boss in laby (hell)
wind howl is good against Skogul/Trasar comps in Siege
I have multiple dark witch grim and fire grim and dots tank 4* def 😂😂
i will judge seanb for not fully skilling his units
Only the ones that need it 😂
@@SeanBGames i did have a question for you about summoning for me for my birthday in a few months do i just email closer to that time?
Thankyou b
SeanB I really want to show you my account but I don’t know how
You can find his email in descriptions
2a fran when? 😂
First one 👽💯
As a Gurkha owner I love Kai‘en he’s so much better than Gurkha in my opinion and I love using him in rta, he’s quite underrated in my opinion.
can you please chill with the music on all the videos nowadays its quite loud and annoying
First
second :(