Awesome collection great dedication. New old stock gets confused with new in box. There’s a difference. NOS means never been used. NIB means it has never been opened or taken out of its packaging. I suppose there are exceptions/allowances for each. That might include reasons for study, fitment, preservation, photography etc. Some buyers might be pickier than other buyers about that , which could affect value. The motor as you’ve said needed to be removed from its crate and serviced for preservation. The frame could be argued because some say it shouldn’t be painted (as someone commented) but the proof is in the details that show there hasn’t been anything mounted. Besides as all of us know Harley-Davidson didn’t follow a strict guideline in their manufacturing, assembly, distribution, marketing, dealership, repair etc process.
i like your analysis of the terms . originally with the motor the previous owner wanted to get it prepared for use . but never did use it. we all know harley history isn't perfect and debate on lots of items still continue to this day. example 54 panheads as 50 anniversary models. i knew there would be debate on some of these parts and the idea to construct this nos motorcycle . thanks for the great comment
I have my doubts about the frame being NOS. I also bought a NOS frame a few years ago, it was not painted green. In the years after I came across a few more and not one of them was green. but there were preservatives from top to bottom
i've seen pictures of two in the original crates . picture was from a few months ago. they are green. when your up close and personal with this frame in particular you can see under the green paint the brazing residue. none of it is sanded or prepped in any way. this particular frame doesn't even have the seat post busing . the paint extends in the area . when you go over all the frame there is no sign of any wear. none on the axle plates none anywhere. if had been used and then repainted there would be visual signs. the ones you found were they post war? but everyone is entitled to their opinions . cheers
wish i could have seen them personally. if they were post war there would be some things that would identify them as post war . 3 bolt clutch cable mount in 47 . coil blocks in 48. no lug in front of trans mount i'm 1950-52. i'm assuming they were black. they could have been war era frames repainted post war and sent out there. there are so many possibilities . i know what i have and what i've seen. not sure what video i seen on the wheels thru time youtube but i'm sure i seen a nos green one in a display case. cheers
@Savetherust believe me, those frames were all from the war. And as I said before, after the war, no frames came to Europe. There were more than enough left over from the war.
I watched a tatro machine video , he has at least 1 nos wla frame he was using as a reference for measurements. I believe he has many more from several comments he made
Love these nos videos. Going to sit down and have a coffee as it morning in Australia. Cheers mate
i'll have more coming . glad you find it interesting . should have another within the next day or so
Awesome collection great dedication. New old stock gets confused with new in box. There’s a difference. NOS means never been used. NIB means it has never been opened or taken out of its packaging. I suppose there are exceptions/allowances for each. That might include reasons for study, fitment, preservation, photography etc. Some buyers might be pickier than other buyers about that , which could affect value. The motor as you’ve said needed to be removed from its crate and serviced for preservation. The frame could be argued because some say it shouldn’t be painted (as someone commented) but the proof is in the details that show there hasn’t been anything mounted. Besides as all of us know Harley-Davidson didn’t follow a strict guideline in their manufacturing, assembly, distribution, marketing, dealership, repair etc process.
i like your analysis of the terms . originally with the motor the previous owner wanted to get it prepared for use . but never did use it. we all know harley history isn't perfect and debate on lots of items still continue to this day. example 54 panheads as 50 anniversary models. i knew there would be debate on some of these parts and the idea to construct this nos motorcycle . thanks for the great comment
Cool stuff. Build it.
that's the plan . another video coming in next few days
Hole in the fender is original for fender light wire
Thats what i think as well. But if you saw how rough it is made it makes me think it was an after thought or done after paint.
I have my doubts about the frame being NOS. I also bought a NOS frame a few years ago, it was not painted green. In the years after I came across a few more and not one of them was green. but there were preservatives from top to bottom
i've seen pictures of two in the original crates . picture was from a few months ago. they are green. when your up close and personal with this frame in particular you can see under the green paint the brazing residue. none of it is sanded or prepped in any way. this particular frame doesn't even have the seat post busing . the paint extends in the area . when you go over all the frame there is no sign of any wear. none on the axle plates none anywhere. if had been used and then repainted there would be visual signs. the ones you found were they post war? but everyone is entitled to their opinions . cheers
@Savetherust the ones I saw were all from the war. As far as I know not many post war frames came to Europe, there was still enough left from the war.
wish i could have seen them personally. if they were post war there would be some things that would identify them as post war . 3 bolt clutch cable mount in 47 . coil blocks in 48. no lug in front of trans mount i'm 1950-52. i'm assuming they were black. they could have been war era frames repainted post war and sent out there. there are so many possibilities . i know what i have and what i've seen. not sure what video i seen on the wheels thru time youtube but i'm sure i seen a nos green one in a display case. cheers
@Savetherust believe me, those frames were all from the war. And as I said before, after the war, no frames came to Europe. There were more than enough left over from the war.
I watched a tatro machine video , he has at least 1 nos wla frame he was using as a reference for measurements. I believe he has many more from several comments he made
super interesting . i've watched some of his videos . super knowledgeable guy. he definitely knows his 45s