Love everything about this coach! Love the manual trays! Love the tilt-up bed to watch tv and easier to change the sheets! Love the non-walk-in rear closet with no wasted space!
At first I thought where is hanging closet? Then he shows it last I’m like holy crap is that a walk in?! That is one of the best motor homes I’ve seen! It’s more like a 5th wheel with walk in closet and nice big shower! Would make a great full timer! Now to find a rich man! 🤔 🤣
Hi Matt and Andrea! My dislikes are no electric buttons for the trays for storage. I agree the closet should be a bit bigger. But doable. No work station. I live the big huge shower in master bath. I love the theater seats and love the outdoor freezer in the storage. This is a nice Tiffin. Thank you Matt and Andrea!
I really like the full wall opposing slides. The xtr large theater seats are very nice. The kitchen is nice especially the large window and counter extension. Of course the large shower is amazing! The stackable W/D are great to have. I would like to see a tilted wireless charging pad for the driver. A one touch control button for the living room televator, I don’t want to have to hold the button. Get rid of the dining table and turn the credenza into a work station/eating counter. I would want to swap the 3 seat sofa for a traditional cloth or velvet sofa/loveseat.
Love that there is no TV above the dash!! Finally!! I'm looking for one without the lift bed. I want the underneath storage. I think electric tray slides were breaking under the weight. the manual slides are just fine and are still smooth under a lot of weight. We have a 2016 45OP
I understand why you don't like the tilt-a-bed, but in case Tiffin is reading this, I want to make sure that you know that some of us LOVE the tilt-a-bed. For me it's because it allows for an 80" long mattress instead of 70" or 75", which would be an absolute dealbreaker, especially at this price.
the manual trays are the BESt - for me anyway, if the batteries are low or electric issues, i can pull them in and out if needed. ALSO try pull easlier and probably faster than the power. AND the closet looks plentiful for me anyway. I like the shelfs in the bedroom.
When i eventually get my class a i was thinking recliners, but those huge theater seats were calling my name. Didn't seem like much storage inside for a 45'. Love the shower, huge. No TV above the cab area seems like a miss. Overall though, not bad at all.
3 things I like 1. I love the shower with a shower bench 2. I love the bedroom 3. I love the storage 3 things I don't like 1. I don't like the tilter bed 2. I don't like the fact that there's no workspace 3. I don't like the generator unite they should've built the door a little better
Awesome floorplan! Love galley's on the driver side. Dislikes: how unusable the coach is with slides in and surprised it doesnt have the option for a bigger motor like a Cummins X12
With the manual trays on high-end bearings, they slide out effortlessly. No need to stand there for 10 minutes while a tray extends. And... the fact that Tiffin installs tilt beds in their luxury class motorhomes should give you a hint... And if you still don't get it... leave the bed flat until you get a little older. You'll figure it out eventually. 😉
We seriously considered the smaller Allegro Bus when we bought our Dutch Star, but in the end went with the DS due to bath and a half in 38’. In this unit, Likes: ceiling fan, shower, no carpet in the slides. Dislikes: Two small kitchen instead of one big one, tilt bed, and wish fireplace was in the living room. Also have a question…if this is not on a Freightliner or Spartan chassis, are there any issues getting it serviced?
Matt, you failed to touch on 2 key differentiators of the Tiffin vs. other brands: Basement storage height is significantly taller and you have a fully flat floor throughout the whole coach. Also, the dinette has a computer work station (you mention as one of your dislikes that it did not have one) and also the power tilt bed is an option. Standard is a non tilting bed in the same dimensions. Power basement trays used to be an option but it looks like they are not available from the factory for 2023. You could always option it without slide trays and have electric ones installed. As far as I can tell, closet space is not less than any other 45ft coach. Many just move the washer/dryer into the closet which makes the closet seem deeper, but overall hanging space is still the same. Since you are trying to sell RVs, it might be helpful to inform your viewers of what options are included in the coach being reviewed and what other options are available. Otherwise someone might not consider the coach due to the specific option content of this particular coach (i.e. front overhead TV is standard, not having it in this coach is an option).
Very nice coach. I like the manual slide trays, the theater seating and the fact that there is no carpeting. I dislike the floor plan. It's too straight. Boring. I'm not thrilled with the bedroom and I'm disappointed with some of the finishes. I say all this because I own a Tiffin Allegro Bus 45'. I have the L couch with TV and fireplace in the opposite corner. A true division in living area and kitchen. And I LOVE my shower with the stone and marble finish. Went from a Newmar to a Tiffin and glad we did.
Tiffin needs to clean up their wiring where their chassis fuses are…that outdoor storage door under driver seat looked like a rats nest of relays fuses etc…but overall nice coach
An egress door is great, but one where you have to navigate around or over a toilet to exit the bus. Sounds like an injury waiting to happen especially in a high stress situation.
@@AncientRe Yeah….the marine engineer actually travels with consumers Carl and Bertha on their road adventures …..like they do on a yacht. You sir have been using your thinking cap. Well done. Which bunk does Fritz use?
6:01 Likes: Just about everything! 😊 Dislikes: Double sink in kitchen. One big sink would be awesome. Fireplace in the bedroom. I would like more storage. To low to enjoy in bed anyway. Get rid of the dinette!! Put in a booth.
I really like this floorplan! I loved all the AP Allegro Bus floor plans when they first came out (all lengths), but this new FP floorplan takes the cake when it comes to usable living space. I never could figure out why one would waste so much space on a "walk-in" closet on a coach. As for the manual trays? I'll take those all day every day over automatics. Automatic trays are slow as molasses and just frustrate the hell out of me; manual trays are quick and easy with no need to tap your foot waiting for them to move another 6 inches...
I actually prefer manual trays--one less thing to fail. Love that they got rid of the carpet in the slide outs, the ceiling fan, and the shower. I was okay with the trade-off between the room in the shower vs. room in the bathroom and the living space. I don't like how almost all the hardware (e.g. door handles) was black, but the some was still chrome (e.g. shower frame, water faucet in the kitchen sink, bedroom door hardware.) Don't know if you mentioned it, but there is an option for a 45OHP engine or the 605HP engine. I must have missed the macerator also. Overall very nice package.
Very nice unit, i like the cabinetry and even the colour my only dislike is the front of the rv, fiberglass cap design, does not look like a king’s coach. Looks bland. Oh and the wiring is very very sloppy.
Andrea, I think Iam missing something. 24:10 You said you got 8 P's but then Matt says "Prime Pooping Position', twice, so that's 6 P's for me. Still confused.
Why does Matt always point out the size of the tires? Is there some hidden meaning in the relative size of the tires? (Yeah, I know what my tire sizes are, only because I've had so many blowouts.)
Likes: 1. 10k ccp 2. "drawers" in the cupboards 3. Shower.. my kind of shower dislikes: 1. 2 seat dinette 2. work station 3. lack of counter space.. Imagen going shopping and buying 2k worth of "stuff" groceries. You arrive back and unpacking the car. You are alone and carrying into the RV. (Slides in) Where to put all the things?? Dinette was the first option, BUT NOW YOU CANT. So you start puting it on the sofa. Melting/condensation is dripping on to your sofa ....................
Hey so gorgeous unit .. it’s (a lot) more than my planned price point, so it’s regrettably a pass .:. There is a trash can, and the MSRP of that trash can is: $672584 (MSRP) / 39490 (estimated empty weight) x 3 lbs (medium trash can weight) = $51.10 - absolutely a matched accessory pice at the highest end boutique kitchen supply store on the planet, but not $156 sorry Matt .:. 👍🏽beautiful interior, single point control panel, cockpit trim, kitchen storage, WD DW, and shower size .:. 👎🏽 Tiffin’s in-house chassis might be harder to find service than F or S, I’d like to sleep more than 2 (would option an OHB), and we’d option a 3-burner cook top .:. Not sure on the boondock friendly - how comfortable is the sleep on the tilt .:. Those are my thoughts, thanks for sharing M/A
Wow, 10k ccc, amazing. Dislikes, door in front of passenger seat, with slides in rv difficult to use, dark cabinets. Likes: bath and half, kitchen, king bed, and ceiling fan.
I own a Tiffin ( Knight ) wow Tiffin there’s nothing that special about this bus. The best thing is the lift up cabinets. No extra TV in the front? Hope the guests are not wanting to watch sports with you. Not even an upgraded mirror in the half bath ( this looks like my Knight) back lit would be nice. And those pillows, they should ring up Newmar for some decor ideas. The shower is overkill should have put that space into the bathroom closet and again with a nicer mirror set up. Nothing says “buy me”for the price over a Tiffin Phaeton.😮 women need to be on the design team for this coach to make it look and feel like you are getting something for your money that’s beyond the Knight… right Henry the King?
Gorgeous with a price to match..Why do so many rigs not have under bed storage ? Especially the smaller ones.Someone please explain.Would like to see y'all design a rig for the average person. So put your heads together,grab a computer etc and show us something. Safe and fun New Year. See ya in 2023.🥂🍾
Too tight with the slides in. Tiffin quality has gone down hill. Going to Red Bay from west coast is not an option for warranty. Shower is nice, bathroom is great and manual trays are a plus. However, I'm not a player at that price.
08:18 poor Andrea getting sofa burns on her legs trying to squeeze through that ridiculously tight tiny space when slides are in. Put some vitamin E on it my queen 👸🏽 😊I hope there is no scarring. If there is sue tiffin motor homes. Tell them you will settle for a free coach ❤
I have to say you people rub off on folk. When ever I’m talking to somebody and I say it’s over there I then point and insert a (BING ) and nobody gets when I tell them they are drinking poh tah ble water and I say it twice. Then they get really confused when I ask them if they want to go up on the roof and see it 😊
Love everything about this coach! Love the manual trays! Love the tilt-up bed to watch tv and easier to change the sheets! Love the non-walk-in rear closet with no wasted space!
I would buy this unit tomorrow except for one thing, I’m only a half a million dollar short !!!! LOL
Did no one really not notice the frog on the sub bay door two in top corner near the gas strut @ 4:37-39 when Matt is closing the bay door!
I did.
At first I thought where is hanging closet? Then he shows it last I’m like holy crap is that a walk in?! That is one of the best motor homes I’ve seen! It’s more like a 5th wheel with walk in closet and nice big shower! Would make a great full timer! Now to find a rich man! 🤔 🤣
Oh that is a Standard Poodle kind of SHOWER!!!! Princess Jazmina approves!!!!
Hi Matt and Andrea! My dislikes are no electric buttons for the trays for storage. I agree the closet should be a bit bigger. But doable. No work station. I live the big huge shower in master bath. I love the theater seats and love the outdoor freezer in the storage. This is a nice Tiffin. Thank you Matt and Andrea!
Love this coach. I don’t mind the manual trays, less motors to break. Im with you also I dislike the tilt a beds.
The electric trays are so slow. I'd rather give the manuals a quick yank and access my stuff. Don't add motors when they just make things worse.
I really like the full wall opposing slides.
The xtr large theater seats are very nice.
The kitchen is nice especially the large window and counter extension.
Of course the large shower is amazing!
The stackable W/D are great to have.
I would like to see a tilted wireless charging pad for the driver.
A one touch control button for the living room televator, I don’t want to have to hold the button.
Get rid of the dining table and turn the credenza into a work station/eating counter.
I would want to swap the 3 seat sofa for a traditional cloth or velvet sofa/loveseat.
Love that there is no TV above the dash!! Finally!! I'm looking for one without the lift bed. I want the underneath storage. I think electric tray slides were breaking under the weight. the manual slides are just fine and are still smooth under a lot of weight. We have a 2016 45OP
I like the Tilta bed . In fact I prefer them .
4 minutes in and in love already!!! A Baby Window
How was there actually Art Deco inspired side valances and lights and Mat missed it 🤣🤣 you guys are the best!
Thank you
When there is an electrical issue it's nice to be able to roll out the cargo slides manually.
Beautiful coach. Great review Matt and Andrea. Love all the Storage space and floor plan.
I'll never be able to afford this but wow I love this coach! Appreciate y'all showing this one.
I understand why you don't like the tilt-a-bed, but in case Tiffin is reading this, I want to make sure that you know that some of us LOVE the tilt-a-bed. For me it's because it allows for an 80" long mattress instead of 70" or 75", which would be an absolute dealbreaker, especially at this price.
I like the sofa also Andrea
Great motorhome. So you went to Alabama and she went to Auburn? Lol. Go Coogs!!
Andrea, flexing that history knowledge on Matt😂
the manual trays are the BESt - for me anyway, if the batteries are low or electric issues, i can pull them in and out if needed. ALSO try pull easlier and probably faster than the power. AND the closet looks plentiful for me anyway. I like the shelfs in the bedroom.
When i eventually get my class a i was thinking recliners, but those huge theater seats were calling my name. Didn't seem like much storage inside for a 45'. Love the shower, huge. No TV above the cab area seems like a miss. Overall though, not bad at all.
I have a Tiffin Allegro Bus and I wish I had the manual trays. the motorized ones are too slow!
3 things I like
1. I love the shower with a shower bench
2. I love the bedroom
3. I love the storage
3 things I don't like
1. I don't like the tilter bed
2. I don't like the fact that there's no workspace
3. I don't like the generator unite they should've built the door a little better
Awesome floorplan! Love galley's on the driver side. Dislikes: how unusable the coach is with slides in and surprised it doesnt have the option for a bigger motor like a Cummins X12
Just checked out the Tiffin Website, and you can in fact get an x15
With the manual trays on high-end bearings, they slide out effortlessly. No need to stand there for 10 minutes while a tray extends. And... the fact that Tiffin installs tilt beds in their luxury class motorhomes should give you a hint... And if you still don't get it... leave the bed flat until you get a little older. You'll figure it out eventually. 😉
great, now i have to rush through this video to learn about henry the 8th. i only heard about him in a very old song “henry the 8th i am i am” lol
What a beautiful Class A
Just awesome
nice job
We seriously considered the smaller Allegro Bus when we bought our Dutch Star, but in the end went with the DS due to bath and a half in 38’. In this unit, Likes: ceiling fan, shower, no carpet in the slides. Dislikes: Two small kitchen instead of one big one, tilt bed, and wish fireplace was in the living room. Also have a question…if this is not on a Freightliner or Spartan chassis, are there any issues getting it serviced?
Matt, you failed to touch on 2 key differentiators of the Tiffin vs. other brands: Basement storage height is significantly taller and you have a fully flat floor throughout the whole coach. Also, the dinette has a computer work station (you mention as one of your dislikes that it did not have one) and also the power tilt bed is an option. Standard is a non tilting bed in the same dimensions. Power basement trays used to be an option but it looks like they are not available from the factory for 2023. You could always option it without slide trays and have electric ones installed. As far as I can tell, closet space is not less than any other 45ft coach. Many just move the washer/dryer into the closet which makes the closet seem deeper, but overall hanging space is still the same. Since you are trying to sell RVs, it might be helpful to inform your viewers of what options are included in the coach being reviewed and what other options are available. Otherwise someone might not consider the coach due to the specific option content of this particular coach (i.e. front overhead TV is standard, not having it in this coach is an option).
Very nice coach. I like the manual slide trays, the theater seating and the fact that there is no carpeting. I dislike the floor plan. It's too straight. Boring. I'm not thrilled with the bedroom and I'm disappointed with some of the finishes. I say all this because I own a Tiffin Allegro Bus 45'. I have the L couch with TV and fireplace in the opposite corner. A true division in living area and kitchen. And I LOVE my shower with the stone and marble finish. Went from a Newmar to a Tiffin and glad we did.
No lights in the pantry ???
Love ❤ the air horn
Beautiful RV.
That's a nice land yacht.
Tiffin needs to clean up their wiring where their chassis fuses are…that outdoor storage door under driver seat looked like a rats nest of relays fuses etc…but overall nice coach
An egress door is great, but one where you have to navigate around or over a toilet to exit the bus. Sounds like an injury waiting to happen especially in a high stress situation.
What's wrong with a tilt a bed ????
You would need a marine engineer to keep all of those systems working. How could the average consumer learn all of that????
@@AncientRe Yeah….the marine engineer actually travels with consumers Carl and Bertha on their road adventures …..like they do on a yacht. You sir have been using your thinking cap. Well done. Which bunk does Fritz use?
True. They are complicated.
6:01
Likes:
Just about everything! 😊
Dislikes:
Double sink in kitchen. One big sink would be awesome.
Fireplace in the bedroom. I would like more storage. To low to enjoy in bed anyway.
Get rid of the dinette!! Put in a booth.
When you pened those 2 electrical bays with spaghetti , that turned me off of it.
Very nice👍🇺🇸🥃
I really like this floorplan! I loved all the AP Allegro Bus floor plans when they first came out (all lengths), but this new FP floorplan takes the cake when it comes to usable living space. I never could figure out why one would waste so much space on a "walk-in" closet on a coach. As for the manual trays? I'll take those all day every day over automatics. Automatic trays are slow as molasses and just frustrate the hell out of me; manual trays are quick and easy with no need to tap your foot waiting for them to move another 6 inches...
I actually prefer manual trays--one less thing to fail. Love that they got rid of the carpet in the slide outs, the ceiling fan, and the shower. I was okay with the trade-off between the room in the shower vs. room in the bathroom and the living space. I don't like how almost all the hardware (e.g. door handles) was black, but the some was still chrome (e.g. shower frame, water faucet in the kitchen sink, bedroom door hardware.) Don't know if you mentioned it, but there is an option for a 45OHP engine or the 605HP engine. I must have missed the macerator also. Overall very nice package.
Matt I need a bus like this.
Why do you not like tilt a beds? Just curious 🧐
It's 44...others 44.11. That's the little bit bigger closet
A beautiful home on wheels, anyone got a half a million I could borrow 😂 very nice!
Very nice unit, i like the cabinetry and even the colour my only dislike is the front of the rv, fiberglass cap design, does not look like a king’s coach. Looks bland. Oh and the wiring is very very sloppy.
Andrea, I think Iam missing something. 24:10 You said you got 8 P's but then Matt says "Prime Pooping Position', twice, so that's 6 P's for me. Still confused.
Porcelain toilet 🚽 is a P
So it’s the 4 Ps
What do you feed Luna? Do you make her food or already buy it made?
We feed her Stella and Chewys 🐶
I like the coach, but the wiring looks very messy. Tiffin needs to do better.
For that kind of money it should have handles instead of those cheap o knobs
Hey man I have a pic on you at that tractor trash Lane is about $400 now with the cost of living right bye-bye
The wiring looks a tad sloppy
Geaux Tiger!!!
King of class A
Guys you should come to europe to sale this wonderfull coaches.
Wouldn’t the king of diesel pushers be the king aire
Why does Matt always point out the size of the tires? Is there some hidden meaning in the relative size of the tires? (Yeah, I know what my tire sizes are, only because I've had so many blowouts.)
Viewers asked us do that along time ago.now it’s just a habit for us
Likes:
1. 10k ccp
2. "drawers" in the cupboards
3. Shower.. my kind of shower
dislikes:
1. 2 seat dinette
2. work station
3. lack of counter space..
Imagen going shopping and buying 2k worth of "stuff" groceries.
You arrive back and unpacking the car.
You are alone and carrying into the RV. (Slides in)
Where to put all the things??
Dinette was the first option, BUT NOW YOU CANT.
So you start puting it on the sofa.
Melting/condensation is dripping on to your sofa
....................
$2K worth of groceries? You'd need a separate trailer to store and haul them!
Gray
Hey so gorgeous unit .. it’s (a lot) more than my planned price point, so it’s regrettably a pass .:. There is a trash can, and the MSRP of that trash can is: $672584 (MSRP) / 39490 (estimated empty weight) x 3 lbs (medium trash can weight) = $51.10 - absolutely a matched accessory pice at the highest end boutique kitchen supply store on the planet, but not $156 sorry Matt .:. 👍🏽beautiful interior, single point control panel, cockpit trim, kitchen storage, WD DW, and shower size .:. 👎🏽 Tiffin’s in-house chassis might be harder to find service than F or S, I’d like to sleep more than 2 (would option an OHB), and we’d option a 3-burner cook top .:. Not sure on the boondock friendly - how comfortable is the sleep on the tilt .:. Those are my thoughts, thanks for sharing M/A
Wow, 10k ccc, amazing. Dislikes, door in front of passenger seat, with slides in rv difficult to use, dark cabinets. Likes: bath and half, kitchen, king bed, and ceiling fan.
Wouldn't the owner have to have a CDL to drive that because of the air brakes?
No…our Dutch Star has them, no special license in most states. Texas requires some kind of quasi-CDL endorsement, but it’s not a full CDL.
@@turnbullstravels735 Oh, okay.
Nope. I work for the DMV. It's a little terrifying to see some of them driven! 😳😬
@@ericalampley480 The way people drive, I'm surprised a CDL is optional with those things.
Post more used rigs
I own a Tiffin ( Knight ) wow Tiffin there’s nothing that special about this bus. The best thing is the lift up cabinets. No extra TV in the front? Hope the guests are not wanting to watch sports with you. Not even an upgraded mirror in the half bath ( this looks like my Knight) back lit would be nice. And those pillows, they should ring up Newmar for some decor ideas. The shower is overkill should have put that space into the bathroom closet and again with a nicer mirror set up. Nothing says “buy me”for the price over a Tiffin Phaeton.😮 women need to be on the design team for this coach to make it look and feel like you are getting something for your money that’s beyond the Knight… right Henry the King?
Gorgeous with a price to match..Why do so many rigs not have under bed storage ? Especially the smaller ones.Someone please explain.Would like to see y'all design a rig for the average person. So put your heads together,grab a computer etc and show us something. Safe and fun New Year. See ya in 2023.🥂🍾
PPP X 2
👍
Too tight with the slides in. Tiffin quality has gone down hill. Going to Red Bay from west coast is not an option for warranty. Shower is nice, bathroom is great and manual trays are a plus. However, I'm not a player at that price.
Miss Andrea your so beautiful
👍☃️❄🎄⛄❤💚❤❤💚👻
I think it is under powered 45 feet and a450 engine 🤷♀️
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Don't care for the Dodge Charger/Durango taillights
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$660,000 alot of dough
Do u need a special driver license to driv this motorhomes
Another $672,000 traveling and touring coach with no travel access and/or livability👎👎👎
I don't understand a 6 inch walkway in an rv. You're better off in a truck and fifth wheel trailer
08:18 poor Andrea getting sofa burns on her legs trying to squeeze through that ridiculously tight tiny space when slides are in. Put some vitamin E on it my queen 👸🏽 😊I hope there is no scarring. If there is sue tiffin motor homes. Tell them you will settle for a free coach ❤
I have to say you people rub off on folk. When ever I’m talking to somebody and I say it’s over there I then point and insert a (BING ) and nobody gets when I tell them they are drinking poh tah ble water and I say it twice. Then they get really confused when I ask them if they want to go up on the roof and see it 😊
$675,000 MSRP and a tilt bed, really.