Gaijin is commercial company that build their delivery plans based both on adding new features + fixing issues raised by players. My understanding is that players is the only cause of any stupid changes in game. Gaijin would never go to the YT, look for new things to fix and break their delivery plans. They won't able even deliver own planned features in acceptable quality, I really doubt thay will do something like intentional mobility nerf by analysing YT vids.
@@zagart_gaming probably not, but you showing these areas in videos is eventually going to raise enough hackles to get those areas locked off. So I suppose its sort of a good thing in the long run. still hate that people know about stupid stuff like this
@@DasFlank well, such videos definitely increase quantity of nurses; but since their percentage much lower, than those who enjoy non-standard gameplay, positive impact better - more guys will get some fun before position locked. Do you have any definite reason for your negative position?
@@zagart_gaming although positions like the ones you showed are clever. They are not within what I would call expected gameplay. They can give too much of an advantage to one team over another. And, although you did not highlight it, it also helps to promote spawn abuse. I know how good it can feel to be the one abusing. Just as much as it is painful to be destroyed unawares by someone who is watching spawn. Just my own two cents anwyays
@@DasFlank that what is called "win the war before it starts". You assess only fact of existing of such spots. Full picture is that I spent dozens of hours (without exaggeration) to find and master climb ways to those spots, failed a lot of games to find best timings and ways to achieve them. I was better prepared and I was awarded for that. My viewers spent much less time but they also prepared - they found related videos, will learn them and use in practice. Noone resticts players to use my videos to counter that spots - the more shoot direction spot has, the more direction to get shot. That works both ways. If you learned map good enough you can cope with it. It is always painful to be destoryed. If you being spawn camped that means you lost tactically. I gave my full view of camping and spawn camping particularly in thread below (find comment of Fang an! for more details).
Your videos have helped me with not getting ambushed👊 thank you for showing me where to sit and look because I'm horrible at the game but I do enjoy it so these tips help💯
there is this position in karelia right top spawn at when you spawn you turn around and go to the bunker thats behind in a tiny tiny hill and there is a cap betweem the bunker and the fence ( you can get there with almost any vesicle) and then you can go up a big hill in to a sniping position you can see the enemy bottom left spawn
@@Luukas010 there is left one relatively good spot in Karelia - top left corner of map, if up go up on the hill you'll see point C (partially) and ways around B; you can hide your hull on ATGM carriers
You forgot a massive broken spot right near the lower spawn near C cap point where there's a ridge right within 30 metres of your spawn where you can climb backwards and you have partial view of enemy's route from spawn to C. Unfortunately you're visible too so if someone decides to hunt you down for revenge you're dead unless you shoot and scoot.
What I notice on most of these spots is how much foilage GJ implements to prevent long range engagements. Jungle for example wasnt as bad as a map as it is now since you could have some long range engagements. When they reworked it they basically removed every spot on a hill since you could only see on roadlevel and nowhere above. Its ironic that the battlfields up to 4 have better vehicle combat maps as a Egoshooter, than a Semi-Simulator Vehicle game that has maps, that resemble the smallest gamemodes in Battlefield in terms of how much freedom of movement as a player you have.
@@zagart_gaming Fair point, shows on one hand the skill issue of the playerbase and on the other hand how lazy GJ is. Meanwhile if I get killed once from such a spot I make sure that for the rest of the match the bugger sitting there doesnt get to play without me pinning him or bombing him out of that hole >:D
@@venusflytrap2622 ye Gaijin took care about that :D TBH I think combination of features "multiple spawns" + "killcam" + "drones" toxic as fuck :( Game encourages revenge.
@@zagart_gaming Bro i am not selfish i just dont like to see our spots ruined by gaijin cuz of yt and it happened in the past come on i swear im not hating .. prosper and get best my best wishes one love :)
@@abdellahiehreimo3402 if it was for me, I would like to delete this shitty map. What you call "spots", are only dumb places where you can spawnkill enemies after 30 sec of game.
@@abdellahiehreimo3402, they ruined by players who create bug reports... Gaijin would never search yt videos to find more work to do. They will fix those in any case, I just give opportunity to try those to players.
@@zagart_gaming Been part of warthunder since 2013, they definetly look in UA-cam, Game chat and other social media, not only in english but in spanish german and russian. I was weirdly asked by another dude ingame chat "what do you want it to do" while i explained to a third player that the hörten wasn't fun anymore after the fun spread nerf, dude started to bitch about it being a turning ovni, told him it wasn't te case because it was super fragile and it needed slow Input witch made it turn slow at the speeds that matter in Jets. Next update they gave the hörten it's current fly model wich fixed both of those things. Even small channels have an Impact, they unplugged a yt channel from a dude who wanted to talk with a developer through copy claims, and told phlydaily they would do te same to him if he kept talikng about te fact that there Is cheats in warthunder (Back in 2016 when His channel was minuscule)
On space port map(I think that's the name, there's a building in the middle, a car building, or a car park, the one that goes up to a roof, so I get my teamate to push me into the building, but in the middle it's higher than the tank and there's a space, which u have to get a teamate to push u upto, and I go to the top or a floor under the top and snipe everyone lol
When this map was just added, you could climb that building for free :) Those spots were blocked later, but there is gameplay part recorded on channel, if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/E0inq8ZeMYY/v-deo.html
@@zagart_gaming and I think the building got taller, and they added a floor to the broken pillars so people can't access them any more, so I got a teamate to push me up, and got 14 kills w my leopard 2 PL
@@Mrsharky125 sounds fun :) I still have a lot maps to release with solo climb ways, but when release them all I will start to work on spots for 2+ players.
don't forget to test any spot you want to try in custom battle, otherwise attempt instead of fun will cause disappointment... some of spots are really hard to do without practice
@@Registered_Simp sounds fun :) But you need space in game (passive enemy on C or your team pushing it), so you could climb. For opposite spawn, if you try to climb, with 99% probability you'll be killed - 50% of enemy campers watch this side.
@@Registered_Simp nice, have fun and good luck ! :) I just highlight this because there are always guys who rush spots without taking in account game environment and being disappointed when they die/haven't enough time.
@@shikikanaz4624 usually you can just rotate you vehicle, I don't think there are climb ways that depend on reverse speed) Good reverse speed can be good for better climbing timer, but it never a blocker for climbing way itself
Just tested first position on TURMS-T: I spent twice less time than on Leopard (which is on same BR). Soviet tanks has wider tracks and much better traction, they are very comfortable to do side climbing.
if you can't get in time at least on one spot from this video I have a bad news for you - there is no a single position in this game that will be useful for you :D
Just like in naval this tactic leads to everyone just trying to camp and not play objectives. Lame playstyle relying on your team to secure caps and the win.
in you comment I see huge gaps in game understanding... this will take too much time to fill them so I just will say that in something you are correct, but you are missing lots if details, both in video context and game tactics itself
@@reconzero5699, spawn is map objective just like capture points. If you being spawn camped, that means you lost positional dominance, allowed enemy to complete successful flanking maneur or you just wasn't aware of spot that allows spawn camping. Any of those reasons means you lost you game tactically. I still didn't get any explanation from anyone why camping (spawn camping) is trash gameplay. If you want a real life example, why would I fight jets if I can destroy airfield remotely? Food for thinking.
@@zagart_gaming мене она никогда не нравилась, вечно закидывает на нижнюю половину ещё и постоянно когда берешь что-то типа тигра, или центуриона который тоже не очень торопливый. Так ещё и плюсом механика засветка которая криво работает, из-за которой меня вечно убивали невидимые танки
@@K0B6ACA механики засвета как в картошке тут нет... танк может не отрисоваться только если на высоте 13+ км на самолёте, но это явно не твой случай. Достаточно изучить карту и ты всегда будешь знать, откуда тебя могут прострелить. Из того что ты описал я делаю вывод, что у тебя не выкачан адекватный сетап и ты играешь в один респ. Разумеется ты будешь гореть. У тебя слоты должны быть забиты, чтобы под каждый тип карт у тебя всегда были варианты - захватчики, танки ближнего боя, снайперы, зенитки. Пока ты играешь в один респ у тебя всегда будут плохие карты.
@@zagart_gaming с правой частью согласен, возможно у меня экипажи не полностью вкачаны. Но в один респ я не играю, мой любимый сетап это Strv101(центурион10) ikv91 Strv 103A ikv 103 и вертушка HKP3C, есть каждый из названных тобой видов техники. Его можно было бы дополнить U-sh 405 вместо ikv103, но я почему-то решил изучать финский Т-55 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@K0B6ACA так в чем проблема то тогда, берешь на ikv103 ломаешь тайминги или берёшь позиции с видоса и нагибаешь... видать не распробовал ещё, огонь машинка
hey I show climb ways in custom battle, without enemies; real games with enemies marked in video with "Gameplay" word; I don't have gameplay for all spots, but I will upload them when I record.
You just know Gaijin is looking for any reason to limit our mobility further
Gaijin is commercial company that build their delivery plans based both on adding new features + fixing issues raised by players.
My understanding is that players is the only cause of any stupid changes in game. Gaijin would never go to the YT, look for new things to fix and break their delivery plans. They won't able even deliver own planned features in acceptable quality, I really doubt thay will do something like intentional mobility nerf by analysing YT vids.
@@zagart_gaming probably not, but you showing these areas in videos is eventually going to raise enough hackles to get those areas locked off. So I suppose its sort of a good thing in the long run. still hate that people know about stupid stuff like this
@@DasFlank well, such videos definitely increase quantity of nurses; but since their percentage much lower, than those who enjoy non-standard gameplay, positive impact better - more guys will get some fun before position locked.
Do you have any definite reason for your negative position?
@@zagart_gaming although positions like the ones you showed are clever. They are not within what I would call expected gameplay. They can give too much of an advantage to one team over another. And, although you did not highlight it, it also helps to promote spawn abuse. I know how good it can feel to be the one abusing. Just as much as it is painful to be destroyed unawares by someone who is watching spawn. Just my own two cents anwyays
@@DasFlank that what is called "win the war before it starts". You assess only fact of existing of such spots. Full picture is that I spent dozens of hours (without exaggeration) to find and master climb ways to those spots, failed a lot of games to find best timings and ways to achieve them. I was better prepared and I was awarded for that. My viewers spent much less time but they also prepared - they found related videos, will learn them and use in practice.
Noone resticts players to use my videos to counter that spots - the more shoot direction spot has, the more direction to get shot. That works both ways. If you learned map good enough you can cope with it.
It is always painful to be destoryed. If you being spawn camped that means you lost tactically. I gave my full view of camping and spawn camping particularly in thread below (find comment of Fang an! for more details).
So this is what side climb looks like.
Your videos have helped me with not getting ambushed👊 thank you for showing me where to sit and look because I'm horrible at the game but I do enjoy it so these tips help💯
nice to hear 😊
there is this position in karelia right top spawn at when you spawn you turn around and go to the bunker thats behind in a tiny tiny hill and there is a cap betweem the bunker and the fence ( you can get there with almost any vesicle) and then you can go up a big hill in to a sniping position you can see the enemy bottom left spawn
sorry if the instructions are unclear im not the most perfect english speaker ( im Finnish)
If I got you right, this position already fixed by gaijin :)
@@zagart_gaming im going to see if it is
@@zagart_gaming yes it is
@@Luukas010 there is left one relatively good spot in Karelia - top left corner of map, if up go up on the hill you'll see point C (partially) and ways around B; you can hide your hull on ATGM carriers
I used to play the south F4 spot when i played lower tiers years ago glad to see it still there.
I''ve been looking for a guide like this, subscribed immediately
I really glad you found what you needed, you are welcome here :)
this is why i like playing with you cus you opened my eyes to all of the goofy ass places you can climb to in this godforsaken game
thanks, I like to play with you too :D
В прошлом обновлении гору закрыли... RIP очередная классная позиция
Omg I been trying to figure this maps hidden spot's 🤦🏻♂️🤣 now I see. 👍😁
yeap, quite a lot of them :D
You forgot a massive broken spot right near the lower spawn near C cap point where there's a ridge right within 30 metres of your spawn where you can climb backwards and you have partial view of enemy's route from spawn to C.
Unfortunately you're visible too so if someone decides to hunt you down for revenge you're dead unless you shoot and scoot.
04:43 At this spot you're no longer a ground vehicle. You're CAS now.
What I notice on most of these spots is how much foilage GJ implements to prevent long range engagements. Jungle for example wasnt as bad as a map as it is now since you could have some long range engagements. When they reworked it they basically removed every spot on a hill since you could only see on roadlevel and nowhere above.
Its ironic that the battlfields up to 4 have better vehicle combat maps as a Egoshooter, than a Semi-Simulator Vehicle game that has maps, that resemble the smallest gamemodes in Battlefield in terms of how much freedom of movement as a player you have.
I blame players that create issue reports for such stupid changes... Gaijin just pleases its' clients
@@zagart_gaming Fair point, shows on one hand the skill issue of the playerbase and on the other hand how lazy GJ is. Meanwhile if I get killed once from such a spot I make sure that for the rest of the match the bugger sitting there doesnt get to play without me pinning him or bombing him out of that hole >:D
@@venusflytrap2622 ye Gaijin took care about that :D
TBH I think combination of features "multiple spawns" + "killcam" + "drones" toxic as fuck :(
Game encourages revenge.
Oh I'm so happy I found this WHILE playing ground rb 😆
Thank u for helping gaijin nerf these spots ..Social media is dumb sh8
you are welcome, selfish guy :)
@@zagart_gaming Bro i am not selfish i just dont like to see our spots ruined by gaijin cuz of yt and it happened in the past come on i swear im not hating .. prosper and get best my best wishes one love :)
@@abdellahiehreimo3402 if it was for me, I would like to delete this shitty map. What you call "spots", are only dumb places where you can spawnkill enemies after 30 sec of game.
@@abdellahiehreimo3402, they ruined by players who create bug reports... Gaijin would never search yt videos to find more work to do.
They will fix those in any case, I just give opportunity to try those to players.
@@zagart_gaming Been part of warthunder since 2013, they definetly look in UA-cam, Game chat and other social media, not only in english but in spanish german and russian.
I was weirdly asked by another dude ingame chat "what do you want it to do" while i explained to a third player that the hörten wasn't fun anymore after the fun spread nerf, dude started to bitch about it being a turning ovni, told him it wasn't te case because it was super fragile and it needed slow Input witch made it turn slow at the speeds that matter in Jets.
Next update they gave the hörten it's current fly model wich fixed both of those things.
Even small channels have an Impact, they unplugged a yt channel from a dude who wanted to talk with a developer through copy claims, and told phlydaily they would do te same to him if he kept talikng about te fact that there Is cheats in warthunder (Back in 2016 when His channel was minuscule)
Thanks for this absolut best spot videos do you make !
You are the best man Thanks for that
I support you ☝🏽
you are welcome :)
thanks for support!
Very nice video, but could you change up the music next time? The same track on loop is a bit too much :p
sorry, but find 25 minutes of good music a bit too much for me :)
I posted request for music in community section, feel free to share if you want
so..playing as mountain goat on korean map..nice
Very nice
I remember Gaijin themselves made a video something like this and it got removed in a week lol
really? I didn't know about that :)
do you remember how it called, maybe somewhere on web some copies left? would be interesting to look at
On space port map(I think that's the name, there's a building in the middle, a car building, or a car park, the one that goes up to a roof, so I get my teamate to push me into the building, but in the middle it's higher than the tank and there's a space, which u have to get a teamate to push u upto, and I go to the top or a floor under the top and snipe everyone lol
When this map was just added, you could climb that building for free :)
Those spots were blocked later, but there is gameplay part recorded on channel, if you are interested: ua-cam.com/video/E0inq8ZeMYY/v-deo.html
@@zagart_gaming oh, ok, I didn't know about that lol, thx, and Love ya vids
@@zagart_gaming and I think the building got taller, and they added a floor to the broken pillars so people can't access them any more, so I got a teamate to push me up, and got 14 kills w my leopard 2 PL
@@Mrsharky125 sounds fun :)
I still have a lot maps to release with solo climb ways, but when release them all I will start to work on spots for 2+ players.
@@zagart_gaming oh, ok, enjoy
Love your channel!
glad to hear, thanks :)
Uhhh.
This man is the reason of stupid red zones on modern maps.
You are wrong. If you'll check carefully, I started to show climb ways only after Gaijin added red zones.
@@zagart_gaming do you know what joke is?
@@WoWmakerWT sorry man, eng is not my native language so I may read some comments as bot :)
@@zagart_gaming me neither.
GL with next map
does the floor 3 climb still work? sounds like a very fun thing to do with friends
unfortunately, they blocked main entrance... you can't really get there in real games
@@zagart_gaming okay but is there a way to get in that I could use in custom?
Time to nerf traction again
-Gaijin
🙄
Awesome vidoes will have try it out 😊
don't forget to test any spot you want to try in custom battle, otherwise attempt instead of fun will cause disappointment... some of spots are really hard to do without practice
Hopefully there is aircraft to get rid of those pesky campers.
True, but I won't believe that you never camped :D
But what you will do with ADATS in that spot..?
Now gaijin can have a reason to bring this map out of the pool.
We need more comments about Gaijin reaction under this vid
3:37 Ain't no way CAS finding me in my SAM up here ONG 💀💀💀💀💀
Unfortunately it will :D
But if you use SPAA with manual AA-missiles, helicopters will cry... if while you climb there game still not ended :D
@@zagart_gaming FlaRakPz-1 + IRST says hello :^)
@@Registered_Simp sounds fun :)
But you need space in game (passive enemy on C or your team pushing it), so you could climb.
For opposite spawn, if you try to climb, with 99% probability you'll be killed - 50% of enemy campers watch this side.
@@zagart_gaming Oh believe me IK this spot is really risky. I'd only really try it as a meme
@@Registered_Simp nice, have fun and good luck ! :)
I just highlight this because there are always guys who rush spots without taking in account game environment and being disappointed when they die/haven't enough time.
Wiesel is best for climbing or Radpanzer for speed
depends on spot
haha this is so sick... Noice
it takes only good amount of RPM tanks achieve it
no it's not, key is traction
Now that's some content! Would you mind if I use part of your video in an upcoming video of mine? Credit and everything will be included of course ;)
sure mate, thanks for attention to content)
@@zagart_gaming cheers buddy o7
damn cant wait to try in my ptl02 when i get this map :)
try in custom battle before do that in game to avoid failures)
@@zagart_gaming i've also seen some of your other videos and it seems that some spots favors vehicles with good reverse speed. oh well
@@shikikanaz4624, I don't remember spots that depend on reverse speed... which ones do you mean?
@@zagart_gaming well it just seems like that the vehicles you used had good reverse speeds so idk, I guess I could be wrong
@@shikikanaz4624 usually you can just rotate you vehicle, I don't think there are climb ways that depend on reverse speed)
Good reverse speed can be good for better climbing timer, but it never a blocker for climbing way itself
b5 seems like a foul udes33 spot
sounds like a good plan 🤔
Update incoming in the next weeks... new red zones...
bruh, so much similar comments under my vids 😅
don't worry, that doesn't work that way
This would be impossible on any soviet tank
Why do you think so?
Just tested first position on TURMS-T: I spent twice less time than on Leopard (which is on same BR).
Soviet tanks has wider tracks and much better traction, they are very comfortable to do side climbing.
@@zagart_gaming on realistic ?
@@alberta3157 ofc, I never play arcade. But traction would be the same even for arcade, engine power doesn't affect side climbing that much.
@@zagart_gaming well dam then gota try it out sometime
Noted.
I detest being free killed by people outside the map 🤬💩
it's not free
Sadly the spots are patched
not all of them tho
Shure. And by the time you get there the game is over or you get killed....useless
if you can't get in time at least on one spot from this video I have a bad news for you - there is no a single position in this game that will be useful for you :D
Way is Closed
well, yeap.. not many climb ways left on this map
Good thing I have this map banned
I condemn this behavior...
Anyway you can't ban all maps
Fixed
partially
Takes too long to get into position, no bueno
some of them, yes
you still need to have understanding of game situation to use each position properly..
Just like in naval this tactic leads to everyone just trying to camp and not play objectives. Lame playstyle relying on your team to secure caps and the win.
in you comment I see huge gaps in game understanding... this will take too much time to fill them so I just will say that in something you are correct, but you are missing lots if details, both in video context and game tactics itself
Now delete it. the spots are ruined
ofc smart guy
Trash camping gameplay
Could you define your vision of "non-trash" gameplay? I am open for constructive discussion.
Unfortunately war thunder encourages camping
The only trash camping is spawn camping
@@reconzero5699, spawn is map objective just like capture points. If you being spawn camped, that means you lost positional dominance, allowed enemy to complete successful flanking maneur or you just wasn't aware of spot that allows spawn camping.
Any of those reasons means you lost you game tactically.
I still didn't get any explanation from anyone why camping (spawn camping) is trash gameplay.
If you want a real life example, why would I fight jets if I can destroy airfield remotely? Food for thinking.
38-ая паралель говно 👎💩
топовая карта, крайне осуждаю такую оценку D:
@@zagart_gaming мене она никогда не нравилась, вечно закидывает на нижнюю половину ещё и постоянно когда берешь что-то типа тигра, или центуриона который тоже не очень торопливый.
Так ещё и плюсом механика засветка которая криво работает, из-за которой меня вечно убивали невидимые танки
@@K0B6ACA механики засвета как в картошке тут нет... танк может не отрисоваться только если на высоте 13+ км на самолёте, но это явно не твой случай. Достаточно изучить карту и ты всегда будешь знать, откуда тебя могут прострелить.
Из того что ты описал я делаю вывод, что у тебя не выкачан адекватный сетап и ты играешь в один респ. Разумеется ты будешь гореть. У тебя слоты должны быть забиты, чтобы под каждый тип карт у тебя всегда были варианты - захватчики, танки ближнего боя, снайперы, зенитки. Пока ты играешь в один респ у тебя всегда будут плохие карты.
@@zagart_gaming с правой частью согласен, возможно у меня экипажи не полностью вкачаны.
Но в один респ я не играю, мой любимый сетап это Strv101(центурион10) ikv91 Strv 103A ikv 103 и вертушка HKP3C, есть каждый из названных тобой видов техники. Его можно было бы дополнить U-sh 405 вместо ikv103, но я почему-то решил изучать финский Т-55 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@K0B6ACA так в чем проблема то тогда, берешь на ikv103 ломаешь тайминги или берёшь позиции с видоса и нагибаешь... видать не распробовал ещё, огонь машинка
Where is enemi? And how long u go up? Maybe on finish game u on top hill? :D
hey
I show climb ways in custom battle, without enemies; real games with enemies marked in video with "Gameplay" word; I don't have gameplay for all spots, but I will upload them when I record.