Snooker's match-fixing allegations | The difficulty with spotting outcome tampering in snooker
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- BBC journalist Shabnam Younus-Jewell joined Joe Molloy to discuss the match-fixing and betting allegations that have rocked the world of professional snooker.
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Stephen Lee 12 Years, John Higgins just suspended , when the sport was rocked by a report in the News of the World that alleged he had agreed to lose frames in four matches in return for £261,000 during a secretly recorded meeting in the Ukraine. But that's alright he only admitted "intentionally giving the impression to others that they were agreeing to act in breach of the betting rules" and failing to report the matter promptly to the governing body, World Snooker. SNOOKER HYPOCRISY.
Do some research.
John Higgins never fixed a match.
He was on camera "talking" about taking money to fix frames. But he never actually done it. He claimed he was just going along with it for fear of his life and never had any actual intention of going through with it. Stephen Lee was a totally different kettle of fish. It was PROVEN he fixed multiple games.
@@Paul-sl9zm You live in Alice in wonderland mate, " Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” What a fool you are !!!
Yeah. Higgins should have been treated worse than Stephen Lee was because there was no video of Lee TALKING about going to fix the match. Only proof of Lee cheating is a bunch of lousy shots that an average club player would have potted. Barry Hearns is the biggest crook in the snooker game. I really despise the guy. He gives of an aura of “ Fk you Jack, I’m the boss and what I say goes.” An arrogant jumped-up spiv that I wouldn’t trust to tell me the right time. Any pal of Hearns is an enemy of mine and that’s why I can’t stand Steve Davis. Ronnie O’Sullivan despises Hearns too and that’s why I am a huge Ronnie fan. Get rid of Hearns and all the fixed matches will disappear overnight.
@@Paul-sl9zmAre you for real? You know nothing about the game or else you wouldn’t come out with such trash talk.
@@thetruthisbest6348. Great reply mate. Read my comment above.
John Higgins is the godfather of snooker match fixing.
I’d say Steven lee takes first spot
Higgins is a rat should b banned as long as lee
@@user-if1de8pt2j but he agreed to. If the outcome was the real Russian Mafia, he would have followed through with his agreement. Guilty , as if he actually did it. When you agree to murder someone and agree to accept money for it... Doesn't matter if it was a set up. You go to jail. That's the law.
Snooker, sponsored by Gambling Companies. Not a problem at all though apparently.
Benson and Hedges have probably done less harm than the gambling companies. I know smoking is bad, m’kay? but gambling rips families apart and destroys so many lives - when the fun stops, stop? That is all they need to say to clear themselves.
I absolutely despise gambling and feel sorry for anyone caught up in it.
snooker is run off gambling,they support the game.
I am a fan of snooker but this aint justice this type of public enquiry condems them in the public eye before they had a cance to prove innocence or otherwise .....end of the day it happens in every sport and anyone ripping off betting companies in match fixing aint that bad. People can call them cheats and call for them to be banned for life. Another way to look at it is these are betting compnies who mostly use offshore tax avoidence in their own business setups and who's business causes such addiction that ruins lives worldwide and causes suicides deppression and all manner of MH problems in people. So might be a different view but I view these types more like a robin hood than a robber.
I see your point of view but being public and upfront about these things brings transparency to the whole process and rightfully so. I agree with you that it surely happens in other sports but that isn't an excuse to turn a blind eye. Regarding betting companies I agree also they can ruin lives but two wrongs dont make a right. Lastly they wouldn't have done this if they didn't have pretty good evidence against them.
So until more details come out, you are guessing.
If he is suspected of match fixing there is absolutely no way he should or could be allowed play in competitive tournaments. Actually think about that. It'd be absolutely ludicrous.
Innocent until proven guilty and really shouldn't be suspended. If they find these guys innocent are they going to pay the winnings they would've won?
(Assuming there has been match fixing) - This isn't just about ripping off a betting company. Any given betting company might even have profitted out of it, depends on the specific odds and how much was bet with them on each player in each respective match that was fixed - fixing a match does not necessarily mean the betting companies end up paying more out.
How about the people who placed bets? They were ripped off too when the person they bet to win threw the game. How about the viewing public who paid to watch a match that was not a fixed farce? Your argument justifies criminal activity when it's against a company you don't like, that leaves a wide scope for people to be corrupt when they decide it is okay and simply ignores all the other people who lost money; the public. It brings the sport into disrepute, it is criminal, immoral, and it has caused innocent people to lose money.
Match fixing is not some kindly stance against the "bad" betting companies as you suggest. Match fixing is a criminal organisation (that almost certainly is involved in multiple criminal activities) ensuring it wins money by betting on the one who isn't throwing the match (winning money at the expense of the public). It is about ensuring a criminal gang makes money, you think this brings some good to the world? I don't see how you can justify it.
They can get away with it quite easily, it's not just missing shots, that's the most obvious method, the more subtle method is to just slowly drop out of position until the next shot is untenable and then just play a safety. There are MANY subtle ways of throwing a match so that NO ONE would be aware.
Uh huh, I wonder how many frames/matches have actually been fixed, yet we are none the wiser
They get caught because tens of thousands possibly hundreds of thousands are placed on one correct score in one snooker match , which sets alarms ringing at betting shop offices. The betting firms then contact the snooker board
Why you not mentioned john Higgins
Higgins is a cheat. This has nothing to do with John Higgins.
I believe that 'bet in play' is the real problem. Two low ranked players can arrange a match of best of seven to go 3-0 either way, the odds of a comeback to 3-3 would be quite high, so bets laid on that and a good return for either player to then win 4-3. So two players can arrange a match to go 3-3 and then play the decider for real in order to get better money than nothing for losing a first round match which is the case in snooker right now.
Pay for travel and accomodation, food, practise time and then get nothing if you lose, that 20,00 wage for the first year means nothing for a first timer pressured by losing their first three first round matches.
When you watch the match against John Higgins that Stephen Lee was accused of throwing it's impossible to see which shots he deliberately missed in order to lose as both he and John Higgins were crap that day, the only evidence came from betting companies that decided that there were unusual betting patterns around that/those matches. When one considers that the owner of bet365 makes a million pounds a day, that's the owner/CEO not the whole company, then a couple of hundred/thousand here and there around a few snooker matches is chicken feed.
It might well be chicken feed to the owner of the betting company company. But to the thousands of people who bet on the match and lost their money it might well not be!
@@user-if1de8pt2j £250k in 1 second (presumably all on the same result?) That would be a little bit suspicious !!
I don't know if betting companies can simply refuse bets after accepting them - is that legal?
WHAT ABOUT JOHN HIGGINS, HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE,BARRY HEARNES LOVE CHILD THATS HOW HE GOT OFF
John higgins was innocent he didn't do anything he just didn't report it about being bribed.
BS, Higgins didn't fix any matches, he just agreed to fix one.
@@johnmc3862 under duress - allegedly. And NOTW was a nefarious paper. Entrapment doesn't apply in the law.
What about Higgins he served his time.
@@johnmc3862 what's the difference?
British racism
When they knew that the Chinese were coming to defeat them in their country and in their game, they made the suspension action.
But even if they Suspended all Chinese players today, more will come.
No domination for Britain
Like Huawei, geopolitics is slowing creeping into british snooker world under the pretext of national security threats... lol
Ronnie spoke about this in a way last year players aren't getting paid enough and are having to fork out money for accommodation, fees, personal practice time when giving an interview on the bbc, the question was would you tell your kid or youngsters to grow up and play snooker. Of course its gonna happen Barry Hearn & Steve Dawson should have looked after them more but no that didn't happen, I'm sorry your pride honour and self respect get fkn battered if your not getting paid correctly. Gone have the days of £147k for 147 Ronnie showed by not finishing the game/frame/years ago. It's not the players fault it's the bsted above them.
In September this year, WST chairman Steve Dawson announced a new financial structure to the game. This system means that all 130 players currently on the WST will be gtd £20k for the 22/23 season which offers security.
The first payment was made in September (10k) with the second due in January. Its not a lot but its a good start from WST.
Cant believe Yan has been implicated in this. With gambling being a billion dollor industry in China, unfortunately the evidence shows up with all the Asians going crooked.
Its a scourge in the game, one which Jason Ferguson is trying to stamp out.
@@hammeredprawn490 Barry Hearn is no longer WST chairman.
It's all about 'wot Ronnie sed'...
Ronnie also talked about too many player not good enough to be on the tour
Professional snooker is all about entertaining the punters. How many players do we need to provide the entertainment? Just a handful really, twenty tops.
Think about it this way, how many punters are gonna travel to a venue and pay to watch World Number 67 play World Number 54? The seats will be empty with no cash coming in. Where does the money come from to pay these two mid-ranked players?
Snooker is in crisis for the sake of inclusion. Reanne Evans is a 12 time world champion. She has a career high break of 108 and 2 career centuries. That's absolutely atrocious. Snooker is not a sport where biology might get in the way of women performing as well as men. But for the sake of inclusion and money in the women's game not being enough, Barry hearn is will to lower the standards and make the game weaker. That's not misogynistic, its brutal facts.
So its scripted? So what ? We all know Pro Wrestling is scripted too !!
WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAP????
Hello sir, I heard about a Chinese group that sells fixed matches, do you know about this
Perhaps the snookee authorities were alerted by the bookies when there were some suspicious betting patterns occuring.
The snooker authorities are the biggest bookies lol
betting on them selfs is not match fixing, i would bet money on a player that puts money on himself, but if a guy puts money on who hes playing thats match fixing.
@@ELDuderino597 Then that is a totally different issue. I'd bet on myself if I had the confidence I can beat my opponent. That should be legal but once you involve anyone else, other than the bookie, you should be dealt with on a case by case basis.
Might not be, he could be betting on the other player as insurance , if he wins himself, great, if he loses, he’s bet on the other guy, so , it’s win , win
Kimberlee betting on yourself is TOTALLY wrong.As a cheat can arrange with his opponent so
Either one of them wins or loses this would then be very difficult to prove cheating had taken place.
@@ELDuderino597 well then the loser gets the suspension, you cant charge some one that wins the match,thats not fixing.
@@johndean4765 betting on the other guy is cheating,because you can make sure he wins, betting on yourself just insures the honesty in the game,
Has anyone listened to Shabnam snooker pod Framed? Shes excellent
Pretty much all the matches are rigged, but only Chinese players are targeted.
Let's face it the Chinese love a gamble its in there blood just check the casinos.
It's very easy to spot wildly unexpected misses, which is how matches routinely get fixed. That or a poor break-off shot. It's much more difficult to prove malfeasance, as you need evidence of material transactions taking place.
It's as Higgins said in his infamous sting - it doesn't even need to be a missed shot, it can be a slightly misjudged positional shot and you don't have a way to continue a break. Then you misjudge a safety shot the length of the table and your opponent has a chance to win the frame. How do you prove that someone made that mistake on purpose, given how hard the game is and how much pressure there is on some of these shots?
To lose a match deliberately there is no need to make "wildly unexpected misses". Just the occasional poor position from a pot or a missed long or slightly difficult pot - which you might miss anyway - it would not be at all obvious.
Bringing the game into disrepute like this, doesn't matter who you are, if you're guilty of match-fixing, you should be banned for life. All the very top players are vastly experienced, they know inside out they would never do anything like betting on matches. You would have thought having Stephen Lee & a few others in the same situation as this, no other player would have dared to even think of doing such a thing. But that's my opinion, get found out, banned for life, then it should stop other pros going down the same route.
Ok so if you're approached by international criminal gang that tells you to dump a match by a certain score or they will kill you and your family, you wouldn't consider doing it?
Judd Trump's comments about the situation is a lot closer to the mark to what I believe is going on and the decisions by the WPBSA is a classic example of what Barry Hearn said about cuesports organisations that are run by blazers that aren't in touch with the real world and this situation of players being suspended during an investigation, is too much of a "Guilty until proven innocent", when it should be the other way around.
The WPBSA could do more in their efforts to deter players from getting involved in this scourge. Instead of telling players to not get involved and report any approach, they should take the proactive approach and hold regular anti corruption seminars, so that there is no grey area. Education is best and the likes of Stephen Lee and Jamie Jones should be used by the snooker in this journey, to let everyone know, if your involved in crooked dealings you will be outed.
@@WillieDines1 That's what so many here aren't even considering. It's not that hard to make someone do something they're no happy about. Until all the facts come out I think they should be treated as they always have. They are fantastic talent, great entertainers and most of all, human, just like the rest of us.
@@whodouthinkuare It's not a matter of them being unsure of the rules or, like you say, a "grey area". The implications at the moment are that strong coercion could be the issue.
Players would never bet on matches, what would happen is that they would be paid somehow or other so that others who did place bets would be guaranteed to win.
Match fixing is as old as the hills. This is just the tip of what's going on, in any sport.
😂& THE big white elephant that people would LOVE to omit, say, the most come back from “BRINK OF whitewashed “ how many player’S” have done that trick!? Over & over again~ if that does not raise eyebrows, then , there is no such thing as match fixInG🎉
There's apparently more money in snooker now that Hearn runs it. Why are the bulk of professionals living on subsistence wages??? Ronnie earnt 400k on average every year and he's the main draw!! Just 400k for the best player ever! These lower ranked players don't make the average wage and might as well be postmen
HOW DO YOU THINK HEARNS GOT WHERE HE IS ?... BRIBES AND BACK HANDERS ?!?... HE'S STILL GO HIS FIRST PAY PACKET... (Unopened)
Hes playing snooker fs
Snooker gets far more money in and offers far more in prizes since Hearn took over. BUT Snooker is a minority sport and the money is way below what Football, Golf, Tennis etc earn.
I’m hav a enormous like for snooker outstanding game one of the best top 10. Gambling playing cards it no a sport first of all! When you get caught that should be automatic dismissal ! Here’s a example Pete Rose baseball player caught betting on baseball teams! He was banded from baseball and cannot be inducted into the hall of fame. The baseball hall a fame is located in Cooperstown , New York , United States. They will not vote him in because of his gambling on baseball. This baseball player has #1 in hits 4,256 the closes is #2
TY Cobb 4,189 and #3 Hank Aron very talented baseball players. So he’s banned it’s not gonna happen. When you get caught or don’t get caught has to different meanings. Getting caught means no soup for you from Seinfeld. Not getting caught well this explains it flying around in a $65,000,000 private jet is only one. I’ll say it one more time gambling is not a sport it’s a Addiction
just like drugs and alcohol. That should not be on television that’s a major virus to families.
Anyone knows the Chinese like to gamble and it wouldn’t surprise me if these young lads have maybe been forced in some way by someone or a group taking advantage of their vulnerability being so far from home and adapting to life in a different culture and not having the right people around them.
Definitely they have heavy investments behind them these investors want there money back ASAP
Were these players from the same camp or different ones? I can’t find the interviews anymore where O’Sullivan, Trump, and others talk about which of the young Chinese players are in their respective training camps.
Very funny...most of the sponsors of this game are money bet creator and making profit people give bet from this game ..they should ban any money betting sponsorship...
Jan Bingtao a high snooker player involved in match - fixing allegations ???? what about Steven Lee and john Higgins??????
Do not softball this!!! MENTION JOHN HIGGINS!!
I believe this sport has been fixed for years, new comers against old hands, same manager, let the new man win to get him known. Anyone who says it has not been going on, and think this is a gentleman's sport needs to wake up
these players ranked outside top 32 are doing this to make money what they cant win in tournaments. the prize money is fine if you stay in top 16 for 10yrs.
ding junhui spearheaded chinesse snooker please get your facts right before making such statements
the chinese player and athletes are paid a wage to play from ccp, any winnings are just a bonus
Tip of the iceberg……..
Wait. There innocent until proven guilty. This discussion implies there guilty
Orders from Xi Jinping. You read it here first. 🤔😂😂😂😂😂
I bet someone has bin threatening his family back in China the poor lad
John Higgins was the biggest potential match fixer of them all and he got away with a paltry fine and 6 months ban-why wasnt he banned for life?
Because there wasn't evidence that he actually threw any matches?
Exactly Philip. As soon as I saw the video of Higgins and his manager talking about throwing a frame , even to undercover newspaper reporters I immediately thought , why has he not been banned for life? I wonder if he was allowed to continue because of his high profile in the game?
You're a thicko
I didn't know this about Higgins! That's crazy! Is there a specific match I can look up to see where he was accused?
One of the Sunday newspapers exposed Higgins and his manager when 2 of their investigative journalists posed as, I think, Russian criminals, and got him to talk about losing a frame for a large amount of money. He seemed genuinely keen and said it would pay his mortgage. If you google Higgins and match fixing on UA-cam you will probably gfind the clip.
what about jhon
I bet on snooker... I want all of them BANNED 🚫
Obviously they're not getting paid enough.
bet on ronnie who says he dont care if he wins or not,
The Chinese culture embrace betting like no other. Go to a casino late at night. Where there’s money in large amounts there’s bound to be pressure put on players.
True - they will bet on anything.
How about not gambling? That would take match fixing out of the equation
You mean banning gambling? That might be difficult!
$100 this all blows over in 30 days!
When I saw the video of John Higgins discussing match fixing I couldn't believe he didn't get a life ban afterwards. Did he ever offer any sort of explanation about that video?
he paid 75k in pounds as a fine
His explanation as I recall was that he did not know that match fixing was the purpose of the meeting, and that when he was there in the moment and understood what was being discussed he agreed without meaning it, simply to get out of the situation without causing any escalation or threats to him etc. So basically his defence was he agreed under duress, never intending to go through with it, to escape the situation he had found himself in. Whether you believe that is of course up to you.
@@AleaIactaEst2009 Well said that's exactly how he explained it.I have my doubts about that but he has went on to bigger and better things so hope fully Bingtao is cleared as I love to watch him play.
Brian Griffin Higgins said he agreed to fix a match as he said he was in fear of his life.I don't believe this as you clearly hear him ask if there's any camera's in the room.Also from his demeanour he did not look at all worried in fact you can see he's smiling and stress free,
@@johndean4765 absolutely!!
In the coming years the sport of Snooker will primarily be played out of Asia. The players from Asia will dominate just like they did in the sport of Womens Golf for example due to the work ethic that they possess and the fact that they even have University Scholarships available and they have hundreds of Clubs as opposed to what the rest of the World has available for young players. Snooker has almost zero appeal in North America while Pool is still very popular. It's not surprising that betting manipulation is being carried out due to the lack of prize money for the lower ranked players and the high cost of World travel/Accomodations etc. but that still does not excuse what is potentially happening here by any means. Any Corruption must be weeded out and appropriate punishment given to those involved which includes not only the Players but the handlers as well. A short suspension will not be enough to halt what is going on though!!!
Snooker lost 99% of its appeal in Canada when they stopped letting the players smoke and drink at the table...
@@butler-macdonald8351 lol.
Ronnie at 80 would still beat any of "chinas golden generation”
@@butler-macdonald8351 Snooker lost its' appeal for many reasons and will unlikely recover. Previous failings by the governing body are coming home to roost. Quite often, the gov' bodies are corrupt to start with.
@@CosmicKnight369 It truly is a shame and even watching games that you know were fixed, it's impossible to pick the shots involved. It's no doubt the same in every sport, in one form or another. When you sit and watch and see how the players are so honest on the table (calling fouls on themselves, ball placement, etc), to see this happen is disappointing. No doubt been happening for a very long time but now someone got nabbed. Need to wait for the evidence and final decisions, hoping that the investigation is thorough and fair.
All he has to do is say he was forced to do it by gangsters that is what Higgins did.
Samuel sad thing is lots of gullible people believed the Higgins defence so he did get away with the cheating charge .Was fined for not reporting this but as he's worth at least £10 million the fine is no problem to him.
They find out through betting companies love
I thought Liang Wenbo's case was unrelated... I didn't hear anything about him match fixing.
Initially Wenbo was banned for four months after he was convicted of a serious assault on a female in Sheffield in July last year. Then in October just before Wenbo was due to play in the English Open, he was informed by WPBSA officials that he was banned from competing or attending sanctioned events. At the time the WPBSA said it due to "allegations of misconduct".
More recently fellow chinese player Chang Bingyu, one of five suspended last week, admitted to match fixing in a post on Chinese social media, further claiming to be threatened and intimidated by Wenbo.
Liang should be banned forever after hitting and dragging a woman across the floor disgusting behaviour
@@selinadean5824 i know he's a sicko but the latest allegations are bad news for him.
@@whodouthinkuare good he deserves it so unfair he gets to play snooker on tv and another man out their deserve a chance instead of this horrible liang who clearly doesn’t appreciate it at all and just a horrible human being
We Wenbo attacked a woman is the allegation.If guilty should be banned for life but I expect they'll let him back to play soon.
Betting on yourself sounds OK at first only make you play your best.. then I thought,, would that result in one of your friends putting pressure on the other guy to lose,,,,,,then you have the ''let the better player go through to the final'' problem or a crowd puller go through if he is having a bad day,,,,,so many things can happen,,,,,betting on the final score is another way to work it.Then to make things even worse if a player misses an easy one does that make him worry about what people will think.
Every time Higgins misses, I wonder if he really did. Every. Single. Time.
@@ghuff31 thanks for the reply ,,,,The other Higgins [Alex] ranted about how bent the game was in his drunken state ,,,,I always remember that and it goes back a long way and involves many other sports.
What about John Higgins?!! 😒
who was proven to fixing matches, i didn't know snooker was racist Barry Hearn that was shame 😞
Snooker will go the way of wiff waff I tell you 🙃
I cannot believe yan has done this he’s won the masters and got to another big final why yan? I believe there is more to this he’s to good and making to much to be throwing over .. he’s the youngest player for a long time with the all round game and the nerve to upset the ship… I couldn’t care less about wenbo he was up there and he was good for the game but when he got caught hitting a women in Sheffield that was it for me
He is barely a man. He is so young and inexperienced in life, so naive; a chump of easy pickings.
Done what? What has Yan done?
Exactly! You don't know.
He's currently under suspension pending an investigation. Let's wait until the investigation is completed. It could very well be a minor scandal such as not reporting an "approach" to fix a match.
@@Paul-sl9zm I didn’t say he has done it if you read it correctly so get back under your stone
Let me chuck this into the equation.
How about this,when you talk about corruption and match fixing etc,why is it that when ronnie plays,wether he's defending the title,and rightly so gets the easier side of the draw or number 1 or ranked nbr 32 ,why HAS he always had the easier side of the draws,wether he's won the tournament before or not!!
Is it bcos the games flagging ?
because Ronnie IS the draw, when he's out attendance and viewership drops significantly I'm sure
Ronnie often Does get the easier draws .
@@johndean4765 you can't have the best players facing off ay the start of the tournament, that would be stupid, if other guys want the easier draws then simply become the world's number one then you'll get them
can you show instance when draw hasnt gone according to formula or blind draw?
dont worry john higgins only got a 6 month ban
Well geniegenious, I'm guessing the governing snooker body had a lot more information than you to make their decision. I'm glad you weren't on my jury!
what?!? people being people?!? really? again? to what gain?!? wow..... omg! :(
Why is everyone on about John Higgins, he took no money, he was never going to take money for losing frames, he was nervous of the people in that room and would have said anything to get out of there, he didn't report it because of fear of being there in the first place, a legend and always will be.
People make a lot of money off these players they don’t see any of it. Good a bookie got ripped off same way he gets ripped.
Stupidest thing I’ve read in a very long time. I hope you don’t have children
What about cricketers
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All sports have a problem with supporting themselves until you get to the big time like the last 16 survival of the fittest cudos to Barry Hearn for helping the lower ranked players financially. When the media interviews some of the top players in regards to this issue its easy for them to be righteous and I am sure that they are however I would like to hear some of lower ranked players perspective Judd Trump great interview didn't throw anyone under the bus. How about sending some of the lower ranked players out on exhibitions to the unexploited north America we are starving for the sport
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she is really wonderful
WHOS SHE ?!?!... WHAT DOES SHE KNOW ABOUT SNOOKER ?!?!.. WHY DO YOU WASTE TIME TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE THIS !!!!
Hello
Match fixing is rampant in pro sports be it soccer, NBA, NFL, Baseball, etc and legal, like deliberately losing in order to clinch the best draft prospects or easiest playoff spot.
9-0?
How comes Stephen Lee hasn't been given a break? He's done 10 year bann. I think it's a about time they let him come back. He did no different that what John Higgins done.
Spencer Lane ,whilst Stephen Lee was banned effectively for life Higgins gets 6months ban when during this time there's no ranking tournaments. It's clear on film he agreed to cheat but was astonishingly found not guilty. Higgins recently on TV that Lee should be welcomed back to snooker with open arms 'once he's served the time' .What a kind thought!!He knows very well that length of ban has destroyed Lee's career ,he himself got away with his plan to cheat .What a caring man.
12-year ban. He can return from 12 October 2024.
Yeah i think they sud let him try get his card again. But the flipside to that. What wud the ppl be shoutting in a semi final till him. Cud be bad for rhe sport ppl having pops from there seats.
ban them all for life they all had a choice they chose to cheat