SFV:CE How to improve at zoning (Fireball zoning and nontraditional zoning)

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @OdinStan
    @OdinStan 3 роки тому +56

    McMura - The hidden gem of the FGC.

    • @sergman94
      @sergman94 3 роки тому +2

      I swear, this guy and rooflemonger are doing it right.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you so much.

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    • @forestlouie7664
      @forestlouie7664 3 роки тому

      @Israel Tommy instablaster :)

    • @israeltommy3604
      @israeltommy3604 3 роки тому

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  • @MCMuraFGC
    @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +17

    I also wanted to add that Regarding Ryu, his forward dash/jump along with EX fireball are his best answers vs walk forward and block.

  • @iZonkGaming2021
    @iZonkGaming2021 3 роки тому +16

    Ahh I was hoping for some Sagat action out of you, can’t deny he is the most interesting zoner to watch right? Great video once again, I’m starting to show your videos to people for specific characters. You have something for every one, great job!

    • @phguitar23
      @phguitar23 3 роки тому +1

      Lol he's the most boring zoner to watch

    • @abdu5320
      @abdu5320 3 роки тому +1

      @@phguitar23 let's agree to disagree

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +1

      I find Sim to be the most fun zoner to watch personally but Sagat is certainly really cool as well. Thank you very much.

  • @jmarine28
    @jmarine28 3 роки тому +2

    FB traps!!! I knew you could bait the jump using lp.fb but baiting with a lp.bf+hp.fb (specially as corner pressure) is something new to me - so simple to understand too

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Glad you found it useful.

  • @Ggreen1122
    @Ggreen1122 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much on simplifying and giving a better explanation on ryu fireball game as a ryu main for years I’ve been scared of throwing them now I can use them for specific purposes!

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @420haxx
    @420haxx 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, i have played a lot of SF over the years but still didn't know about some of these fundamentals.

  • @dionrezario
    @dionrezario 3 роки тому +2

    thanks man! very useful. im just starting out playing shotos character.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Goodluck, shotos are super fun, who are you playing ?

  • @grasshopper30000
    @grasshopper30000 3 роки тому +4

    I definitely see why I am at the rank I’m in I never knew these facts

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Glad you found it helpful.

  • @returningwhisper
    @returningwhisper 3 роки тому +1

    Just wanted to say I love your videos, thank you for making these!

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Thanks very much, really appreciate it.

  • @Confudgius
    @Confudgius 3 роки тому +2

    You good sir are amazing, you'd make a great teacher

  • @hesrizen1519
    @hesrizen1519 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome upload!
    Your explaination in this video is clear and its super!

  • @feri7mble
    @feri7mble 3 роки тому +1

    Great video on a very interesting subject.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Thanks, it was really cool talking about it.

  • @freshprinceofnightcity
    @freshprinceofnightcity 3 роки тому +1

    Helpful indeed.

  • @facts-never-lies3160
    @facts-never-lies3160 3 роки тому +1

    Love it thank you .

  • @matkacp8880
    @matkacp8880 3 роки тому

    Great video King! Your videos made me soo much better at SF! Aslo 14:00 god i wish it was me ;0

  • @donmurowski9421
    @donmurowski9421 3 роки тому

    Awesome video, thanks for this

  • @Limit5482
    @Limit5482 3 роки тому +1

    We now nominate you the third Bird

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +1

      Officially in there ?

    • @Limit5482
      @Limit5482 3 роки тому

      @@MCMuraFGC you are now dubbed....MuraBird

  • @AsDeft
    @AsDeft 3 роки тому +1

    6:37 video on grappler mix ups maybe?

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      That's a really cool suggestion.

  • @co81385
    @co81385 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video! I think that this is one of the best videos, explanations, and demonstrations of the zoning game that I have seen!
    I have a question about zoning, and while I may have asked this question before, it is still something that I have trouble with. Say you throw a fireball or projectile, and your opponent doesn't respond by jumping over it or by trying to dash or advance forward. Instead, your opponent either backs up and just blocks the fireball, or neutral jumps it. What would be the best response?
    Also, I play Zeku, and I would consider Old Zeku to be a zoner more similar to Poison than Ryu. What would be Old Zeku's best way to combat someone who walks and block? He doesn't have something like EX Heart Raid or EX Yoga Fire.

    • @Ticketman99
      @Ticketman99 3 роки тому

      Watch the video.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +1

      So when they neutral jump, you will not be able to throw another one until the jumped on leaves the screen. This is pretty much them resetting the neutral/zoning trap game. However, if you happen to do the LP boom, you could use that to gain some ground and move forward.
      I would also think that Old Zeku is a bit like a weaker Poison. With him you can try to check with cr,MP and cr.MK as well as st.LK buffers. He doesn't have great ways to force plus frames unfortunately, i guess the trade off is that he gets a DP.

  • @vinicius464able
    @vinicius464able 3 роки тому +4

    I don't like fireball in this game, every character have it's own unique way to deal with it. Seth has the sweep, v-skill 1, axe kick and the spinning kick, to me it feels real difficult, high risk and low return, i tried before i found it not to be fun.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, fireball zoning is certainly difficult in SFV, you can do it, but you can't win just by doing it. Its like a battle phase, not really a consistent gameplan.

  • @protagonist52
    @protagonist52 2 роки тому

    i can throw a fireball, but i struggle understanding the space

  • @pav5971
    @pav5971 3 роки тому +1

    Ty for the video. Im descent at zoning. But alot of it was intuition. Does the same fireball stratergy apply to guile? I noticed sometimes i can anti air but other times i cant

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Certainly, Guile have an even better LP boom (His LP boom is even slower than Ryu's LP Fireball) His HP boom is a bit worse than Ryu's HP Hadouken though.

  • @lenneth1188
    @lenneth1188 3 роки тому +1

    What about medium fireball

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      You may use it every now and then just to throw off their temp but it doesn't have a strategic use like LP and HP

  • @fluox_etina2201
    @fluox_etina2201 2 роки тому

    guile's zoning changes in comparison to ryu's?

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Рік тому

    Ooh zoning

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator 3 роки тому +2

    Heard it, immediately had to test it:
    It takes 110 ten normal Ryu fireballs to bring Ryu's health to 1
    Also, it takes 75 blocked Ryu sweeps to turn his entire healthbar gray.

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      I am kinda proud of my math on the fly then lmao, saw the FB doing 10 chip, Ryu have 1025 HP so i just thought it would be over a 100 to chip him out.
      But man, 110, that kinda sucks.

  • @vg4917
    @vg4917 2 роки тому

    lately i just go back and throw them cause people will mess up and get hit. its free damage

    • @vg4917
      @vg4917 2 роки тому

      then they get annoyed and predictable

  • @supermarioz5
    @supermarioz5 3 роки тому +1

    where did you find that poison mod :O

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      this is a mod by www.patreon.com/Leonaura/posts

  • @grasshopper30000
    @grasshopper30000 3 роки тому +1

    Will you be playing gg strive

    • @MCMuraFGC
      @MCMuraFGC  3 роки тому

      Yeah, i am planning to try it out.

  • @vg4917
    @vg4917 2 роки тому

    all this is reversed w nash.