Cargo Hauler Showdown: Cutty Black vs C1 Spirit in Star Citizen 3.24

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2025
  • Comparing small to medium cargo haulers in Star Citizen 3.24 including C1 Spirit, Cutlass Black and Freelancer. Which one is the right cargo hauler for you.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 62

  • @GrunfWorks
    @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

    Cargo Hauling getting started guide: ua-cam.com/video/fOIeOlEYD0s/v-deo.html

  • @graphite7473
    @graphite7473 4 місяці тому +6

    In the C1 you use the ship tractor beam to stuff it full, because you don't need to get out before you drop the cargo off anyway.

  • @Electrocus
    @Electrocus 4 місяці тому +9

    Also I’m pretty sure the Freelancers rear manned turret is inaccessible when the cargo area is completely full, making the turret useless.

    • @schlagzahne6741
      @schlagzahne6741 4 місяці тому +1

      You can reach it. Sadly that turret hinders room for additional cargo grid space.
      They should make it remote

  • @qutatron
    @qutatron 4 місяці тому +6

    Imho: C1 is better hauler, Cutty is better daily driver, but overall this is a close competition, and thats very good. We need more variety, more choices in the verse.

    • @LeftJoystick
      @LeftJoystick 3 місяці тому +1

      The Cutty GUZZLES hydrogen fuel, which immediately makes it less attractive, sadly.

    • @qutatron
      @qutatron 3 місяці тому +2

      @@LeftJoystick Yes. Hydrogen consumption is a biggest downside of Cutty. I wish one day we get explorer variant with radar, toilet, and bigger fuel tank, something like cutter rambler but Cutlass.

    • @LeftJoystick
      @LeftJoystick 3 місяці тому +1

      @@qutatron Definitely. An exploration Cutlass would be awesome!

  • @Chase_The_Calm_Gaming
    @Chase_The_Calm_Gaming 4 місяці тому +1

    C1 you can lock the door and use the tractor beam. If someone comes on they have to work to get to you.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      Huh i never thought about it. Will try it. Thx

    • @Random_Banshee
      @Random_Banshee 4 місяці тому +4

      Should honestly be able to tractor people with ship tractor beam, imagine just grabbing a pirate out of your cargo hold and yeeting them skyward at a fine velocity. Then again if you‘re carrying cargo, can always just smack em with a box.

  • @mattstephen7494
    @mattstephen7494 4 місяці тому +1

    Very good guide. I was just thinking what my next upgrade should be. Especially enjoyed your rant on the Freelancer. One thing you may have missed is the Freelancer has 3 size 2 shields vs the Cutty and C1's 1 size 2. It sorta makes up for the terrible speed but not sure if it's a worthy tradeoff.

  • @CoffeeContractor
    @CoffeeContractor 3 місяці тому

    What I did is I bought a c1 on the pledge store and used the tractor beam on it for cargo until I had money to buy a 19k max lift gun. It definitely helped me out. I wish they added the tractor beam back to the cutty black before I bought the c1. C1 is a very fast cargo hauler and is a great ship for that.

  • @Blurksel
    @Blurksel 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video.. coming from a Avenger Titan but want to step up to a medium ship. And this video was very helpful. I will have to look around a bit more, but i think i'll get me the C1; beside of the pretty look, the armor and weapon racks / kitchen / bath and beds makes it feel more real as you could live there whilst getting your job done. And isn't it that somewhere in the future there will be the need for bathing/cleaning? Well.. sold! ^^ -- The 'sympathy points from pirates' to the end got me cracking up. Thank you for this!

    • @Pixx3l
      @Pixx3l 4 місяці тому

      got the C1 when it was still in concept and finally got it last Nov 23'.. Its my favorite daily driver up to this date. Just the right size for my needs. I do cargo hauling mainly.

  • @Dharamkali3986
    @Dharamkali3986 3 місяці тому +1

    le soucis, c'est que le cutty et le Freelancer sont de conception d'avant la 3.00. Ces vaisseaux devraient être passé en MKII et refait entièrement. La tourelle devrait être automatisée et donnée au copilote ( ce qui est demandé depuis des années par la communauté) , et une douche toilette devrait prendre la place du siège. Il faut un coin cuisine et virer l'armement de la cabine pour le mettre en soute. Enfin, que le pilote et copilote se partage le remote turret.

    • @soleenzo893
      @soleenzo893 2 місяці тому

      le pire c'est que le cutty et lancer sont DEJA des V2 ahaha. donc passerait à la V3 lol. non mais en vrai, onle voit avec les nouveaux ship, ils sortent de nouveaux mediums mieux conçus pmais avec des morceaux de bad design pour les nerfs et gardzer en ligne avec le cutlass et freelancer (portes trop étroites dans le C1 et Zeus, 1 seule sortie dans le C1, cargo grid à la forme inutilisable dans lees Zeus etc)

  • @pxkqd
    @pxkqd 4 місяці тому

    C1 is best, but to make it optimal you want a copilot to quickly use the tractor beam. Just line it up with the elevator and use the on board beam to move everything.

  • @Pappy_1775
    @Pappy_1775 4 місяці тому +1

    Hopefully, with a rework, the Freelancer will dump the middle cargo area and most likely get rid of the extra two seats to put something else in that area. To be honest, a rework extending the cargo area and deleting the two seats and two beds may just give it a 72 scu cargo capacity. The same rework for the Freelancer Max would allow it to go from 120 scu to maybe 130? One thing you didn't bring up (maybe I missed it) is what most people do not like about the Freelancer series is their tiny FOV front windshield. CIG has already hinted at changing that, giving the Freelancers a more Hull A windshield appearance. Oh, I forgot the other thing people hate about the Freelancer. It looks like a flying dilQUACKdo.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      Rework sounds nice 👍

  • @jimmmybacon9043
    @jimmmybacon9043 14 днів тому

    why are you not using any of the ship tractor beams

  • @scotttracy6388
    @scotttracy6388 2 місяці тому

    I wish the spirit had a larger ramp to fit an ursa. If it had the components l reversed to the other door in the middle of the ship that would make sence for a bigger ramp and when component repairs are needed the air lock is closer to the middle then at the end of the ship.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  2 місяці тому

      @@scotttracy6388 same issue as with zeus CL

  • @Dingbat1967
    @Dingbat1967 4 місяці тому

    You guys need to try the Hull-A. 64 SCUs, all external ... makes loading and unloading the ship a breeze. Also it's considered small size so it fits even in a small hangar.
    Hull-A can carry 4 x 16 SCU boxes or 8 x 8 SCU etc ...

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      How does it fare with 2 or 1 SCU. Do they fit or not at all ? Also do you know how much Hull A costs as a rental ? Its not available in Port Tressler but maybe in Loreville ?

    • @Dingbat1967
      @Dingbat1967 4 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks It is fine with small boxes as well. Don't know the rental price. It is one of the cheapest cargo ships tho.

    • @Dingbat1967
      @Dingbat1967 4 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks Let me know if you want to try it - I can loan you mine (ingame name: InnocentBystandard)

  • @sheikhmustafeedhahmed4951
    @sheikhmustafeedhahmed4951 2 місяці тому

    I lost the spirit c1 from the asop terminal in 3.24.2. And now the ship is also not showing in Crusader Showroom. So I lost the ship and I cannot also buy another one. Wow thank you CIG. 😢😢

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  2 місяці тому

      Yea, as you probably noticed, I have paused creating Star Citizen content for a week or 2 just till the 3.24.2 stabilizes a bit. It is just too buggy at the moment. Was it an in-game bought ship or a store ship ? I imagine it cant be a store ship, right ?

    • @sheikhmustafeedhahmed4951
      @sheikhmustafeedhahmed4951 2 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks yes it's a in game bought ship.

  • @bootchoo96
    @bootchoo96 4 місяці тому +1

    Can't wait to see the Zeus CL

  • @willgraham9867
    @willgraham9867 2 місяці тому

    good in depth analysis of some iconic star citizen ships in comparison to the new one under the latest conditions.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  2 місяці тому +1

      Thx. In retrospect I should add the Hull-A which given the simplicity of cargo on and off has surprised me a bit to be honest :-) There is always next video i guess.

  • @ronelicabandi9706
    @ronelicabandi9706 4 місяці тому

    Lol why not have both. Sometimes when I am bored I take this 2 to do ERT missions. It takes longer but with the adrenaline kick due to both ships being fragile makes it more fun.

  • @Kiwi_Dave
    @Kiwi_Dave 4 місяці тому

    Cutlass Black only ship you need does everything well. Even ERT bounties.

  • @pelvist
    @pelvist 4 місяці тому

    Prefer the Cutty black personally, except the tractor beam doesn't work.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      Hopefully they will fix it soon

  • @st1v1w0nd3r
    @st1v1w0nd3r 4 місяці тому

    When did they change the freelancers pilot weapons to only turrets? That suck bawls.

  • @FrozenKnight21
    @FrozenKnight21 4 місяці тому

    Kinda wondering why the MSR, connie, and hull A were not on this list?

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      Hull A by omission, MSR and Connie are in higher tier imo. Together with freelancer max and the likes. They are 100+ and more expensive. I light be covering those later

    • @FrozenKnight21
      @FrozenKnight21 4 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks I've always considered the Connie to be in the same tier as the Freelancer, granted I did consider that to be a tier above the cutlass black.
      I'm starting to see some grey areas here. Maybe we need to come together as a community and define what qualifications are needed for each tier. Especially, with the Zeus on the horizon.

  • @svgPhoenix
    @svgPhoenix 4 місяці тому

    good info, very dense. a+
    edit: also made me laugh a few times

  • @dutchguysgaming2008
    @dutchguysgaming2008 4 місяці тому

    I like the looks of the c1, but those side doors on the cutty make it nicer to load. Thus the better hauler. Tractor beam though nice is not a dealbreaker for me. Personally i got the zeus mk2 with having a 2nd entrance seems to have good overloading capabilities but i will reconsidder when it finally gets released in 4.0 hope it turns out right.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      What is the capacity of that one at least on paper ?

  • @nabihlakkis562
    @nabihlakkis562 3 місяці тому

    It has a lockable door.

  • @fg1110
    @fg1110 4 місяці тому +1

    Short story C1 wins until the new RSI ship comes out

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      U mean Zeus ? Isn’t it more competitor to MAX ? How much SCU should that one carry ?

    • @vasiliostsiolis6905
      @vasiliostsiolis6905 4 місяці тому

      ​@@GrunfWorksZeus MK2 will be a medium freighter, I believe it will be in the same category as these ones. Now I don't recall regular scu but the CL variant will have 128 SCU, which is very impressive.

  • @TENGILL
    @TENGILL 4 місяці тому

    I am going to be running in a Hull-A and a Hull-B when that is out.
    I just hope they change the cargo loading system back to the old version.
    This new one is not fun gameplay and i think it will only be fun the first few times.
    After that, every serious hauler is going to use the automated loading option.

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому +1

      I am actually liking loading manually. Even bigger loads. Its quite chill. I would oike some trolleys though

    • @mattstephen7494
      @mattstephen7494 4 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks i love the manual loading. It's not changing back

  • @seotenin
    @seotenin 4 місяці тому

    While the freelancer needs love from CIG,… I would take it over a cutty any day

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      Really ? Care to elaborate, as I am really interested. It felt really bad to me, sadly, although I don't hate the design (MAX is pretty cool) but felt way to inferior to the rest of the bunch. So I am really curious :-)

    • @seotenin
      @seotenin 4 місяці тому

      @@GrunfWorks
      Flown the Cutty many times, engines fall off, the pilot seat tries to kill you
      Then for immersion, you can’t live on a Cutty, no shower, toilet or kitchen amenities.

  • @stratcat3216
    @stratcat3216 4 місяці тому +1

    hauler? C1 all the way.

  • @SolracJ88
    @SolracJ88 4 місяці тому +1

    Raft to stay afloat XD

  • @rogerkoch1971
    @rogerkoch1971 4 місяці тому

    no 32 scu at outposts

  • @cutenekonep906
    @cutenekonep906 4 місяці тому

    Controversial choice i like the hullA

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      I don't have it, but maybe will give it a try see how it feels

    • @cutenekonep906
      @cutenekonep906 4 місяці тому

      Its really slow when on a planet but i like how fast i unload and load it up, and i just like the hull series of ships, the look and the whole outside cargo grid thing

    • @GrunfWorks
      @GrunfWorks  4 місяці тому

      @@cutenekonep906 yea i tried to test it yesterday but it seems turning in cargo is a bit broken now