Dune - Doug Reviews
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2021
- Scifi nerds rejoice, Dune is back on the big screen! Is it what fans and newcomers have been looking for?
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Dune (titled onscreen as Dune: Part One) is a 2021 American epic science fiction film directed by Denis Villeneuve with a screenplay by Jon Spaihts, Villeneuve, and Eric Roth. It is the first of a planned two-part adaptation of the 1965 novel of the same name by Frank Herbert, primarily covering the first half of the book, and is the second film adaptation of the novel following David Lynch's 1984 film. Set in the far future, it follows Paul Atreides, as he and his family, the noble House Atreides, are thrust into a war for the dangerous desert planet Arrakis, between the native Fremen people and the enemy invaders, the House Harkonnen. The film stars an ensemble cast including Timothée Chalamet, Rebecca Ferguson, Oscar Isaac, Josh Brolin, Stellan Skarsgård, Dave Bautista, Stephen McKinley Henderson, Zendaya, David Dastmalchian, Chang Chen, Sharon Duncan-Brewster, Charlotte Rampling, Jason Momoa, and Javier Bardem.
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Brad Durif was in Blade? I thought you meant Steven Dorf.
nah man. this was a perfect film. yeah, you can complain about how it was just a first part and needed more, but it was beautiful. it took the material that is... just... much, and made it more than simply consumable. it was inspiring and among the most beautiful movies ive ever seen. a lot of your negative criticisms are judging this as a complete film and not a part of a series. i can already feel this as something that will be seen as far exceeding the lotr trilogy
i just finished your review and at no point, or maybe i missed it, but at no point to you describe just how beautiful the cinematography is. this director is a master in his own right and achieving something that will be legendary in years to come and you dont even mention it.
The movie was Good very upset that this is going to be a two-parter but if you watch this movie you have to go to the movie theaters. I had to watch it on HBO max but the sound was terrible I have a good set up to watch movies at home this is the first movie ever I had to put on subtitles because My friends and I could barely understand anyone most of the time I heard mumbling did anyone else have that problem it was like interstellar all over again but at home Visually stunning but you can’t hear (censored)!!!
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This is one that should have been a sibling rivalry just to hear Rob's thoughts on Dune as a whole since he's got all the books on his bookshelf
I miss sibling rivalry
Why did they stop?
@@MrFoolD covid? 🤷🏽♀️
This
@@samanthanickson6478 ya but don't they still do skits for the Nostalgia Critic? There all together
"I'm glad they got a boy to play Paul in this one." Timothée Chalamet is 25! 🤣
Well, someone who at least looked young. ;)
First of all: He looks like a highschooler.
Second: How old was he, when they filmed it?
For all intents and purposes, it's fair to call him a boy.
Agreed, they did a good job of making him look like a boy and he did a good job of acting like one.
@@bryanguidohassin I'm glad we agree that calling him a boy is accurate ^^.
He definitely looked the part and he looks far too young for his age
There's a reason this film looks a lot like Rogue One--the two films share the same Cinematographer! I'm a big fan of Greig Fraser, he does a great job of capturing scope and scale
👍👍👍👍👍👍
He’s also doing the Batman
One of the reasons I’m excited to see it. He’s my favorite cinematographer right now
@@souperpouperscouper 👍👍👍. Might check it out for the cinematography.
... though as much.
Honestly I was expecting it to be a part 1. There's no way you can get a good adaptation in a single film
I agree too, so I don’t feel that I’ll have the same issue that Doug did because I’ve read the book, love the director, and know about it being “Part 1” going in
I think thats not really a bad thing that the movie is part 1.
But it would be better to actually announce it in some way.
Thats my personal opinion though, I think transparancy is good. Not sure if many people would not watch it if they knew it in the first place, but you for sure don't anger anyone who didn't expect it and was "left hanging" so to speak.
Yep, called that on the way to cinema :D
THey've been going around saying it's just first part in all their press junkets, don't know how Doug was caught by surprise
Same
I like how he praises the fact that they used a "boy" to cast Paul this time.
Timothee Chalamet and Kyle MacLachlan were both 23 when their Dunes were filmed.
In the past it was a matter of casting necessity. Paul is supposed to be like 14 when the book starts and like 20 when the book ends. That would be hard to pull off with live action, so they split the difference and try to find an actor that's in the middle. Chalamet seems to be doing a good job of playing brilliant young prodigy who is slowly losing his naivety.
@@spectre111
In the book Paul is 15 at the start, and ~18 by the end.
Chalamet just looks very young (as did Paul in the book).
23 is still boyish
This film really is a marvellously accurate portrayal of the book. I've been reading Dune in readiness for the movie.
Keeping the Emperor off screen is a great move, in my opinion. Just like the original Star Wars, it adds to the mystique of this figure who rules over everything.
Being an accurate portrayal of the book is what made this flop for me. It was way too long with nothing really happening half the time. I love the Dune books, but I don't think they really are adaptable to the screen in any way that could be considered exciting.
You mentioned Star Wars. A lot of this movie felt like the boring Trade Federation Embargo peace talks in the Galactic Senate.
I would argue strongly that the miniseries was a far closer and more accurate portrayal of the books with this version cutting out major characters and plot points for simple and not overly exciting action scenes. Having the Emperor off screen is an interesting choice but at the same time seeing his reasons and his plots and WHY he sides with the Haarkonen's is a big part of the book
Wait the emperor died... I don't remember that from the book
@@thefishking7582 I actually think this movie is beautiful, wonderfully cast, and... yeah. It's the slow motion and repetition for me. This movie could lose 30 minutes and not lose its plot points. But the sllllloooooowwwww mmmmmmoooootionnnnnn and seeing the same dream shots over and over? It got old for me.
@@jamesverner9132 noone said he died?
Paul isn’t exactly a “chosen one”. Frank Herbert really took that idea and flipped it on its head. Paul is more like an anti-chosen one. Hard to explain without spoilers or numerous paragraphs but it’s so much more than that.
Its hard to know that withoout knowing the 2nd book, and I think that may cause ppl to have prejudice over the character
Paul is no messiah, he’s a false idol
Yeah major theme of Dune is danger of charismatic leaders.
Iirc the mini series touched more on this, it’s a hard plot point to convey outside of the book, there’s a lot of back story involved
without going to spoilers, we could say that Paul was too much of a coward to embrace his destiny, but even then that would be a huge injustice to Paul's character
I remember the news about the filming of this film. The director was complaining about the studio not letting them shoot parts 1 and 2 back to back. So maybe not everyone initially knew this would be a two parter but a lot of people did, maybe that's why they left it out of the marketing, idk, doesn't seem like a GREAT excuse though. They should really make it more obvious.
I’m seriously wondering why the studio wouldn’t let him do that considering that Dune is super long & one movie can’t cover that story.
@Drew Taylor apparently the head of WB is backing the second part. Plus it was already getting good press in the international market. Hopefully we will get part 2, and hopefully messiah. I want to finally see a face dance brought to full potential
We didn't get this part 1 thing in the Netherlands.
@@ramflight What do you mean, like it didn't say "Part I" under the title card in the movie?
Really?
Well, I got the second half. This is Paul's story viewed from his perspective. He starts dutiful, privileged, and semi-naive. He lives in the grandiosity of the Empire. By the end of the first half and thru the second half, Paul is becoming more disconnected from the everyday, more mystical but just as privileged in his assuming the Fremen way. The action and drama happen around him, but he flows thru it toward his destiny. On one level it is a power trip, on the other, it is a cautionary tale of power.
Well put!
And best thing of all, main character of Dune setting, isnt even born yet in first movie
It was a power trip to me when I was a kid, then I grew up and understood what it all meant, I'm sure I'll look at the books differently when i'm old
I saw it in IMAX. Second time already Here in Europe. I am a HUGE Dune-fan, know all the six original Books by Frank Herbert, the movies & all the Games. When I saw the First Scene in the Villeneuve movie I Said "this is it!" Out loud.(: Im really impressed by it and loved every Minute of it. I dont think the Second half is boring at all. I think both halves have their own Theme: half one: establishing the conflict, half two: Dive Into the Esoteric Spiritual stuff. Some of My favorite scenes are in the Second half. I highly recommend this Thing to every scifi fan Who wants Something really big and Epic again, Something worth Seeing on the big Screen (:
I’ve seen it four times and totally agree. Perfect film for me.
YES!!! Finally a story not a dumbed down Hollywood cash grab!!!😃😃😃😃
From what I understood from Doug, I have the feeling that impressions regarding that movie are not the same from the US and EU. Here in France, it did really great ! :)
Totally agree, if only all adaptations were that good... Definitely a must see for all sci-fi fans!
I 100% AGREE WITH YOU 👍👍
I am a huge DUNE nerd too and,
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT !!!!!
This guy reviewing doesn't really know what he's talking about.
(in my opinion)
They really REALLY did a great job on it.
SO HAPPY about this.
I'm going to go watch it again and again and again...... 🤣🤣
Doug, the book is REALLY worth your time and I feel this movie does a really good job adapting it. The miniseries are seen as good, the Lynch film is seen as uniquely strange, but the book is great!
Yes, that's what great about it, too!
It’s funny because even the stuff they changed worked and still made sense for their characters. There are a few scenes I wish they kept, and felt they could’ve. At least the conservatory scene and maybe the dimmer part scene. But my main gripe is how the attack played out since in the book, they made a big deal about the emperor hiding his involvement with the trap. And that the sardukar were supposed to be dressed in Harkonen armor. But they are changes that aren’t a big deal, and I can over look them.
As a warning, the book is great but the first quarter to half of it is dense and a bit of a chore at times. Bearing in mind this is the vague memory of high school me twenty years ago.
@@tgiacin435 Would have loved the dinner scene. (I'm pretty sure they didn't filme it though) My only complaints about content was that they didn't keep the longer debate between Paul and Mohiam about the sisterhoods goals and that they underutilized both Yueh and Piter. It is possible they planned to save the scenes with Piter for flashbacks in the second part for when the Baron discusses their plans with Feyd and Rabban to establish those characters, at least that is what I'm hoping for.
The book is a sick pervert's sexual fantasy, though.
I love the portrayal of the Sardokar and how Denis really hit hard on the various forms of language used in the Dune universe. They don’t have to say it outright, but the Sardokar communicate in their own “battle language”, while House Aetredis use of sign language is finally depicted to ramp up the paranoid tension.
It was also genius NOT to show the Guild Navigators and the FTL effects. It leaves more to the imagination, while what was done with the Mentats to highlight their “human computer” functions was a very clever way to get the point across.
You should review the lynch version for an NC review. It might just be my own personal bias since I met sting in person
That would make a great NC episode. Surprised he hasn't done it already.
I couldve sworn he did
@@ComicCrossing no it was just a reference he did
Dune deserves a TV series remake with the same robust budget and longevity as Game of Thrones.
Lord of the rings is a movie and that workwd
As long as Dumb and Dumber aren’t involved
@@jamesward3859 That's because it was only three books. Dune is a much larger series.
@@shadowjudge921 doesn't asoiaf have like seven books now?
It will suck and you know it.
"He who controls the Spice controls the universe!"
Save this person, save the world
Spoiler alert
It's not who controls the Spice; it's who can destroy the Spice.
Is that curry powder in those sands? Chili peppers?
Cinnamon is just that good
Thus say the Dutch
I liked this movie. It's a solid adaptation of the first half of Dune. It's pacing is similar to Fellowship of the Ring. Like Doug says, it's definitely a part one. Personally, I don't view this as a negative.
The lack of showing has that in the advertising/marketing is negativite
What if it doesn't do well and there's no Part 2? They didn't shoot them back-to-back, as far as I'm aware.
Seems like a very stupid risk to take.
@@rodycaz8984
Part two was already announced.
@@RhythmGrizz If you looked at the runtime, you could deduce it was only a part 1. At least if you were expecting a good movie. If you were expecting the entire book, you were also expecting a bad movie.
The negative is that WB didn't greenlit Part II, so it may happen or it may not...
I think people have to remember that this is a 5 hour epic. So, it’s being stretched out for a reason.
I've always been of the opinion that Dune needed to be an HBO (or other streaming service) series akin to Game of Thrones. There is WAY too much story to adapt as a movie, even a two part movie. That said, Villeneuve's version was about as good as possible given the time limitations he has to work with
@@intlvoiceofreason9239 I personally loved it. I know nothing of the lore and was able to follow along perfectly fine
@@intlvoiceofreason9239 would be far better as a high budget series, years go by in the span of the book
Stellan killed it, but his screen time is to short.
Also no Feyd, I think they saved him for second part. Feyd is other side of Paul.
I think the Baron will get a bit more screentime in the second part. He was excellent in the scenes he was in and did not overstay his welcome.
If there is a directors cut at some point, we might get a bit more.
Any rumors on who will portray Feyd?
@@illerac84 there were rumours about guy from ready player one. Keegan is his surname I think. Not sure.
I don't think they are valid, because they were before release of first part. I hope it's somebody else, don't like him personally. (Cyclops In last X-men movies was his other role and he did a great job in "Killing of sacred deer" )
Some things from the books, that makes this movie more accurate.
There aren't really any big battles shown on page, its more focused on 1vs1 personal fights.
Paul is described as a young man and small for his age.
The baron is barely in this part of the story, and it looks like all his scenes with Fayd are gonna be in the next movie. Also, the baron is not a "fun" character, thats a david lynch idea. He is not a goffy flying fat man, he is a terrifyingly powerful lord, driven by pure greed and entitlement.
I agree that baron harkonnen is menacing and terrifying and really like the portrayal, and the lynch version is way too cartoony. i do wish there was more of his decadent/depraved side though. There is some of it in a relatively understated i’d expect from villeneuve, but reading the book this summer i thought of him primarily as a decadent and greedy man with a terrifying cunning. Still a good portrayal and lovely casting imo, even if it wasnt what i expected
Finally someone gives "Children of Dune" the praise it deserves. Yes, the CGI is awkward and the costumes are weird (though imaginative) but the cast is great and the story is really exciting.
Oh, I knew Dune would be only a part 1. It's just... So much more than once film could properly handle
Never read or watched Dune before this one. Though, obviously I heard a lot about it. And I loved 2021 version.
I saw the Scifi mini series with my husband and they did stick pretty close to the book, according to my husband. I'm taking him to see it this weekend. I hope this movie is successful enough to continue the series properly!
Same
This is my first introduction to the dune franchise and...this was a well done sci-fi flick.
I was glad to see that the design Harkonnens was reminiscent of H.R. Giger's design really tells me that Denis put care into this movie.
so im a pretty big dune fan, and Doug.... im convinced that you and I watched completely different movies. i have been looking forward to this movie for years, ever since the rumors started online. i got out of the theater shaking, pumped full of adrenaline dying to see this movie again.
In my personal opinion this movie is amazing.
one thing that you pointed out about the actor who played Paul and how he portrayed him being very average that's exactly what his character is in the book. He's described as being shorter than normal he's not a very standout person he's just kind of basic and he morphs into a legend. i plan on seeing this as many times as i can because.... WOW
This so much. Paul is unassuming. He is very intelligent, hard working, and self driven, but he doesn't look like much
As someone who hasn't read the book yet. I picked it up since seeing the movie. As a movie it was amazing. Without knowing anything it seemed almost perfect on a technical level. Costumes, sets , acting , cinematography was all amazing. The only little complaint I have is it can drag a little in the 3rd act. You could cut 10 minutes and it would have felt better
I agree, I liked this version of Paul, but what about Doug's point on the music? Because that's what also bothered me the most. The blaring epic music became too repetitive. Seriously, the movie can't go 2 minutes without some bombastic epic trumpets drowning everything out. Tenet had the same problem
They will need more than two movies to present the story if they take that path.
This would make for a great N.C review in the future.
He should do the Lynch version first
@@biffyqueen Indeed he should.
And I for one can hardly wait for THAT!
I wish he could make some kind of "Old vs New"-like thing when Part 2 is done and then he talks about the Lynch movie, the miniseries and Villeneuve's adaptation and what aspects he feels they nailed and where they lacked.
@@DeepEye1994 That’s something to look forward to.
I actually have no problem with the David Lynch film. I love the actors, I love the sets, I love the effects.
But I do like the miniseries for the slower paced expansive story. I haven't seen Children of Dune in forever.
But, overall, i am looking forward to this new Dune. 😎
There wasn't much wrong with it it shoulda been a two or three film set and it needed a bigger budget
I was so disappointed to learn the weirding modules weren’t in the book
My main issue with the David Lynch one is just that the characters KEEP fucking doing pointless inner-monologues. No, I am not complaining about exposition, but they _really_ go heavy on "tell, don't show" and you have scenes of characters describing shit that is happening or they're doing, half of that time it felt like the Miramax cut of "The Thief and the Cobber", you know, the one Doug reviewed where they completely miss the point that it's silent storytelling and add inner-monologues that mean nothing and feel like they need to SAY what they're feeling instead of just showing it.
Shame because I do like the casting and the look of it.
@@biffyqueen they kind of were and weren't they do monologue in the book I think David lynch just couldn't find a way of presenting it properly in film
@@benfisher6978 they are not, the weirding way is a way to have highly precise control of your movements.
Are we gonna get a Nostalgia Critic review of David Lynch's Dune in the future?
To a book reader, the David Lynch version is almost heresy, spoiling from the beginning a twist, adding superpowers to Paul and half the design are weird and the other half are great...This one has honestly only one problem...there are pieces missing in the script to make it more smooth for the new comer, cause everything else is great ! Give it a go, you will be surprise !
I dunno about that one, I’m a newcomer to the universe and it seemed like they really chewed it for me, at least twice. It’s a big-screen movie, it can’t afford to be anything else but dumping exposition. Twice.
"spoiling from the beginning a twist," yes and every adaptation does that now
@@adaptorperish1322 no one is supposed to know what the spice is used for, besides extending life. Paul piece it together halfway in the book and it's a wonderful "wtf" moment
Prescience is a superpower, but the magic voice manipulating physical objects was kind of dumb.
This current film just doesn't make sense.
@@andrewh1113 the voice is not magic and manipulate no physical object, the film does make sense in the Dune context?
Well even the first book is in multiple parts. About half way though the book there is a break with that simply says "Book 2 Muad'Dib" even in though its all in the same book. Also the Baron Harkonnen is only in the book at the very beginning and at the very end of "Book 1" and the Padishah Emperor never makes an appearance. So sounds like they are sticking very close to the book. Which could be good or bad.
Okay I thought as much. Harkonnen does his job in the book by explaining his plan. Then I assume he shows back up to gloat after it works?
I feel like I watched a completly different movie than my friends did. It was such a dagger in my heart that they were bored through the whole thing. I thought I had just watched art with my eyes and ears.
It bored me too. Full of tropes. Bland character development. Pretentiousness. It is not for everyone, I guess. Too solemn, not weird enough or creative enough.
@@frankcarlosnajera9723 The reason it feels "full of tropes" is because it's based on a book from the 60s. It *invented* those tropes, or at least made them way more popular
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Yeah, I definitely see that. Some will find it boring. Some will be totally immersed. I went to see it with 3 friends. 3/4 of us really liked it. The one that didn’t Is more of a casual moviegoer. The rest of us were completely unaware of the source material and still really enjoyed it. 1 in particular really loved it and I’ve rewatched it with him a few times. Eager to see the sequel with the same group.
@@frankcarlosnajera9723people just want stupid pugs and shitty lunch tropes
Surprised Rob wasn’t here to talk about it. Isn’t he a huge fan?
They will probably talk about it in a separate video. This is just the Doug's initial thoughts video.
Agreed re the Harkonnens. I suspect they didn't want to show the Baron's sexual proclivities because of potential offensiveness, and also the makeup for Stellan Skarsgard was so onerous that they probably couldn't put him onscreen all that much without Skarsgard threatening to kill them. Which gets to a fundamental issue: doing the Baron with prosthetics was a bad idea. Skarsgard's fantastic in the role and I wish we saw as much of him as we did in the miniseries, but clearly, the prosthetics imposed limits on giving us good villains.
I read the book once as a pre-teen and barely remember any of it other than certain... Game of Thrones-esque spoilers. So I honestly don't know how to estimate where "Part 1" will break off. Are we set to see more of the Baron in the 2nd movie, do you think?
@@SomeUA-camTraveler Yes. They do not include any of the plotting scenes with the Baron, Piter, Feyd and Rabban, and we never see Fenrig or Shaddam either.
I agree. Read the books. There were two really good scenes from the book they cut out. Would have loved to have seen them. I missed seeing Paul break down after he kills a man for the first time. I wanted to see him give water to the dead. It would have been a beautiful ending. I enjoyed it and I think they finally got the atmosphere.
@@antecave Shaddam isn't shown in flesh until the end of the book. Fenrig is shown in 2 chapters before this and could very well just be used in part 2 tbh.
He's also only in the book in like two scenes. The one at the beginning where he is explaining his plan to Feyd Rauth, and the end of book one after his plan succeeds.
I don’t blame Doug for feeling caught off guard since he was NOT aware that it was only gonna be “Part 1 of 2.” However, I don’t think I’ll have that same problem since I’ve read the book & know about it being in parts before going in. Villenueve is a master
I've read the book too and it put me to sleep.
...how could you ever have that problem after you've been told out loud it's part 1 out of 2...
It might not be part 1 of 2 it could be part1 of 3
Villenueve comes across as an educated intellectual peasant with a friars bowl cut & is over hyped meh like arrival,bladerunner 2049 ,& now dune.sheeples keep giving the same nolan hype vibe to his work & its all been meh ,liked his films & style but lets be honest its just him going full on classic directors styles & work .nothing new or surprising or something that leaves an awe to his films though people hype the shit out of it like it does, maybe to sci-fi casuals plebs but not to keen eyed Veterans.
@@Edward-6909 watch prisoners.
I'm a fan of the books, not super hard core as I've only read the first some three times and the second one once and that's it... And personally I was transported. I really, really liked it, even though I thought some things could have been a bit more imaginative in the design. It was still grand and elegant. I went with two friends, a geeky male friend who was familiar with the Lynch movie and liked it and a girl friend who just tagged along and at least got good photography though it did become too long for her.
Dune is actually an "anti-chosen one" story, you get much more understanding of that in the Books
It's true. Frank Herbert intended to put a warning label for blindly following charismatic leaders. Although I can't read the rest of the books, I have Quinn's Ideas to thank
So many reviewers completely missing the themes in this story. It boggles the mind. Paul's visions even spell it out for you if your actually paying attention.
I know nothing about Dune, never read the books or a single Lynch movie or a mini series, but I really enjoyed this, I was trying to catch onto this story and get into it without knowing any lore. The second half I really enjoyed and the first I was trying to learn things but I do agree with you that I feel like I should know more about the Baron and the antagonists, all I hear about this emperor and I wasn't even thinking about the danger
If I am not mistaken, the Baron isn't even much of the first half of the book either. Though I am only a few chapters in right now
@@golfer435 yea but a good story will have a good antagonist with high stakes for the Protagonist, it had it but it could have used a bit more
this film is way too short
I'm honestly okay with them making this being multiple films. I don't think it would have worked as 4-5 hour movie.
The problem with that is if this movie doesn't hit enough on the profit scale, there won't be another movie. Kinda like the David Lynch version never got a sequel, because audiences just didn't like it enough.
5:26 Fun Fact: the DOP for this movie is Greig Fraser, who also did the cinematography for Rogue One
I as well saw an early screening of it the other day, also in IMAX, and I honestly really enjoyed it. As someone who read the book and seen the 80’s film, i appreciated this movie for getting a lot of the details from the book down much better. I will admit while I knew that it was gonna be a part one going into it, it did make me feel disappointed that it ended right where the climax of the book started, but honestly I still really liked it
👍Alright! Looking forward to seeing it 🤞
It ended at the best possible Part..
Paul Atreides turns into Paul Muad'Dib..
Couldnt have chosen a better End.
@@JulesD92 Or more like. "Paul" has died(as he saw in his vision, when he was "given" a knife) so that they may survive. So this part 1, was the story of Paul and how he "died" on Dune. The next will be the birth of Muad'Dib and how he becomes Fremen, gets his vengeance and... well, let us see.
I honestly don't think I can give an honest critique until I've seen part 2. But, uh, so far so good???
Just finished watching it a second time and it was even better :)
Might check it out
trust me, you will probably still notice new things the fourth time
Correction: Spice is the most valuable recourse in the universe. But Water is the most valuable recourse on Arrakis, (to the Fremen; the planet's indigenes).
I want a Nostalgia Critic and Cinema Snob episode on David Lynch’s Dune
Yes!! That would be awesome!
@@LoLPunky I agree!
So they jerk it off. No thanks. If u like that movie, cool. But it’s kinda crap
I loved it. I’ve read the first four books, seen the 80’s movie and both miniseries: I thought this was the best the part of the story had been told. It doesn’t over explain the lore but is very good about getting the important info across through visual storytelling. I don’t think we’ll fully get how great it is until we have part 2 to double feature with it - here’s hoping it gets made.
Well Warner Bros seems to have basically confirmed the second part will happen
Have they?🤔 Sounds good 🤞
@@quinetastic 👍👍👍👍
@@quinetastic the head of the studio came out and said today something like: you've seen how the movie ends, so you can guess what the answer is. Implying the story isn't over with this first movie and that they will be making another. Even if box office isn't huge
Dune can only be filmed as a series. It's just that there are so many characters and plots that you can't fit it in two hours, and cutting something can make the plot seem rushed.
Agree, but making it in parts like the Lord of the Rings is also a good choice, thx god they didn't put everything in one film. (*terrified by the memories of the Dark Tower adaptation*)
@@tij4293 dark tower was bad it took so much out
I read the first book recently and was a fan of it. I've seen clips of the 1984 movie and, kinda like you were saying Doug, I thought it was too much background being shoved into too short of a runtime. Haven't seen this new one yet (really excited tho), but I think that Dune was a bizarre and complicated enough sci-fi story that it needs time to sink in. If you read the book, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Dune isn't like Star Wars where there's a bunch of action and just simple enough concepts for the general public to get a grasp on. While there is action in Dune, it focuses on more complex ideas a lot more, it takes some getting used to. That's kinda why I think splitting the new one into two parts is a good idea.
"it's another one of those chosen one stories"
But is it?
..No, it isn't
It's a deconstruction of the very notion of saviors.
Question: Is this movie good? Bracing myself if it’s good or just ok.
It’s just ok.
Yes, it’s definitely good! It’s just important to know going in that it’s only “Part 1” because a lot of things are left open for the time being.
@@KaneK1234 It’s just ok.
Well, that just figures.
It's excellent. The people saying it's "meh" or "okay" are in general people complaining about how dark and grim it is, but IT'S DUNE. Dune is meant to be grim and nihilistic and bleak as hell.
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This movie takes its time building the story rather than being constantly action packed. There's a good little bit of action in it, but it's so much more about telling a story rather than showing off, which gives the locations and the technology the spotlight. I loved the ornithopter designs so much. I've never seen that before in my entire life and it was a really cool design
I was honestly glad when I saw the part one. It did a much better job explaining the story and world than the 1984 film. Loved it and can't wait for the 2nd part.
Weirdly, and this is extremely weird, this was a movie for the fans of the books, because that allows you to understand and fill in the gaps of characters. Especially hardcore book fans.
I havent read the book, but this is my movie of the year. Liked it more than Suicide Squad (which i liked a looot). Cant wait for the next one.
I knew nothing about the book or original movie/mini series. I still loved the movie and was able to follow along fairly well.
I'm a Dune fan, and though not perfect, I found this version of the movie to be quite good. It captured how the book felt to me if that makes sense. I thought the music, cinematography, and acting was all wonderful.
“How the book felt” yes exactly!! I keep saying the same thing. The mood was just right I think.
During the last half, 2 out of the 6 I watched this movie with fell asleep and one barely managed to stay awake. You’re not wrong.
I already knew it was only going to be half the book, but yeah, they should've advertised it as Part 1. It didn't hurt IT to advertise itself like that.
Hollywood wanted to see the performance of the movie before allowing to do a second one. That's maybe why. And the ending of part 1 feels it. The movie could stop there, and it wouldn't feel too awkward.
please review courage meets scooby doo crossover movie since you like courage and scooby and dark tunes
The cinematographer for this is also doing the cinematography for The Batman
I'd love to hear your takes on Denis Villineueve's other films
Every actor who has played Paul was 25 when their adaptation released
Making it the first part of story definitely gives it a step up from the David Lynch adaptation.
Part of the reason why the Deathly Hallow movies are sooo good
But they really did not end part 1 at a good place.
Did the worm laugh, recognize him, or was it just trying to communicate? I loved the heck out of this, best science fiction film in years...
It is something they made up for this adaptation, so we have no way of knowing what it might mean. In the books, the worms are described as giving off a churning or rumbling sound and a lambent glow from deep within from furnace-like chemical processes. There are similar scenes to this in the later books, but with another character thousands of years later who can seemingly communicate with the worms, but this was never a thing with Paul. They did probably mean for it to signify some type of foreshadowing though, even if it might might irk the nit-pickiest fans, like myself.
As a fan who's only experience of Dune and first time ever seeing or hearing of it was this movie, I absolutely loved it! Never did I feel bored watching it. I was just in awe at the grand scale, the beautiful visuals and the creativity put in to the different aspects such as ships, houses and even religious rituals. I absolutely can not wait to see part 2
Do you ever plan on doing a NC vid on Tintin (the 2011 animated movie)
If you haven't read the books I can see why you didn't like it. As someone who read the books it seems to skip on things I wouldn't have and add a bit where they could've trimmed a bit like I wish they explained why they don't use energy based weapons and that Paul was training to be a mentat as well as his mother training him to be a bene gesserit. As they are both very important in his survival and overall success. This could've given the doctor a bit more character not much but a bit more. Honestly I didn't find issue with the second half because I wasn't expecting it to have an end it felt like the middle of the second act and I was ok with that this was because I knew way more had to come. If they need to tack on 30 min to this movie to give the doctor a bit more time and explain a little more I wouldn't care. This would've been a better miniseries with episodes an hour long each and like 6 episodes but it's a movie so it is what it is.
I personally like the idea of part one and 2 being turned into one movie with extra scenes like with Yueh. Personally I hope we get Count Fenring and Lady Margot in part 2
@@tgiacin435 This is exactly what I want. Falshbacks to scenes with Yueh, and the plotting scenes of the baron with Piter, Feyd and Rabban.
@@antecave yeah, most of my gripes were certain bits, namely the conservatory, the dinner party, and why wasn’t Piter’s eyes blue? They mentioned it in the books yet none of the adaptations show him as such. I’m just gonna pretend he has lenses to make his eyes look normal like what most revered mothers do
i agree i think this need to be a series. i dont remember a single characters name cus we are barely introduced,
Thx for the spoiler
As someone who wasn't big into Dune before I saw the movie. I loved it. Doug, people who aren't that much into Dune will definitely love it.
Eh wouldn't say definitely. Never watched anything about dune before this. It actually put me to sleep in the theater, came home, tried to watch it again onHBOmax.. still struggled. It's Beautifully shot. But I wasn't into it. It didn't Captivate me, failed to make me care about characters & it felt a bit pretentious.. but that's okay. It's just my opinion 🤷♂️
@@DARTHNEWS same
@@DARTHNEWS Well it's not the pew pew pew lisghtsaber, OMG what a cool spaceship film you are used to, DARTHnews. It's more cerebral.
Im less interested in it now than ive ever been, its so bland im surprised any one likes it, maybe its avatar goggles
@@mikshinee87 haha well true, but I'm also not a fan of the pew pew & lightsabers either. Especially Disney star wars. I had high expectations, I really wanted to like it, but it spent WAY too much time chewing on the scenery rather than chewing on character arcs. I appreciate cerebral movies... Donnie darko, the fountain, the master, memento, 2001 space odyssey, there will be blood & Magnolia. But Dune 2021... just didn't do it for me, like at all 🤷♂️
Doug, the second you said you like the Sci-fi channel miniseries, I knew I could trust your review.
I can’t wait to see Doug stare into the preview monitor and not look at the lens
I'm in the same boat of really liking the first half and getting really bored and confused by the second, i don't think the 90 slowmotion close-ups on Zendaya and screaming music vision-thing were really necessary.
I'm a Dune fan who's read the books, and I liked it, didn't love it, though I was expecting love at first sight.
I have to say this, I just notice that the top of Doug's head looks like it is being green screened out of the picture throughout this video
I cannot unsee it
I have not felt any part being long or boring. Denis Villeneuve seems to have this desire to put the ambiance at the forefront, where you have to take in the depht and the meaning of things. To those who are hollywood fans, his movies might feel long because it's not what they're used to... To others, this is a masterpiece.
I still don't get the Harkonnen giant ant though... XD
@@antecave Giant ant? No idea what you're talking about.
Finally got around to watching the movie (not in the theatre, unfortunately) and it's a beautiful movie, gorgeous in its size and scope, and... That's it.
Like Doug said the first half was REALLY good. I never read the books or watched other adaptations so I wasn't as excited for the movie, but the first half made me excited, and it got me interested in the second half. The second half is also good, but not that good, and didn't get me too invested for the second movie. I'll probably watch it when it comes out because it will clearly be a good quality film, but I won't be too disappointed if it doesn't come out either.
The biggest strength of the movie is it's cinematography, makes the movie(s) worth it just to look at the incredible worlds. But the movie did get me interested in the books though. Maybe reading the books will change my level of anticipation of the second part.
(One thing I think is the movie's biggest flaw is that there needs to be more Oscar Isaac and Rebecca Ferguson and less Zendaya. One or two of those flashforward scenes was fine but it was getting to be too much in the second half. Focusing a bit more on the family would make people more invested in the tragedy that befalls them and be interested in seeing how they would rise up again.)
I saw it about a month ago when it was released here in Europe. I didn't knew much about this world except that's a "chosen one" story (never read the book or watched prior movies or series), but you can say I'm a sci-fi fan.
This movie blew me away. I'm not easy to surprise and, even though I didn't expect much from it, I think its timing is perfext. It's true that if you expect a big action Star Wars movie, it's not that, and it was never meant to be, and that's why I love it. It's about the characters and their progression, not about the plot. I bought the book just after watching it and can't wait for part 2.
I don't know if it was because of the cinema I was in, but when there was music playing or sound effects it could be hard to hear what the characters were playing.
In my opinion they didn't 'need' to put The Baron on screen much. He was so morbidly grotesque, and the line they do give him are so blood curdling evil that any more of him would have been overkill.
The joker isnt on screen much in TDK but hangs over the movie like the baron does.
I love Denis Villeneuve films like BR2049, so I don't think the pacing as a compromise for world-building and immersion is a problem.
Also as far as books adapted into movies this is up there with Lord of the Rings for accuracy and faithfulness
I’ll say this. I went to the theaters and watched it back to back. First time I loved it, second time I seen what Doug was talking about, about it slowing up, but it didn’t really take me away from the movie. I also saw other parts where they could of ended the movie as well, but again still not complaining about what I got. I still loved the ending, and I loved that it ended with him being accepted into the tribe. It’s such a cliff hanger for me because I never read the books. But after spending 6 hours at the movies I went to the book store and bought the first book
It’s a bit early, but if you’re looking for anything to review in December. There was a mini series in the UK based on the Terry Pratchett book called “The Hogfather”. In which that world’s version of Santa disappears and the Grimm Reaper takes his place for the night. Might be worth taking a look at.
If you're not a Dune fan, I don't know why you'd see a Dune movie, period. :)
I liked it a lot, but I didn't love it. I would say it's the best Dune adaptation so far, but there's not a lot of competition.
I will say one thing I think the screenplay nailed: Giving the viewers the proper perspective on the Bene Gesserit. It's very important to understand that the Bene Gesserit *planted* those myths on Arrakis. Paul is the messiah because they *made* him the messiah through the myths they planted.
There's one other thing the movie does really well, but it's a spoiler, so I won't go into it.
The thing I didn't like was where it ended. I think they could've ended it like 15 minutes later just to get Paul settled in with the Fremen.
The slo-mo actually worked for me. I think it worked well with what the focus of those scenes actually was. It wasn't the action. The focus was him living out things he'd seen in his dreams.
I am in fact a Dune fan but movies are there for everyone to watch. You know that readership is falling more and more and if only the people who read the books saw it it would be an epic flop and we would never see part two.
A movie with Dune's budget could never be profitable if it were just watched by people who are already Dune fans.
“…Part one”
Oh, they Ralph Bakshi’s LOTR’d this franchise too?
I love that movie but ok.
@@chasehedges6775 don't think op was saying the ralph bakshi lotr was bad
I read the first Dune book and absolutely loved it. This film, I absolutely loved as well. Honestly I was expecting a part 1, knowing the director and knowing of much stuff is there to adapt. Can't wait for part 2.
I want to watch the second part as soon as possible
I've always been of the opinion that Dune needed to be an HBO (or other streaming service) series akin to Game of Thrones. There is WAY too much story to adapt as a movie, even a two part movie. That said, Villeneuve's version was about as good as possible given the time limitations he has to work with
Having never known about Dune, I felt similarly leaving the theater. It was just so much information.
Denis is such an awesome director I am very excited to see this!
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Overrated as hell
Part 2 cant come soon enough :D
You are the first one who also wears a Malt Whisky shirt :O
Subbed!
Just came back from this movie. As someone going into this movie with no prior knowledge of Dune, I thought the film was fine.
Thought the world building was very cool. Visual everything was really fantastic. Most characters I thought were interesting. However, the entire third act board me so much with how slow the pacing became, and by that point in the story, I was very lost about what was going on.
This film definitely felt like a part 1 of a whole story, but looking at this movie by itself, (especially since this is the only Dune material I've seen) I just couldn't say I loved it. But it did make me interested to see what comes next.
I've read the book and have seen both 1984 film and the TV series, but I couldn't bring myself loving this new adaptation as well. It ain't bad, but I don't love it as much as say, Lawrence of Arabia.
As a viewer that knows the story but haven't read it in a long time, I've enjoyed the film.
It's a good thing they've cast a young actor, but he lacks emotion display. He looks blasé throughout the film, except in the tent scene. Even his father looks more alive, displaying the small cracks beneath his mask of total control. Special mention to the actress playing Jessica, who makes a terrific job.
The OST is good and memorable, although too much oriented on "ambience". Can be seen as good or bad depending on the audience. Silence usage is on the spot: it's rare enough in today's films to be highlighted.
Some exposure scenes are somewhat "cliché". You could guess the incoming problem in the harvester inspection, miles away. However all the "exposure" scenes blend in nicely and don't feel forced in or weird, like some other movies.
The feeling of threat is somewhat mild, which is a disappointment. Only a few scenes manage to carry a true urgency or make you hold your breath.
Overall, even with its few flaws, it's a good film, rather contemplative than action-packed: people should be aware of that when seeing any movie from Denis Villeneuve.
i only watched Sicario before, and his other stuff in the trailers never seem to make me want to see them. only really saw this cus it was on HBO Max. i wouldnt consider this contemplative. i know whats going on, i just dont care about the characters at all. since the audience is never introduced to them properly.
I just want to mention, regarding Doug's point about the Emperor not being present in the movie, that I'm now reading the first book, and as in the movie, he does not appear in the book up until the point where the story is cut off at the end of the movie.
Hey Dough, I am big fan of your work sense the very beginning, love your humor, your team and your energy.
I never saw the old dune movie or series nor did I read the books. I saw the new “Dune” movie and I really love it, it was a bit on the slower side but still I enjoyed every minute.
Doug walker please talk about the epic Mickey series and toy story in your next nostalgia critic video 😁😁😁😁😁
Did people really expect them to do the entire book in one movie? I'd already heard from other reviews that this is part 1 of the story, but assumed they were going to do that anyways since this would be so difficult to adapt into one film.
The problem is that it didn't have music by Toto and Brian Eno
Apsolutely Amazing and Finally a great take off to hopefully the next great SciFi series. With i belive there are 6 books and Dune is actually part 1 of the first book, I really was blown away with how well this comes together
It isn't a typical chosen one story at all. The chosen one thing in Dune actually makes sense and is deconstructed perfectly.
If you don't like chosen one stories, Dune is exactly for you.
No confirmation of a Sequel or Part 2...
Why would I watch a part 1 without a guaranteed part 2?
I wouldn't walk out a movie half.way through the story, otherwise Jack and Rose would have had a lovely voyage and lived happily in New York for years...
You have a solid point 100%
Part2 is confirmed
@@EmeraldsCureCancer got a tasty sauce to go with that?
Quote from Digital Spy from 9hours ago:
"The word from the studio is looking promising too, but with Dune: Part Two still officially not confirmed, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves."
The movie manages pretty well to end it as if it was the definitive end. Not the best one, but you don't feel that sad not to get the follow up, and I think mostly thanks to the flash "futur", and not ending on a big cliffhanger :)
Yeah, it really makes me wonder why didn't the filmmakers secure the rights to film both Parts 1 and 2 back to back.
The adventure is not yet over. In fact, it’s only just beginning. Bring on Part 2!
I haven't seen the other adaptations but I've read the first book and most of the second one (unfortunately my tablet ran out of power). I thought it was a really sound adaptation and it made me want to reread the first one and read the rest of them.