KotFE 2: all 8 classes comparison
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2015
- "There are no class stories, just the epic story with a dash of class flavor tossed in."
Turns out, there's a lot of class-specific content, a line or two almost in each wheel. It's mostly unnoticeable, but the first 2 chapters of KotFE reference the companions, which makes a huge difference. I hope that you find it interesting.
I was missing a few romance flags, so I asked to borrow a few seconds from xLetalis, the Awesome Legacy and Naruto Uzumaki.
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"The Jedi Order is not your concern.Leave their defeat to another."
How right he was.
“But I’ve got unlimited ammo here.” Why is that now one of my favorite quotes?
"I dont need luck - I have ammo!"
@@shovelenthusiast7389 I am KROGAN
Ammo’s for Nancies
-some dude who can take down an attack chopper with a knife
I like how everybody's angry or whatever at Valkorion, but the inquisitor goes full egomaniac, and says valkorion is weak compared to them
the sass is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
Just shows you how stupid Inquisitor is actually. Also, lying to themselves.
i fucking LOVE Valkorian! hes literally got a perfect response for every line you throw at him. very convincing manipulator
Cooler7328 still, the throne room scene was very frustrating. "oh, am i?" "do you?" "a mistake has been made, but by whom?" grrr, answer a single question, man!
I love the dialogue options are a little more formal for the Jedi, Sith, agent, and trooper, but the hunter and the smuggler both speak more informally
Interestingly, the trooper sometimes joins BH&smuggler in the "rude guys" corner in the later chapters
Roksik i think that makes sense too, the trooper has more reasons to be formal than the hunter and the smuggler but he doesn't have as many reasons to be formal as the other classes
WoodstockProd I do vaguely recall one or two instances of sith classes being the punks... then again, maybe I'm thinking about those times when they were being bloodthirsty psychopaths.
"How'd a charmer like you make babies? Cloning?"-Bounty Hunter
Bounty Hunter just predicted Palpatine in Episode 9
Bounty Hunter lines are so funny
@@Nemesis_T-Type the kotfe/kotet predicted Palpatine's powers...or is that plagiarism?
Reason number A Million to destroy "Valkorion" : He talked shit about Darth Marr.
Absolutely, Marr was a legendary leader, he picked up a fractured spear and used it to change fate
You see, this is why I love Imperial Agent and Inquisitor. One is smart force-user - other is intelligent Agent. Both, on their own, can without any followers find a way to still triumph over anyone, by using people, manipulation and secrets.
Being capable of zapping your foes doesn't hurt either (seriously, the inquisitor gets too many of those options).
@@Roksik that's what makes it fun if you go darkside.
Good Luck ;]
+xLetalis With what? xD
+Roksik the contest? :)
xLetalis Ah, thank you ^___^ I haven't yet been approved for it yet. The way that thing functions is really unclear. Why not though.
+xLetalis I cannot wait to do a walkthrough on this... If my recording software will allow it...
Dude, very well edited and put together. thanks
Thank you! It's nice to be appreciated ^____^
"I always loved the stars."
Love that line.
Next time we'll meet maybe I'll drop you into one. Let's see if that finishes you off - Sith Warrior line.
20:34 The Star Wars fandom trying to strike Episode 8 out from Canon
all 3 of Yensid's creations should be not only removed from canon but existence as well
Good luck in the contest! ^__^
"I am no sith, and democracy is overrated." - words from my own heart. One thing i like about new Emperor, he maybe manipulating us, yet he changed, it is true.
+Ozariah Strog He's definitely manipulating us! He certainly *allowed* us/Arcann to kill him, but why? I don't know and it's killing me!!
Roksik In one of his conversations with sith character, he said to her - Jedi are not your concern, leave their defeat to another. Could it be possible, he knows what will happen in the long future? Valk/Vitiate is the most hard to understand character i ever seen. First he tried to consume everything to become a Sith God, now he is beyond light and dark and primal goal is.. hard to understand all this.
+Ozariah Strog I have a strong feeling that it is due to the writers changing their plans for Vitiate between class story and KotFE. Before the release on KotFE I saw a lot of people complaining about Vitiate being a boring Villain Sue, and getting away from it was a clever decision. But I will never believe that the devs had that idea in mind when Revan or the first 3 chapters were being created.
I don't think that this particular line is supposed to mean something. Marr's prediction worrier me much, much more. He and Satele definitely know something!
Damn, Valky sure is persuasive.
Very suave. Didn't help him much though, everyone still wants him dead.
That guy's the emperor? He looks like a badass.
That's pretty much what he is, yes xD
Damn, conversations with Valkorion were so awesome in KotFE, and so dumb in KotET
Все одно лучше, чем в базовой игре.
Roksik это да, но в котфе был большой потенциал сделать из Валкориона не обычного "я тебя обманываю, чтобы заполучить мое супер-кресло обратно" злодея, а действительно интересного персонажа. И в котет они напросто весь интерес начали убивать с первых минут, когда Валкорион начал затирать "убей моих детей" каждую минуту, что уж слишком ясно намекало, какой финал будет у котета
"Убей моих детей" он ГГ и в котфе затирал. Это, возможно, было не столь очевидно, но никаких глобальных поворотов в котет не было 100%. Разве что поражает лень разрабов: уж джедай-воин, как минимум, должен был получить пару строчек диалога с отсылкой на контроль разума и тела из второго акта базовой игры. (И Scourge! Его пророчество сбылось, так ПОЧЕМУ его не было в котет?!)
Это я к тому, что финал котета был довольно очевиден с самого начала. И то радость, что Валкорион, в отличие от Вишиата, был хоть сколько-нибудь реализован как персонаж. Сюжетная линия последнего всю базовую игру шла вникуда.
Roksik в том-то и дело, что он открыто это не говорил) в котфе Валкорион очень сильно отличался от Вишейта из оригинального сторилайна, более болтливый и загадочный, и создавалось ощущение, что он что-то знает и его цели более серьезные, чем трон императора (он итак был императором тысячу лет) - ведь в начале котфе он фактически позволил себя убить, убеждал ГГ, что его детей нужно от трона убрать, а не просто захватил его разум и сам убил их (как в финале котет, только у ГГ не было бы голокрона, а значит и сил противостоять Валкориону), помогал ГГ, даже покинул его разум (как казалось в котфе). А в котете слишком прямолинейно и тупо - постоянно втирал ГГ про убийство своих детей, захват трона, при встрече с детьми постоянно появлялся и провоцировал всех - разительное отличие от котфе, слишком банально по-моему, слили интересного персонажа.
А как тебе момент, когда он во время битвы в Бедламе застравляет ГГ использовать его силу против Арканна? (случается только тогда, когда ГГ слишком часто полагался на силу Валкориона). Или в этой ^ главе, где ГГ, послушав Валки, делает вывод "аааааа, так ты хочешь, чтобы я их убил/а?". Даже ГГ догадывается прямо тут. Серьезно, если пройтись по всем веткам диалога во всех главах, улик набирается более чем достаточно.
Признаться, я сама думала, что Валки позволил себя убить в котфе1, и осталась несколько разочарованной, когда этому не дали объяснения (а еще я думала, что кокон с нижней палубы надгробья с ним связан... ГГ слышит вокруг того место шепот... Валки начинает являться только после активации корабля... Сеню тянет к тому месту... ан нет). Я согласна, что с Валки можно было сделать больше. Со всей его семьей можно было сделать больше (искупление Арканна слишком невнятное, а от того, что нельзя спасти Вейлин, у людей до сих пор бомбит), но меня это по крайней мере не удивляет.
23:51. A little improv there. The galaxy is shaped by the dead. Yet he says "The galaxy is shaped by dead men". I find things like that interesting lol.
+Blue Nova I know of one more! Check 26:26 in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/213Rwew0CwI/v-deo.html
Thats so kool. I love finding little things like that. I know Ive heard others before but trying to remember them is hard lol. That and I hardly ever have subtitles on. Makes things more cinematic and immersive.
+Blue Nova english is my third language so I got a pretty good excuse xD
+Roksik Thats a great excuse lol.
Great vid! Thanks for all the comparisons.
straswa no problem! Thanks for watching!:)
great idea, great editing. please keep uploading next chapters
+Vladimir Demishin Thanks for reminding me, I have a few more already done, just need to upload... :)
Valkorian in KotFE: "I have evolved beyond Light and Dark"
Valkorian in KotET: Just kidding I am a Sith.
Honestly It would have been much better if this Valkorian stayed what happened did they changed writers?
Like oh no the evil emperor was evil all along who knew? I wished they kept this "grey" Valkorion he seemed wise and powerful with a lot of depth. The other one is generic and petty.
The Zakuul Story was supposed to last three expansions instead of two. The first would focus largely on Arcann, the second on Vaylin, and the last on Valkorion. But because of the negative feedback (mainly because of the lack of group content) they had to wrap everything up in the second expansion. Valkorion was always going to be the final villain, but they didn't have the time to make his turn anything more than "mustache-twirling villain".
@@Mike-if2bc My main complaint about KotFE and KotET is that it didn't have class specific content.
I think that the expansion could have been a lot of better if they had split the chapters to the classes that made more sense. For example give the Force Sensitive Classes the Light and Dark chapter. Give the Republic Trooper the chapter with Havoc Squad. Give to the smuggler the the one Gault etc. I think that giving 6-7 chapters and some are shared some are unique would make the expansion all that more fun and interesting.
“I take the fall for your kid’s temper tantrum! Figures…” 😂
"You applying to be my campaign manager?" LMFAO
Man, I feel like I NEED to romance someone in each class so that each of my Star Wars dream OC's don't undermine the personality I built for them
Doesn't match or otherwise?
@@Roksik Kinda doesn't match, although if I were stuck in some weird force limbo with Valkorion, I'd probably keep most things to myself. I'll just select the middle option of trying to call out companions
Very good video!
interesting, thanks for uploading this !
Dorah Winter your welcome! I'll upload the last chapter during the weekend!
1:05 someone should tell Solid Snake his infinite ammo bandana was stolen
6:06 reminds me of when the smuggler flirted with Vitiate's Jedi skin puppet
Fun Fact: The Male Jedi Knight shares the voice of Solid Snake.
@@twinodoom a fact pointed out in the TFS Gaming dicks of the old republic series
Thanks! These videos must have taken forever to make.
Your welcome :) Putting them together is quite fun - it's recording the footage that takes an eternity. Imagine having to run 20 characters through all the chapters... and now I also have to level a male trooper if I want to bring you the War on Iokath class comparison (there's enough content for one) :P
After seeing this, I deem u as a creature of higher intelligence then most people. I appreciate that. Work well done.
+Mark M. I'm merely more meticulous than the others, nothing too unusual :) I appreciate it though. Check out the other vids, I'll be uploading chapter 5 soon.
+Roksik A humble answer its a sign of well upbringing. Such a rare jewel u realy are little elf :) U need to realise that.
+Mark M. Still, I enjoy flattery as much as the other guy/gal, so thanks for petting my ego, it's very much needed to keep doing these compilations ^___^
20:38 Valkorion knows...
Ась?
@@Roksik I think he meant foreshadowing for Darth Sidious
@@MrEtamsorojam huh I thought he meant Arcann
16:39 based
God damnit that Cantina outro....... . I CANT BELIEVE YOU'VE DONE THIS!
Well the acapella isn't mine, but I agree it's very catchy :)
@@Roksik :) Appreciated the Video btw, im still struggling to decide which of my chars I should let attend the expansions first ... I dont wanna be a Force User tho ... ;
Little sad you did not do Light Side Sith Warrior Dialog. I am pretty sure he said something different to my Warrior about light side Jaesa
She sure did but she's an alert and I've only been doing main quest so far.
Eating force ghosts for breakfast is what I do best 😎
I can recognize some, but what armor are Andronikus, Zenith, Skadge, Vector, Vette and Gault wearing? I know that's a lot to look over and write down, and I apologize for that
Zenith = one of the retired raiding sets (back from before the operations levels were synched). It was brought back as one of the random Alliance influence crate drops (Remnant Underworld Smuggler's Jacket)
Vette = same, Remnant Underworld Agent's Jacket.
Skadge = same, Remnant Resurrected BH's body armor. Chances are, the non-remnant versions are on the GTN (those set could've been reverse-engineered)
Andronikus & Gault = drops from the Rishi era. Not sure where to get them now but they are either level-appropriate drops or rewards for Rishi quests.
Vector = cartel market's Orbalisk armor set.
@@Roksik Cool, thanks
How did you get the counselor hair style?
You can get it from the cartel market
Passion - grows stronger with distance
Even better this one.
7:59 Hey, isn't that xLetalis' DS Marauder?
yup! I am missing a warrior with a romance flag, so I asked xLetalia's permission to borrow his to avoid leaving a blank. the link to his video is in the annotations
+Cavik96 Finished chapter 3 just now so stay tuned, going to leave my computer on tonight to render the file, will probably upload tomorrow!
what is your hunter in
You mean the girl or the guy?
girl
Series 808 cybernetic torso/hands/legs + 512 cybernetic legs + B-200 cybernetic belt :)
Hes really good at poking holes in your ideology
really good quality....
+Arne Lindberg Much appreciated :D
Also, all right, all right, I'll get it together - uploading the next chapter now!
I have "subsbribed" for more, as per the ending.
Oh come on, I've seen natives speaker with worse spelling and English is my third language :P
So wait...what really happened to Darth Jadus in the end?
Depends on the agent's action at the end of act 1.
1) Jadus gave up on destroying his enemies and went into exile to rethink his plans.
2) He destroyed all of his enemies, benchpressed the whole dark council into "singing his glory", spied on the emperor, uncovered his plans, forsaw the "cataclysm" to come, and went into exile to return in full glory at a later date - see here: ua-cam.com/video/GQD49BrPTpo/v-deo.htmlm30s
3) His plans were foiled, and he ran away.
4) He was captured and delivered to the dark council. Presumably for execution, but we never know for sure.
Whatever the outcome, it's safe to presume that he survives every outcome and can still return. He was a very powerful figure in the story too. It's nice for the fans to ask and for the devs to acknowledge that. (In case you didn't know, that's what they said during the last stream: "Darth Jadus is not returning but he is a huge favorite among the story team.")
Wolfgod 64 I sort of doubt that all those sith would have normally survived that long... don't forget that there's a 26 centuries gap between SWTOR and Bane's era. Sure, folks like Valkorion are borderline immortal but look at Zash. Sure, she's not the strongest sith out there, but if anything that shows how long, desperate, difficult (and sometimes fruitless) a quest for immortality can be for 'average' sith. Sure, Jadus is way above average, but there just isn't many sith of his level left in the Empire. And surely those sith would've gotten themselves killed by something way before Bane.
Hmm. Good point. Still, I doubt anyone but Bane could kill Valkorion, obviously it's possible he died before then, but they would have to make up a new person to kill him (maybe a protagonist of a some game).
Jadus might have been able to live that long. After all, Valkorion could've potentially lived forever, so Jadus may be able to survive for centuries, and he often works in the shadows, making him hard to find, let alone kill. But you're right, it's very unlikely. Regardless, they should still make a game, book, or even movie based around Bane. He's one of the most influential characters in Star Wars, and I'm sure a battle with him and dozens of other sith would be interesting.
Wolfgod 64 One day, maybe one day :)
Also, I DO think Valkorion will be dealt with in KotET based on the spoilers I've heard. Or maybe some next expac... we'll see!
what happens if you killed quinn before they patched it
what version of the game are you referring to? from all I know, the option to kill him was considered during development but never implemented in the final release
Roksik oh i must be mistaken
@@Roksik Wasnt it possible in beta but due to outcry due to lack of healer it was removed?
Great fucking editing
+bad79ass Thanks, I tries to keep as as tidy as possible :)
is it just me or does seem like valkorian actually respects the agent and isn't pretending?
ALLCAPSMAN I didn't think so. If he respects anyone at all, it's the Inquisitor. He couldn't even come up with a hurtful insult for them in KotET 9! I'm working thorough that chapter now, it's quite interesting!
Ah, and how could I forget this:
ua-cam.com/video/GFefnIuo-KU/v-deo.htmlm7s
damn, youre right. Inquis straight up threatens Valkorian and he backs down
@@ien7785 I think its because Inq is most like him who is the only person he ever truly respected
is this really Valkorian doing a companion roll call? seems to me he's feeling like a cast off and is desperate for attention
He is canonically lost and still looking for a okan and a way out, so sounds legit.
@@Roksik either that or it's an extreme case of notice me senpai
21:56 Does the hunter really call the Empire his/her home?
+Cavik96 I don't have a video at hand to prove it, but the chances that BH didn't and I didn't notice it are about... 20%, I'd say? Actually, let me log on my second merc, see whether I'm still on chapter 2 on him.
+Cavik96 No, moved on to chapter 3 already. And while the BH distances themselves from the Empire in the dialogue wheel after Marr's death, I'm pretty sure they get the same line as other imps in this cutscene.
Fem Smug is the best
Valkorion. Not a good mentor in my book.
Never actually played the Expansions. Simply didn't care about the one way story line. And since I already expect the Emperor to stay evil and betray you anyways. There's no point in choosing. Wouldn't it be hilarious if he actually cared about you.
They tried to give him some complexity with his relationships anyway. And gotta say, I love his extended family and his new empire. I wish we could've explored it more, and it's too bad that we're back to republic vs sith empire stuff. IMO Zakuul gave swtor some needed variety.
@@Roksik Well it's still just an MMO. Even if the Writers wanted to, they never could actually change anything.
Pleas rename the title of this video so it's remotely relevant.
Alaric And what are you suggesting as a title?
Roksik How about, "I'm a shitty video maker who should delete his account"