@@glitchFan2428 thank you! coming from you that means a lot. yes I really hope people hear what I have to say towards the end, it was not my intention at all to bash SMRT, but rather to raise awareness about what happens during disruptions and look at the other side of the fence; that we tend to take for granted a system which is USUALLY working well 👍
Back when i first saw the future plan for the system, i used to wonder why there needs to be so many new lines. But now i'm quite grateful for it cause they can serve as alternate means of travel when such incidents occur.
So true. Many of us complain n criticise when things go wrong but we fail to appreciate what we have when things are going well. Especially true in Singapore because everything works and it works well so it becomes an expectation. Thanks for the sensible reminder.
Great video and very informative, I hope this will help raise more awareness about the incident that has happened recently, in fact the good thing is they have just started fixing the tracks
Well said! I like that you also took time to put emphasis on being grateful for what you have when the MRT is properly running! I always love taking the MRT in Singapore, I grew up with it since my family lives there and I can tell you that it is much more reliable than many train systems I have used in Europe🙃 train fault happen regularly and a couple of no train service is pretty common for maintanance works here in the Netherlands. Thanks for this video🙌🏾🙌🏾
They should have admitted very early on that a derailment occurred. It was very fortunate that there were no serious injuries or deaths. But by making things sound like a simple "fault" and not adjusting expectations on the severity of the incident, people were angry over why the train line has to stay closed for days and this only attracted unnecessary pressure on LTA and SMRT.
Yep I mean these trains are already being infused for 35 years already This means they will break down eventually And finally this week it happened shows LTA has not look into do more maintenance for every commuter trips
Also shows that KHI trains (especially PMSM now) are not as reliable now and it's better to decommission them asap and bring in more R151 trains (wish the 12 trains that have delivered start their testing sooner) to life
That's why, even 207/208 in it's original form still performs better compared to most KHI trains even after 29 years and I remember riding the SIE very often while avoiding the KHI during my primary / secondary school days lol (and still doing so now with R151 trains as my new successor to the KHI). Now with this disruption, I really don't feel like riding and filming the KHI trains on EWL anymore and I really hope they don't last beyond 2026
@DOGEE_FOREVER But now with this disruption, are they as good (perhaps I only like their motor sound but otherwise the model reliability is not performing good enough) compared to even 207/208 or the remaining 2 KNS trains
Another point that no one seems to bring up is that standing in the gangway can be dangerous. Dont do it, its not worth it. We all seen the pictures where the train split at the gangay. If you were standing there you would likely be injured.
@@seranoham7611 Its not that dangerous normally but it can be in an emergency situation. Just like seatbelts on a plane are not necessary when the seatbelt sign is off until things go wrong. Standing away from the gangway is not necessary until the axle box falls off. It may not be that necessary but you would really want to avoid it anyways, similar to how people are advised to wear seatbelts all the time in flight regardless of the seatbelt sign.
I'm curious why trains on the west side (Both shuttle and normal service) terminate at Boon Lay when there's a switch in Lakeside, since Lakeside was once a terminus on the East West line.
Great video. I think we are lucky that nobody was injured. The whole thing could have been worse if passengers were onboard that train. Yeah, it's going to be a huge inconvenience. But what to do? We just have to bear with it together as a nation.
The smoke is due to the tremendous frictional pull by the heavy load(the train) forcefully into the depot. The power cable is running align along the rail is grossly affected by the frictional heat with no naked fire but only smoke. The harder you pull, greater is the resistant minus 'one wheel' really 'koyak!'
I agree, compared to NSL and good thing I live in the North region and not along the EWL / CCL areas. NSL also used to have more disruptions as well in the last decade (especially in 2017 due to CBTC) but now the line's reliability is better especially with newer trains coming in
This disruption has been the worst EWL disruption since 2017 when two trains (C151A 535/536 and 547/548) collided at Joo Koon and resulted other trains having to only use one platform in order to continue to the TWE, while train services on the TWE were suspended the following day (16 November Thursday) until Sunday and between Joo Koon and Gul Circle until May 2018
@SGtrainsproductions Hopefully, but if they need a bit of time to have trains test on the affected stretch for at least one more day then I am fine also
The reason why he said it is exciting is because as we are train enthusiasts, we see trains that terminate at the stations that are not common during the normal service days
@@kimxgamer One train acted as three-car train while the line back then was using two different systems with the CBTC being used on the TWE, but the other didn't move at Joo Koon and the first train move forward and collided with the second train which injured many people (very serious, but fortunately no deaths)
you can see the tuas part by taking TEL from outram to woodlands then change to nsl then go all the way to JE or just take the entire NSL from raffles place or city hall 🤓
3:30 Hold on, 129/130 was plying only on the westbound track and 501/502 was plying only on the eastbound track for the whole operating hours even if they are going on the wrong usual direction? 7:15 They used Outram Park because it used to be the terminus when through services from Bishan to Outram Park existed from Dec 1987 and Nov 1989 By the way, I like how you still reminded us to be thankful/grateful that an extensive network exists here. Some Singaporeans (especially Redditors on r/Singapore) are literally complaining. Loved this video!
Some of them just take our rail network for granted as if they don't care, just take the train then depart off. For me, I cherish and treasure all train models (except KHI since they are the most problematic especially on EWL) during my commutes and looking at their exterior livery, seats, motor sound and interior designs even outside of my activites
@@DOGEE_FOREVER i will be going to Dover MRT Station for trainspotting :) (i like that station because it has side platforms instead of island platforms)
@@botaklick_133 I took the R151 as a shuttle train service between Jurong East & Boon Lay during the fourth day of EWL disruption ua-cam.com/video/nB9jE3yzqGw/v-deo.htmlsi=DAythCdplT0dVwB1
What do you expect when their policy is feed ALL MONEY TO FEED THOSE IN POWER & NONE FOR MAINTENANCE. WHO BOTHERS TO LOOK AFTER MINTENANCE ( COST AT LEAST 10% of ACTUAL TOTAL EXPENDITURES.)
Singapore is just a small tiny Country and yet this kind of transport issue happen again and again ! 😅 No surprise if Singapore Citizens keep voting for PAP and dare not change ! Singapore Citizens ask for it ! Don't complain and just live with it ! 😅
especially when the far west has literally ONE mrt line to rely on now that its out of action, ppl have to cram onto FBBs which is like applying thin tape to a leaking water tank, they dont do shit
@@fannychoo6301Yep that's true But if you ask me LTA should have realise that trains are used every day by commuters Unlike train enthusiast, they like disruption compared to normal people as it disrupt their every day routine when they travel to work or school Or anywhere else they need to go Maintenance for public trains should be done quite as often as possible as these trains run every single day for everyone to use This shouldn't have happened into the first place if LTA took train maintenance more seriously
Can't wait for the train track to repair, take taxi. What you want me to do. Not happy, just vote another party. Retirement age went upto 70, train is 35y only. I follow the policy. 😅😅😅😅😅
Now, that's not very nice to say when your country has highly regarded as the best public transport in Asia, maybe not as Japan best, but you get the idea. As a Malaysian, I think Singapore has a very good bus and rail integration. I can confirm that if you come to my country and ride our PT for yourself, you'll be grateful to have your country's public transport system. We have decent LRT MRT and Bus service, although not the best and frequencies need to be improved, but we're trying our best.
Mrt this time facing a super major crisis is a good experience for the management ,government & workers ,as i am saying if the mrt running smooth all this decade mights well we just get a clerk run the whole operations 🚉🚉🚉
PSLE students from the west hearing the news was frustrated
Fr tho😭😭
Bad News
Very informative, and very well put together! I think more people need to hear what you have to say at the end 👍
@@glitchFan2428 thank you! coming from you that means a lot. yes I really hope people hear what I have to say towards the end, it was not my intention at all to bash SMRT, but rather to raise awareness about what happens during disruptions and look at the other side of the fence; that we tend to take for granted a system which is USUALLY working well 👍
GLITCHFAN IM YOUR FAN WHICH STATION DO YOU LIVE
Back when i first saw the future plan for the system, i used to wonder why there needs to be so many new lines. But now i'm quite grateful for it cause they can serve as alternate means of travel when such incidents occur.
So true. Many of us complain n criticise when things go wrong but we fail to appreciate what we have when things are going well. Especially true in Singapore because everything works and it works well so it becomes an expectation. Thanks for the sensible reminder.
Great video and very informative, I hope this will help raise more awareness about the incident that has happened recently, in fact the good thing is they have just started fixing the tracks
Well said! I like that you also took time to put emphasis on being grateful for what you have when the MRT is properly running! I always love taking the MRT in Singapore, I grew up with it since my family lives there and I can tell you that it is much more reliable than many train systems I have used in Europe🙃 train fault happen regularly and a couple of no train service is pretty common for maintanance works here in the Netherlands. Thanks for this video🙌🏾🙌🏾
That was a really good video! From 08:07 was well cooked!
This disruption reminded me to never take the MRT for granted!
The way I looked at the whole saga , the more I believe more major breakdown is akan datang .
Especially this line and CCL
It is disappointing as HK still have older trains and they are still in service while being retired while being in good condition
Love this video! Very detailed and informative
🎉🎉be appreciative, be kind, be patient.
Nice video give this guy a raise right now 🗣️🗣️🗣️
They should have admitted very early on that a derailment occurred. It was very fortunate that there were no serious injuries or deaths. But by making things sound like a simple "fault" and not adjusting expectations on the severity of the incident, people were angry over why the train line has to stay closed for days and this only attracted unnecessary pressure on LTA and SMRT.
Well, this kind of things are bound to happen, no matter what country .
Yep I mean these trains are already being infused for 35 years already
This means they will break down eventually
And finally this week it happened shows
LTA has not look into do more maintenance for every commuter trips
Also shows that KHI trains (especially PMSM now) are not as reliable now and it's better to decommission them asap and bring in more R151 trains (wish the 12 trains that have delivered start their testing sooner) to life
any country means outside sg when this is more frequent and no free buses
Wow!! Love this video, very informative
The westbound services end at Outram park probably because there is a diamond crossing there
Siding. Outram Park don’t have diamond crossing
West Side Location
I cannot believe this...
35 year train how to work well
Yeah. Instead the younger 29 year old and 24 year old trains got retired before the 37 year old trains..
That's why, even 207/208 in it's original form still performs better compared to most KHI trains even after 29 years and I remember riding the SIE very often while avoiding the KHI during my primary / secondary school days lol (and still doing so now with R151 trains as my new successor to the KHI). Now with this disruption, I really don't feel like riding and filming the KHI trains on EWL anymore and I really hope they don't last beyond 2026
Refurb
@@SGrailadventure2004khi isn't that bad tho
@DOGEE_FOREVER But now with this disruption, are they as good (perhaps I only like their motor sound but otherwise the model reliability is not performing good enough) compared to even 207/208 or the remaining 2 KNS trains
Another point that no one seems to bring up is that standing in the gangway can be dangerous. Dont do it, its not worth it. We all seen the pictures where the train split at the gangay. If you were standing there you would likely be injured.
Standing on the gangway is 100% safe and trains do not just split randomly do not listen to this person
@@seranoham7611
Its not that dangerous normally but it can be in an emergency situation. Just like seatbelts on a plane are not necessary when the seatbelt sign is off until things go wrong. Standing away from the gangway is not necessary until the axle box falls off.
It may not be that necessary but you would really want to avoid it anyways, similar to how people are advised to wear seatbelts all the time in flight regardless of the seatbelt sign.
I'm curious why trains on the west side (Both shuttle and normal service) terminate at Boon Lay when there's a switch in Lakeside, since Lakeside was once a terminus on the East West line.
The first major EWL distruption in 7 years, but still a long way to restore this line back to normal operations.
@@YaoboyProd2K15 Definitely, Mean Kilometres Between Faults (MKBF) numbers probably haven’t been worse for EWL.
Why did the C151 train broke down in the middle of nowhere
Excellent Video and you’re welcome👍🏼👍🏼
Great video. I think we are lucky that nobody was injured. The whole thing could have been worse if passengers were onboard that train.
Yeah, it's going to be a huge inconvenience. But what to do? We just have to bear with it together as a nation.
The smoke is due to the tremendous frictional pull by the heavy load(the train) forcefully into the depot. The power cable is running align along the rail is grossly affected by the frictional heat with no naked fire but only smoke. The harder you pull, greater is the resistant minus 'one wheel' really 'koyak!'
just the beginning of the end
East West Line ALWAYS has the most incidents, luckily I told my family members soon enough, and they avoided take the EWL
I agree, compared to NSL and good thing I live in the North region and not along the EWL / CCL areas. NSL also used to have more disruptions as well in the last decade (especially in 2017 due to CBTC) but now the line's reliability is better especially with newer trains coming in
This disruption has been the worst EWL disruption since 2017 when two trains (C151A 535/536 and 547/548) collided at Joo Koon and resulted other trains having to only use one platform in order to continue to the TWE, while train services on the TWE were suspended the following day (16 November Thursday) until Sunday and between Joo Koon and Gul Circle until May 2018
First Rail Disruption causing serious damage to equipment from >3 Rail Core Systems across long distances of Track.
@@Ethan777100Really bad, really hope this disruption won't happen again next time if not I am not riding the EWL anymore due to their low reliability
@@SGrailadventure2004The EWL full service should resume by tomorrow & no more extension of the disruption
@SGtrainsproductions Hopefully, but if they need a bit of time to have trains test on the affected stretch for at least one more day then I am fine also
Wrongrailed: Train arrived at Commonwealth on the left at 3:23 of the video
So sad and this is also science and this is for our own good😢😢
1st world city, with 4th world maintenance
Me and my shoulder partner were yappin abt symmetry on a rainy day
the best yapping experience
The only way to minimize train breakdown is to copy AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES STRICTLY AND CONTROLLED BY AIR CIVIL AVIATION BOARD.
I’m curious which side are the c651 running👀
207/208 is on the East section while 237/238 on the West. 201/202 on NSL
I think interesting is a better word than exciting
intriguing:
The reason why he said it is exciting is because as we are train enthusiasts, we see trains that terminate at the stations that are not common during the normal service days
Wow, does it repeat history 😢
Some heads to roll from the Maintenance Division.
oh dear.. did this happen before?
The 2017 Joo Koon incident was very bad as well
@@SGrailadventure2004 oh I see..
A siemens train (227/228) derailed in 1999. Not our first derailment but I don’t believe that disruption lasted for so many days.
@@SGrailadventure2004 That one I would say have similar impacts to the current one since it resulted in numerous ECLOs that followed the incident.
@@kimxgamer One train acted as three-car train while the line back then was using two different systems with the CBTC being used on the TWE, but the other didn't move at Joo Koon and the first train move forward and collided with the second train which injured many people (very serious, but fortunately no deaths)
can you film 065/066 on cgl full journey
@@ivideotrain 🎄
It should be ready by Tuesday
you can see the tuas part by taking TEL from outram to woodlands then change to nsl then go all the way to JE or just take the entire NSL from raffles place or city hall 🤓
too bad its long. at bn vista, go to bt gardens, bt panjang, cck, jrl east
Raffles Place to Jurong East on NSL is 1 hour plus
@@SGtrainsproductions yes but you can change at marina bay then go to woodlands and then jrl east. idk but could be faster.
ITE has a course on Rapid Transit
So Pasir Ris to Queenstown is alive
3:30 Hold on, 129/130 was plying only on the westbound track and 501/502 was plying only on the eastbound track for the whole operating hours even if they are going on the wrong usual direction?
7:15 They used Outram Park because it used to be the terminus when through services from Bishan to Outram Park existed from Dec 1987 and Nov 1989
By the way, I like how you still reminded us to be thankful/grateful that an extensive network exists here. Some Singaporeans (especially Redditors on r/Singapore) are literally complaining. Loved this video!
Some of them just take our rail network for granted as if they don't care, just take the train then depart off. For me, I cherish and treasure all train models (except KHI since they are the most problematic especially on EWL) during my commutes and looking at their exterior livery, seats, motor sound and interior designs even outside of my activites
Thank you! I wanted to reiterate that all systems have their flaws. Singapore is no exception.
@@sgt2581 The rails use for how many years already? Should replace them. They should take the opportunity to do so.
I saw a train moving while on a bridging bus to je around tradehub 21
I hope they can solve it soon, because im going there next week 🇸🇬 🙏
U probably won't be going to the west
@@DOGEE_FOREVER i will be going to Dover MRT Station for trainspotting :) (i like that station because it has side platforms instead of island platforms)
@@ZRHTrainspotter canberra also. But I prefer the normal islands one cus less confusing HAHA
@@DOGEE_FOREVER ye, i will spot at both types of stations :)
@@ZRHTrainspotter NICE
Absolutely terrible and troublesome tbh,if only 065/066 didn't break out...
bruh the c151 powerbox drop
did you take r151 as a shuttle train?
@@botaklick_133 I took the R151 as a shuttle train service between Jurong East & Boon Lay during the fourth day of EWL disruption ua-cam.com/video/nB9jE3yzqGw/v-deo.htmlsi=DAythCdplT0dVwB1
I do have a feeling that LTA and SMRT should let all c651s, older c151a and c151b trains retire and replace them with either new c751s or r151s
c751s????
@@mrfoxesite69482 i think? i forgot if theyre new or not
@@ThatAviationEnthusiast c751a, c751c(nel), c751b(nsewl) no c751s. no c anymore just r
@@mrfoxesite69482 oh. thanks!
@@ThatAviationEnthusiast youre welcome!
Good Luck to the PSLE students!
AH VERY NICE AND DETAIL VIDEO ESP 1:03 AND 8:00 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
AH
@@gabrielgerard7053 AH
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why is C151 train is black color. it should be white
As a 'train enthusiast", have you compared with other countries?
From the countries I have visited, many of them weren’t close to beating Singapore’s system. Maybe only Seoul or Japan.
@@sgt2581 Only Asia?
@@mrtienphysics666 Nope, been to one in Australia and one in the United States. Both were definitely less superior than Singapore’s system.
This is worst than MTA New York City Transit
One fault back to 1986.
I hear of it and is very sad but I don’t live there and the school I go to is not there
What do you expect when their policy is feed ALL MONEY TO FEED THOSE IN POWER & NONE FOR MAINTENANCE. WHO BOTHERS TO LOOK AFTER MINTENANCE ( COST AT LEAST 10% of ACTUAL TOTAL EXPENDITURES.)
8:05 10/10 unexpected GET OUT
NOT sure good or bad, I guess they will retire these KHI trains more quickly from now on....
I really hope, currently 5 KHI trains have not seen in service for over a week alr (with the now damaged 065/066 being the next)
Its all 2011 again
queens town to boonlay for first day
This can be in the history of books
Alr on Wikipedia lol
Took too long tbh
2:49 c651!!
I live on the East West Line bruhhhhhh
Ok at least 085/086 is better
Singapore is just a small tiny Country and yet this kind of transport issue happen again and again ! 😅 No surprise if Singapore Citizens keep voting for PAP and dare not change ! Singapore Citizens ask for it ! Don't complain and just live with it ! 😅
The Government refuse to accept simple truths. Generals and Colonels run MRT. Part of the top should include qualified/experienced Engineers.
Human error.
I would put this at top 3 of worst disruption, but not the worst in 37 years, mainly because no casualties were involved.
Joo Koon collision incident also have no deaths even though it is much worse too since one train acted as a three-car train 🤦♂️
8:26 money train ripoff🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Very embarrassing and disappointing.
Not really. Singapore is considered the best country in the world
Especially the KHI fleet now
How embarrassing?????? Just like the same when a person gets old,many types of illness occur.
especially when the far west has literally ONE mrt line to rely on
now that its out of action, ppl have to cram onto FBBs which is like applying thin tape to a leaking water tank, they dont do shit
@@fannychoo6301Yep that's true
But if you ask me
LTA should have realise that trains are used every day by commuters
Unlike train enthusiast, they like disruption compared to normal people as it disrupt their every day routine when they travel to work or school
Or anywhere else they need to go
Maintenance for public trains should be done quite as often as possible as these trains run every single day for everyone to use
This shouldn't have happened into the first place if LTA took train maintenance more seriously
Can't wait for the train track to repair, take taxi. What you want me to do. Not happy, just vote another party. Retirement age went upto 70, train is 35y only. I follow the policy. 😅😅😅😅😅
Hope Smrt can learn lessons from this
They already learnt their lessons as they will focus more on the KHIs compared to the other models
Wow CCL power fault then this bullcrap
Also 6 MRT lines, 2 LRT lines, 1 unreliable LRT line
With these sort of problem the minister of transport is still can service.
Useless company
Now, that's not very nice to say when your country has highly regarded as the best public transport in Asia, maybe not as Japan best, but you get the idea. As a Malaysian, I think Singapore has a very good bus and rail integration. I can confirm that if you come to my country and ride our PT for yourself, you'll be grateful to have your country's public transport system. We have decent LRT MRT and Bus service, although not the best and frequencies need to be improved, but we're trying our best.
bro hasnt seen alstom r151 and dtl on its debut
@@nicholashoi3155 i think he meant khi
You are useless
@@DOGEE_FOREVER oh, well, should've specified 😅😅
Bro why take 077/078 its the worst set possible to take
Mrt this time facing a super major crisis is a good experience for the management ,government & workers ,as i am saying if the mrt running smooth all this decade mights well we just get a clerk run the whole operations 🚉🚉🚉