We Found a Rare Nintendo M82 Kiosk System Covered in ***** | Trash to Treasure Part 1
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This Trash to Treasure restoration very nearly ended up as nothing but trash. Discovered in a disgusting state by GingerHippyGaming it's a miracle that we rescued it. Today we start work on a restoration to bring the Nintendo M82 back to its former glory.
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Is your right eyebrow ok? I saw it looking a bit off compared to the other one, I was like, hopefully didn’t get hurt 🫤
@@StickFiguresMasterI’m pleased to report that both brows are fully operational. Thank you for your concern
The guy wanting 4 figures after tossing it in the trash is just crazy....
He should be donating to you for all the hard work you've done... 👍🏼
Sounds like the owner is an asshole - refusing them to film the place & when someone identifies "trash" as something worth something expecting a large amount when it was covered in poop & completely non-working condition?
Greed.
Always hated those assholes, who grab everything they can and then sell for as much as possible, never giving a s#it about anything but money
Could as well just donate to a museum, but no, better choke on his dozen Franklins
these were selling for 4 figures over 10 years ago, how is he crazy?
The owner wanting 4 figures after the condition it was in and all the work you're doing on it to have it functional is pushing it up hill.
Keep in mind my videos are released a week ahead to patrons so I’ve had time to discuss this further since making it. I’ll have news for part 2
Just want to add I am the guy that found this and made the first vid striping it down. But I am not the owner or am getting money from it. All I wanted was for this demo unit to he saved and enjoyed by as many people as possible
You might want to bear in mind that the guy who came to do basically nothing to my central heating charged me £350 for 2.5 hours of work. Fixing 80s electronics work requires more skills too...
@gingerhippygaming7962 how much is 4 figures exactly ?
So the owner threw it in the bin, it was saved by someone else, and now he wants 4 figures for it...... hmmm... lol
Holy shit it was restored and works still worth a lil under the asking price. Go look online and find me one that hasn't been restored
The owner had a pristine 6-7 figure gaming collection and just forgot about it and let it rot. He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed to say the least.
Well technically someone the owner is trusting to help him work though the pile spotted it and pulled it out.
@@144megabytes Yes, but it was in the bin ready for the dumpster...
I bet if you threw something away without knowing its true value and then you learn that true value you'd want what its worth.
@19:30 I particularly like that it says “No user serviceable parts inside - do not open” as you are servicing the parts inside and it is very much open!!!
Nintendo always used to put that….
@@gmcnewlook oh I’m sure they did, but it’s wonderfully ironic. Alanis can learn from this video
@@PaulAndHisUkulele Nintendo were officially servicing NES units until the end of 2003 almost. Good old days when you could still fix elecronics; good oversight, and even partially descriptive circuit boards. Try doing that with electronics today! I wouldn't even know how to solder SMD parts.
The keyword here is "user". A modern collector with some practice (de)soldering stuff on junk boards and access to retro console repair info on UA-cam and forums can quickly become quite a bit more knowledgeable and capable than a Nintendo repair technician in the 80s.
So he threw it in the bin, and now he wants four figures!?!?!? WTF??????
Stupid ppl let others take advantage of them. Just don’t. Bother with cleaning it.
two different people.
Where in the video is it stated?
probably thought it was just a broken computer until he got told what it actually is, now it's time to rake in the cash lol
@@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755This is why you never show real interest when you find something rare and the guy who owns it doesn't know what it really is... Let him give you his trash, then you can get amazed. People like this owner get me on my nerves really quick.
These things were a roller coaster of emotion. You'd walk into Debenhams and see the machine standing there without a crowd around it, so you'd race over excited to get some 30 second play time on Ghosts n Goblins only to find there were no controllers plugged in (hence the lack of crowd).
I think i actually used one of these back around 1990 - 92 maybe, either this or something similar, it was the only time i ever saw anything like it. While waiting for my mother at this department store, i played Mario 3. I was mostly impressed by this arcade like NES setup. I nearly forgot until seeing this video. Hard to remember very much detail beyond that.
Same for me, Debenhams in Romford on the top floor. Most days after school
Wow, you guys found an m82. I lived 4 blocks away from Nintendo of America in Redmond WA during the early 1990s, and was a product/game tester. I remember having service calls to fix kiosks, and demo cabinets around western WA. Great work guys.
The owner sounds like a real money grabber. Why don't they just donate it to the Cave; I mean they'd literally thrown it out already!
Logically correct, he already "sold" it to the bin :)
Looks like he got a free repair as well. Expect to see this on ebay for thousands. I wouldnt have touched it until I owned it, all this has done has given the greedy owner more money for no effort.
Well it's for sure a shame the owner is not an enthusiast and philanthropist and it is in this "just for the money" but at least all these stuff is getting out there in the market and not in landfill, that, that would be way worse and a real disgrace!
Maybe a package deal, where he gets the price if he throws additional stuff in :)
@@RetroTinkerer For the money it will go for it will end up in another collectors hoarded pile of dusty retro trinkets until he can flog it for even more dosh or he dies and its probably chucked in landfill anyway. Shame really as it deserves to be somewhere that the public can enjoy it like the cave.
The M82 is the reason I got my first Nintendo. I went straight to it every time we went in Pic-N-Save, a defunct store similar to Walmart in the US, when Walmart stores were smaller. I would play it for an hour or more while my parents shopped and my dad always said no when I asked for a Nintendo. And then I showed him the golf game on the M82. He played it for a few minutes and grumbled something about video games being a waste of time. Two weeks later, I came home from school and they were standing in the corner of the living room with their backs to the wall and grinning, obviously hiding something behind them. It was the NES with Mario and Duck Hunt, 2 controllers, and zapper. It also had Excite Bike and, you guessed it, Golf games. I only had to share it with my dad for a weekend and then he lost interest. Lol.
Four figure sum? For a machine that was literally in the bin, that is asking far too much. This belongs in The Cave especially as you have restored it, I hope you can get it for a sensible price.
No stupid.
I got to play an M82 back in the early 90’s when checked in to the hospital, you could book an hour at a time and the nurses would wheel in the cart. It was amazing
Wow I don't think they do that anymore. Plus modern systems take forever to load and are so expensive.
Wow I don't think they do that anymore. Plus modern systems take forever to load and are so expensive.
Wow I don't think they do that anymore. Plus modern systems take forever to load and are so expensive.
Wow I don't think they do that anymore. Plus modern systems take forever to load and are so expensive.
Wow I don't think they do that anymore. Plus modern systems take forever to load and are so expensive.
the delivery driver must have had so many urges to lob that thing into the truck with how much fragile tape it had on it lol
I hope the owner of it isn't too greedy after you've done all of these work.
how to knock a swindler down on his 4 figure sum! step 1 - don't plug in the controller header and claim its broken xD
Charge those same four figures for the repairs.
The owner can't ask Neil to pay 4 figures for that. That thing was basically dead and buried. Look at all the work Neil had to put in to get the Nintendo to work. The owner should be asking for a really low 3 figure sum just out of respect in my opinion.
Amazing work Neil and so glad this has ended up with you. Not only are you the right person to save this bit of Nintendo history. But the fact it will live out its days at the cave so everyone can enjoy it. It's been a pleasure to be a small part of its history. Thanks Neil for taking on this challenge
I remember trying out several games on a M82 at a Venture department store in the Midwest US around 1987-1988. They had it fully loaded with games and I think the timer was setup for 120 seconds. It was setup on top of a glass display case with a small TV on top. At first the store kept all NES games & consoles in glass cases similar to what was used in the jewelry department. Later on when the store installed upright glass cases to keep games & consoles in the M82 disappeared. I guess they felt they were selling enough games w/o the need for customers to be able to try them out in advance.
Later on when the SNES launched the Venture store had a different system setup to demo SMW but it did not stay for very long. I remember trying it out just a few days after the SNES launched, coming back a couple of weeks later to buy a SNES with my parents using money I had saved for months and when I came back again shortly before Christmas that year the SNES display unit was gone.
Back in the NES and very early SNES days Nintendo had strong retail presence in Finland too thanks to independent importer. Those demo units were installed at many stores.
Was it Bandai in Finland, like here in Norway?
@@computer_toucher No, we had a local company called Funente which went bankrupt in '93.
I used to assemble these, and the coin op versions when I worked at nintendo in 1987 :)
Ironically, while working there, no employees were allowed to play the games on their lunch breaks :). My expertise was affixing the large player choice 10 stickers on the sides of the cabinets, and adjusting the RGB convergence on the CRTs for the Players Choice 10 machines.
If the grabage carage dude asks for 4 figure sum, did he take note of the restoration? He/she should be selling it with the amount someone would buy this as a broken item.
It's not much but put it towards aquiring this excellent piece of gaming history!
Thank you so much! That’s really kind of you
Hopefully this makes it into the museum so others can enjoy it. Not just sitting in someone's collection gathering dust. Considering all the hard work you put into restoring it.
Without whishing to cause a stir, being clueless enough to throw something in the bin but greedy enough to ask 4 figures when someone points out its collectable speaks volumes of what many of us in the retro scene have come to expect. Neil you've been a lot more polite in your commentary than I would have been and I doff my cap to you for that.
I could only imagine the "treasure hunting" feeling at such a place....and the dissapointment to see so much ruined stuff that is rare today to see in the open!
Those demo units were installed at many stores and I have some good memories playing on a Nintendo M82 unit in a large shoping market as a kid from time- to time when we where there shoping. I remember plaing Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, TaleSpin and some other Nintendo title.
Sega had one at same place I rember testing Sylvester & Tweety and Dennis the Menace
I think preserving the hardware from potential corrosion by giving it a full ultrasonic to get rid of hidden contaminants, outweighs saving the stickers personally.
Strange that someone would toss anything old that has a Nintendo logo on it. These things are cool.
That's how i came to my Nintendo 2 door showcase. A friend of mine knew a guy who had a game store where i live and that closed and he helped them clean it out. The showcase was in the basement and he wanted to throw it out, and then my friend took it and gave it to me for free. That was around 8-10 years ago.
What is this intriguing "Nintendo 2 door showcase"?
Don't leave us hanging! (if it's too much to write an essay about it, please point us in the right direction)
Hope you're charging the greedy tw*t a tidy sum for the restoration.
I think this packaging needs more FRAGILE labels.
Bellis Fair in Bellingham, Washington had some of these in the late 80s/early 90s. We lived north of the border, in Vancouver, BC, but would make trips there a couple times of year. Huge crowd of kids would always be around it, left their by their parents as they shopped. Good memories of waiting in line for your 3 minutes of fun.
Excellent work Neal! Cheers from Greece
For those of you that want to buy anything from the guy who throwed that system in trash and now wants 4 digits money without doing anything to save it, just tell him to eat all of them with the bird poop on them and buy nothing from him period.
The person who threw it into the bin wasn't the one who now want's four figures. The person who recognized it and saved it from getting trashed now want's that sum. Though I think they should give a nice discount considering all the hard work on getting into it's current condition that shows it's nearly restored and functional now.
I love how it says "Do not open. No user serviceable parts inside." Excellent video and thank you for saving this unique piece of video gaming history. Subscription earned.
We had one at the Retro Computer Museum for a while, but owner has taken it back now. It is certainly and intereting device. Funny thing is I felt I could smell the magic smoke as it came out of the old PSU!
I remember trying one of these at a kiosk in the Northgate mall in Seattle, WA. Wishing you the best of luck in securing it for your museum, this is definitely a treasure that deserves to be seen and played.
I remember my local Sears had one of these in the middle of their shoe department for some reason. Seemed like these were all over the place for a brief while.
Nice find! I remember playing NES games on one of these at Highland department store back in 86/87 as a kiddo. Brings back memories!
Yes the age old "you'll be surprised what people throwaway" dynamic. It really doesn't surprise me to see this. Thats how the only surviving Nintendo PlayStation ended up being boxed up with a bunch of office supplies. Captain Blue said best people make things and then throw them away when they're bored and done with them
23:23 his face on the CRT reflection... We feel you bud! Good luck on finishing the repair.
an easier fix for the wire at 20:40 would probably have been to just do all of them new. pull out all cables, and reinstall the connector a few cm further down the cable. lay down the cables on the pins, place the bracket and press it down with a vise making sure the connector is straight. then you can trim the excess wire with a knife
17:21 When it turn on, its warm my icy heart. Good Job!
The pigeon poop just acted as a protective coating. 😂🕊💩
The dude trying to charge 4 figures after tossing it in the trash has no idea how bad hes fucked up. We all know of your greed now. we do not forget.
Yes, this is how I played Nintendo games before I owned the console at my local wal-mart back in the day! That would have been the summer of 87.
I love real restorations with real, documented history behind them. You and GingerHippyGaming got an immediate subscription from me.
Thanks Adam!
This is probably my most wanted retro item. I will own one, I just need the right numbers.
Camerons in Ballymena had this and I was always intrigued by how it worked with all those games in it. I honestly thought it was an upgrade for the NES.
i love the fact that your preferred term for bird turds is debris.
To those confused the by blue barrel jack:
They were blue on PAL consoles, black on North American consoles. They definitely didn’t have RGB in either region though so if that part confused you, it’s because it’s just wrong. ;)
I thought Super Mario Bros 3 was a strange one to show as an example of what you might put in it when that one in particular requires a mod to work right.
What mod do you think SMB3 needs to work? I don't understand.
@@althejazzman It’s in the GameTechUS/Kevtris M82 video where they add a missing signal to one column of cartridge slots. I believe it was the signal the mapper chip needs for counting scanlines so that it can correctly place the floor on the title screen and non-scrolling info panels on the map and gameplay screens.
@@emmettturner9452I love these sorts of technical explanations, thanks!
As I understood what he was saying, there's some RGB signal sent from the console into the composite encoder box which turns it into a standard TV signal. "RGB" here may not be in a format that you could just solder wires to and feed into an RGB monitor or VGA plug; it'd just be the raw video in some form that isn't YUV composite with standard analog TV sync signals, color burst, etc yet.
@@joemck85 …except I understood him the same way you did and that is what I was correcting. :)
Even internally there is only composite video since that’s what comes from pin 21 on the PPU. They even had to make two versions of the PPU for PAL vs NTSC composite since there was no external encoder to replace with a PAL version. The PPU is where the graphics are generated in the first place so that means there is no RGB of any kind available anywhere in a standard NES/Famicom PPU, including the one inside a M82 kiosk. There is no RGB to composite encoder in the power/RF/AV box. The box doesn’t even handle the composite video amplification (done by the Q1 transistor on the mainboard).
You see the graphics are generated inside the PPU which also serves as the DAC and composite video encoder so there are no digital or analog RGB signals on the board to grab. The NES PPU encodes to composite and outputs on pin 21 but RGB is not connected (NC) in the chip package at all. The NC pins that would be used for RGB on an RGB-capable PPU are instead tied to ground in the M82/NES version meaning there is no accessible RGB anywhere in the system… not even a digital RGB signal like PAL N64 or late NTSC N64 consoles.
Yes, NES-compatible RGB PPUs exist, but not for the NES. The only compatible PPUs with RGB come from Nintendo PlayChoice 10 and Nintendo Vs System arcade machines or the Sharp Famicom Titler. They also have an intentionally altered color pallet baked in to the PPU… sometimes so different that they serve as a copy protection for Nintendo Vs System arcade games (must swap ROMs and PPUs together to change games in your Nintendo Vs. System arcade cabinet).
To mod an NES for RGB essentially requires recreating the PPU in order to generate your own digital graphics and then do the RGB DAC conversion yourself. A NESRGB kit is essentially a clone PPU implemented in FPGA that piggybacks the original PPU so that they can run side by side. An FPGA can just as easily clone entire consoles, so you essentially turn your console into a partial clone when you install these RGB mods.
I have an absolutely mint M82 in storage right now. My mom worked in a coast guard base retail store as customer service manager and after they got the SNES displays in they were getting ready to trash the NES one, she snagged it for me because I didn't have a console. It's "just" the smaller unit meant to be put on top of a display case and not the larger free standing ones. For the longest time this was my NES and I used it as a regular game console. Yeah, I tended to like games with password saves because of the time limit.
I didn't get the SNES unit sadly because she had moved on by the time they aged out. It was super nice and I was up there all the time playing SMW. Awesome little screen on that one.
No plans to sell mine because of the sentimental value, and I'm hoping that one day I can make a dedicated room for all of my videogame crap where it'll live again. Still works fine, I just fired it up a few minutes ago. Also glad I never gave in to the urge to sell my games when prices went sky high. What would I buy with the money that would be as cool? Besides my mom worked her ass off to buy me those games, it's not right to sell them.
The owner should be ashamed of himself... Fancy charging for something that was in a skip waiting to go to oblivion. I wish him the same thing Spike Milligan wished Chris Evans on that delightful room 101 episode. (if you know, you know)
I remember these in Dixons, must have been late 80s. I was mesmerized. I haven't seen it since this video, thank you for sharing. 🎉🎉
Great work mate , a tip to save your fingers when cleaning screws , put them in the chuck of a drill and hold the sand paper as the drill is turning
I'm shocked at the lack of corrosion overall on the PCBs. Good job.
21:16 Anyone else getting some serious Knight Rider repair vibes? Just look at what they did to KITT!!!
Nice Pooptendo! Great work rescuing it! I hope this lands into your museum as soon as possible!
Owner needs to come to his senses and donate! Cmon!
Wait, you put a RIFA cap back in? This is the first time I've seen a RIFA replaced that someone didn't upgrade to a polymer equivalent to avoid the eventual RIFA failure smoke show and accompanying bad smell.
The new rifa is not the same as the old one. The manufacturer fixed its problems long ago.
This. Fool me once...I don't care...it's a RIFA...just get a higherqaulity one with same specs. This is like when people replace wipe DIP sockets with wipe instead of machine pin. Just spend a few cents extra. Make your time worth it.
Wow I used this game kiosk as a kid in the 1990s here in Sweden. It was so nice to see you restore it.
“De-pooping” lol. I love that term.
Simply OUTSTANDING!!!
Amazing piece of videogame history and a terrific job of restauration!
Congratulations and THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING!
I feel like people need to listen more closely... The owner didn't throw it away. 0:13 "It had been put in the bin by the teaming clearing out the space."
So happy to see this part 2 after seeing Simon's discovery video. As I did indeed play these at a few Dixon stores in or near London back in the late 80's to very early 90"s with Duck Hunt, Mario 3 and Bat man coming to mind
Great video. I was very excited to watch the restoration as it progressed, and then felt so sad at the end when you said you still needed to work out a deal with the owner. I do hope the owner is reasonable. After all your friend literally pulled it from the trash, and you spent the time to restore it with your own time, and additional parts.
Oh, wow! Right before my parents bought me my first Nintendo, I used to play with one of those displays in the store. I remember when my parents finally said I could get one, picking one of the boxes up next to all the other kids, and another kid looking at me and said, "Lucky duck!" I believe I went home that day with "The Legend of Zelda" in addition to the bundled games. That unit has since come and gone, but I have replaced it with another one I have now added to my personal collection. I can't wait to see how this one turns out!
Not sure where you got your bgm for the cleaning montage, but 1) it fits right in with the overall aesthetic of the video (80s video games & related)and 2) I love it. I’ve always liked synth wave music, so thank you for this.
Great video and very cool to see one of these.I had forgotten about this retail demo system! Brings back memories of seeing it at department stores as a kid and being disappointed with the demo reset time period. 😆
Its good to see this kind of love and dedication for rare old demo units
I remember playing with one of these at the local Wal-Mart as a kid! So cool that you were able to save it. And I love the Lupus Nocte music you used, and how you actually pronounce "solder" the way it looks, unlike us Americans.
Wow! Fantastic restoration. The seller should donate this to the cave! All that work, just look at it now.
Was amazing seeing this marvellous machine today in the cave. Restored to all it's glory, the work you do is remarkable.
I've been to game museum's before and you are not allowed to touch let alone play with the games. By allowing people to play with these machines you're keeping fond memories alive.
I look forward to coming back will probably do the double session next time. Let's hope you have Dungeon Keeper out 😜 (I promise I won't play it till 3am like my dad)
Haha brilliant 😀 It was great to meet you today and hear your memories. Dungeon Keeper is on the list!
Amazing, on one of these machines was the only way I ever got to play the NES back in the day, infact ever! Me and my best mate used to head to Exeter and play on that thing until the store manager would kick us out each time, haha. Great nostalgia seeing one brought back to life.
As soon as I saw that dead cap I knew it was a RIFA. Notorious for blowing up and they absolutely *reek* when they do.
At one time, the individual who collected all these items in that werehouse, was just like us; nerds searching for info on our our favorite hobby, video games. In fact, a future "warehouse of trash" may be forming, right in your own shelves.
Oh yes. I worked at a Dixons store (Wilmslow) backnin the early 90s and this featured in regular rotation along with other displays. Always had kids playing on it. I always wondered what happened to it. Im guessing ours was binned as was so so many of those things after use. Trying to recall what games were on our unit. Hmmm. Ones I remember? Snake rattle n roll. Solstice. Wrestling. SmB1. Good times
"I already tossed it in the rubbish... But now you've rescued it, cleaned and fixed it, I want a plop-load of cash."
Hmm, back in the bin with it..? Or maybe your repair and parts bill could run to the same four figures?
Thank you so much! Been missing the trash to treasure series so much...❤
Fantastic restoration job! Well done!
The transformer that let out the magic smoke looks like it is just a common mode choke, the PSU would work without it (and the X class caps too) however it would radiate out common mode interference that could degrade analog radio and TV reception (like the RF modulator) good choice on the replacement PSU and nice video! :)
Great work. So satisfying to see you rescue a cool part of Nintendo's history.
I like such trash-to-treasure extreme clean&repair episodes. Somehow they excite my imagination. :) Congrats on the rescue and the repair of the Nintendo M82. Cheers. :)
Yeah the psu is the one thing I wouldn't mess around with. I'm glad you replaced it!
Excellent work. This absolutely needs to be in a museum.
Me, yelling at the video in an Indiana Jones voice, "It belongs in a museum!".
Not in a museum but in RMC museum! 😂
I love that this video popped in my suggestions! Amazing channel! Thank you for saving and preserving all that history!
Thanks Miro and welcome to The Cave!
ok thank you for using everything for cleaning! it was driving me crazy that you guys where not like legit cleaning it lol
There was one of these in my local Dixons shop in Fareham uk and would walk through it everyday after school to play it. It would give me about about 30 seconds of playtime before it reset and start all over again. Memories
Chip and Dale was one of my favourite games.
It's so nice to see this machine slowly getting back to operational condition. I do hope you can secure it at a sensible price.
Wow, I remember queuing up to play on one of this back in 89 or 90 in a Spanish department store. It was mounted to the top of a cabinet, right above the screen, and it was so fascinating to me!
I distinctly remember the click and feel of that Game Select button. So satisfying to press, just like on the Play Choice 10
Used to play on one of these in Debenhams Cambridge, in 1990, we would cycle down after school and play until the staff told us leave. :)
Man, I really love these elite British retro gaming shows.
Always great to see M82's rescued and brought back to life!
Just to be sure; Remember that pressing the game change button is required for it to enter normal operation mode. If you don't press the game change button once, it'll just loop in 30 sec attract mode between the available carts.
Also, is it missing the Play Time limiter switch? (w/out it'll default to 128 min. before cycling to the next game).
And, I guess this was known, just not mentioned; they're not compatible with all NES games unless you mod it.
Awesome work. Hopefully they give you a fair deal.
The fact it housed 12 cartridges, had 2 game pad hookups, and had a select mechanism tells me this old warehouse may have housed a retro console arcade, and that was one of the cabinets
I used to go in Dixons in Enfield Town on the way home from school to play one of these with my friends. Snake Rattle N Roll was one of our faves!
This was the episode that got you my subscription. Absolutely loving your channel so far. =)
Amazing restoration! Good point about not washing the board - I love how well they come up but indeed you remove all the labels and all the signs of their long lives.
I have re-crimped whole ribbon cables like yours - Apple II so it was even the same colours! - Cut nicely a centimetre or so of the cable from the plug, remove the leftovers, then align the freshly cut cable on the crimps, align the clamp on top and press everything with a vice. It works like a charm.
Looking forward to the next episode!
The M82's old RF modulator probably just needs to be re-capped, that and the rectifier bridge are the only issues I've seen with them in the past, having repaired about a dozen NES consoles. Spraying some Deoxit in the chip sockets on the main board may help resolve some issues?