Just did the internal battery mod. So far my favorite controller mod. Just waiting on my wired controller to arrive in the mail so i can swap it over to my newly modded wireless so there arent any nasty cuts on the bottom.. Gonna be MAAAD!!
Im actually thinking of doing this because im about to order an xcm x1 plus shell and instead of its motion sensor i was going to wire a tact switch to it but i dont really want one on the back of my controller near my right finger because i already have one for my left finger to control my 53 mode octofire mod and it would just be plain annoying. So not only would this give me more room, but it would be a lot less annoying to put a 3v to 5v step up converter and a bluetooth rgb controller for the lights.
@SarniaMods the original batteries in the rechargable pack are going to be nearly identical to any other rechargable AA battery in terms of capacity and run time. The batteries that come in the battery pack will have small tabs that are spot welded onto the battery terminals, it is to this little peice of metal that is easiest to solder to. If you do deciede to use other batteries you will need to prep the terminals for soldering. A light sanding to rough up the terminals surface and hot iron
@xConway22x the leds are standard 5mm leds, i use a total of 5, one per button. The four on the right (ABXY) are all wired in parallel and soldered to the right rumble motor pad while the one "MENU" button led is wired to the left rumble motor pad. NO resistors are to be used because the voltage from the pads is low enough that you don't need them, if you do use one theres a chance the leds wont come on at all. Also make sure the LEDs are in parallel, not series, and use the correct polarity.
@mattsprogects Its what ever works for you, i was running low on the thinner wire so i had to use something a little thicker for the battery wires just to mach sure i had enough to wire up the buttons. Controllers are not high drain devices so a thin wire to connect up the batteries wont be a problem.
the thing with the battery pack is cool, never seen it before like this. i made myself these lighted buttons and it was a pain inthe ass to fit the cables when you put everything together. would never do it again.
I did a very similar mod, except i used a super slim battery bank thats used to charge cell phones. I used to router to get the battery pack off, and then built the square lithium battery into the back. Its much thinner, but its not completely flat like this one. I used auto body filler to recreate the back of the controller, so its basically permanently in there unless i chip away the body filler lol. Used some matte black spray paint, sanded the paint with 3000 grit around the areas where it met the original controllers plastic and you can't even tell the difference. I dont think i would do this, since the only reason i installed a rechargeable battery is because the rumble motors kill AA batteries too fast, but i enjoy the rumbling lol. Great build regardless! maybe the next ones I mod, I can get it flat like yours lol. But i would fill the hole with auto body filler still and get a nice flat finish on the back instead of the acrylic.
@Dioasify Yes, a switch to toggle the lights on and off is definately do-able. And yes, this is my favorite controller to game with, not having the battery pack on the underside leaves more room for my fingers and i think makes it more confortable to hold.
@gageisbeastyboy you'll have to use either solder wick or a desoldering pump like i did to remove the solder thats holding it on. Once all four contacts have been desoldered it will come right off.
@gamerkid1177 the blue leds in the rol only remain that bright in the top 25% of the batterys charge, once the batteries drop off past that they get pretty dull and dim. I have another controller with a red rol and they stay nice and bright thoughout the entire battery charge just like the original green leds
@JustDontTouchME Only a little bit, i had to take it slow cause the melting plastic would sometimes build up and make it hard to see how far i was grinding. Once it was reasonably close i just did the rest by hand with sand paper. Its called a "helping hands" tool, it makes soldering this so much easier. I got mine from RadioShack.
it's only against the rule if you modify it to game advantage in a game, like rapid fire chips, you can modify how it looks and feels, even add buttons on the back like scuff controllers have as all your doing is relocating the button
@gageisbeastyboy just need to grab it with some pliers, and while your pulling on it run the sotering iron across the 4 tabs it takes a bit but it will work.
@andretodopoderoso7 It was actually quite a tight fit in there. What i don't show in the vid is me removing the rumble motor mounts and the last screw mounts on both halves of the controller to make space for the batteries. Thanks :D
@nick57anthony Are you refferring to 3:05 where i remove the four contacts for the rechargeable batt pack. The four pins are soldered down on the other side of the board, the solder has to be heated up and removed before the pins can be removed for the board. Simply pulling it out wont work cause you can damage the traces which you will later need to solder wires to when reconnecting power. Heat up the solder with your iron and remove the solder either with solder wick or a solder sucker.
@FrigginSmift Thanks for responding. I have some cg2 boards laying around was wondering if you could install leds into them. Also im thinking about doing what you did in this video to 1 of my controllers.
@ripppking With this set up the LEDs only flash when there is supposed to be a vibration. The internal battery pack mod cannot be done if the rumble motors are still in the controller as there is not enough room, hence why i had to take them out. I traded vibration for flashing lights and took advatage of the freed space in the controller to internalize the battery
what kind of wires do you use to connect them like the thik one and the thin ones is the thik 24gauge and what kind of heat shrink did you use to. SWEET CONTROLLER!!!
could you please do a step by step tut on what to soder and what to use for the ruble mod and for the A,B,X,Y, buttons and what to do with the battery pack what to solder that to it would be a big help
It looks good but, personally i dont like the way you attached the leds into the abxy buttons. they only light up when you press the triggers and for me it would be annoying.
Ya i love the video, but could you be a little more specific? I mean, when you say connect the leds to the rumble... how in the crap do you do that? And also connecting the batteries to the board..?
@MrTylorGross I started making these back in may of 09 without any instructions of knowledge that anything like this had been done before, so i do apologize. Also, your search term "muemue" doesn't seen to turn up anything other than hawaiian shirts : /
@andrewd010 I thought about that but i would of had to of bought a wired controller aswell to get the back, instead i went with the clear black, plus now i get to look inside and see the circuit board.
Just tried this and after hooking up to a charge and play setup after failing to start up when testing the batteries after removing the main power connector on the mobo, ,and it was a no go. Went right over to my next mobo and plug and play worked, hope i dont fry this one too : \
i think i screwed my controller. i soldered the logic board for the battery pack on the controller backwards, plugged it in, and turned it on. it worked, but now the controller wont turn on at all. the strange part is, if i connect it to my jtag and press the power button on the controller, it turns the console on, but not the controller on.
+ICanDoRedstone if you crossed the wires the controller wouldn't have turned on at all. im guessing you have some stray solder contacting points and causing a short.. tear it back apart and check all your solder points and make sure nothing is shorting out. also check for cracked solder joints or cold solder joints..
the rumble for the 360 controllers not only takes it outta the battery like anything it also kills the controller faster than normal. Its pretty fucking intense.
Those rumble Motors look huge my phone vibrates and it defiantly can't fit those in there so I was wondering if you could get phone rumble to work in there if I can say it properly
Nice video, but some tips to everyone who wants to have a go; don't pull plugs out via the wire as he did with the rumble motors and be a little more careful when using a Dremel tool, can hurt like a bitch if it catches you!
im in the prossece of making your controller because u inpired me to do so. i just cut off the battery with my dremel and sanded it down i also took apart the batttery pack and have correct wire lengh but i cant seem to get my solder to sick to my battery. plus i went out and bought some energizer rechargeable's to use those to replace the tiditional batterys that were in the battery pack.
As a personal recomendation, please don't claim responsibility and attempt to be the innovator of the internal batter pack. Search muemue on Google. And secondly, I would much rather prefer a smooth surface on the rear facing of the controller I personally used a wired controller housing with wireless guts and the charge pack.
can you post a list of the items we need to buy in order to make this, also is there a way we can do this w/out making it rumble activation. please let me asap
hey i had a question for the LEDs so they only activate when u get vibration?and can i leave the rumble motors on instead of placing the LEDs in its location?
im trying to do the same but put the leds all over my controller beacuse i got a clear shell so i want it all to light up not just the buttoms but i aint got a clue wat leds i need or wire or resistors can u help me ?
could i use a C battery istead of the 2 AA in the plug n play?? i would b using the circuit board from the plug n play but no the batteries.. let me know if u think that will work. i want the controller to vibrate plus have internal batteries.. let me know what u think. thnx
Well, it's pretty awesome... except the fact that the ever more enjoyable rumble feature is now gone...
That is one awesome controller! Good job!
Just did the internal battery mod. So far my favorite controller mod. Just waiting on my wired controller to arrive in the mail so i can swap it over to my newly modded wireless so there arent any nasty cuts on the bottom.. Gonna be MAAAD!!
Does the wired controller back shell actually fit onto the wireless front shell? Hopefully you still have your account and can see this :P
Im actually thinking of doing this because im about to order an xcm x1 plus shell and instead of its motion sensor i was going to wire a tact switch to it but i dont really want one on the back of my controller near my right finger because i already have one for my left finger to control my 53 mode octofire mod and it would just be plain annoying. So not only would this give me more room, but it would be a lot less annoying to put a 3v to 5v step up converter and a bluetooth rgb controller for the lights.
dude your a genius
for the charging cable, i took the old green and red one off, put a red 0603 led for charging and a white one for charged
@SarniaMods the original batteries in the rechargable pack are going to be nearly identical to any other rechargable AA battery in terms of capacity and run time. The batteries that come in the battery pack will have small tabs that are spot welded onto the battery terminals, it is to this little peice of metal that is easiest to solder to. If you do deciede to use other batteries you will need to prep the terminals for soldering. A light sanding to rough up the terminals surface and hot iron
@xConway22x the leds are standard 5mm leds, i use a total of 5, one per button. The four on the right (ABXY) are all wired in parallel and soldered to the right rumble motor pad while the one "MENU" button led is wired to the left rumble motor pad. NO resistors are to be used because the voltage from the pads is low enough that you don't need them, if you do use one theres a chance the leds wont come on at all. Also make sure the LEDs are in parallel, not series, and use the correct polarity.
that is mint dude, good, clean work there
would have been better if you made the buttons light up when the rumble pack goes off that way its easyer to know when your getting fired upon
RT is shoot so same concept, works both ways! 👍
11 years
@mattsprogects Its what ever works for you, i was running low on the thinner wire so i had to use something a little thicker for the battery wires just to mach sure i had enough to wire up the buttons. Controllers are not high drain devices so a thin wire to connect up the batteries wont be a problem.
Cut open some solid strand Cat5e to raid it's wire.
I do mods as well i mod with led abxy and thumbsticks also i add a on and off switch nice controller
wow your awesome i wish i had skills like yours to make these things keep up on the videos :D
Shame that evil vision stopped making battery backplate for the 360 but this is so awesome!
Nope, just normal stranded wired, preferably a small gauge so its easier to work with in the controllers tight spaces
the thing with the battery pack is cool, never seen it before like this.
i made myself these lighted buttons and it was a pain inthe ass to fit the cables when you put everything together. would never do it again.
Damn that's a good build
Cool mod. Just seems like the rumble flashes would get hella annoying. Rear led lights would be cool for the clear back or go solid color acrylic
I did a very similar mod, except i used a super slim battery bank thats used to charge cell phones. I used to router to get the battery pack off, and then built the square lithium battery into the back. Its much thinner, but its not completely flat like this one. I used auto body filler to recreate the back of the controller, so its basically permanently in there unless i chip away the body filler lol. Used some matte black spray paint, sanded the paint with 3000 grit around the areas where it met the original controllers plastic and you can't even tell the difference. I dont think i would do this, since the only reason i installed a rechargeable battery is because the rumble motors kill AA batteries too fast, but i enjoy the rumbling lol. Great build regardless! maybe the next ones I mod, I can get it flat like yours lol. But i would fill the hole with auto body filler still and get a nice flat finish on the back instead of the acrylic.
@Dioasify Yes, a switch to toggle the lights on and off is definately do-able. And yes, this is my favorite controller to game with, not having the battery pack on the underside leaves more room for my fingers and i think makes it more confortable to hold.
@gageisbeastyboy you'll have to use either solder wick or a desoldering pump like i did to remove the solder thats holding it on. Once all four contacts have been desoldered it will come right off.
@gamerkid1177 the blue leds in the rol only remain that bright in the top 25% of the batterys charge, once the batteries drop off past that they get pretty dull and dim. I have another controller with a red rol and they stay nice and bright thoughout the entire battery charge just like the original green leds
My battery is running out so quick
@JustDontTouchME Only a little bit, i had to take it slow cause the melting plastic would sometimes build up and make it hard to see how far i was grinding. Once it was reasonably close i just did the rest by hand with sand paper.
Its called a "helping hands" tool, it makes soldering this so much easier. I got mine from RadioShack.
it's only against the rule if you modify it to game advantage in a game, like rapid fire chips, you can modify how it looks and feels, even add buttons on the back like scuff controllers have as all your doing is relocating the button
*i would o it myself but i dont have the steady hands to pull off an operation like that
hes a man of many words
i might do this to a broken control. nice vid.
absolutely awesome work bro fuck what they say about it cause you do good work
@peelopuu You can remove them and leave those spots empty without experiencing any problems
@gageisbeastyboy just need to grab it with some pliers, and while your pulling on it run the sotering iron across the 4 tabs it takes a bit but it will work.
If that had a white back coloured plastic like the rest of the controller it would be perfect and look awesome..
@MrPeanut1999 no those are the buttons from the controller. the afterglow is a different design, i have one to and its crap.
@andretodopoderoso7 It was actually quite a tight fit in there. What i don't show in the vid is me removing the rumble motor mounts and the last screw mounts on both halves of the controller to make space for the batteries.
Thanks :D
sick as hell
not youtube captions. He wrote everything in throughout the video. Did you watch?
@nick57anthony Are you refferring to 3:05 where i remove the four contacts for the rechargeable batt pack. The four pins are soldered down on the other side of the board, the solder has to be heated up and removed before the pins can be removed for the board. Simply pulling it out wont work cause you can damage the traces which you will later need to solder wires to when reconnecting power. Heat up the solder with your iron and remove the solder either with solder wick or a solder sucker.
For anyone who is pissed b/c they thought this was a modded controller that fires automatically, remember mod stands for modification.
Awesome work
this is probably one of the nearly smexiest conroller mod ideas ive seen it could use some paint though.
5:04 how did you get the leds so perfectly sealed in the buttons ? did you use normal hot glue?
Right after you fill the buttons up with hot glue lick your finger and press your finger on top of the hot glue.
nice Tut... i'll add one more good tip though... Test the leds before you glue them in the buttons... :)
@FrigginSmift Thanks for responding. I have some cg2 boards laying around was wondering if you could install leds into them. Also im thinking about doing what you did in this video to 1 of my controllers.
Very helpful I'll b posting my results soon.
@ripppking With this set up the LEDs only flash when there is supposed to be a vibration. The internal battery pack mod cannot be done if the rumble motors are still in the controller as there is not enough room, hence why i had to take them out.
I traded vibration for flashing lights and took advatage of the freed space in the controller to internalize the battery
what kind of wires do you use to connect them like the thik one and the thin ones is the thik 24gauge and what kind of heat shrink did you use to. SWEET CONTROLLER!!!
THAT IS SO COOL. I WISH I COULD DO THAT.
oh and im probably going to do this now lol seems pretty cool
wow most amazing i have seen
could you please do a step by step tut on what to soder and what to use for the ruble mod and for the A,B,X,Y, buttons and what to do with the battery pack what to solder that to it would be a big help
@FrigginSmift oh ok cause i seen other remotes with LEDs in the buttons that can stay on without vibrations and such
@Pkishy4life Its a torx 8
Bestc mod ever
thats nice as hell id buy one from you.
That's really nice
It looks good but, personally i dont like the way you attached the leds into the abxy buttons. they only light up when you press the triggers and for me it would be annoying.
Too flashy? Lol.
I'm done on mine thank you very much
Ya i love the video, but could you be a little more specific? I mean, when you say connect the leds to the rumble... how in the crap do you do that? And also connecting the batteries to the board..?
@MrTylorGross I started making these back in may of 09 without any instructions of knowledge that anything like this had been done before, so i do apologize. Also, your search term "muemue" doesn't seen to turn up anything other than hawaiian shirts : /
@FrigginSmift looking at the back is cool btw
@andrewd010 I thought about that but i would of had to of bought a wired controller aswell to get the back, instead i went with the clear black, plus now i get to look inside and see the circuit board.
@jokerlikeskating its a "helping hands" or "third hand" tool, and i got mine from radioshack.
Thats exactly how they are wired up in the video
This is what you call a modded Xbox 360 controller
this looks sweet how much did this cost
and this isnt against the rules we r just changing the apprence
Just tried this and after hooking up to a charge and play setup after failing to start up when testing the batteries after removing the main power connector on the mobo, ,and it was a no go. Went right over to my next mobo and plug and play worked, hope i dont fry this one too : \
i think i screwed my controller. i soldered the logic board for the battery pack on the controller backwards, plugged it in, and turned it on. it worked, but now the controller wont turn on at all. the strange part is, if i connect it to my jtag and press the power button on the controller, it turns the console on, but not the controller on.
+ICanDoRedstone if you crossed the wires the controller wouldn't have turned on at all. im guessing you have some stray solder contacting points and causing a short.. tear it back apart and check all your solder points and make sure nothing is shorting out. also check for cracked solder joints or cold solder joints..
How will you get vibration
try to put the batteries in a different area
@nick57anthony Always solder them down :)
Well Done !!!
Very nice, although the downside would be no rumbling
the rumble for the 360 controllers not only takes it outta the battery like anything it also kills the controller faster than normal. Its pretty fucking intense.
Those rumble Motors look huge my phone vibrates and it defiantly can't fit those in there so I was wondering if you could get phone rumble to work in there if I can say it properly
I made one with black one it looks sick
Nice video, but some tips to everyone who wants to have a go; don't pull plugs out via the wire as he did with the rumble motors and be a little more careful when using a Dremel tool, can hurt like a bitch if it catches you!
Could you mod 360 so I wouldn't have that power brick hanging out the back?
How come kids cant have moded controllers for xbox 360 because I cant
Yes you can!
What about using a wired controller back plate vs 3+hrs of work on the wireless back... (BA mod btw)
thats sick
oh and is there something i could use instead of clear plastic? because i dont want to be able to see the board..
im in the prossece of making your controller because u inpired me to do so. i just cut off the battery with my dremel and sanded it down i also took apart the batttery pack and have correct wire lengh but i cant seem to get my solder to sick to my battery. plus i went out and bought some energizer rechargeable's to use those to replace the tiditional batterys that were in the battery pack.
Amazing!
As a personal recomendation, please don't claim responsibility and attempt to be the innovator of the internal batter pack. Search muemue on Google. And secondly, I would much rather prefer a smooth surface on the rear facing of the controller I personally used a wired controller housing with wireless guts and the charge pack.
that would be cool if it had a battery pack
can you post a list of the items we need to buy in order to make this, also is there a way we can do this w/out making it rumble activation. please let me asap
i so want to change the led colours in my controller as i prefer blue to green haha :D
@FrigginSmift can you use 30 awg wire for the batterys to the batterys circuit board?
hey i had a question for the LEDs
so they only activate when u get vibration?and can i leave the rumble motors on instead of placing the LEDs in its location?
so sick
Nice bro
If they were selling this controller
Make one, want help? It's cheap.
I did this exact same thing but i used a wired controller back.
HOW DO YOU CONNECT THE WIRES TO THE BATTERY PACK BOARD. MINE WONT STAY SODDERED?
that's why he has captions.
im trying to do the same but put the leds all over my controller beacuse i got a clear shell so i want it all to light up not just the buttoms but i aint got a clue wat leds i need or wire or resistors can u help me ?
That controller is cool does it work on the black contoller
yeah
It's pretty universal
awesome
how much would you charge to do this? I would do it mysse
I might be able to help you, I do this for fun...
could i use a C battery istead of the 2 AA in the plug n play??
i would b using the circuit board from the plug n play but no the batteries.. let me know if u think that will work. i want the controller to vibrate plus have internal batteries.. let me know what u think. thnx
i dont know were to connect the wires to the batters and the mother board please help
The spot you removed the original battery terminals from
em what soldering iron did you use
@BuTtRz420 Earlier in the video i show the removal of the rumble motors, thats were the leds get their power from