An Islamic Philosophical Critique of Transgenderism with Shaykh Hasan Spiker
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One of the best quotes from Shaykh Hasan Spiker - "The conservative person is the type of person that thinks and acts exactly like the liberal person ... just slower."
This is genius - this quote perfectly distinguishes between the 'Conservative' person and the 'Faithful religious' person. Alhamdulillah Muslims belong to the latter.
Exactly so! Mashallah!
@@alib7489 can someone explain this to me? What does the shaykh mean by that
@@alib7489 there also conservative muslims. they are referred to a salafi
@@IK7.that conservatives end up voting for and supporting the same things liberals do, just later. Like with qawm lut marriage, most conservatives support it now.
Thanks to Hasan Spiker, I can now prove to myself that a posh accent CAN come out of a nice person.
Lol
This resource provides such refreshing relief from the constant deluge of incomplete thoughts that permeate the world. Thank you Paul and esteemed guests.
Many thanks!
This channel is a true gem. Jazakum Allahu Khairan Br. Paul for all your efforts. You inspire me to both post videos and to seek knowledge.
You are so privileged to host these amazing personalities who are unfortunately drowned out by the celebrity mob. Allahumma barik.
Very very important topic and amazing to see Brother Hasan return! I just finished his work on Hierarchy and it was so good I needed to email him to talk to him about it. Highly recommend!
0:00:00 Introduction to the guest.
0:04:06 Introduction to the presentation.
00:07:52 The Transferral of the Attributes of Divinity to the Free, Self-Determining Individual Knowing Subject.
0:30:42 Genealogy of the Ideology.
1:37:43 Islam and Gender as metaphysical principle.
May Almighty Allah Bless and Reward Both of You in this Life and in the Hereafter.
Brother Paul I am willing to contribute to translating your videos to Arabic.. they’re too valuable to be left untranslated
Go ahead, start doing it for free
What are you waiting for?? Go ahead!!! I've been doing so for the German crowd alhamdulillah
There is Arabic translator on the description you can watch it
@@saadmuneer-zb1lw Excellent thank you very much.. I haven’t before realized this feature was available.. I only watch the UA-cam videos without exploring the features
@@IbnThabitVerlag Oh ja, ich habe gehofft, dass ihr das macht
Paul’s enthusiasm on this topic is infectious!
Waiting for a video on Shaykh Al Akbar Ibn Arabi with Shaykh Hassan Spiker insha'Allah.
The most balanced and substantiated position on Ibn Arabi amongst the scholars of ahl al sunna is that he is a waliy whom we love and look up to, but his books are forbidden to be read. I don't think a youtube video to spread his aberrant ideas would be a good idea.
@@abdel-minemmustafa1651 How could one be so revered yet his books are forbidden to read? Is that not a contradiction? Yes, his books are very difficult for the average layperson given the language and multiple layers of meaning and spiritual understanding required. But downright forbidding his works? Not sure that’s what the Shaykh would have wanted.
@@zoolakes17 good question. It's actually not a contradiction. We can love someone and affirm their righteousness while remaining critical of their works or opinions. Ofc the shaykh would not have wanted his works to be forbidden, that's not quite relevant. I also don't think he would have wanted his ideas to be spread through such a medium whereby someone with absolutely no grounding of Islamic knowledge would be exposed to such highly complex esoteric concepts.
Masu'd Khan was once described by Sheikh Nuh Keller as "the indefatigable internet warrior" of our times. I think that title should be given to you Brother Paul (and the team, and the guests). Keep up the amazin work!
The discussion around 25:17 is very interesting and I think its true in another sense as well. All identity is understood by the individual in relation to social activity, so the category of sexual identity itself presupposes some level of socio-sexual activity, i.e., promiscuity. This is seen in the development of the LGBT movement, the Stonewall riots in the US which were a watershed moment in the LGBT movement occurred within the context of gay clubs. If you look throughout the world in places where there are no nightclubs, no outward displays of sexual activity (i.e., the Muslim world), there is barely a sense of gay identity, let alone transgender identity. I think this ties back to the story of Lut AS as well in the open display and exchange of sex.
There is gay people in Muslim countries though. They're just closeted.
Food, water, medicine, personal care products also impact, with the hormone disrupting ingredients. I believe that if in that environment, changes will be seen in time.
I’d happily watch a regular show with these two great minds discussing philosophy
Yep! Would love to have it be a regular, weekly/bi-weekly. Though I recognise that would a great challenge and a big undertaking!
Would pay for this
Subhanallah. Such an important lecture is not to be missed for anything in this world.
Paul, blessed be you. We love you for Allah.
Bringing Shaykh Hasan Spiker means the world's
Alhamdulillah
I'm a huge fan of Hasan Spiker and once again he serves up an outstanding discussion. I really enjoyed this.
I listened to the video while completing my chores and I was listening aptly. It is fascinating to learn just how this all started and the key players responsible for this modern day ideology. Thank you so much to you both for this.
Wonderful session. Jzk to both brothers.
Every time I watch Brother Paul’s videos, I get more books added to my To-Read List. Good for my growing library but bad for my wallet mashaAllah. 😂
Wkkwkwkw😅😅
Really enjoying this podcast Paul! I think your enthusiasm in this topic is contagious.
High class intellectual discussion
paul you're playing with fire😂😂 may allah save your channel
yet another brilliant elucidation brought to us by blogging theology, thank you!
May Allah reward you, brother Paul and sheikh Hasan.
Thank you so much. what a beautiful, refreshing elevated discussion.
I have been watching older videos of BT , and there's just a lot more. Always learn new things from your podcast. Thank you, brother Paul.
Awesome, thank you!
I am a registered Independent, was very liberal, and even a member of the DSA, Democratic Socialist of America think AOC, however, this issue has pushed me into becoming a social conservative.
Mashallah! I have listened to the video from the beginning to the end! Thank you for the beautiful insight into the nature of gender from the islamic point of view and the panoramic picture of how the world came to the mess we have now with gender understanding. This video is a powerful antidote to all those haram philosophies. Dzhazak Allahu Khair, brothers!
That was dense and informative. May Allah bless the both of you for your efforts, and may Allah enable the both of you to serve the ummah at greater scales with greater Impact.
What an excellent lecture - true enlightenment. Thank you for highlighting “the fassad “ that the so-called great European thinkers, Darwin, Marx, Engels etc. have unleashed upon the modern world, just as the Pharoah, Thamud and Aad nations are mentioned in the Quran - “fa aksarroo feehal fassad”
How is Marx responsible ?
شكرا جزيلا لك,
Indeed a very deep inquiry of the broader philosophical context of transgenderism. Blessed are the ones who understand the causes of things!
Brother Paul please interview Nahed mahmoud Metwalli. After 30 years of leaving Islam to Christianity, fleeing to the Netherlands, publishing around 20 books in several languages criticizing Islam, she repented and reverted back to Islam a couple of weeks ago. She’s famous for touring the US and Europe then to spread the anti Islam propaganda
People like that dont need a platform. Spending half your life as an apostate and worse still spreading apostasy. It sounds like she should be focused on seeking forgiveness from the people her lies misguided.
@@fraze83 she is sincere and now trying to spread the facts and all the falsehoods she discovered in Christianity.. she’s trying to make up and reverse any bad influence she had created. Please don’t judge based on the unknown in the heart and hear out what she has to say first. I watched an interview with her in Arabic and don’t doubt her motives.
Did you mistype the name ? I can't find anyone with that name
"She's sincere now" you sure about that? She's still making money off of her books on online book stores, including Amazon 🤡
@@bait5257 google
Very grateful to this platform for
Such great discussion .I would like to request Paul to invite more intellectual to discuss this issue of gender identity it really imp.
Shaykh: “the brilliant Ahmed Paul Keeler.”
Paul: “also from Cambridge.”
Shaykh: “also from Cambridge.”
😂😂😂
You gotta love these English gents.
Well played chaps.
Brilliant brilliant resource that we now have to refer to. Dr El-Tobgui video was great but this is superb in its own right by allowing us to access the internalised philiosphy behind what we are being asked to support - essientially we are being invited to approve a viewpoint which is explicitly against our religion
Yes, co-opted into a world view which threads itself into so many dimensions of one’s thinking, emoting, acting etc which is against one’s own intrinsic nature (fitr) ordained and designed by the Creator. Ultimate colonization of the human mind, body, and spirit. We must consciously with intentionality decolonize our being and de-thread / undo the damage. Allah hu alim and God knows best!
Bonsoir. Je suis fascinée et stupéfaite par toutes ces grandes personnalités d'importance dans de
multiples domaines d'origine Occidentale, Latine Asiatique etc...avec un Arabe parfait digne d'Ibn Khaldoun ,d'El Moutannabi etc...
Tous ces convertis me font penser au verset :« Itha dja'a nasrou Allahi.../... wa raaita annassa yadkhoulouna fiii diini Allahi Afwaadjane..../.... »
Amen.
Fatima, j'suis dég qu'on ait pas ce genre de programme en France. J'essaie d'endoctriner mon entourage à cette chaîne, mais voilà l'anglais et la longueur des interviews les rebutent.
C'est tellement frustrant...
@@AmbiCieux En effet, les ressources islamiques en français sont malheureusement vraiment limitées.
@@AmbiCieux ce genre ''de programme'' est interdit en France, Eeeet!! on est chez ''la Issaba''
@@mockingbird78 "Issaba" ? Je ne comprends pas.
Ce n'est pas interdit, c'est surtout que le logiciel mentale ou culturel de nos prêcheurs n'a pas cette maturité.
Wokism had roots in enlightenment and didn't just sprout out at random, quite an elaborate topic.
Definitely one of the most important youtube videos I've ever seen in my life
What a beautiful evening.
Thank you for always talking about the hard topics. Gender identity has become a matter of confusion among the non-religious and liberals. Hopefully this can help many inshaallah.
@@ji8044this is a strange question with a strange set of presuppositions. Why would religious people not have a say on gender?
@@nanashi7779right lol
Pagan Christian god is also trans, god who became a man according to the Pagan Christianity so you are wrong
@@ji8044
Because everyone is effected by ideologies in their respective community.
Human live in societies not in a individual vacuum.
@@ji8044because this is a discussion about the very nature of the human being.
Besides there are people within religion who struggle with these issues why should we not engage in thoughtful reflection? What harm does it do you? Your argument about none harm flows in both directions
Peace!
When is Shaykh Hamza Yusuf gonna come on this channel?
On the topic of pure being and pure nothingness @48:05.... it represents the causal law. Whereas in Surah Iqhlas, Allah(SWT) says he exists without a beginning and end. Everything that we comprehend in this reality conforms to the causal law, thus a mind cannot fathom a being with no beginning and no end. Through this verse Allah(SWT) explains that he is an entity that exists outside of the clutches of causality, and what can exist outside causality? One of the most probable conclusions we can defer is that he is the one who created it, thus effectively existing outside of its scope of influence.
Thank you
Although this discussion may seem overly philosophical for the lay person, we are at a junction in time in this very globalized post modern world in which EVERY Muslim should listen to, try their best to understand the forces at work and deeply contemplate what has been said here. I cannot overstate the importance of this! In more simple terms: wake up out of this hypnotic slumber of mimicry and consumption!!!
Salam Alaikum,
Can you get your videos translated into Arabic? It would be of great benefit!
Another banger 🔥🔥🔥💯💯
Everything aside,
Shyakh Spiker is blessed with a truly remarkable eloquence.
God bless you both.
MashaAllah🤩is one allowed to translate articles from Zaytuna's website?
Thanks!
Many thanks!
I once tried to read Foucault. The first paragraph was so dysfunctional it made Finnegan's Wake seem perfectly bullet-point by comparison.
It is a testament to the power of the human spirit that some have taken it to be the highest reality. Is it any surprise, when it is from His Spirit?
'When I have shaped him and breathed from My Spirit into him, bow down before him.’ (38:72)
Perhaps this is where Judith Butler would find herself in the Quran
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@@BloggingTheology Brother Paul love your channel and videos, masha'Allah
Btw brother Paul the
Pagan Hindus and Pagan Shias (Alewites etc) and Pagan Christians and others like them believe God is trans who became a man/woman/animals so these kafirs who are against trans are hypocrites themselves lol
@@jackjack-sh7uy Calm down kid
@@snakejuce im calm, are you triggered?
1:29:04 love how the sheikh (may Allah preserve him amin) basically said " "illusion of nature" is CRAZY " but in refined english , that's funny
There needs to be more said on this subject. Needs to be hashed out further.
Surely the question here is, How does Homosexuality sit with Muslims and the religious doctrines!!!???
Answer: ua-cam.com/video/LAm6IboWGQE/v-deo.html
If gender fluidity arises from a "post-Christian" milieu, why does it present itself independently across history in cultures that had, at the time, no contact? The only argument made on behalf of the phenomenon arising out of Christianity's legacy was the brief nod towards sacrifice and new creation as vague, broad themes which could just as easily be applied to virtually any phenomenon. Where in the universe does destruction not lead to new creation? How is that inherently Christian?
Roger Scruton was correct about many of the follies of the New-Left.
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Rabbuna Allah Almighty the Creator of prophets Moses and Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all) says:
(21. And of His signs is that He created for you mates from among yourselves, so that you may find tranquility in them; and He planted love and compassion between you. In this are signs for people who reflect.)
Surah 30 ar-rum ayah 21 from the Holy Quran the final testament revealed by our Creator Rabbuna Allah Almighty to the last of his prophets Muhammad (peace be upon them all)
Thank you for discussing this topic. Thousands of young girls are being mutilated by the medical industry for profit. The money aspect is important. This ideology is being pushed by billionaires.
In Muslim countries, women are mutilated, circumcised. It is a robbery of their sexuality.
Name one institution!!??
@@keithroberts5611 Any clinic that operate surgeries on young peoples's genitilia and breasts to turn them into boys or girls. All doctors pumping chemicals into their bodies...
@@keithroberts5611 Jennifer Pritzker the mental rich man is pushing transgenderism.
After denying sex and gender what's the next stage? I mean what will be their next point of "realization"!?
We’re so back
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ماشاء اللہ
would "isolated" babys-new born developed moral-language-speaking-linguistic ability by itself without mimicking their parents/another human?? I strongly believe all human are mimicking their ancestor speaking-language-moral ability back to early Adam &Eve..(its when Allah teach Adam 'names' of things@matter)..assalamualaiqum
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1:53:30 - Qur'an 33:72 "but man undertook it;- he was indeed unjust and foolish".
i identify as is actually i pretend to be
Allah say And We adorned the skies nearest to the earth with lights (Stars) Q41:12.
NASA say, of the 200 billion trillion stars in the universe most are nowhere near Earth.
God should know this.
That is not what the verse translates to. Your translation is wrong. God mentions nothing of the stars being closest to earth. It’s your error or the error of whomever said that. Not the Quran’s. Please do find a more accurate source.
Wrong translation but even this shows the magnificence and magnitude of Allah’s creation, the lowest of all the heavens (closest to earth) is so huge that the stars we see are only what adorn the bottom of it.
وَلَأُضِلَّنَّهُمْ وَلَأُمَنِّيَنَّهُمْ وَلَآمُرَنَّهُمْ فَلَيُبَتِّكُنَّ آذَانَ الْأَنْعَامِ وَلَآمُرَنَّهُمْ فَلَيُغَيِّرُنَّ خَلْقَ اللَّهِ ۚ وَمَن يَتَّخِذِ الشَّيْطَانَ وَلِيًّا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَقَدْ خَسِرَ خُسْرَانًا مُّبِينًا (119)
From Surah 4 'an-Nisa' (Women) verse 118~119
And he (Satan) said, “I will take to myself my due share of Your servants.”
“And I will mislead them, and I will entice them, and I will prompt them to slit the ears of cattle, and I will prompt them to alter the creation of God.”
Whoever takes Satan as a lord, instead of God, has surely suffered a profound loss.
That's a transatlantic accent 😮
Surrogacy
Sensualising of children
Promiscuity
Nudity
Porn industry
are all prerequisites to the trans issues.
If you listen carefully to his explanation, what he is basically describing, is a trajectory and a stepwise progression along a path of degeneracy. Interesting that that is exactly how Allah describes Az-Zina.
وَلا تَقرَبُوا الزِّنا إِنَّهُ كانَ فاحِشَةً وَساءَ سَبيلًا
And do not even approach fornication for it is an abomination, and a wicked path.
Al-Isrā, v32
This ayah came to mind as I listened! Especially the “do not even approach it”. Because it really is a slippery slope. Subhan Allah.
How can we prove that Islam isn’t a cult and that we don’t use apriori reasoning
Would love to watch the video, but it's too long.
I “listened” to it in bite sized intervals over the course of two days while completing chores, or on my walks and while commuting, etc. I don’t watch the screen and treat it like a podcast. I found it’s much easier to listen to these important conversations that way.
Just do ten minutes a day or something
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Howabt an Islamic critique of pedophilia? Pedophilia is far more prevalent than transgender.. Or are you ashamed of your Phophet?
"The Prophet [ﷺ] married Aisha when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.” - The revered Sahih al-Bukhari, 5134; Book 67, Hadith 70.28 May 2022
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well said @@ponderingspirit
@@ponderingspirit child marriage for political or business alliances are different to consummation. Sex with nine year olds has never been normal as it's physically dangerous.. It often results in death in child birth or life long medicial problems including infertility.. (Did Ashia ever have kids despite being Muhammed's favourite for nine years?) As sex with nine year old is harmful it has never ever been the "norm"..
@@ponderingspirit😂 It dosent matter what any " canon" says.. Sex with nine year olds is dangerous.. It often results in death in childbirth or life long medicial problems including infertility... Sex with nine year olds has never been normal and there is ample historical records.. It could never be normal as it would harm the children and most parents are not that cruel and want to protect their children...You have zero evidence that sex at nine was ever normal and zero evidence that girls in California physically mature faster than girls in Canada... Even, if they did, marriage abd sex at nine is inappropriate. We don't allow nine year olds to choose their own bedtimes, education diet or personal hygiene routines... We certain my don't allow them to vote, drive or enter into legal contracts.. But you think marriage and the tremendous emotions of sex are appropriate at nine? Maybe you regard human sexuality as nothing more than animal instinct.. A warm feeling.. No "big deal"... That's what pedophiles claim isn't it.. "No big deal"..
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The mocking and deriding attitude exhibited by both the host and guest towards Judith Butler and her ideas was quite disappointing and unprofessional. Critiquing and analyzing contemporary transgenderism does not excuse the complete dismissal and erasure of decades of feminist theory and gender studies as a specialized field and social movement. The use of only two figures (De Beauvoir & Butler), even if they are considered foundational, to represent the development of gender and feminist concepts in a huge corpus throughout the years really superficializes the whole thing. As for the complementarity of gender roles, it is not originally a Qur'anic/Islamic notion but rooted in Western modernity & the Industrial Revolution. Q 3:36 is not a normative statement about the inequality of the two genders, as commonly misinterpreted, because this is a quotation by Mary's mother that reflects the patriarchy of the Jewish social context of the time not allowing women to serve in sacred spaces. The immediate following verse (37) is God's response to dispel and correct that very notion. And this is in accordance with other relevant Qur'anic verses that affirm equality and to which the speaker didn't allude (33:35 - 9:71 - 3:195). Again: don't conflate criticizing transgenerism with undermining feminist theories and the pursuit of gender egalitarian ethos, or with re-inscribing patriarchal discrimination. Thank you.
With your attempt to sabotage, by trying to give an impression of erudition and knowledge of the "field", you reveal your prejudice and the fact that you have not even watched the full lecture. How were they suppose to cover every thinker in gender studies in a short lecture, when they were also covering Feuerbach, Marx, Sartre, Foucault, and others? The idea that the complementarity of the gender roles was invented in the Industrial Revolution is complete nonsense, and you would have found out if you had actually watched the lecture that the type of complementarity of the genders that was discussed was a metaphysical one, with a 13th century text cited . Your insinuation about Q 3:36 is disingenuous: neither speaker said anything about gender equality, it was VERY clear that the context was gender distinctness and integrity. "Re-inscribing patriarchal discrimination"! You've obviously studied postmodernism at a contemporary university. There was not a whiff of discrimination, or patriarchy in the lecture, it was about metaphysical complementarity. Try not to follow your postmodern professors so blindly, and try to think outside the box in which you have imprisoned yourself. Thank you.
Gender roles emerged from Western modernity? How more ignorant and self-centered can you be? Gender roles are in Islam all over the Qur'an and Sunnah. Not only that, but they have been part of every civilization. A quick hadith reference that refutes your nonsense:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Surely! Everyone of you is a guardian and is responsible for his charges: The Imam (ruler) of the people is a guardian and is responsible for his subjects; a man is the guardian of his family (household) and is responsible for his subjects; a woman is the guardian of her husband's home and of his children and is responsible for them; and the slave of a man is a guardian of his master's property and is responsible for it. Surely, everyone of you is a guardian and responsible for his charges."
Sahih Bukhari 7138
Howabt an Islamic perspective on pedophilia... I am sure Islam hates child sex even if its dressed as marriage and the child has just started menses, right? “The Prophet [ﷺ] married Aisha when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.” - The revered Sahih al-Bukhari, 5134; Book 67, Hadith 70
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The comment section here is like a fresh garden but watch your step for the occassional sanctimonious fool.
Transgenders
Genders in
Disguise🤖🤡😅
More bigotry😊
How ?
It's not that deep...
what?
You're just that shallow.
No thanks.
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