My Mother came by foot from Damascus To Israel in 1944 , her parents sent her alone , she was only 8 years old. Their original intention was to Join her. it never happened , They made Alia only in the 90's. The Hagana Smuggled groups of Jews Children to British Controlled Palestine . she was raised In a Kibutz By the Galilee sea (Degania) without any immediate family next to her. She completed her education, served in the Army, got married, raised a family and had a long Career as a chief Nurse in one of Israel's Biggest Hospitals. I am always in owe when reflecting on her extraordinary life story. I am so proud of her!
I’ve been to several kibbutzims in the south and I’ve hears a couple of similar stories - children going to Israel alone and being raised there. It’s both awe inspiring and heartbreaking to hear. 🙏
We as Christian around the world know how the Jewish people became prisoners and were in Babylon the last minor Prophets like Amos,Hosea, Obadiah, Habakkuk . That explains when the Jewish people were released what they had to grow through and people started to disobey God and started more to Baal worshipers because of Babylon were worshiping Baal maybe they don't want the truth to be told to the world so by creating this Anti Semitic against Israel and the try to white wash their own History.They can lie but can they hide from the Almighty God.
I'm an Israeli Jew, my grandparents were born in Yemen, and since October 7th it's very important for me to tell their story. My grandfather was born in Yemen, his father died when my grandfather was very young (~5 years old), and there was an Islamic law in Yemen that every Jewish boy under 12 yo without a father must be converted to Islam by force and taken away from his family. He told me that one day his mother took her entire family from their home (him and older sister and brother) and they all escaped their home and lived in a literal cave for few days to hide from the Yemeni authority. After that they lived as homeless for few years until Israel saved them. This is only one story of one of my grandparents.
The Majority of Yemeni Jews are pure Arabs from Qahtany tribes like Al Azd , Kholan and Himyar ..... etc The Y-DNA results confirmed that the Yemenite Jews are Arabs carry the Haplogroup J1 like Arabs. I encourage you to do the Y-DNA test in order to know your real origin \ root . God bless you .
A fellow Yemeni here. So sad to hear that, the Terror and injustice that was inflicted on Jews in Yemen and the Whole of Middle East under the name of Islam is dishearting. I eush we could live diversely and peacefull in our own lands without the Religions that divide us
As an Ashkenazi Jew, I am shocked at our lack of knowledge of the Mizrahi history. This needs to be shared so much more. I very much grew up with this idea that Jews were always treated as equals by Arab countries and it was only the West that discriminated. We really need to learn to present the WHOLE of Jewish history, not just the European version.
I am also a half-Mizrahi, half-Ashkenazi Israeli Jew. My great grandparents were persecuted out of Iran, Germany, Poland, and Slovakia. They all came here met, fell in love and created beautiful diverse families (Americans were unable to believe that me and my sister actually share both parents, and for some reason they Americans are considered the diverse nation). I also survived Oct. 7, hiding a few hundreds of feet from the massacre. Even despite the terror that looms over my life since I was born, I would rather be a free, proud Jew in my ancestral land, and not a dhimi or a closeted western jew.
I also want to address the discrimination of Mizrahi Jews in Israel that she mentioned. I am not saying it didn't happen, but my family's experience has been very different. My Mizrahi family got to Israel with very little, my Ashkenazi family got here with quite a lot. By the time I was born, my Ashkenazi family has chosen a very modest lifestyle in a small kibbutz, and my Mizrahi family is actually very successful. My very brown grandfather recounted being discriminated for being a religious man, but never for his skin color or family origin. He reached a very prominent public role, and his pension is still higher than the salary of my hi-tech programmer light-skinned brother-in-law. I myself am brown. Never experienced racism. Again - it exists, but I think to a far lesser degree than in the US for example
On the topic of history repeating itself on October 7th: If you read Enat Wilf’s book The War of Return, she describes the violence inflicted upon the Jews in Safat, Hebron and Jerusalem. The Arabs brutally mutilated the bodies of Jews. A photographer took pictures of the mutilated bodies and sold small prints that Arabs would proudly carry around in their wallets, like trophies. Reading this chilled me to the bone because it is just like all the go-pro footage that Hamas and their people took of what they did on October 7th.
10-7- 23 is a REPLICA of Mohammad unwarranted massacre of the KHAIBAR Jews, near Medina. Muslims like to remind of this cowardly event during their manifestations..
I am from Europe, specifically the Balkans (ethnic Hungarian living in Serbia). The Ottoman Empire ruled here for hundreds of years, they also collected taxes and little boys were taken away from their families to be raised as muslim soldiers. When they grew up they came back to their homeland to fight against their own people and occupy more and more land.. So when I hear things like 'all whites are colonizers' from the american media, I am so irritated. For us it happened the other way around, but nobody seems to care about it because it's "islamophobic" to talk about that.. I don't hold anything against the turkish people who live today because they were not the ones doing it, but I think this can still serve as a cautionary tale to how destructive Islam can be.
You are both so beautiful and loved. Thank you Yasmine, I love to hear from your guests it helps me put into perspective the history and lived experiences of my Jewish sisters so I can be an ally. One love from your African sister.
I’m half yemenite and half Irish. I relate to everything she said about not looking like my moms family and not knowing my fathers family and constantly being asked what I am and if I was adopted. It’s crazy how similar our stories are.
What I love in israel is the mixed. All the jews have common genes from the father side and mixed with non-jews most from the mother's side. That way we close genetic and we also different genetic that what I like.
Ummmm...I am trying to understand why people don't understand that the Jews need a land of their own...they yteat them like shte and persecute them...we dont want you here...but we don't want you there...look underneath...that's Genocide. Anti zionism = anti semitism
The big question that needs to be asked is why Palestinian supporters do not talk about the situation of Jews over the years in Arab countries and why they focus only on Jews who came from Europe.
It’s not that complex. Because much history is Eurocentric. Also Partly because after the Spanish expelled the Jews and Muslims a mythos was set up to contrast western antisemitism against the relative tolerance under Islamic rule in Spain. The aim was to criticise the west but it also minimised the abuse under Islamic rule. This was aided by the perception of treatment during the crusades which ignored the fact that it would make more sense to compare the treatment of Jews under Byzantium and under the Islamic states than the crusaders who were religious fanatics and would be better compared to the pogroms by Islamic fanatics.
@@apriljoy1094 My current hypothesis is that Westerners use Mus because they want to feel enlightened themselves and not openly admit that they have held the same Hate and conspiracies about Jws.
@@user-pg5re1cg7d No. The current conflict was never about land, Israel is TINY, it is Islamic supremacism and entirely originates from Islamic bigotry and hatred of the Jews especially and, of course, everyone else. Israel outshines its neighbours in every possible way. That makes the Islamo-nazis extremely envious which adds to their depraved hatred.
As an Ashkenazi, I realise how little of the history of the jews I knew and even bought into the whole colonialsation thing as a student. It's only fairly recently that the whole picture of all of us is coming out.
Oy vey. Read & listen to lectures. Visit Israel! If you don’t know our history their bs sounds plausible since it is accepted so widely. The truth is most are ignorant of history, especially Jewish history.
I'm Israeli and half Sephardic as well (Libyan on my mother's side), my mom's entire family fled/driven out of Tripoli after the anti Jewish riots there, leaving everything they had behind. They fled by foot with nothing but the clothes on their backs, leaving behind all their belongings, their homes and businesses. My grandmother who was about 12 at the time had to go out and work odd jobs at the market place like pitting dates or chopping onions to help provide for her family (she had 5 younger sisters), one of her sisters (a one year old) even died of malnutrition because there wasn't enough food! This is what people out there do not know, and I dare say, are not interested in knowing.
One of my biggest issues is that way in which people flippantly refer to the "3 Great Abrahamic Religions", when in truth, there was the Jewish People and two religo-imperialist forces that colonized Jewish text...
When the "Arabization" facet is factored in, it's nature takes an overall genocidal turn. Ottomans were the latest iteration that proved that racism becomes unavoidable,,, because as a colonial force, it's inherently an imperial force, which always rely on divide&conquer.
I am culturally half-Muslim and am grateful to Yasmine for telling her story. I am very sorry for all the pain you and your people have been through. Islam is antisemitic, and it is up to Muslims and ex-Muslims to speak out regarding this hatred that Muslims are being indoctrinated with.
The antisemitism in the Islamic world is not really rooted in Islam though. Islam contains antisemitic text, but the antisemitism in the Muslim world has more to do with conspiracy theories and stuff like that and a lot of the antisemitism comes from Europe, however antisemitism is widely spread under Muslims.
Mohammed confiscated the oasisof 2 Jewish tribes that had been living in Arabia for 400 years before Mohammed’s birth. A third Jewish tribe was totally destroyed - all its men were beheaded and women and children were sold into slavery and Mohammed took one of its Jewish women for one of his wives. These events are recorded by the early Muslim historians who were writing about the life of Mohammed .
Mohammed confiscated the oases of 2 Jewish tribes that had been living in Arabia for 400 years before Mohammed’s birth. A third Jewish tribe was totally destroyed - all its men were beheaded and women and children were sold into slavery and Mohammed took one of its Jewish women for one of his wives. These events are recorded by the early Muslim historians such as ibn Ishaq who were writing about the life of Mohammed . The Jews are land poor because they were not imperialists or colonizers on the other hand the Muslims , the largest imperialists and colonizers in history occupy 600 times more land then Jews . Muslims are super land rich. European antisemitism found a welcome home amongst Muslims who already thought that Jews as non Muslims are second rate
@@samuelgoldring9691 you are conflating a couple of things, you are conflating arabs with Muslims. Also Arabs are not an ethnic group but rather a term for a group of people that speak Arabic and the Arabic dialects are quite diverse so people that speak different dialects can have a hard time talking to each other. This whole notion of there being plenty of land. Actually usable land is quite scarce. You have Morocco Algeria and tunesia that have green strips of land, Egypt has the nile as the only water resource. You have the Levant region which is a green strip along the east Mediterranean, you have the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq, and the Mountains in Yemen these are the only pieces of productive land. Apart from that the Palestinians are native to the land even if you do DNA testing and everything. It is actually quite funny that most Jews are genetically related to the Palestinians but tend to have a higher admixture of other components because of how the Jews had to flee so they spread out. You can't just say well there is other land you can go to. People have lived there for thousands of years I am not saying Jews should leave either.
My dad was born in Israel in 1949 to Holocaust survivors from Poland. He told me he felt embarrassed and inferior because his parents spoke broken Hebrew with Yiddish accents so I think there was plenty of discomfort and trying to find your place in the early years of the nation.
I grew up in a multicultural Midwest city in the US. I did get some anti Jewish slurs from the kids in the neighborhood, but the boys picked on anybody and everybody for anything. The various Caucasian kids called names of the Mexican kid, but he was a good pitcher and shortstop and indestructible when it came to fighting, so he earned respect. I was more nerdy and bookish and was afraid of violence so i didn't win any popularity contests. I had extremely minimal Jewish religious knowledge, so I couldn't really relate to the one traditional Jewish family nearby. Without anyone telling me, I thought I would be mocked if I "stood out" by leaving public school to get on another bus to go to Hebrew school, so i didn't do that. My parents grew up in Jewish neighborhoods in the same city, so there was a different kind of sense of solidarity, even though they mixed freely with everyone. I'm LEARNING my Jewish heritage in my 60s and the facts that Haviv emphasizes, that far from "colonizers", Jews who created Israel (except for some who never left the region) WERE REFUGEES who didn't have anywhere else to go.
Those aren’t contradictory. The Europeans who colonised America were often also refugees from religious persecution. That doesn’t excuse what they did to the native Americans or the slave states they founded
My father grew up in New Jersey in the 1920s and 30s. He tells the same stories of American kids (Christians) throwing rocks at him on his way to Hebrew school and synagogue. Happened HERE too.
I’m an Israeli Jew and watching this conversation made me understand you guys and girls in the US give color much more meaning than the rest of us do. We should all be color blind
I was under the impression that lighter colored Jews are prejudiced against darker skinned Jews. Am I wrong? As far as the USA goes, dark skinned people were slaves. Arabic for dark skinned person is “slave”. Jews were slaves to Muslims in Islam. It’s just a way to put people in boxes so you don’t have to listen to their personal stories. Philippine people use an umbrella to keep their skin lighter, because dark skin means menial worker. There’s many pieces to this puzzle. The truth is rarely pure, and never simple.
The past 10 years the leftist mainstream culture went full intersectionality politics and it’s working. American Jews however are the one group that gets hatred from both the fair left and fair right. It’s a lose lose situation.
Ethnic and racial differences - tribalism are grounds for discrimination in every part of the world. It's such a beautiful thing when a society such as Israel is blind to these external differences
I got my Masters in Spanish lit in the 1990's and realize now that I was totally dogmatized, hearing in every class how great the "convivencia" between Muslims, Christians snd Jews was, how terrible the Christians were, how the Renaissance was thanks to the Arabic scholars. I never learned of "dhimmi" or the humiliations in class. It was already the fashion way back then to only see the ugliness of our past and only the beauty during Muslim rule. Yes, they translated- great!- but this was because the original civilizations were taken over! That part was never discussed. Years later, I read Dario Fernsndez-Morera's The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain and I realized how much had been left out of my education. It is right to be honest with ourselves about our past - including the dark sides of all cultures involved, if we are to grow beyond them. I am so angry that I did not know enough to realize what my teachers were doing to my head back then.
The Islamic conquest was spread by the sword, invasion, oppression, and in modern times, immigration as a first step. There is also so much ignorance about the treatment of Js and Cs under Islamic rule - "dhimmitude". Sure they were spared death, but it was NO way to live - oppression and subjugation are part of Islamic history. Not all Arbs are M, but no one seems to know about the Arb slave trade(s), either.
I love this conversation thank you. I have a daughter named Jasmine. In part we chose the name because the Jasmine flower is seemingly small and unassuming yet has a strong and attention grabbing scent- the voice of the flower demanding to be recognized. These two Yasmine’s definitely embody that. Thank you.
From Australia, I remember when I found out what people meant when they called someone a Jew, and I can remember thinking 'hows that an insult' still today I think of it as a compliment.
My late wife grew up in Morocco, her grandparents had to pay jizya ( some spell it “dzizya), but when the French colonized Morocco in 1912, it was outlawed. Morocco was somewhat more mild after that. Jewish-Muslim relations in Morocco over the centuries were somewhat more positive than in the the rest of the Arabic-speaking world, it depended largely on who the sultans were at the time. Like in many countries, the Jewish population tried to increase their chances of survival by making themselves helpful to the rulers. “Study and study more my son, the survival of your family may well depend on it.”
By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV) - “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.” It surely can't get any simpler than that.
Yasmin should have Francisco Gil-White on her channel. He is an amazing historian who specializes in Middle East conflict among other things and he has a fantastic Substack channel called Management of Reality. He’s also done some great interviews on UA-cam and Spotify. He was a professor at UPENN and was fired for speaking out about Hajj Amin al-Husayni and his influence on WW2. I think Jasmine would really appreciate his take on all of it.
my grand father came to israel after surviving the holocaust as a german jewish 6 year old. his wife, my grandmother, came to israel from Iran, where people didnt want to touch jews, at the age of 4 with her family. on my mom's side my great grandparents fled the russian empire in the late 1800's due to the danger of pogroms. every jew in israel has a similar story.
Agreed..the Quran does has those verses because he was angry that Jewish neighbors would not convert but the eating and head covering came from Jews and desert tribes.
every. single. word. BRAVO ladies for this insightful discussion!!! Thank you to both Yamine's. You are both so precious!!!
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Ok, Im orthodox jewish and pro-israel, and agree with alot of what this lady is saying, but im not digging her whole woke vibe. The reason why Americans think of Jews as primarily ashkenazi and white has nothing to do with it being more "palatable" or a savior narrative like she says. It's simply because the vast majority of jews who immigrated to the US in the 19th and 20th century were ashkenazi, and therefore ashkenazim formed the american jewish culture. Sometimes things are just the way they are because thats the way they are and there's nothing deep or sinister about it.
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Also, i dont like the "Jews are not white" claim. The typical Ashkenazi Jew may be 100% Jewish, but if you take off the yamuka, it's a white guy. Same with Mizrahi Jews. They may not be muslim, but if you have arabic physical features and speak arabic, it's not crazy that u wud be considered arab. Gad Saad, a lebanese jew, proudly considers himself both Jewish and Arab (and Canadian).
“Whiteness” is a very complicated term, not just a skin color, and stems from US colorism that shouldn’t be used to describe issues outside of the US context. Also, in Europe, Jews were never considered European by non-Jews. Even if you had light skin, you might have Middle Eastern features like heavy eyebrows or large nose. But even if not, Jews were never considered to be equal to non-Jews. Not as people who belonged. So, as the guest says, it doesn’t matter how blond or blue-eyed a Jew is, they aren’t and weren’t “white.” It’s not just about appearance. As someone who has often been mistaken for a Euro-American non-Jew, I’ve experienced what often happens if/when I “come out” as a Jew. When little Irish-American Catholic kids in my neighborhood found out my family was Jewish, they threw rocks and yelled disgusting insults at me at every opportunity. Didn’t care how I looked. So, no, I don’t accept the label “white,” because the haters don’t give a f*ck what we look like. PS, many white-appearing Jews from Europe are descendants of Jewish women who were raped by non-Jews, which happened to thousands of us over the centuries. Consider that when you label Ashkenazim “white.”
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@@Historian212 Yes I get this concept of "whiteness" as being more than a skin color, I hear about it incessantly- and I very strongly object to it. I think it's just new-age wokeness at its most absurd level. Let's be real for just a moment: If I robbed a bank, and witnesses had to give a description to the police, I'd be described as a white male, end of story. The fact that I keep kosher, and my grandmother survived Aushwitz, and I get harrassed by Arabs when they see my kippah, and that I have DNA that traces me back to the middle-east etc... is not relevant. White means white skin and basic white racial features. It doesnt mean European, because there is already a word that exists that refers to European heritage- namely, the word "European".
Yes the who thing is without fact . DNA studies reveal they are 100% who they say they are. The propaganda that they are white is a convenient and not from the land of Israel is a complete lie.
Yes but almost 60% of Jews in israel are "Arab" Jews, and the western world especially Americans keep referring to the Jews in Israel as white Europeans.
I’m a middle eastern immigrant woman to the USA and I have never never never experienced any sort of racism or misogyny! And I have been here over 40 years!
Caveat that there are Mizrahi Jews also in former Soviet states like Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan and even Russia. Iranian-descended Jews like Juhuro and Bukharian Jews.
Thank you for this. My parents had to leave everything behind in Baghdad. They went through the Farhoud (the big pogrom on the holiday of Shavuot), the finally left to Israel in 1950. I’m the first ‘Sabrah’ of my family to be born in Israel.
I don't know if it can be of worthiness, but here is a story that my Dad told me from his Dad ("Jiddo" as we say in Arabic): My Jiddo was a merchant in his small town in SE Syria (ca 1950s-1960s) and would often travel to find new business partners or someone they can rely on to send items or merchandise to his shop. One day, he travelled with him to the town of Hassake (NE Syria) and met with a good merchant friend. This merchant was Jewish and Jiddo told to my dad something like: "Son, this merchant is Jew but I will trust him anytime over any Arab merchant. He is fair, and trustful to his word". Time passed and the merchant was gone overnight without warning. One thing that seems to happen after 1948 is the increased tightening grip of the Syrian Government over Syrian Jews. One thing that was imposed on them was curfew: you should be home by sunset and you should have your lights and radio on. This is how Jews escaped from Syria: they left in the middle of the night, incognito, while letting their lights and radio on. Taking at best two suitcases per person as the sole belongings, without notice. In Aleppo, the historical Jewish quarter, "Al Jamaliyah", was almost empty by the 80s, with Assad father (Hafez) really being ironclad to avoid any of the community to further expect. The hatred of the Jew was even further increased after the second humiliation of 1967 because of the Golan Heights, and became a convenient prop for the regime to pose as "The Resistance to Zionists". Syria also became a hotbed of several Nazes officers that found refuge there, and served as consultants in Assad prisons torture rooms. It is a very very sad story, amongst many, to hear and how dramatic we have lost a fabric of our Syrian society, as we can see and hear in the Syrian Jewish community in their weekly Maqam. If only the Arabs used trade with Israelis, exchanging goods versus bullets, the Levantine and the Middle-East would have been very different.
thanks for this share. I am Ashkenazi Jew who came to Isaiah 52 last 3 verses and chapter 53, my best friend and forgiver of my sins. I love Israel and all people, but I do not like the bad things that they do. pray for the best for everyone, amen.
With great respect, I must nuance the statement that there’s a difference between Islamic anti-Jewishness and the Nazi anti-Jewishness, because the former is about religion and the latter is a political-philosophical movement. Actually, both are racist. But more to the point: the Nazis could never have gained support for its mass slaughter of Jews without the underpinning of anti-Judaism woven into Christian European culture since the 4th century Roman emperor Constantine. It was the predominance of anti-Judaism and othering of Jews based on Christian doctrines that set the table, as it were, for Nazism. Examples are plentiful, but Google Martin Luther’s screeds against Jews, written toward the end of his life, after he wasn’t able to convert Jews to Christianity by being nice to them. Luther called for the Talmud and all Jewish books to be burned, and synagogues, too, and for Jews to be driven from Germanic lands, if they still refused to convert. (Luther was the famous Catholic priest who sparked the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.) Anti-Jewish racism and anti-Judaism were part of Christian Europe since before England banished its Jews in 1290. Christian crusaders slaughtered Jews across Europe, alongside their slaughter of Muslims. This history needs to be acknowledged as the foundation of the complicity of many people around the world who turned a blind eye to Jewish suffering during the Shoah.
@Historian212 Very true. The Inquisition followed Jews to S. America. It’s why the first Jews to set foot in New Amsterdam arrived there specifically - a Dutch Colony, not Spanish- they were Sephardic of course. I’m not clear on your distinction between Islamic antisemitism & Nazi antisemitism. I mean does it matter?? Different strains of the same thing. It sounds like you would know the Rabbi Sach’s take on the evolution of antisemitism. Clearly new versions will be created- not religious, race, philosophical, scientific, or human rights based. Right now most of the previous iterations are commingling making it a powerful pill. Islamists picked up Nazi ideology and mixed it with Islam. Hamas is a great example.
I didn't listen it all yet, I stopped at the Farhud as an Israeli iraqi jew decent it is important for me to tell about the Farhud riots: They happened in the Summer of 1941specifically on Shavuot, a jewish holiday when it was known that during Shavuot the jews are out side dressed white and can be spotted from the crowd, they used to go to a grave of Ezekial the prophet (ziara)... The resemblance to October 7th is big as she said. The british weren't around, it took them 3 days to come and rescue the jews, according to a testemony I herd (I herd many including my grandparents...) there was a truck full of naked dead bodies of jewish women, who were probably rapped going aroynd Bagdad presenting and parading the bodies (we know this from a jew girl who was wearing a black abaya all the time, people thought she is muslim so she went on the streets whille her family was hiding until it was safe to go out...), my grand father escaped on roof tops and ran all the way from Bagdad to Basra, my Grandmother survived because they had a lot of gold jewleries they gave to neigbors who came to kill them, her cusin was shot trying to escape. The jews of Iraq had to leave all of their property behind some managed to hide some money in the razors, less than 10 rich people didn't leave Iraq because it was so bad. My kurdish grandmother says there were many other riots, they were told soon Hitler will come here and kull all of you jews... her brother sat 3.5 years in Iraqi jail just for being a jew until the jewish agency managed to bring him to Israel. It is very importamt for me to tell these stories, so that people will know why it is so important for me that we have Israel, wishing we will have a better future alongside Palestinians. Thank you for this interview.
@Bettybaminjerusalem Yes, Yes, and emphatically Yes to everything you shared. The looting on Oct. 7 also was triggering for its echoes with past pogroms/massacres including the Farhood.
Loved the Jewish woman Elisheva Ari who came in at 01:38:30. She was very honest and unapologetic. It would be such a shame to lose the American diaspora, even if I understand if many want to do Aliyah instead.
Such an amazing episode! Yasmin you are inspiring, (both 😊) As an israeli, there was one thing i just have to correct you, and its only because i live here and know it first hand, : you said about the courage to rise against the oppressor, and gave examples such as the Iranian, and the protests in israel. And i just have to tell you: there is absolutely no comparison, to take part in a protest here takes some courage of course, but not alot, it's not like the protests were violently shot down, its not dangerous! You will not be in jail unless you'll hit a cop, or burn stuff, and i know! I've there! Even before the war, yes there were violent clashes, but not to the point that anyone would be too scared to protest again, this is truely a case of our media which reported it in an over exaggerated way, left wing media want to show how "insane" the cops and government is so they tell horror stories and paint a picture of doom, while right wing media want to show how "insane" the protestors are, and both tell stories which are disgusting in my eyes. The reality as I've seen it everyday, because i live where it all happened and still happens. (My apartment is literally above the main place of protests..) The truth is much more complicated and not AT ALL like some brave people rising against an evil government. I will try to sum it up in the shortest way i can, but im not sure i can explain it .. ill try: 1. Ive been a leftist all my life, grew up religious, not religious today at all, but i believe in people, not labels, and like many others, i found out my zionism only since october, and allso found myself politicaly homeless, ive allways didnt like bibi, and many others in the government, And i rooted for the protestors actually, but i found myself not able to participate, why? Because i know how cultish mindset look and feel, i spent alot of my years pushing against any form of dogma, and ive seen it in places that surprised me, for example, i left the religion, and met people who helped me, an organization, and i appreciate their help to this day, but i disassociated from them when i saw they were to much nerrow minded and wanted to help people who left this "abusive" religious situation, and when i said that actually i never experienced abuse, i just dont believe in god, never have, and yes you can definitely promote changes, and help abuse victims etc, but i think its people who are abusive, not the religion, im very connected to my family, to my old friends, and they actually respect me alot! And its hassidic community, the "worst" in a way, (gur) . But i actually find good people, alot of them, i actually could have never seen it even in my imagination, they keep surprising me for the good, my married friend told me to stop wearing long skirts when i come to her home, which i did out of respect and i didnt want to look weird to her children.. but after a while she told me she trusts me, knows im appropriate, and her kids know there are different opinions in the world, so she wanted me to come as i am, meaning wear jeans and not put on a "costume" for her. My father rip was a gere chussid, and he absolutely loved me and would do anything to make me feel welcomed, he couldn't stand to see me shamed or disrespect . And i respect them all as well, but on the other hand im not going to be where i dont feel my heart is. And i had to work hard to reach this amazing place of balance, its the real peace. Its me. Sorry for this but i wanted to let you know my background so you'll believe me when i say: I found myself confused and a bit taken beck when i realized there's a fraction in israeli society which has developed some weird obsession with the government, they demonized bibi to the point that im frankly scared, they actually believe that he is the source of all evils, and if only he would step down everything will be great, its delusional and its dangerous, i cannot explain it, because im not entirely sure yet of what is the explanation, but my current conclusion is that there is left wing people here, who have found themselves lost, all they ever believed was shattered in one day. They used to think we are the problem, if only we would give land, if only we would be more liberal and progressive, and they were very loud and combative in a way, which is actually the natire of leftism in a way, they are the people who stand against the popular opinions and say things that make people lose their shit, proteganists, allways have been. But they have to face the grim reality of : they simply hate us, its not our fault, we are the victims here, again, we are the jews who can only hope for mercy, they spent the last century thinking that were in a different place, the Holocaust happend because the jews were too much "jewy" they have a word for it, "galooti" which of course means the Hassidic jew from the small shtetl in poland and he does not fight back, and walks like sheep to slaughter (not my words, im sure you've heard it before) so they cannot face reality, and they cannot do acts of protest like before, i e stand with gazans againt "apertheid " and "occupation " Thats undeniably was false nerratives, and its because we dont teach enough history here to kids , not in a way which confronts the nain issues, its possible to grow up here and believe lies about previous generations, we are so full of self checking as people that we dont actually remember to explain to our kids why we are correct , not in a fact based way, only in some national emotion which is supposed to be obvious, but its not, i used to believe it, i assumed we were cruel and kicked out arabs and possibly slaughtered, i never checked, because it never really bothered me that much, i assumed im a leftist, because they tend to be non religious, progressive, compassionate, want peace, you know... But the right is allways talked as extremists, as not sophisticated, traditional, they are portraid as animalistic in a way, and thats not the case only in israel, i allways believed there are people on the right which only want war and want revenge and hate arabs, I found out all of those thing are not true, not the right is as portrayed, and not the left. Im still politically homeless, and i think its impossible to choose one way or the other, it's not ok that we have to pick one dogma and go with it whatever happens, how come no one sees it doesn't make any sense? Ok so i digress.. 😅 Dont buy into the narrative, i dont know what is the solution, but i can tell you the facts: 1. Bibi has many flaws, but he is not an evil demon, he is an old man , politician, probably narcissist like most leaders of states are, and there are allso good things to his credit, like the abraham accords, like some thing in the economy which are actually much better, butim not an expert, im just not seeing a dictator, just a man which is past his best days, and needs to be out of the government asap because at this point no one wants him. No one. He seems lost and he needs to go home. I believe most israelis agree with that. But i think the problem is not over when he is not in power, this is NOT hitler! We need to work on our government, bring new people, new ideas, he is huge part of the problem, but people seem to forget there were terror attacks long long before he finished university, they blame him for october 7th, and im old enough to remember when hammas was not a problem, we never said hammas, we said fatah, yasser Arafat, i grew up during the second intifada, busses blew up left right and center, and what about the war of 72? People forget bibi is not our problem. Im amazed by the delusion of the protests. They mean well, but im not sure what causes them to be so cultish
34:58 No it is not "stolen land"🙄 stolen from who? One tribe who had just raided, massacared & taken slaves from another tribe? Tribes that didnt have any form of governments over the land etc etc. Hell ppl in England could say that too. Where are the native Brits before the Vikings, Saxons, Normans etc came & took over etc. Stop it with that bs dei crt "stolen land" nonsense. Its asinine same as the term gentrification🙄
Although many Ashkenazim have internalized what might sociologically be called "whiteness", Ashkenazim are undoubtedly a mixed-race group like the Métis of Canada, with half or more of their ancestry coming from the Levant (Israel & "Bilad as-Sham"), West Asia (Iraq, Iran, the Caucasus), and Eastern Mediterranean (Cyprus, Greece, Sicily) combined (an admixture profile shared with Syrian and Romaniote Jews) and on average only one-eighth or less coming from Northern and Eastern Europe combined (basically what sets Ashkenazim apart from Sephardim is this small amount of northern admixture), the rest coming mostly from the Western Mediterranean (Italy, southern France, Spain, Portugal--an admixture profile shared with Sephardic and Italki Jews) with small amounts of North African and Turkic/Sinitic admixture thrown in. Just as the European admixture in the Métis (and the Cree and Tlingit and Cherokee, among others) does not diminish or dilute their indigenous status, the same should be acknowledged for Ashkenazim.
I keep going to like this video again, but I already liked it. I had a young progressive rabbi try to diminish the persecution of Mizrahim/Sephardim when living under Muslim rule. This conversation was in October - and I was just shocked.
According to the history that I know, the First Exile was after the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem in 586 BC -- with most of those exiled to Babylon. A thriving Jewish community remained in that region for nearly 2600 years, until it was forced out.
Also: Like others, Judeans/Jews migrated to neighbouring territories through most of history. Following the Hellenistic conquest around 330 BC some Jews migrated throughout the Hellenistic world, from Iran, through the rest of the Mediterranean basin, as far as the Iberian peninsula. During the Roman Imperial period it is known there were Jews residing through much of the empire. The second major forced exile happened after the Great Jewish Revolt in 73 AD. Another major exile occurred after the Bar Kochva Revolt in 135 AD. Most of those exiles were taken by force (as slaves) and spread through the empire. Incidentally, after that second revolt the province of Judea was incorporated to it's northern neighbour: Syria-Palestina. The Romans renamed the region on purpose, to obscure Jewish links to it. Similarly they renamed Jerusalem to Ilya-Capitolina. Throughout this history, Jewish communities remained in the holy land/Judea/Palestina.
About the rallies in Israel, they contain about few dozen thousand. In 2 years there were 0 charges against them. It is complicated but it is not as dangerous and wide spread as Yasmine says.
Thanks to both the Yasmins! This was very informative and certainly a clear and precise account of the Islamic radicals and Jews under Moslem rule. However, I would have assumed that civilization had moved beyond the dark age of radicalism and settled into a more lenient mode of life. The sad part here is that the Jewish people ( with the exception of the extreme religious minority) live by these standards. The war cries towards Jews are by Muslims snd their supporters are coming from the very people who have oppressed and killed in the name of Allah. Why can't people see this!?
It's funny, I'm the only blonde in my jewish family and no one thought I was related to my mom who was half ashkenazi and half sephardic. No one believed I was Jewish either. So it goes both way haha. People would assume my family was rich and once had slaves... and I said no, my holocaust (which included sephardic and ashkenazi family) were recently slaves. Really it boils down to people say dumb stuff. It took me awhile to realize that and not let it bother me..
Such an incredibly important discussion perfectly time for all the lack of knowledge in these very dark times....I know a white Irish poor man who became diabetic type II and was told that bc he had no health ins. they would not be able to give him a glucometer....He had no idea how critical it was for dealing w diabetes AND had assumed that that device must cost thousands of $$$....He found himself in an ER outside of his area and the doctors who took care of him were shocked that he was never given a glucometer and that the cost of the machine was NOT thousands of dollars....just awful and so so wrong...Ignorance hurts us all. Loved this conversation and the info provided.
To respond to what the last speaker said and in regards to not being scared of what people say or think as they are toothless tigers or keyboard warriors: I posted a while back on IG a meme of “me too unless you are a Jew” and I immediately got messaged by a woman who was a childbirth educator, someone I would have normally admired, who told me I needed to “rethink” my post and went on a tirade about how Israel is running the world. I immediately blocked that person and I did not remove my post, I instead posted that I will not be intimidated for speaking the truth.
I did the same with the Bible teaching and repeating this harm like on native Americans. She told me to walk away and not comment on her space. I said no!
She's lovely and I learned a lot about the history and experiences of Mizrahi Jews. However, when she started going off with the intersectional bs and critical race theory crap, I just switched off. Part of the problem with the Palestinians is they're professional victims or 'Crybullies'. We are never going to get out of this mess until we stop glorifying victimhood.
Bukhari food is the best! I have friends of that background and they say things were decent in Uzbekistan. Yes they lived as dhimmis but the violence was rare. Apparently the president is asking Jews to come back lol
Regardless of any opinion/bias on this, don't downplay any war and any atrocities, the conversation felt slightly dehumanizing and religious when it came to the current conflict... Expecting sympathy and understanding is mutual and she did not emphasize on that, which is probably why this conflict exist in the first place. Identities are not borders, and politics don't mix with beliefs. Drop the us vs them mentality, how do you think that resolves anything other than resentment? I enjoyed the highlights and experiences shared, not the indirect passive aggressive tone that even muslims have, be careful not to become the thing you hate.
Thanks ! Jiziah and Dhimmi. Applied in the past.. this account here seems to be a reminiscence on feelings locked in a past some of these recent memories coincided in history with the creation of Israel. But it is well known too that before that Christians and Jews prospered in Arab countries Secular Syria most recently with all its factions and ethnicities in recent history fought recently against Isis and al Qaeda to repel fundamental Islam. We all know that moderate Muslims have to respect Judaism as they believe that Jews and Christians are people of the book.
1:05:30 that’s about Mizrachi Jews is incorrect. It is true that like in many other immigrants the Mizrachi Jews had to fight for their place in society but in Israel today there is no difference between Mizrachi and Ashkebazi. And it not true that there are more Arab Israeli than Mizrachi Jews in the parliament or in universities. Yes, some political factions in Israel (like SHAS) use their past hardship to create representation but as fact of life in Israel there is no discrimination between Ashkenazi and Mizrachi
No need to go that far a nation to see differences in skin colour. My sibling have brown skin n my skin is yellow. We are one Chinese family from same parents same mother and same father . Also my other sibling looks like Caucasian. This differences in skin colour is exist , even in one family.
How long yasmine Esther is out of ISRAEL? Because there are NO more Israeli arabs more than mizrahi jews in the parliament or what she said... I don't think it was ever true. I live in Israel.
My Mother came by foot from Damascus To Israel in 1944 , her parents sent her alone , she was only 8 years old.
Their original intention was to Join her. it never happened , They made Alia only in the 90's.
The Hagana Smuggled groups of Jews Children to British Controlled Palestine .
she was raised In a Kibutz By the Galilee sea (Degania) without any immediate family next to her.
She completed her education, served in the Army, got married, raised a family and had a long Career as a chief Nurse in one of Israel's Biggest Hospitals.
I am always in owe when reflecting on her extraordinary life story.
I am so proud of her!
I’ve been to several kibbutzims in the south and I’ve hears a couple of similar stories - children going to Israel alone and being raised there. It’s both awe inspiring and heartbreaking to hear. 🙏
crazy. thanks for sharing her story!
We as Christian around the world know how the Jewish people became prisoners and were in Babylon the last minor Prophets like Amos,Hosea, Obadiah, Habakkuk . That explains when the Jewish people were released what they had to grow through and people started to disobey God and started more to Baal worshipers because of Babylon were worshiping Baal maybe they don't want the truth to be told to the world so by creating this Anti Semitic against Israel and the try to white wash their own History.They can lie but can they hide from the Almighty God.
My saba has a very similar story just that it was from Aleppo
Thank you both for shedding light on this. The oppression in the Islamic world is repulsive and disheartening.
Yes, you're so right.
Especially that there's all this propaganda about "how well the Jews and Arabs lived together"
I'm an Israeli Jew, my grandparents were born in Yemen, and since October 7th it's very important for me to tell their story.
My grandfather was born in Yemen, his father died when my grandfather was very young (~5 years old), and there was an Islamic law in Yemen that every Jewish boy under 12 yo without a father must be converted to Islam by force and taken away from his family. He told me that one day his mother took her entire family from their home (him and older sister and brother) and they all escaped their home and lived in a literal cave for few days to hide from the Yemeni authority. After that they lived as homeless for few years until Israel saved them. This is only one story of one of my grandparents.
The Majority of Yemeni Jews are pure Arabs from Qahtany tribes like Al Azd , Kholan and Himyar ..... etc
The Y-DNA results confirmed that the Yemenite Jews are Arabs carry the Haplogroup J1 like Arabs.
I encourage you to do the Y-DNA test in order to know your real origin \ root . God bless you .
A fellow Yemeni here. So sad to hear that, the Terror and injustice that was inflicted on Jews in Yemen and the Whole of Middle East under the name of Islam is dishearting. I eush we could live diversely and peacefull in our own lands without the Religions that divide us
As an Ashkenazi Jew, I am shocked at our lack of knowledge of the Mizrahi history. This needs to be shared so much more. I very much grew up with this idea that Jews were always treated as equals by Arab countries and it was only the West that discriminated. We really need to learn to present the WHOLE of Jewish history, not just the European version.
I wish Yasmin would have you on her show...
I am also a half-Mizrahi, half-Ashkenazi Israeli Jew. My great grandparents were persecuted out of Iran, Germany, Poland, and Slovakia.
They all came here met, fell in love and created beautiful diverse families (Americans were unable to believe that me and my sister actually share both parents, and for some reason they Americans are considered the diverse nation).
I also survived Oct. 7, hiding a few hundreds of feet from the massacre. Even despite the terror that looms over my life since I was born, I would rather be a free, proud Jew in my ancestral land, and not a dhimi or a closeted western jew.
I also want to address the discrimination of Mizrahi Jews in Israel that she mentioned. I am not saying it didn't happen, but my family's experience has been very different. My Mizrahi family got to Israel with very little, my Ashkenazi family got here with quite a lot.
By the time I was born, my Ashkenazi family has chosen a very modest lifestyle in a small kibbutz, and my Mizrahi family is actually very successful. My very brown grandfather recounted being discriminated for being a religious man, but never for his skin color or family origin. He reached a very prominent public role, and his pension is still higher than the salary of my hi-tech programmer light-skinned brother-in-law.
I myself am brown. Never experienced racism. Again - it exists, but I think to a far lesser degree than in the US for example
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The tax you pay under Islam is 1. Less than your countries taxes 2. Less than the obligatory tax Muslims have to pay.
Well said!!! 🇮🇱
@@Ufb10You're ridicules
Thank you for highlighting Mizrahi stories ❤
On the topic of history repeating itself on October 7th: If you read Enat Wilf’s book The War of Return, she describes the violence inflicted upon the Jews in Safat, Hebron and Jerusalem. The Arabs brutally mutilated the bodies of Jews. A photographer took pictures of the mutilated bodies and sold small prints that Arabs would proudly carry around in their wallets, like trophies. Reading this chilled me to the bone because it is just like all the go-pro footage that Hamas and their people took of what they did on October 7th.
He is a liar like Israel.
it's a recurring theme. Similar with the Ramallah lynching.
10-7- 23 is a REPLICA of Mohammad unwarranted massacre of the KHAIBAR Jews, near Medina. Muslims like to remind of this cowardly event during their manifestations..
Yep
I am from Europe, specifically the Balkans (ethnic Hungarian living in Serbia). The Ottoman Empire ruled here for hundreds of years, they also collected taxes and little boys were taken away from their families to be raised as muslim soldiers. When they grew up they came back to their homeland to fight against their own people and occupy more and more land..
So when I hear things like 'all whites are colonizers' from the american media, I am so irritated. For us it happened the other way around, but nobody seems to care about it because it's "islamophobic" to talk about that.. I don't hold anything against the turkish people who live today because they were not the ones doing it, but I think this can still serve as a cautionary tale to how destructive Islam can be.
You are both so beautiful and loved. Thank you Yasmine, I love to hear from your guests it helps me put into perspective the history and lived experiences of my Jewish sisters so I can be an ally. One love from your African sister.
I’m half yemenite and half Irish. I relate to everything she said about not looking like my moms family and not knowing my fathers family and constantly being asked what I am and if I was adopted. It’s crazy how similar our stories are.
What I love in israel is the mixed. All the jews have common genes from the father side and mixed with non-jews most from the mother's side. That way we close genetic and we also different genetic that what I like.
You took me back to when I was a kid in Syria. The Muslim kids used to chase us with rocks
Very sad indeed 🇦🇺 🤗 🇮🇱 .
Ummmm...I am trying to understand why people don't understand that the Jews need a land of their own...they yteat them like shte and persecute them...we dont want you here...but we don't want you there...look underneath...that's Genocide.
Anti zionism = anti semitism
The big question that needs to be asked is why Palestinian supporters do not talk about the situation of Jews over the years in Arab countries and why they focus only on Jews who came from Europe.
It’s not that complex. Because much history is Eurocentric.
Also Partly because after the Spanish expelled the Jews and Muslims a mythos was set up to contrast western antisemitism against the relative tolerance under Islamic rule in Spain. The aim was to criticise the west but it also minimised the abuse under Islamic rule.
This was aided by the perception of treatment during the crusades which ignored the fact that it would make more sense to compare the treatment of Jews under Byzantium and under the Islamic states than the crusaders who were religious fanatics and would be better compared to the pogroms by Islamic fanatics.
Because they would have to admit that the war is about religious persecution of Jews, and not the land dispute that they claim?
@@IdeaPants365huh but the current conflict is about land
@@apriljoy1094 My current hypothesis is that Westerners use Mus because they want to feel enlightened themselves and not openly admit that they have held the same Hate and conspiracies about Jws.
@@user-pg5re1cg7d No. The current conflict was never about land, Israel is TINY, it is Islamic supremacism and entirely originates from Islamic bigotry and hatred of the Jews especially and, of course, everyone else. Israel outshines its neighbours in every possible way. That makes the Islamo-nazis extremely envious which adds to their depraved hatred.
As an Ashkenazi, I realise how little of the history of the jews I knew and even bought into the whole colonialsation thing as a student. It's only fairly recently that the whole picture of all of us is coming out.
Oy vey. Read & listen to lectures. Visit Israel! If you don’t know our history their bs sounds plausible since it is accepted so widely. The truth is most are ignorant of history, especially Jewish history.
I'm Israeli and half Sephardic as well (Libyan on my mother's side), my mom's entire family fled/driven out of Tripoli after the anti Jewish riots there, leaving everything they had behind. They fled by foot with nothing but the clothes on their backs, leaving behind all their belongings, their homes and businesses. My grandmother who was about 12 at the time had to go out and work odd jobs at the market place like pitting dates or chopping onions to help provide for her family (she had 5 younger sisters), one of her sisters (a one year old) even died of malnutrition because there wasn't enough food! This is what people out there do not know, and I dare say, are not interested in knowing.
Good point at MM 9:35 - Islam as colonial religion & colonizing countries since 632 CE
Thank you for saying this. It is a truth that is rarely mentioned.
One of my biggest issues is that way in which people flippantly refer to the "3 Great Abrahamic Religions", when in truth, there was the Jewish People and two religo-imperialist forces that colonized Jewish text...
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@@user-oq7sj2ne6t The Crusades wouldn't exist without muslims though!
When the "Arabization" facet is factored in, it's nature takes an overall genocidal turn. Ottomans were the latest iteration that proved that racism becomes unavoidable,,, because as a colonial force, it's inherently an imperial force, which always rely on divide&conquer.
You are fantastic Yasmine for bringing important issues to light.
I am culturally half-Muslim and am grateful to Yasmine for telling her story. I am very sorry for all the pain you and your people have been through. Islam is antisemitic, and it is up to Muslims and ex-Muslims to speak out regarding this hatred that Muslims are being indoctrinated with.
The antisemitism in the Islamic world is not really rooted in Islam though. Islam contains antisemitic text, but the antisemitism in the Muslim world has more to do with conspiracy theories and stuff like that and a lot of the antisemitism comes from Europe, however antisemitism is widely spread under Muslims.
How can arabs be anti semitic? 😂😂
Mohammed confiscated the oasisof 2 Jewish tribes that had been living in Arabia for 400 years before Mohammed’s birth. A third Jewish tribe was totally destroyed - all its men were beheaded and women and children were sold into slavery
and Mohammed took one of its Jewish women for one of his wives.
These events are recorded by the early Muslim historians who were writing about the life of Mohammed .
Mohammed confiscated the oases of 2 Jewish tribes that had been living in Arabia for 400 years before Mohammed’s birth. A third Jewish tribe was totally destroyed - all its men were beheaded and women and children were sold into slavery
and Mohammed took one of its Jewish women for one of his wives.
These events are recorded by the early Muslim historians such as ibn Ishaq who were writing about the life of Mohammed .
The Jews are land poor because they were not imperialists or colonizers on the other hand the Muslims , the largest imperialists and colonizers in history occupy 600 times more land then Jews . Muslims are super land rich.
European antisemitism found a welcome home amongst Muslims who already thought that Jews as non Muslims are second rate
@@samuelgoldring9691 you are conflating a couple of things, you are conflating arabs with Muslims. Also Arabs are not an ethnic group but rather a term for a group of people that speak Arabic and the Arabic dialects are quite diverse so people that speak different dialects can have a hard time talking to each other. This whole notion of there being plenty of land. Actually usable land is quite scarce. You have Morocco Algeria and tunesia that have green strips of land, Egypt has the nile as the only water resource. You have the Levant region which is a green strip along the east Mediterranean, you have the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq, and the Mountains in Yemen these are the only pieces of productive land. Apart from that the Palestinians are native to the land even if you do DNA testing and everything. It is actually quite funny that most Jews are genetically related to the Palestinians but tend to have a higher admixture of other components because of how the Jews had to flee so they spread out. You can't just say well there is other land you can go to. People have lived there for thousands of years I am not saying Jews should leave either.
My dad was born in Israel in 1949 to Holocaust survivors from Poland. He told me he felt embarrassed and inferior because his parents spoke broken Hebrew with Yiddish accents so I think there was plenty of discomfort and trying to find your place in the early years of the nation.
I grew up in a multicultural Midwest city in the US. I did get some anti Jewish slurs from the kids in the neighborhood, but the boys picked on anybody and everybody for anything.
The various Caucasian kids called names of the Mexican kid, but he was a good pitcher and shortstop and indestructible when it came to fighting, so he earned respect.
I was more nerdy and bookish and was afraid of violence so i didn't win any popularity contests.
I had extremely minimal Jewish religious knowledge, so I couldn't really relate to the one traditional Jewish family nearby. Without anyone telling me, I thought I would be mocked if I "stood out" by leaving public school to get on another bus to go to Hebrew school, so i didn't do that.
My parents grew up in Jewish neighborhoods in the same city, so there was a different kind of sense of solidarity, even though they mixed freely with everyone.
I'm LEARNING my Jewish heritage in my 60s and the facts that Haviv emphasizes, that far from "colonizers", Jews who created Israel (except for some who never left the region) WERE REFUGEES who didn't have anywhere else to go.
Those aren’t contradictory. The Europeans who colonised America were often also refugees from religious persecution. That doesn’t excuse what they did to the native Americans or the slave states they founded
Thank you Yasmine 2X! Y'all are great!
I say this on every interview , but I continue to learn so much from all your interviews
Thank you for your talks.
I learn a lot from your channel. I read your book and cried. So much suffering in this world...
Imagine if they were ordered to pay all that jizya back as reparations.
What an excellent idea. I think I'll plagiarise it.
My father grew up in New Jersey in the 1920s and 30s. He tells the same stories of American kids (Christians) throwing rocks at him on his way to Hebrew school and synagogue. Happened HERE too.
While that wasn’t cool it is not the same thing. Well the rocks are but the history, culture & government differ.
I’m an Israeli Jew and watching this conversation made me understand you guys and girls in the US give color much more meaning than the rest of us do.
We should all be color blind
It's not like that in the US. Transatlantic slave trade and the mindset from it has impacted the US for generations.
I was under the impression that lighter colored Jews are prejudiced against darker skinned Jews. Am I wrong? As far as the USA goes, dark skinned people were slaves. Arabic for dark skinned person is “slave”. Jews were slaves to Muslims in Islam. It’s just a way to put people in boxes so you don’t have to listen to their personal stories. Philippine people use an umbrella to keep their skin lighter, because dark skin means menial worker. There’s many pieces to this puzzle. The truth is rarely pure, and never simple.
The past 10 years the leftist mainstream culture went full intersectionality politics and it’s working. American Jews however are the one group that gets hatred from both the fair left and fair right. It’s a lose lose situation.
Ethnic and racial differences - tribalism are grounds for discrimination in every part of the world.
It's such a beautiful thing when a society such as Israel is blind to these external differences
@@veronicaredeemedhuh but Israel is an ethno state and also jews from different regions face discrimination in Israel
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
Thank you for educating people on how dhimmitude IS apartheid.
I got my Masters in Spanish lit in the 1990's and realize now that I was totally dogmatized, hearing in every class how great the
"convivencia"
between Muslims, Christians snd Jews was, how terrible the Christians were, how the Renaissance was thanks to the Arabic scholars.
I never learned of
"dhimmi" or the humiliations in class.
It was already the fashion way back then to
only see the ugliness of our past and only the beauty during Muslim rule.
Yes, they translated- great!- but this was because the original civilizations were taken over!
That part was never discussed.
Years later, I read
Dario Fernsndez-Morera's
The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain
and I realized how much had been left out of my education.
It is right to be honest with ourselves about our past - including the dark sides of all cultures involved, if we are to grow beyond them.
I am so angry that I did not know enough to realize what my teachers were doing to my head back then.
Yes it is pitiful that the "dhimmi" status of Jews and Christians went omitted. Many omissions and of course many practices - never discussed.
The Islamic conquest was spread by the sword, invasion, oppression, and in modern times, immigration as a first step. There is also so much ignorance about the treatment of Js and Cs under Islamic rule - "dhimmitude". Sure they were spared death, but it was NO way to live - oppression and subjugation are part of Islamic history. Not all Arbs are M, but no one seems to know about the Arb slave trade(s), either.
I love this conversation thank you. I have a daughter named Jasmine. In part we chose the name because the Jasmine flower is seemingly small and unassuming yet has a strong and attention grabbing scent- the voice of the flower demanding to be recognized. These two Yasmine’s definitely embody that. Thank you.
From Australia, I remember when I found out what people meant when they called someone a Jew, and I can remember thinking 'hows that an insult' still today I think of it as a compliment.
I’m Australia too and feel the same way.😊
My late wife grew up in Morocco, her grandparents had to pay jizya ( some spell it “dzizya), but when the French colonized Morocco in 1912, it was outlawed. Morocco was somewhat more mild after that. Jewish-Muslim relations in Morocco over the centuries were somewhat more positive than in the the rest of the Arabic-speaking world, it depended largely on who the sultans were at the time. Like in many countries, the Jewish population tried to increase their chances of survival by making themselves helpful to the rulers. “Study and study more my son, the survival of your family may well depend on it.”
I love that this channel is finally receiving more attention, as it deserves! Keep the interviews coming!
The comments below are amazing. So many brief testimonies. These stories and many, many more, need to be collected and published. Please!
By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV) - “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.” It surely can't get any simpler than that.
Yasmin should have Francisco Gil-White on her channel. He is an amazing historian who specializes in Middle East conflict among other things and he has a fantastic Substack channel called Management of Reality. He’s also done some great interviews on UA-cam and Spotify. He was a professor at UPENN and was fired for speaking out about Hajj Amin al-Husayni and his influence on WW2. I think Jasmine would really appreciate his take on all of it.
As always, a wonderful conversation. Thanks Yasmine 2x.
Yasmin Mohammad you are a true rightious gentile GOD bless you and your work.
We need to have this conversation with Black American Jews and Native American Jews and all come together
Thank you. I'm more and more interested in listening to the history of mizrahi jews.
Yasmeen sorry about my spelling of your name um thank you so much for raising awareness keep up the good of your work
Great conversation! She was saying a lot of truth .
I love and appreciate your content. you need better sound quality
my grand father came to israel after surviving the holocaust as a german jewish 6 year old. his wife, my grandmother, came to israel from Iran, where people didnt want to touch jews, at the age of 4 with her family.
on my mom's side my great grandparents fled the russian empire in the late 1800's due to the danger of pogroms.
every jew in israel has a similar story.
Every Jew that knows their family history
Agreed..the Quran does has those verses because he was angry that Jewish neighbors would not convert but the eating and head covering came from Jews and desert tribes.
Thank you Yasmine 🙏🏽🙏🏽
every. single. word. BRAVO ladies for this insightful discussion!!! Thank you to both Yamine's. You are both so precious!!!
Ok, Im orthodox jewish and pro-israel, and agree with alot of what this lady is saying, but im not digging her whole woke vibe. The reason why Americans think of Jews as primarily ashkenazi and white has nothing to do with it being more "palatable" or a savior narrative like she says. It's simply because the vast majority of jews who immigrated to the US in the 19th and 20th century were ashkenazi, and therefore ashkenazim formed the american jewish culture. Sometimes things are just the way they are because thats the way they are and there's nothing deep or sinister about it.
Also, i dont like the "Jews are not white" claim. The typical Ashkenazi Jew may be 100% Jewish, but if you take off the yamuka, it's a white guy.
Same with Mizrahi Jews. They may not be muslim, but if you have arabic physical features and speak arabic, it's not crazy that u wud be considered arab. Gad Saad, a lebanese jew, proudly considers himself both Jewish and Arab (and Canadian).
“Whiteness” is a very complicated term, not just a skin color, and stems from US colorism that shouldn’t be used to describe issues outside of the US context. Also, in Europe, Jews were never considered European by non-Jews. Even if you had light skin, you might have Middle Eastern features like heavy eyebrows or large nose. But even if not, Jews were never considered to be equal to non-Jews. Not as people who belonged. So, as the guest says, it doesn’t matter how blond or blue-eyed a Jew is, they aren’t and weren’t “white.” It’s not just about appearance. As someone who has often been mistaken for a Euro-American non-Jew, I’ve experienced what often happens if/when I “come out” as a Jew. When little Irish-American Catholic kids in my neighborhood found out my family was Jewish, they threw rocks and yelled disgusting insults at me at every opportunity. Didn’t care how I looked. So, no, I don’t accept the label “white,” because the haters don’t give a f*ck what we look like.
PS, many white-appearing Jews from Europe are descendants of Jewish women who were raped by non-Jews, which happened to thousands of us over the centuries. Consider that when you label Ashkenazim “white.”
@@Historian212 Yes I get this concept of "whiteness" as being more than a skin color, I hear about it incessantly- and I very strongly object to it. I think it's just new-age wokeness at its most absurd level. Let's be real for just a moment: If I robbed a bank, and witnesses had to give a description to the police, I'd be described as a white male, end of story. The fact that I keep kosher, and my grandmother survived Aushwitz, and I get harrassed by Arabs when they see my kippah, and that I have DNA that traces me back to the middle-east etc... is not relevant.
White means white skin and basic white racial features. It doesnt mean European, because there is already a word that exists that refers to European heritage- namely, the word "European".
Yes the who thing is without fact . DNA studies reveal they are 100% who they say they are. The propaganda that they are white is a convenient and not from the land of Israel is a complete lie.
Yes but almost 60% of Jews in israel are "Arab" Jews, and the western world especially Americans keep referring to the Jews in Israel as white Europeans.
I’m a middle eastern immigrant woman to the USA and I have never never never experienced any sort of racism or misogyny! And I have been here over 40 years!
I'm mizrahi (Iraqi-jew) and I just want to thank you for putting light on this
So moving. Bless you and your family .
Caveat that there are Mizrahi Jews also in former Soviet states like Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan and even Russia. Iranian-descended Jews like Juhuro and Bukharian Jews.
Thank you for this.
My parents had to leave everything behind in Baghdad. They went through the Farhoud (the big pogrom on the holiday of Shavuot), the finally left to Israel in 1950. I’m the first ‘Sabrah’ of my family to be born in Israel.
I don't know if it can be of worthiness, but here is a story that my Dad told me from his Dad ("Jiddo" as we say in Arabic): My Jiddo was a merchant in his small town in SE Syria (ca 1950s-1960s) and would often travel to find new business partners or someone they can rely on to send items or merchandise to his shop. One day, he travelled with him to the town of Hassake (NE Syria) and met with a good merchant friend. This merchant was Jewish and Jiddo told to my dad something like: "Son, this merchant is Jew but I will trust him anytime over any Arab merchant. He is fair, and trustful to his word". Time passed and the merchant was gone overnight without warning.
One thing that seems to happen after 1948 is the increased tightening grip of the Syrian Government over Syrian Jews. One thing that was imposed on them was curfew: you should be home by sunset and you should have your lights and radio on. This is how Jews escaped from Syria: they left in the middle of the night, incognito, while letting their lights and radio on. Taking at best two suitcases per person as the sole belongings, without notice.
In Aleppo, the historical Jewish quarter, "Al Jamaliyah", was almost empty by the 80s, with Assad father (Hafez) really being ironclad to avoid any of the community to further expect. The hatred of the Jew was even further increased after the second humiliation of 1967 because of the Golan Heights, and became a convenient prop for the regime to pose as "The Resistance to Zionists". Syria also became a hotbed of several Nazes officers that found refuge there, and served as consultants in Assad prisons torture rooms.
It is a very very sad story, amongst many, to hear and how dramatic we have lost a fabric of our Syrian society, as we can see and hear in the Syrian Jewish community in their weekly Maqam.
If only the Arabs used trade with Israelis, exchanging goods versus bullets, the Levantine and the Middle-East would have been very different.
thanks for this share. I am Ashkenazi Jew who came to Isaiah 52 last 3 verses and chapter 53, my best friend and forgiver of my sins. I love Israel and all people, but I do not like the bad things that they do. pray for the best for everyone, amen.
With great respect, I must nuance the statement that there’s a difference between Islamic anti-Jewishness and the Nazi anti-Jewishness, because the former is about religion and the latter is a political-philosophical movement. Actually, both are racist. But more to the point: the Nazis could never have gained support for its mass slaughter of Jews without the underpinning of anti-Judaism woven into Christian European culture since the 4th century Roman emperor Constantine. It was the predominance of anti-Judaism and othering of Jews based on Christian doctrines that set the table, as it were, for Nazism. Examples are plentiful, but Google Martin Luther’s screeds against Jews, written toward the end of his life, after he wasn’t able to convert Jews to Christianity by being nice to them. Luther called for the Talmud and all Jewish books to be burned, and synagogues, too, and for Jews to be driven from Germanic lands, if they still refused to convert. (Luther was the famous Catholic priest who sparked the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.)
Anti-Jewish racism and anti-Judaism were part of Christian Europe since before England banished its Jews in 1290. Christian crusaders slaughtered Jews across Europe, alongside their slaughter of Muslims. This history needs to be acknowledged as the foundation of the complicity of many people around the world who turned a blind eye to Jewish suffering during the Shoah.
@Historian212 Very true. The Inquisition followed Jews to S. America. It’s why the first Jews to set foot in New Amsterdam arrived there specifically - a Dutch Colony, not Spanish- they were Sephardic of course. I’m not clear on your distinction between Islamic antisemitism & Nazi antisemitism. I mean does it matter?? Different strains of the same thing. It sounds like you would know the Rabbi Sach’s take on the evolution of antisemitism. Clearly new versions will be created- not religious, race, philosophical, scientific, or human rights based. Right now most of the previous iterations are commingling making it a powerful pill. Islamists picked up Nazi ideology and mixed it with Islam. Hamas is a great example.
Yea...I love Yasmine...such interesting people on her show
I love that line "I'm not afraid of Becky from Ohio".
I didn't listen it all yet, I stopped at the Farhud as an Israeli iraqi jew decent it is important for me to tell about the Farhud riots: They happened in the Summer of 1941specifically on Shavuot, a jewish holiday when it was known that during Shavuot the jews are out side dressed white and can be spotted from the crowd, they used to go to a grave of Ezekial the prophet (ziara)...
The resemblance to October 7th is big as she said. The british weren't around, it took them 3 days to come and rescue the jews, according to a testemony I herd (I herd many including my grandparents...) there was a truck full of naked dead bodies of jewish women, who were probably rapped going aroynd Bagdad presenting and parading the bodies (we know this from a jew girl who was wearing a black abaya all the time, people thought she is muslim so she went on the streets whille her family was hiding until it was safe to go out...), my grand father escaped on roof tops and ran all the way from Bagdad to Basra, my Grandmother survived because they had a lot of gold jewleries they gave to neigbors who came to kill them, her cusin was shot trying to escape.
The jews of Iraq had to leave all of their property behind some managed to hide some money in the razors, less than 10 rich people didn't leave Iraq because it was so bad.
My kurdish grandmother says there were many other riots, they were told soon Hitler will come here and kull all of you jews... her brother sat 3.5 years in Iraqi jail just for being a jew until the jewish agency managed to bring him to Israel.
It is very importamt for me to tell these stories, so that people will know why it is so important for me that we have Israel, wishing we will have a better future alongside Palestinians.
Thank you for this interview.
@Bettybaminjerusalem
Yes, Yes, and emphatically Yes to everything you shared. The looting on Oct. 7 also was triggering for its echoes with past pogroms/massacres including the Farhood.
This all requires documenting so much more!! You are right that we all need to know this.
@@SandraKanferClarke Thank you so much for reading and responding. It means a lot ❤️
@@Bettybaminjerusalem ❤
My great grandparents also came through Ellis Island and their ethnicity was classified as Hebrew but their race was listed as Caucasian/white.
But they were still 100% Jewish believe me.
@@Uuilll3L I didn't say otherwise.
Yet many places didn't care, it was about no Jews allowed.
Loved the Jewish woman Elisheva Ari who came in at 01:38:30. She was very honest and unapologetic. It would be such a shame to lose the American diaspora, even if I understand if many want to do Aliyah instead.
Heborn massacre was indeed in 1929. You got it right the first time...=)
Such an amazing episode! Yasmin you are inspiring, (both 😊)
As an israeli, there was one thing i just have to correct you, and its only because i live here and know it first hand, : you said about the courage to rise against the oppressor, and gave examples such as the Iranian, and the protests in israel. And i just have to tell you: there is absolutely no comparison, to take part in a protest here takes some courage of course, but not alot, it's not like the protests were violently shot down, its not dangerous! You will not be in jail unless you'll hit a cop, or burn stuff, and i know! I've there! Even before the war, yes there were violent clashes, but not to the point that anyone would be too scared to protest again, this is truely a case of our media which reported it in an over exaggerated way, left wing media want to show how "insane" the cops and government is so they tell horror stories and paint a picture of doom, while right wing media want to show how "insane" the protestors are, and both tell stories which are disgusting in my eyes.
The reality as I've seen it everyday, because i live where it all happened and still happens. (My apartment is literally above the main place of protests..)
The truth is much more complicated and not AT ALL like some brave people rising against an evil government.
I will try to sum it up in the shortest way i can, but im not sure i can explain it .. ill try:
1. Ive been a leftist all my life, grew up religious, not religious today at all, but i believe in people, not labels, and like many others, i found out my zionism only since october, and allso found myself politicaly homeless, ive allways didnt like bibi, and many others in the government,
And i rooted for the protestors actually, but i found myself not able to participate, why? Because i know how cultish mindset look and feel, i spent alot of my years pushing against any form of dogma, and ive seen it in places that surprised me, for example, i left the religion, and met people who helped me, an organization, and i appreciate their help to this day, but i disassociated from them when i saw they were to much nerrow minded and wanted to help people who left this "abusive" religious situation, and when i said that actually i never experienced abuse, i just dont believe in god, never have, and yes you can definitely promote changes, and help abuse victims etc, but i think its people who are abusive, not the religion, im very connected to my family, to my old friends, and they actually respect me alot! And its hassidic community, the "worst" in a way, (gur) .
But i actually find good people, alot of them, i actually could have never seen it even in my imagination, they keep surprising me for the good, my married friend told me to stop wearing long skirts when i come to her home, which i did out of respect and i didnt want to look weird to her children.. but after a while she told me she trusts me, knows im appropriate, and her kids know there are different opinions in the world, so she wanted me to come as i am, meaning wear jeans and not put on a "costume" for her.
My father rip was a gere chussid, and he absolutely loved me and would do anything to make me feel welcomed, he couldn't stand to see me shamed or disrespect . And i respect them all as well, but on the other hand im not going to be where i dont feel my heart is. And i had to work hard to reach this amazing place of balance, its the real peace. Its me.
Sorry for this but i wanted to let you know my background so you'll believe me when i say:
I found myself confused and a bit taken beck when i realized there's a fraction in israeli society which has developed some weird obsession with the government, they demonized bibi to the point that im frankly scared, they actually believe that he is the source of all evils, and if only he would step down everything will be great, its delusional and its dangerous, i cannot explain it, because im not entirely sure yet of what is the explanation, but my current conclusion is that there is left wing people here, who have found themselves lost, all they ever believed was shattered in one day. They used to think we are the problem, if only we would give land, if only we would be more liberal and progressive, and they were very loud and combative in a way, which is actually the natire of leftism in a way, they are the people who stand against the popular opinions and say things that make people lose their shit, proteganists, allways have been.
But they have to face the grim reality of : they simply hate us, its not our fault, we are the victims here, again, we are the jews who can only hope for mercy, they spent the last century thinking that were in a different place, the Holocaust happend because the jews were too much "jewy" they have a word for it, "galooti" which of course means the Hassidic jew from the small shtetl in poland and he does not fight back, and walks like sheep to slaughter (not my words, im sure you've heard it before) so they cannot face reality, and they cannot do acts of protest like before, i e stand with gazans againt "apertheid " and "occupation "
Thats undeniably was false nerratives, and its because we dont teach enough history here to kids , not in a way which confronts the nain issues, its possible to grow up here and believe lies about previous generations, we are so full of self checking as people that we dont actually remember to explain to our kids why we are correct , not in a fact based way, only in some national emotion which is supposed to be obvious, but its not, i used to believe it, i assumed we were cruel and kicked out arabs and possibly slaughtered, i never checked, because it never really bothered me that much, i assumed im a leftist, because they tend to be non religious, progressive, compassionate, want peace, you know... But the right is allways talked as extremists, as not sophisticated, traditional, they are portraid as animalistic in a way, and thats not the case only in israel, i allways believed there are people on the right which only want war and want revenge and hate arabs,
I found out all of those thing are not true, not the right is as portrayed, and not the left.
Im still politically homeless, and i think its impossible to choose one way or the other, it's not ok that we have to pick one dogma and go with it whatever happens, how come no one sees it doesn't make any sense?
Ok so i digress.. 😅
Dont buy into the narrative, i dont know what is the solution, but i can tell you the facts:
1. Bibi has many flaws, but he is not an evil demon, he is an old man , politician, probably narcissist like most leaders of states are, and there are allso good things to his credit, like the abraham accords, like some thing in the economy which are actually much better, butim not an expert, im just not seeing a dictator, just a man which is past his best days, and needs to be out of the government asap because at this point no one wants him. No one. He seems lost and he needs to go home. I believe most israelis agree with that.
But i think the problem is not over when he is not in power, this is NOT hitler! We need to work on our government, bring new people, new ideas, he is huge part of the problem, but people seem to forget there were terror attacks long long before he finished university, they blame him for october 7th, and im old enough to remember when hammas was not a problem, we never said hammas, we said fatah, yasser Arafat, i grew up during the second intifada, busses blew up left right and center, and what about the war of 72? People forget bibi is not our problem. Im amazed by the delusion of the protests. They mean well, but im not sure what causes them to be so cultish
34:58 No it is not "stolen land"🙄 stolen from who? One tribe who had just raided, massacared & taken slaves from another tribe? Tribes that didnt have any form of governments over the land etc etc. Hell ppl in England could say that too. Where are the native Brits before the Vikings, Saxons, Normans etc came & took over etc. Stop it with that bs dei crt "stolen land" nonsense. Its asinine same as the term gentrification🙄
Thank you Yasmine, for speaking up against oppression ❤
Thank you Yasmine ×2, Tochi, Sarah, Elisheva ❤❤❤❤
Although many Ashkenazim have internalized what might sociologically be called "whiteness", Ashkenazim are undoubtedly a mixed-race group like the Métis of Canada, with half or more of their ancestry coming from the Levant (Israel & "Bilad as-Sham"), West Asia (Iraq, Iran, the Caucasus), and Eastern Mediterranean (Cyprus, Greece, Sicily) combined (an admixture profile shared with Syrian and Romaniote Jews) and on average only one-eighth or less coming from Northern and Eastern Europe combined (basically what sets Ashkenazim apart from Sephardim is this small amount of northern admixture), the rest coming mostly from the Western Mediterranean (Italy, southern France, Spain, Portugal--an admixture profile shared with Sephardic and Italki Jews) with small amounts of North African and Turkic/Sinitic admixture thrown in. Just as the European admixture in the Métis (and the Cree and Tlingit and Cherokee, among others) does not diminish or dilute their indigenous status, the same should be acknowledged for Ashkenazim.
I keep going to like this video again, but I already liked it. I had a young progressive rabbi try to diminish the persecution of Mizrahim/Sephardim when living under Muslim rule. This conversation was in October - and I was just shocked.
According to the history that I know, the First Exile was after the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem in 586 BC -- with most of those exiled to Babylon.
A thriving Jewish community remained in that region for nearly 2600 years, until it was forced out.
Also: Like others, Judeans/Jews migrated to neighbouring territories through most of history.
Following the Hellenistic conquest around 330 BC some Jews migrated throughout the Hellenistic world, from Iran, through the rest of the Mediterranean basin, as far as the Iberian peninsula.
During the Roman Imperial period it is known there were Jews residing through much of the empire.
The second major forced exile happened after the Great Jewish Revolt in 73 AD.
Another major exile occurred after the Bar Kochva Revolt in 135 AD.
Most of those exiles were taken by force (as slaves) and spread through the empire.
Incidentally, after that second revolt the province of Judea was incorporated to it's northern neighbour: Syria-Palestina. The Romans renamed the region on purpose, to obscure Jewish links to it. Similarly they renamed Jerusalem to Ilya-Capitolina.
Throughout this history, Jewish communities remained in the holy land/Judea/Palestina.
I tried to have a conversation but others don’t.
I cried when I heard her grand mom walked from Uzbekistan to Afghanistan via India , PREGNANT😢.
Ethiopian Jews and Yemeni Jews took long walks also. Not all used planes in an airlift.
About the rallies in Israel, they contain about few dozen thousand. In 2 years there were 0 charges against them. It is complicated but it is not as dangerous and wide spread as Yasmine says.
Jews i the arab world: I live i Paris, should have interviewed....oups
Thanks to both the Yasmins! This was very informative and certainly a clear and precise account of the Islamic radicals and Jews under Moslem rule. However, I would have assumed that civilization had moved beyond the dark age of radicalism and settled into a more lenient mode of life. The sad part here is that the Jewish people ( with the exception of the extreme religious minority) live by these standards. The war cries towards Jews are by Muslims snd their supporters are coming from the very people who have oppressed and killed in the name of Allah. Why can't people see this!?
It's funny, I'm the only blonde in my jewish family and no one thought I was related to my mom who was half ashkenazi and half sephardic. No one believed I was Jewish either. So it goes both way haha. People would assume my family was rich and once had slaves... and I said no, my holocaust (which included sephardic and ashkenazi family) were recently slaves. Really it boils down to people say dumb stuff. It took me awhile to realize that and not let it bother me..
Thank you for sharing the story of Jews in the Middle East! Azril Bacal Roij
Very warm..loyal.. hospitable .
Beautiful
Such an incredibly important discussion perfectly time for all the lack of knowledge in these very dark times....I know a white Irish poor man who became diabetic type II and was told that bc he had no health ins. they would not be able to give him a glucometer....He had no idea how critical it was for dealing w diabetes AND had assumed that that device must cost thousands of $$$....He found himself in an ER outside of his area and the doctors who took care of him were shocked that he was never given a glucometer and that the cost of the machine was NOT thousands of dollars....just awful and so so wrong...Ignorance hurts us all. Loved this conversation and the info provided.
To respond to what the last speaker said and in regards to not being scared of what people say or think as they are toothless tigers or keyboard warriors: I posted a while back on IG a meme of “me too unless you are a Jew” and I immediately got messaged by a woman who was a childbirth educator, someone I would have normally admired, who told me I needed to “rethink” my post and went on a tirade about how Israel is running the world. I immediately blocked that person and I did not remove my post, I instead posted that I will not be intimidated for speaking the truth.
Wow so interesting
Thank you🙏
I am a grandma of twins one looks Ashkenazic and one Sephardi because we are mixed and they are gorgeous
Thank you for all your hard work ❤
Damn, that music at the start was good
Great session. Loved it.
I did the same with the Bible teaching and repeating this harm like on native Americans. She told me to walk away and not comment on her space. I said no!
Anthropologists & Biblical historians/scholars have long disproven the Kharzan theory.
I hate that one. Along the same lines as I can’t be antisemitic when I’m a Semite 🤪
People don’t know history.
Also genetic studies too shown that Ashkenazi were like a Judean-Italian mix at first so they did have roots in Judea.
They should make a movie about the farhood.
Partial video in “The Forgotten Refugees” documentary. Looks like 10/7
She's lovely and I learned a lot about the history and experiences of Mizrahi Jews. However, when she started going off with the intersectional bs and critical race theory crap, I just switched off. Part of the problem with the Palestinians is they're professional victims or 'Crybullies'. We are never going to get out of this mess until we stop glorifying victimhood.
1:18:00- She is right. Social media has erased nuance. Totally.
Me too! I have check white when I know I am a mix and also middle eastern origins
Bedazzled show model is the mini infinite medical
Bukhari food is the best! I have friends of that background and they say things were decent in Uzbekistan. Yes they lived as dhimmis but the violence was rare. Apparently the president is asking Jews to come back lol
Regardless of any opinion/bias on this, don't downplay any war and any atrocities, the conversation felt slightly dehumanizing and religious when it came to the current conflict... Expecting sympathy and understanding is mutual and she did not emphasize on that, which is probably why this conflict exist in the first place. Identities are not borders, and politics don't mix with beliefs. Drop the us vs them mentality, how do you think that resolves anything other than resentment? I enjoyed the highlights and experiences shared, not the indirect passive aggressive tone that even muslims have, be careful not to become the thing you hate.
And questions
No instigram?
Amazing story 🥲💞🫒
Thanks ! Jiziah and Dhimmi. Applied in the past.. this account here seems to be a reminiscence on feelings locked in a past some of these recent memories coincided in history with the creation of Israel. But it is well known too that before that Christians and Jews prospered in Arab countries
Secular Syria most recently with all its factions and ethnicities in recent history fought recently against Isis and al Qaeda to repel fundamental Islam. We all know that moderate Muslims have to respect Judaism as they believe that Jews and Christians are people of the book.
1:05:30 that’s about Mizrachi Jews is incorrect. It is true that like in many other immigrants the Mizrachi Jews had to fight for their place in society but in Israel today there is no difference between Mizrachi and Ashkebazi. And it not true that there are more Arab Israeli than Mizrachi Jews in the parliament or in universities. Yes, some political factions in Israel (like SHAS) use their past hardship to create representation but as fact of life in Israel there is no discrimination between Ashkenazi and Mizrachi
Thank you for talking about this
No need to go that far a nation to see differences in skin colour. My sibling have brown skin n my skin is yellow. We are one Chinese family from same parents same mother and same father . Also my other sibling looks like Caucasian.
This differences in skin colour is exist , even in one family.
How long yasmine Esther is out of ISRAEL? Because there are NO more Israeli arabs more than mizrahi jews in the parliament or what she said... I don't think it was ever true. I live in Israel.