This Next Season is Absolutely INSANE | Hope Summers will be a NIGHTMARE! | Marvel Snap Chat Ep 70
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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00:00 - 03:12 Welcome and Today's Topics
03:12 - 03:35 Alex's Topics
03:35 - 05:05 Sponsor
05:05 - 06:50 Chad Killmonger
06:50 - 24:09 Hope Summers: Best Season Pass Card?
24:09 - 35:44 Pixie: The Next Loki?
35:44 - 44:12 Mockingbird Ranking
44:12 - 48:58 Half Life and Gaming Career
48:58 - 53:15 Cannonball Ranking
53:15 - 01:01:35 War Machine Ranking
01:01:35 - 01:02:16 Outro - Ігри
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looks a lot like snap...
I choked on my coffee when I heard Alex said Killmonger variant looks like him 😂
ITS A GREAT MONTH TO BE A MARVEL SNAP PLAYER
When is it not?
YAAAAASSSSS
He said the thing!
Is it though? I haven't played since Jan. Deleted the app off my devices. The thing that bugs me about this game is it reminds me of Warhammer 40K. Let me explain. I had an obnoxious number of figures in 3rd edition and when they when to 4th edition, they nerfed all the good figures and released figures you needed to buy to be competitive. You needed the 'new shinies' as it were. Snap is the same, they nerf what was powerful yesterday so you must have the cards that are powerful today in order to maintain competitiveness and to get you to spend money. I have not been happier getting rid of this game.
I was curious to see the new cards for April. I know you're more conservative that Cozy, and the fact your dishing out high 4's is a clear indication this mentality at Snap HQ hasn't changed.
HOLY SHIT HE SAID IT!!!
Hope Summers is going straight into Thanos replacing Lockjaw
Unfortunately
Well it only shuffles what started there so I guess you gotta get lucky with a lockjaw swap.
@@MrBreakdownxthats Pixie, not Hope
@@themightybrick2264 my bad I was reading while listening to pixie part of the video.
I don’t think so
Wasn't excited for War Machine until I found out about his synergy with Infinaut
Needing 6 Energy will stop you from playing Infinaut anywhere next turn 😋
Although as Alex says, Hope Summers' teamwork makes the dream work
@@erismo2138 huh? 20 power is more than worth spending 6 energy on. Have you never heard of Evolved Hulk or Blob?
So youre rank 20 @@erismo2138
The War Machine -> Ebony Maw is also very real. Effectively a 5/15 play, better than a Zero'd Red Skull. Plus it gives you more versatility on when to play them since they cost less compared to the Infinaut combo.
war machine into infanaut won't work because infanaut only works if you don't play a card the previous turn so it won't work
The surfer build with hope actually lets you play an additional 3 cost vs Sera. Hope on 3, 3drop on 4 proc Hope, 2 3’s on five, 2 3’s on six. 6 3’s total vs sera which lets you play 5 3’s total. Also hope lets you do turn 6 surfer absman while still getting 5 total 3 drops (incl surfer).
Don't forget that you can do all this without having to worry about Mr. Mobius!
Shes immediately fitting into my Surfer deck. I always try to include a Wong and Odin combo by getting a turn 7 and using Wave to drop Odin and another 3 drop onto the Wong. Hope Summers is going to make this even better to get 7 energy for 6 to drop Wong and Surfer.
What Alex is missing in his energy math is that Sera costs 5 while Hope costs 3, but they have the same power (Hope actually has more if you consider that she gets buffed by Surfer). He's wondering how to match the 3 energy Sera saves you, but 2 of them are right there, so Hope only has to save you 1 to match Sera, and she can do better than that. That said, she does make your turn 6 less explosive, which is significant. Still, I think she has a strong chance to at least match Sera's power in Surfer decks.
@@christopherbrown2388 Also allows for turn 6 Surfer + Abs man as well so more flexible. Agree overall she will be better than Sera except have to draw by turn 3 instead of 5. Could also see both being in the deck to allow 2 ways to get the cards out.
@@christopherbrown2388 my bad man, I miss understood you initially. Thats good point for surfer decks that extra 3 drop would probably be more helpful than Sera. (Deleted my previous comment to no confuse others)
The time has come to prepare the red carpet for the new card of the meta, WAR MACHINE
BOOM! Ya looking for this?
I was top 50 in North America for Warcraft Frozen Throne too! In the 2 vs 2 mode. We ran dual night elves. Bears, Dryads and Huntress/Talons/Chimeras. What a throwback! Cool to hear Alexander was playing the same game back in the day and was also in top 50 ranking 😎
I was a Night Elf main too! LETS GO!
Disappointed you were an ally, Alex :( For the horde! Lok tar ogar!
@@AlexanderCoccia that’s awesome! Those were some fun times! Appreciate the reply.
Hopefully one day they make WC4 😁 anyways, just subbed. Thanks for the blast from the past and insightful Snap content 👏🏻
34:57 The last card I've bought with tokens was a variant. Got the hulk. Can't remember what I got before then and that's been months and months. It's a struggle as a mostly f2p player to keep up with playing enough to bank the keys needed to get the cards every week. And not having an off week anymore is harder. They really should do at least 1 s4 since series drops are not going to really happen anymore.
44:39 you can see Mockingbird in Agents Of Shield she's Bobbi Morse. Also yeah the Half-Life series are some of the best games
I could see Pixie being good with new Adam Warlock
Came here to say this
Copium
Nothing will save that now horrible card
I'm excited to see how Pixie's mechanic actually shakes out in live matches. I think she'll definitely make for some fun and interesting plays however, I've always been skeptical of the mechanics that have the "shuffle" word in their language. The Subterranea location states "shuffle" but everytime I draw into at least 2 rocks back to back right after it showing up.. Korg and Rock Slide state "shuffle" but those back to back rocks are literally always within my next 1-2 draws and never end up near the bottom of my deck. Maybe it's just my luck in Snap lol but I could definitely see me playing Pixie down then immediately drawing the original low cost cards that now cost 6 back to back, and none of the 6 drops that got switched w lower costs😂😂
I think Hope as a ramp option will only really make sense in Kitty or Silk decks. The important thing to realize is that compared to other 3 cost ramps, it only benefits you on turns 5 and 6. Since ramp basically skips the first 2 turns, not doing anything meaningful on 4 is just not feasible.
This guy gets it
Yeah the only way I’ve found to use her in a ramp deck to cheat turn four is to combo with a 0-cost on turn three, or Psylocke on turn two and a 1-cost on three. Both of these fill your deck with garbage cards and don’t even work half the time.
Hah Alex that apm discussion was a blast from the past. I also trained and played Starcraft Broodwar in the early 2000s, played it competetively and everyone in Sweden was flexing their APM aswell :) I never had that high APM, averaging 150-170 across a typical game. While the pro koreans had around 400.
I would rank the new season Mockingbird > Hope > War Machine > Pixie > Cannonball, but yeah, it's going to be quite a meta shift in March. If Hope is anywhere near as popular as Ms. Marvel, I do wonder how that changes the value of cards like Cosmo or the Guardians in response.
I think Mockingbird will be lower than that. Due to they have to be in play. I think War Machine will be the top card of the month. Being able to play anywhere is just really powerful with locations and current meta. It can also bring goose back where you can shut down someone's lane.
I loved watching the snap production commercial for this season. you are hilarious as always! ty for the content brother
Both Cozy and Alex listed my entire gaming childhood, from kotor and ME to literally every other game. You guys rock, keep up the amazing content
If you Black Swan (next turn all of your 1 cost cards cost 0), then on the following turn, play Pixie, does it shuffle the zero cost to the cards in your deck? (assuming that you have one cost cards still in your deck)
For Hope Summers in a Silver Surfer deck, a really simple but effective line of play would be:
> T3: Summer.
> T4: Play something on Summer OR Summer + 1-drop on top of her.
> T5: x2 3-drops (set-up).
> T6: x2 3-drops (finishers).
So you are playing an extra 3-drop compared to the usual T5 Sera, before even accounting for the fact that you can of-course keep playing cards on top of Summers to make an even stronger T5 and T6 playlines.
You need two effects, the Cozy Skip and the Cozy Snag. The card that's most skipable and then your 5star of the month card. Bells ringing and lights popping etc.
Haven't heard a lot of people talk about these yet but I think these three cards have potential with Pixie
- Miles Morales: Move a card and he's a 1-cost regardless.
- Proxima: When discarded you play her out for free so her having a higher cost doesn't matter.
- Swarm: Swarm getting a higher cost also doesn't matter since you'd ideally discard it and get two 0-cost copies back.
Greedy players might want the flashiness of swapping a Wasp's cost with a Magneto but even swapping a 6-cost with Miles/Proxima is a 2 energy discount which is still massive since discounted cards have historically been great in Snap.
Also, Mockingbird could potentially go into Discard. The 0-cost copies of Swarm didn't start in your deck so if you discard Swarm even a single time and play out both copies Mockingbird is a 3/9. Colleen Wing and Silver Samurai allow you to target discard Swarm from your hand. Silver Samurai potentially even combos well with Stature, so you could set up a turn 6 where you play a 1-cost Stature, a 3-cost Mockingbird and a 2-drop of choice. If you get more than 2 Swarms out that gets even better. Add Moon Girl to the mix for even more discounts on Mockingbird - and to get another copy of Mockingbird/Stature/Proxima. Will it be a good deck? Probably not if you go as greedy as I'm suggesting but I think there's a fun middle ground.
Alex!!! I loved Mass Effect series. I do feel after 3 it started shifting. But agreed with Cozy on ME2 being just perfect in terms of everything! Loved hearing this part of the snapchat
Hope + Deadpool + Venom unfortunately doesn't work that way I believe. Deadpool does give you that extra energy, but Hope needs to stay on the battlefield in order for Hope's ability to proc.
Deadpool gives energy?
You just need it to proc twice to do broken things. Placing Deadpool and eating it with venom procs it twice
No. With the way things like Nico and Forget and the stones work, destroyed or not her ability will still proc. Playing her into Deadpool plus venom does give you the extra energy. Then she's gone.
@@Ryuuk00Nico and Forge still work because they’re on reveal abilities. The closest comparison is Angela because she’s a triggered ability. If you bounce Angela with Beast her ability doesn’t trigger because she’s not on the board. Venom on Hope’s lane won’t trigger her ability because she’s not on the board anymore.
@@jordanherget4453 she's not an ongoing so we'll see
It's a great month to not have any spotlight caches 💀
Did Alex just become my favorite? Talks about Thane and read the books? Yeah, he's my new guy
Here's hoping they come out with a SHIELD bonus. Something like having 2 agents out summons a quinjet to the board.
Naw. I think cards like Mockingbird, Miles Morales, Stature are the bonus they are giving. I doubt they will do the traditional style bonuses like that. But.... Who knows what year three will bring.
Hope gives us hope to play her uncle Havok no problem. Even there is Sandman, Sunspot gonna be BIG with those unspent enegy.
It also makes a good duo with his grandpa, Evolved Cyclops
Thanks for the video and the information. Lots of interesting cards coming out this season.
Nice work in the trailer for the next pass. 👍(Suspicious🤔🤔)
Cozy mentioning Little Big Planet made me unbelievably happy! Been so long since I've heard someone mention it
At work listening to this on the job on the floor thank you Alex and Cozy for the weekly content. Can we get a react series with you and Alex
At 14:30 you mention ramping into Infinaut using Hope, this actually is possible using War Machine and I see it as one of the most insane lines next season. T3 Hope->T4 War Machine->T5 Infinaut->T6 anything really
Edit; you said it much later 😅
opponent ProfXs on 5 and Chi on 6
Hope Summers is a must have, Pixie looks fun even if she might not be great plus I still need MMM and Spider-Ham from that week, and War Machine is going to lead to some crazy shenanigans. Mockingbird looks really solid but I won't have the keys to get her and Cannonball seems alright but very skippable.
For surfer i use wakanda as base +psylock +shaw+wong not the highest power lanes but fun af
The thing with Pixie is that you can no longer predict your opponent's play. That's golden
Btw, Alex didn't see the playline for Surfer and Hope Summers, which is fine (!) he's more of a hands-on tinkerer, but here it is:
Turn 3 Hope Summers
Turn 4 any card on Hope
Turn 5 = 6 Power for 2x3 cost, 1 played on Hope Summers
Turn 6 = 7 Power for 3 cost + Absorbing Man (or even Iron Lad if that's your deck)
You are 50/50 to have Hope on Turn 3 so it's not like you're building the whole deck around her, and unlike Sera she's a 3-cost.
Crystal is sub-sub-optimal but in a Hope + Surfer deck, her value definitely increases. (I still don't want to give my opponents a card, I'm just saying that this is one deck she is not outright terrible in.)
Ravonna, Hope in a lane by herself, Green Goblin in that lane on 4, on turn five play Hobgoblin in that lane a cloack on another. Turn 6 move hope to closcks lane and galactus on the lane hope was in. Might be fun to pull off.
So what happens when they just move the goblins elsewhere??
You're gonna need an alt play but Ironfist into Shuri, into Galactus has always been fun.
@@chrissalih4382 I guess you lose heck idk. What does it matter?
This is probably gonna be the most insane meta shift since Loki got released.
Thanks Cozy for keeping Jean Grey in mind. My girl needs more compatible synergies
I’ve been playing a Shanna/Dazzler kind of a deck for the past week. Making use of that beautiful Artgerm variant for Dazzler and Mockingbird is gonna be so welcomed in that deck.
You can play Mockingbird on turn 1 theoretically if you get the rocks all on your side from that 1 location lol
48:00 MASS effect Thane
Hopefully the rapidly expanding pool of cards help keep things from feeling stale
Is there a line we're you can play
brood ..absorbing..black bolt.... then turn 6.stature..mocking or patriot etc
Goose could also be a Monster of a Card with War Machine to stop your Opponent to drop some 4/5/6 Costs card with high power on the Goose Location
I don't think enough people are talking about this but you guys kinda touched on it on this episode.
Is it possible to gain and maintain collection complete anymore without being at least a dolphin? I have planned my collection-complete (approximate) date since like November. I bought very carefully, skipped weeks where I knew the card would be back in caches soon. Next week with Man-Thing I finally get there but with the extra release each month this year it's cost me SO MUCH extra in tokens. I have spent 6k a week for almost a month now but have the keys ready for next week though. Might have enough for the following week.
I buy every season pass, have done since late 2022, I buy a few cash bundles too. I now find that I genuinely need to get lucky to maintain collection completion into April. Before these recent changes I should be ready to stay complete for months if not permanently post-March.
I get that they want to make it hard but I think they may have made it impossible without buying an expensive bundle every month.
Love the show guys, watch/listen every week since the first. Keep it up. 😁
Just seen that Drewberry made a video on the subject. Still would love to hear you two chat about it though.
If you Pixie your Wasp and Yellow Jacket, and have MMM out. Would JF pull out 4 cards?
Mockingbird was such a slept on card and I'm glad she's finally getting talked about.
Sure. She's a boring card. No deck is going to build around Mockingbird. But at 4/9 she's on par with Cull Obsidian that trades 1 Power to be immune to Shang-Chi. At 3/9 she's a stronger and risk-free Gladiator. And she keeps going. Only getting better and better the more a deck exploits her ability. She's hands down, without contest, the best stat/Power stick (so far) in Marvel Snap.
I would be surprised if Mockingbird doesn't get nerfed for that reason. Even at 5/8 or 5/7, the decks that would take her all the way down to 0 by just playing normally (e.g. Thanos/Moongirl/Dino/Agents/Patriot) are going to get her Power for free regardless. It's the decks that can reduce her down to 4-3-2 cost without trying or just by throwing in a Squirrel Girl as their 1-cost and looking to play Mockingbird for sheer value... That might make her problematic at such high Power.
I forgot to check the store the day that killmonger variant came out... will haunt me the rest of my life😂
I’m definitely going to need to pick and choose my cards this month.
Question for the mail bag: what would you guys think of a card that had the ability to pull the card that bounced back into your hand back on the board? So when falcon sends the 1 cost cards into your hand that card would grab it and pull it to its location
I missed somewhere how War Machine's card ability fits his character.
the thing about Iron-Man based cards is always about aiding a card
Iron-Heart and Hulk Buster aids your card's power
Iron-Man and Iron-Lad aids your deck combo
Rescue and War Machine aids pinning down a location
If pixie is a hit, everyone’s gonna run Mobius, which kind of kicks the legs out from under Mockingbird
lol mobius do nothing against pixie
@@Leinbaum it works WITH pixie
March looks awesome but I think Im just going to try and pull for Pixie then save for the White Widow week to grab her and that Momoko Nico Minoru.
Also Hope Summers into a High Evo surfer deck with Jean and Cyclops just sounds fun.
Zabu, Hope summers, warmachine on hope, and either Infanaut on 5 or 2 “4s” or a 4 a 2 and a maw. Warmachine is gonna love hope. Hell you can Infanaut behind a Goose
so now that the pool of series 4 and 5 is so oversaturated will they finally do series drop or will it still be pay 2 play 😮
Aye cozy, I also was conflicted when I came across that kill-monger 😂
thank you for the patriot list. i was able to get infinite with it despite not having a lot of time to play this month
Honestly considering the statline and effect of hope a small buff to electro would be justified. 3/4 power electro would propably not be a problem where every ramp card is either 5 or 4 power
You could use the new season pass card to force out Sera on turn four. You would need a 0 drop, but it could work
Does Mockingbird cost 0 if you play 5 infinity stones? The text for Thanos says to shuffle the infinity stones into your deck meaning they don’t start there right?
My question... can infinaut play on turn 6 if u dont skip after playing war machine
Cosmo is going to see a lot more usage starting this week. :D
5:45 Alex i bursted out in laughter so hard, exactly my humor. And how you said it, love you! :DDD
War machine absolutely looks like a card that will be nerfed to the ground 2 weeks after release just like elsa or wearwolf by night or even worse
Cozy, War Machines ability fits his character cause ... hes a war machine and lets you assault each lane no limitations
think about it, he turns ur hand into a metaphorical war machine
I am a new player (cl 470) do you guys think I should rush to level up to try and get modok? Or do I not have enough time?
My ratings:
Hope Summers: Super strong, 4 or 4.5
Pixie: Hard to evaluate but.. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say 2.5-3.5 in that range.
Mockingbird: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5.
Cannonball: Realistically he's a 2
War Machine: Extremely strong. Easily 4.5.
Let's see what ends up happening. This season will be craziness.
Edit: In terms of my power level rankings, I'll say: Mockingbird 1 (could be War Machine too), War Machine 2, Hope 3, Pixie 4, Cannonball 5.
Cozy Alex if you could choose any mutant power to have either an X-mens or your own unique power what would it be?
Cull Obsidian can be played anywhere after a War Machine too, right?
Forget who mentioned this but just imagine if you will playing a very simple Pixie Destroy deck with only like Zola and Knull as 6 drops and the rest just the usual 1,2,3 cost destroy cards so you just almost guarantee the Knull and Zola become low cost. They can only swap with each other or all low cost cards. And hitting each other is a very low chance.
Yeah but how big would Knull even get when your Carnage, Deadpool or Venom is me up costing 6 and being unplayable
@@peterkefalos7430 Not all of it will be that expensive, only two of the cards homie. Then you can play them late as long as it isn't on a knull lane and destroy more.
Saving keys for next month but definitely getting mockingbird and the season pass. Thanks for the amazing podcast as always😎
Mockingbird and War Machine hands down.
You can play two 3's on turn 5 with Hope and those 3s are more power than just a Sera on 5, even without counting Surfer buffs. Then on turn 6 you can play two 3s and a 2 drop.
You guys are the BEST 🤩 thanks 🙏
How you guys feel about the alioth Guardian deck to counter Hope Summers, but add JEAN GREY which counters what Hope does? Guardian and the alioth deck?
Super excited for y’all’s takes W SEASON
March is off to a great start! Pixie and Hope both feel strong, the meta is once again shaken, btw, BOUNCE IS BAAACK
I think a nasty combo with Hope Summers that yall didn't touch on was use wasp same turn to get 5 energy turn 4 and with that there's so many combos. You can pro x, or Nimrod. Just some thoughts.
I'm not Gonna lie, if cozy and Alex had a general gaming podcast I'd probably tune in each week
Yondu is going to see a massive increase in play, going to need to take out some of these cards before they can be used!
Also I love the synergy from you two. Very rare to see so much respect and diligence amongst two guys. You two are great role models for the community. Keep up the great work!
So when you guys record, what are you actually looking at when you look off to the sides? Mailbag question??
For Surfer and Hope - Hope allows 2 3 drops on turn 5 instead of just Sera, then can drop surfer + abs on turn 6. So much better imo than Sera. Still get 3 3 drops down, and Abs man on top.
i cant wait for war machine hes one of the characters ive been waiting to get a card besides red hulk. now if they would give me scarlet spider the og or the second one either or i will be the most happy marvel snap player.
I wish I had Beta Ray Bill because a hammer deck + Pixie sounds so fun
Hope is on my must have list, thanks to the season pass no problem. And then it will be war machine. All other weeks I will save my keys.
Thanks for another amazing video/ podcast keep up the great content ❤❤❤
2 questions
1- which one between hope and war will be nrfd first?
2- will they ever give a serious series drop?
Thanos with Hope should be nice with all moving possibilities of Jeff, stone, Vision and generate energy for big plays.
Cannon Ball is going to be pretty useful to disrupt your opponents winning lanes, he could be used in a junk deck.
My War Machine dream is Storm/Legion
INRE Pixie, you think Quicksilver and Domino will have a place?
I have played since release. I think, of allllll the things that have made me crazy in this game, the featured location of “the peak” was one of the worst. I totally see pixie as a mini peak bomb, and while I’m excited for cards that flip things on their head, I think this could get really old really fast.
Thank you for shouting out about card acquisition, guys. It's not negative to be a constructive critic. I ❤ the idea of including the pool 4 card.
Cozy do you think Pixie is too chaotic to be in a Mister Negative deck? As a Negative enjoyer I would like to know your thoughts.
I bet, they will be nerving Hope to be a 4/4 or 4/3 on the 2. OTA after release.
I'm free to play, have all series 3, and only missing about 15 Series 4-5. Each month I gain four to five new cards, so I'm even gaining ground on the Series 4-5.
So while I don't get everything while they are brand spankin' new, I still eventually get everything. So don't feel bad for us! It's a fine consolation for spending literally nothing on an awesome game.
In Mass Effect I absolutely agonized over killing the Geth, or saving the Krogan. I put my controller down and paced around my living room for like 5 minutes before deciding. I cured the Krogan…to this day I’m still not sure if I made the right decision. Sorry, I know this is a Snap video, but they brought it up!😂
Mobius/rogue is never leaving my deck this whole season
The Hope Summers, War Machine, Infinaut and another 6 cost on turn 6 line is going to be ridiculous.
This month is stupid good. With mocking bird and war machine are probably must pull cards. Pixie is yo random for me but I can see she can be great.