How To Ride Flat Corners On Gravel Without Your Front End Washing Out
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Having your front end washing out while turning on a flat gravel corner can be super intimidating because it only takes a split second to go from riding on two wheels to smacking your head on the ground, wondering what in the world just happened!
In this part 1 of flat corner training, I'm going to show you 1 simple dirt bike cornering technique that will give you more comfort and confidence on flat turns so your front tire has more traction and won't slide out easily.
It starts with your body position, and if you're used to riding a street bike, mountain bike, or other machine, it's important to form a POSITIVE riding habit when dirt biking as soon as possible.
Once you start forming BAD habits, that's when it's more challenging and takes longer to improve your trail riding skills and confidence.
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Disclaimer: Dirt biking can be dangerous if you don't respect the bike or terrain. This video shows you tips to help keep you safer as well as improve your riding technique and skill so that you stay in control while riding. I, Kelley Fager from Motocross Hideout, am not held responsible for a crash resulting in an injury from trying these techniques. Please use proper dirt bike riding gear to help prevent an injury.
What have you tried to prevent your front tire from washing out on flat or gravel corners?
Flat Corners Part 2 on "Rear Tire Sliding Out": ua-cam.com/video/mh_k_o6gC6U/v-deo.html
I don't lean with the bike. I sit on top and lean the bike under me. Better control at both ends of the bike.
I just rip the gas and drift, sometimes a little too hard but usually I’m ok.
What bike do you ride?
"Usually" being a key word here.
lol. My kind of dude.
@@2004Burrishe rides all of them.
@@2004Burris rmz250 with a vortex, dual injector, yoshimura, porting and high comp, but I’ll ride anything I can get my leg over!
It’s called drift in dirt biking. I see old guys on the circle flat track ripping faster than you can believe. An I’m talking 60-70 years old. Watch for yourself here on UA-cam. #Flat Circle Track
In flat tracking we build a tripod between your inner foot, your front wheel and the outer peg (kind of lock in your out leg on the bike and counter balancing the out peg). You sit as far forward as possible on the tank, lean the bike into the corner and apply pressure to the outer peg (this is super important). Eventually you will begin to feel the front of the bike being extremely stable with the rear following the ‘tripod’. You can also steer with the rear by breaking traction of the rear when increasing throttle.
Very helpful video, thanks. Should have seen this earlier, dohhh
Thank You Very Much For Sharing 👍
Brilliant...
This is actually pretty difficult especially at higher speeds
Nice '85 CR500 :)
I'm not much of a vintage bike guy, but that thing is pretty sweet!
@@MotocrossHideout Thank you!
Reach for the front fender with your inside foot. This will put your weight in the right position. This is why MX racers put their foot out in corners, not for dabbing.
And they break they knee that way
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about @@Gniggaaa
Historically speaking, your take has been spot on. However, if you watch the newer breeds of kids coming in or already having broken through to the pros within the last several years, you'll see a lot of them heavily minimizing doing so.
There are various reasons for it that are obvious, but I think the underlying non-obvious one is that they have figured out a new technical skill of body positioning, to where they are able to streamline energy conservation & traction, while simultaneously minimizing the risk of injury with how they're doing it now.
And it's not slowing them down in any way. Or they wouldn't be doing it. I think it's very situational specific, depending upon the limitless variables of any particular corner on a track.
Some scenarios require that straight out leg, as high & as far as they can to try to reach higher than the front brake caliper.
@@thespeedracer5772Yeah foot out is the old school way, and a bit slower, generally. Also a bit of a waste of energy.
Part of it is new bike geometry & ergonomics.
End of the day though, it's whatever works best for you. If you get through the corner the fastest (times, not subjective), with the least amount of energy used, you're winning. Past that, what it looks like, or what other people think, doesn't matter.
Is it old school if Eli Tomac and Jett Lawrence still use it?
"It's hard to lose the front end when you're on the gas...." Kenny Roberts Too much weight on the front combined with off throttle position is common as well. Drive through the corner...doesn't mean WFO (although if you can...) just a bit of throttle will do the job increasing as bike becomes upright on exit.
Great video for new riders. I haven’t been on many gravel roads, not many in my area. 2023 KLR 650 owner.
Ya and a lot more factors to like tire type and air pressure. Than sag adjustment and where the front forks are sitting in the triple clamps. And do you even have the right springs in the bike
Thank you for this tip
Welcome 😊
Good advice for beginners. It also helps a lot when you push the outsided knee into the tank/radiator guard, no matter if you stand or sit.
My 2 cents on this conversation: when you lower your speed in preparation for the curve, , either closing the throttle, going into a lower gear or using the brakes or all of the above, the weight transfers to the front wheel and it likely even larger than what you get from moving your body to the front of the seat. That's the moment when you countersteer and as the bike leans, you get on the throttle. On your video, go back and look, the moment your bike went faster and more balanced through the curve was when you got on the throttle and stayed on it throughout the curve on a gradual acceleration mode. THAT'S WHAT WILL KEEP YOUR MOTORCYCLE BALANCED THROUGH A GRAVEL CURVE. In my humble opinion, of course.
Thanks for sharing. Yep, I get what you're saying :)
You're right about the weight transfer often making more of a difference.
With that said, if I keep my weight back, the front tire is more likely to wash out - mainly when entering the corner and before the apex or accelerating point.
Would this apply to loose sand as well (should you choose to not stand)?
Good question. I would say yes, but you might not need to put quite as much weight forward as gravel.
You generally don't need as much weight on the front tire in soft sand, but if you keep your weight back and the front end starts to wander or knife on you then you're probably too far back.
As far as standing, I would sit as long as it's not a whooped out corner that would buck me off the seat, if that makes sense.
As a dual sport rider, I often come across well-traveled dirt roads ...and these are usually covered in some form of loose rock. Negotiating any curves is always a scary challenge because of exactly what you spoke of in your video. I can't wait to try out this technique. I came upon your vid as just part of the random selections UA-cam does based on my previous viewing choices. This vid was great! And I also checked out the follow on vid on keeping your rear wheel in control. This isn't just for "dirt bikers" ...it's also for us dual sport types too!
Yep, for sure :)
Thanks for watching, and please let us know how it goes after trying out!
Ive washed out a few times. It sucks. Lol
Yes. Yes, it does.
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good video
Thanks, Steve :)