Trying to learn too many languages at once. I tried to learn Russian at the same time as Polish. I got really confused doing both at the time and it kinda hurt my learning. I ended up putting Russian on the back burner for later since I came to my senses and realised that it was too much all at once
My first mistakes was bragging about learning Japanese when I only at the beginning and not being humble enough when learning. Learning languages takes time and dedications, wish to you all reaches fluency in the language that you have chosen
My three mistakes were; thinking its easy, telling everyone, and not using my time correctly. I don’t regret these and I will never regret them because now I’m learning Korean, and I avoided these mistakes and it’s wayyy easier. To anyone reading this, keep your language learning a secret, if you tell your family/friends they will only put you down.
yikes - I think that depends on your friends and family. My friends and family have basically never put me down for learning Swedish or French, or any other skill. But yes if people are going to put you down or make fun of you, then keep it a secret from those people, sure.
@@anarki777 same, I was up at 7am and honestly I'm so tired and want to go back to bed. But I get the logic of getting stuff done asap, just need to get going!
i'm one of those onliney adhd people who read a ton as a kid and can't find the motivation as an adult. my girlfriend had a favorite book series she wanted me to read, and i spent like two months stalled on the first book. i then resolved to read an hour first thing every morning, and immediately actually made that progress. maybe won't work for everyone but i do think chipping at those longer-term projects (whether it be reading books or learning languages, where skipping a single day isn't a problem, but then you find yourself skipping every day) by putting it first thing in the morning is a good try for a lot of us harder-to-motivate people!
"For ten years I didn't think I was a morning person, until I started getting up in the morning, and I realized I was a morning person, I'd just never been awake to experience that." Brilliant.
I was never a morning person until I had a job with a 6am shift. Now I have the house to myself in the early morning but can't stay up past ten without becoming a zombie.
Just for my own notes. Watch the video for awesome explanations. 10. To think there is an end date for fluency. 9. Too much Duolingo 8. Have too much conversations without enough input 7. Pay for tutor if possible; not just use language partner 6. Try to understand using similar dialects 5. Kids material is not easier to understand. There is no logic. 4. Not reading things interesting to you or assume things you are interested are too hard. 3. Not prioritizing language learning for the da 2. Set hour goal. 1. Not let anyone told you what you want.
The most realistic language channel on YT. No pretentiousness. No BS. Honesty within himself and realism in the world of learning. THIS is what a person who truly wants to help others looks like, instead of someone looking to make a quick many bucks. Kudos my Aussie language mentor and thanks you!
My main mistake was putting off mass input for too long. I think that spending the first few months focusing on mastering high-frequency vocabulary and understanding sentences structures was beneficial and definitely was my first big step in getting better. But there comes a point where you need to move from intensive study to extensive study, and I should have started extensive reading/listening and mass input much sooner than I did, because once I finally got around to it it made a huge difference in helping me start overcoming the intermediate plateau.
Same for me. I think for my L3 I'll include mass input pretty much from day one. Waiting until I'd learned 5-10K words and x amount of grammar rules led me to the really disheartening situation where, when I started watching/listening to native content in real-time, I couldn't understand 90% of what was said -- but would then see in transcripts/subtitles that I did actually know most/all of the words. Any possible burnout/fatigue with diving too deep too soon is a much easier problem to correct than coming at it so backwards again.
@@sandwichbreath0 No matter how much words you knew that was inevitably going to happen when you started listening to the natives. Even if you have a vocabulary that is larger than that of a native speaker, if you have never listened to an average native conversation, you will not be able to understand anything.
Mass input means extensive reading and listening. Intensive reading and conscious study can't be considered massive input. Mass input learning strategy is listening (or extensive reading) to hours of content that was meant for native speakers every day.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 That's what I mean, I never did mass input back then. I did heaps of reading, but all my listening was in lessons. Being new to language learning, I assumed natural speech was the same as the lessons, just sped up. My rude awakening came when I finally moved on to TV/movies. That's what ultimately led me to mass immersion.
Having too high expectations was a huge mistake for me. You really need to be realistic when you set goals. Dont think you will be fluent any time soon, esp. if you dont commit thousands of hours to the language.
I think it's important to realise that language learning isn't hard, in that nothing of it is truly impossible to do at any point, but what makes it very difficult to accomplish is that it involves a long-term commitment to actually achieve your goals in that language, and so it's more an exercise in determination than any of its individual components. Also, it can be pretty hard to know what works and what doesn't when you're learning a new language for the first time, making the experience all the more daunting.
@@narayana8249 I've seen some contemporary polyglots claiming that the two first foreign languages are the most difficult ones to master, after that it gets easier...
It's like you are behind the car pushing and all you can see is the ground below so you don't know if/when the mud ends. Mud mud mud. You are asking yourself, why am I doing this, this mud never ends, is this the same rock as before? am I actually moving at all? The ground changes so slowly you don't even realize pushing has been easier lately. Then you look back and realize how much ground you have covered.
At first my Spanish was basic (por favor, hola, adiós) but now es bien, yo hablo con personas de españa y México, es dificil que conprendo mucho con personas de españa pero yo aprendo, yo ayuda personas quien no comprendo un poco
I’m not learning Spanish, but I’ve had some interactions with it enough for me to understand 60% of what you wrote. Either that or just loanwords. At some point in the future, I might want to learn Spanish, but in the present, Japanese is my main focus.
@@theblackryvius6613 translation: it's good, I talk with people from Spain and Mexico, it's difficult to understand much from people from Spain but I'm learning, I help people who don't understand a little
@@sneak1677 i'm trying to learn Spanish, i'm still a noob xD, (somehow tho i understood the 2 first sentences of your comment) do you have any advice/sources to learn Spanish?
THANKS for mentioning MANGO Languages! It's nto sexy, doesn't seem to get lots of attention. BUT one in the U.S. many public libraries have it as FREE for patrons- you sign up and use it at home. And I find it da#n good! It has color coding so you can really see word order compared to your L1 language. It includes speaking mostly, and has the automated repetition system where you are quizzed oh "spaced repetition." It's my primary way of learning.
"Adults' material has inherent logic in them". Jeez, after only about 10 videos, you make more sense to me than anyone I have ever listened to. Truly and completely. I am a philologist. I have been addicted to a Catalan soap opera for months now, as there is nothing else as logical, practical, and dense in the kind of language one really must master in order to successfully participate in everyday communication.
Waking up in the morning was the best thing I've done for my language learning. The mistake I made early on was spending too much time with early grammar instead of getting quick exposure to a lot of it. It's like trying to draw details of a scene before blocking out everything with circles, rectangles and cylinders. Sketch it out by covering a ton of grammar quickly.
That's a key point, and as a professional artist that is the only way I can approach painting something, I think that's absolutely the best way to learn almost anything, get a quick overview of all of it and once you have a vague understanding of the entire structure, the larger low resolution patterns, then you will grasp the smaller rules quickly because they fit in to a larger picture and it makes immediate sense. I'm learning German, and I noticed that the more I learned about grammer with Babble the more questions I had, and the slow drip feed of rules was not helpful. I'm doing much better now that I'm just focused on input and I have a vague idea of the different sentence cases that are actually used, as opposed to only knowing about a few of them. Despite the attempt of babble to link the new grammar to a kind of context, it is still a tunnel vision approach to learning.
The main mistake I made was not doing a lot of listening practice (my target language has strictly been Korean for 3 and a half years). I watched maybe 4 K-Dramas that I liked on repeat here and there, but I still should've listened a lot more. Thankfully though it's not a HUGE problem, and it's relatively easier for me these days because I try listen to Korean every single day for at least an hour and a half or more. Another mistake I made 2 and a half years in was wanting to be perfect and make perfect native sentences. I don't even have to explain how that's a mistake, it's so obvious to why. 😅
My mistake was focusing on learning strictly from textbooks and having poor listening skills. Also, being nervous to speak Korean outloud. My family already knew I was studying it but if they were around, I wouldn't speak because I was nervous about sounding off. Now I'm doing pimsleur speaking comprehension and watching dramas for listening comprehension and I'm already improving a lot more. I think textbooks make the learning process too structured and feel like a classroom. I think I learn better when it's more interactive.
Reading something of interest is key! I first started reading Harry Potter when I was first advised by my teacher to read books in English and when I look back at it I don't understand how I managed to get through it. Now after learning English for years I still struggle with calling myself fluent because I still know there are so many more nuances to learn.
My first mistake was in starting to learn my first foreign language. Now learning languages consumes lot of time. It is like bottomless barrel. And the fact is: I still suck it speaking and listening
Language learning doesn't need to take a lot of time. Think about the things the majority of people either waste time on to. Use that time to learn a language even for 10 minutes a day every day. Or integrate language learning into things you already do. For example, watch, watch UA-cam videos in your target language instead of English, or listen to the radio/ a podcast on your way to work. That will improve your listening for sure. As for speaking, talking to yourself is helpful, and with the internet its impossible to not find someone who speaks the language your are learning
I'd agree with all these. Another mistake or two I made: Approached the learning method from a conscientious angle, trying "to learn" it in an academic manner. With my second language I've found a more immersive approach more effective. 2) related to the point above, concentrate on volume of input and don't try to become too advanced too quickly. By staying at your level for longer, you acquire the language, like a child would, rather than learn it.
English is my first language with Portugese and Spanish tied for 2nd and 3rd let me explain. I took 4 years of spanish in highschool, then I moved to Brazil for 2 years. I had 6 weeks of intense language Study. I had full immersion 6 hours a day in class 5 days a weeks, plus an extra hour of study on my own all 7 days. Spanish only being halfed learned then trying to learn Portuguese was a unique experience. I felt like i had to forget Spanish to learn Portuguese. When I finally got to Brazil it took me about 3 months for it all to click then I finally understood Spanish and Portuguese, it felt like once Portuguese clicked I remembered Spanish again. So I became "fluent" in both about the same time. I didn't realize I could speak Spanish until I was talking to a Spanish speaker in Brazil and like 3 minutes in realized I was understanding him through Portuguese and then speaking back in Spanish. I agree that fluency is a moving goal post because If I had know how well I'd speak 3 months in I couldn't have believe it. Here I am 4 years later I can't believe how much better I was 2 years in than 3 months, and how much better I am 4 years later. I Want to learn Japanese but the problem for me is I always feel like I have so much Spanish and Portuguese to learn that I have a hard time jumping in 😂
I speak the same languages as you do. It’s always important to keep Spanish and Português very separate in your mind as you’re probably aware. One of my biggest challenges is to make sure I do not speak “Portuñol” I’m definitely still pushing to learn much more in both these beautiful languages. 😅
I'm studying a language at school but it's not very satisfying for me (because it's in school, it's at a very low level), which is why I'm studying another language on my own at the same time. I have a very good ear for languages and they're also completely different (from grammar to letters) so it's not too confusing....
If you want to learn something, don't use school (unless it's college, uni or a tutor), go to the internet, I do it for my languages y ahora yo hablo español bien (and now I speak Spanish well)
@@sneak1677 I meant that studying a language is a requirement (I'm in high school...), but thanks for the tip😅 The language I'm learning alone is Spanish, actually, so that's really cool
That last part where you mentioned how numerous polyglots script there videos is so important and shouldn’t be looked over. When I started learning French I would constantly go back and forth with Spanish as well because I wanted to be multilingual like all of these polyglots when I should of focused on just one. Because of these polyglots scripting and labeling their videos, “I speak 13 languages,” it is severely damaging the newbies of language learning since they don’t have any prior experience.
I’ve been learning Hebrew about a year and a half now and I’m just now getting to the point that I can have a conversation. Learning a language is fun 😁 This is my first Language I’ve learned so excited to get to that higher level
@@jadeashlee9664you my friend are a great person for not giving up on the language u want and actually learning it masterfully,I congratulate u for that.I also wanna be like that,wish me luck.
I am so thankful that I started to learn German with a tutor first. It really made things more serious and I feel that I've actually learned quite a bit in the 9 months that I've been learning so far, 1 lesson a week. Duolingo and Babbel are just not good enough for me. My tutor gives me books and other resources that she has and is very encouraging. It's expensive but absolutely worth it.
This is great. It’s so refreshing to find a channel with someone who is earlier on in the language learning journey, and not already like 5 languages in. I’m particularly focused on getting to native/near native in my third language (Russian) while still working on my second (Spanish). It’s insane how many hours of dedicated work it truly takes to get to a near-native level. Sure, basic conversation is possible in months, but understanding poetry and jokes and rap music and learning/remembering obscure words like “grayish brown ” or “frolic” or “bell bottoms” takes such an obscene amount of time. I heard that the average high school grad (in the US, I believe) has like 60,000 words in their vocabulary when they graduate. I’ve been living in Central America for almost five years, and I can’t imagine how many years it will be before I reach that sort of level in Spanish, and Russian could take decades, assuming I want to maintain that Spanish level. Also, for anyone considering living in a country for immersion, be prepared to be very intentional in your learning, because it will NOT come automatically, and having even a handful of people who speak your native language living nearby can have a devastating impact on your quest for fluency. You can be stagnant for YEARS at intermediate level this way. Anyways, thanks for the video and the suggestions! Russian has been overwhelming me a bit lately as I consider how far I am behind in it and how long it took me to get to my current level in Spanish, which has made it harder for me to want to prioritize it. Just gotta keep at it day in and day out year after year, I guess, and definitely gotta get better at doing it in the morning.
So true about there not being an end date! Understanding and accepting that trying to achieve "fluency" was going to be a life long journey actually kind of made me feel more relaxed about my learning, like it took the pressure off or something
I make sure to get a minimum of 1 hour of French every day before work. That way no matter what happens or not matter burnt out / busy I am later in the day, I still get my language learning in.
I think the hour at which you do your language learning is highly dependent on your habits. For me, language learning is like a craving, and I'm always excited to do up to three hours of listening, reading, and flashcards after work. I can never get engaged in the morning, not for work, nor for language learning. Mandarin is my second foreign language, and the same way I learned English, even though it is a professional goal of mine, I always feel like it's a fun thing I do in my free time.
Your videos are always a good wake up call to some bad habits I noticed I started doing on my language learning. The part about studying in the morning was a big hit hahah I started to create so many excuses... This video was great to remind me why I’m studying French and why it should be a priority. I started using Busuu and had one class on Italki because of your videos too and I loved it! Thank you so much and keep up the great work :)
I've been learning 3 foreign languages. English is my first foreign language and right now my level is C1 but my mistake back then when I was a kid was taking too much classes. My second foreign language is Spanish and my mistake was using too much Doulingo+ watching spanish series with English subtitle from the begining+ reading pure grammer too early, before making a strong vocabulary core+ not having a daily routine. The third one that i'm learning currently is German. I tried to fix all the mistakes I made with English and Spanish and right now i'm trying to learn 6k german words, intermediate grammer, watching youtube videos and listening podcasts to get the sense of the language. Now I think watching series isn't helpful for me, until B2 level. But when I started learning I made another mistakes too. I tried reading Herr der Diebe when I was just start learning+ tried speaking with native speakers when I knew too little German. Now that i'm concentrating on learning vocab and short sentences, I see i'm making progress much faster. I should try to count hours as you said. I like learning new methods and concepts on the way of learning anything. I always make new mistakes until there will be much less things to be corrected. Thanks for the videos and salud!^^
Good video. I'm at an intermediate level in my second language. I've come to the realisation that although I spent time learning new words, I didn't spend enough time learning new phrases and sentences that I can use regularly. I'm currently rectifying that now.
I’m coming to that realization right now with Chinese. I’m currently studying HSK4 but only recently realized how many gaps in my learning I have from HSK2-3 😞
I love what you said about hours-based goals. I’ve really been trying to get my listening comprehension in Ukrainian up to a higher level, and going about it the traditional way, the one talked about in the language learning community, of having achievement-oriented goals just hasn’t been working. Working at it for a certain of number of hours will help a lot more, I think. Thanks for the advice!
One kids show that’s actually extremely helpful for a2 and b1 learners though is Peppa Pig! It’s on UA-cam in a billion different languages. The original British version is actually designed as educational content for little kids to learn to talk and you hear so many basic words and structures being used. Was my life savior for me when learning Cantonese and had no beginner material to listen to.
I agree with just about all of this but my studying is very all encompassing. I really wanna know Spanish in full, and I've been doing pretty good for the short time that I've been studying it. But I think that's because I incorporated it into everything and study. And really, I think that's all it really boils down to. Study. Learn. Listen. Use.
This video really intrigued me. I’ve been stuck in a higher-intermediate level plateau of Brazilian Portuguese for probably a year now and can’t seem to jump to an advanced bracket. Like you, I have a lot of language exchange conversations with native friends, however I never really progress. I’m always using the same words and remain in my comfort zone. I pick up maybe 5-10 new words each conversation, but never am able to commit them to memory. I lost motivation a while back, but want to change my ways and focus. Any advice?
I think one thing is the more advanced you get, the harder it is to advance more. You have to learn more words, constructions etc, easy enough, but you can't forget any of the old ones. So you need to listen, read, and speak even more to keep the old stuff active; where does the time needed come from?. Just as a concert pianist practices several hours a day, a high level learner needs more practice. That said, there probably is a way, but I am a B2 myself for a couple of years.
I totally agree with all your points except the one about language partners. It depends. For me I try to look for someone who is a) an experienced language partner b)community tutor or teacher who wants to learn another language. I have found that these people are really happy to use resources they already have for lessons to teach you in exchange for the conversation but I guess it depends how well you get on... good video :)
Establishing tangible goals is so important. Your mood can change daily, even with the weather, so it's never a great idea to try to "feel" fluent. Personally I found my German improved massively, as did my feeling of understanding German, when I set myself the target of reading a specific, fairly advanced novel, and working my way up and through it.
Here is a thing I like to do to improve my spanish: I bought a couple of Asterix Comics in spanish (I am between B1 and B2 I think). Read it through, noted all vocabularies I didn't know or couldn't instantly translate on little sheets (were about 200). Each week I'd take one of those sheets with me to work and go through it ~twice a day, but only about 5 at a time (depending on how hard they are to me) Then I read the comic again until the page I'm done with those vocabularies. This way I repeat them even once again, but with the important context which makes it easier to understand and remember.
I started at the beginning with English(I'm Italian) and I didn't remember literally anything of English Language from school, I didn't remember grammar, words and obviously I couldn't speak/reading/listening. So, I started with an italian-english book, and I finished it, then I started with another book of grammar, and another and so on. After having done a lot of grammar, I was still unable to speak fluently, and I looked for a teacher/professor online and I had been speaking, just speaking, for weeks. In the meantime I had started spanish too, which was easier than english(Italian and Spanish are quite similar) and with russian(which is the language that I am studying every day) I have took the DELE C1 in Spanish, but I do not have the same level in English I presume, though I listen every day to podcast/audiobooks in English. I have made a lot of mistakes, I chose professors who weren't really prepared or interested in my learning, I have tried to speak without a solid vocabulary, I thought I could handle several languages at the same time(months ago I was studying English, Spanish and Russian at the same time), but you know, I have never considered these things mistakes. I think that in language learning, experience makes a crucial difference. If you know how to start, which books you should pick up, if you are aware when you could speak and when you need just to study and listen Well, it's a huge difference between you and someone else, and you could develop this mindset throughout mistakes and the comparison between different languages. For example, while with English and Spanish it was easy to remember words(words in the long run make the difference between an educated person and someone who just speaks the language without criterion), with Russian it was nearly impossible remember words at the beginning, because of the different alphabet and letters that in Russian are pronounced in a totally different way. So I started writing as much as possible, in order to get confident with cirillic alphabet, but it took a very long time, 15 months at least. But, as I said, every mistake that you made will give you a new way of thinking if you pay attention, or in other words, if you really want to learn the language. As always, thank you for your videos, your channel and Luca Lampariello's channel are the best for language learning. Ps: sorry for my English, I haven't been writing for a long time :/
Mistake 3 about the morning is on point. Every time I delay language learning for the night, I find myself barely able to concentrate, or not in the mood to learn, so on, while every time I study in the morning I feel energised and excited.
if it is a priority to you, it makes much more fun ;) thanks for these 10 mistakes, i see you have carefully thought about yourself and i think you're very selfreflected. i'm currently trying to get russian into my brain, and it's much more fun, the more time i'm able to put in.
Thank you for a very helpful program. I am studying Hebrew with Duolingo. The high repetition is good for me because reading and writing in Hebrew takes a lot of practice. Erich from New Zealand
My Japanese has made many leaps in 2020 alone, more specifically the second half of the year, and I contributed a lot of it to you (also Matt vs Japan for specific info on Japanese). Making it such a priority to the point where when I’m at work I am using my SRS app to hammer in vocabulary, watching dramas in Japanese, speaking with my long distance girlfriend in Japan. It has made me so happy to see the progress. And if about 6 months could’ve made this much difference, I’m dying to see what it’ll be like by the end of this year. I thought I was fluent until you helped me regain my humility. Thank you.
You're really good at making these videos. They're appreciated by all of us! You pass on great information. I like the early morning idea and will have to start making that a priority. I think my biggest hangup is knowing what to do, how to start. I liked your review of Ouino and am considering it for the structure. I did play around in the trial and two things that really popped for me was in the vocab section. They used the word in a sentence and spoke that sentence both normally and then slow. I was quite amazed how much that helped me pronounce and apply the word. I'm working on French for my first language. One thing I notice about the language is that it seems to have a lyrical rhythm. You can tell if you're saying it right because it will 'sound' right. At least that's been my experience. Anyway, thanks for the few frames of your language learning log. It's good to see some sort of ideas of how to spend the study time. Thanks again for all your time making these videos! I look for them often!
I just started watching you because you popped up by the UA-cam algorithm I think because I watch Steve Kaufman a lot. Anyway good info. I’m tempted to leave spanish when I’m only maybe at a B1 level and go to German. But i really want to be good at spanish so I’m gonna keep going. Definitely a mistake I don’t wanna make.
Trying to learn using book reading and the like is so much more difficult when you're trying to learn a language like Chinese or Japanese; you can do it but you essentially have to have some tool open that allows you to draw all the characters and then look them up, which can take absolutely ages and really ruin any fun you're having with the material
I'm about 3 months into what I call my polyglot journey. I attempted German in middle school and studied Spanish in high school, but I do not count those as I did not know anything about language acquisition. So far, I haven't noticed many major mistakes yet. I just more or less watch videos like these and tweet my study habits. Of course, the reason I haven't realized my mistakes is because I'm not at a high enough level. I just hope I do not come to regret the choices I am making now.
Spot on! I like this video, and the idea behind it. Lots of super useful info. And i fully agree, getting up a little earlier for languages has been great, and you're right language first and everything gets done, languages last, and they don't get done all the time.
That point about doing it in the morning. That shit is damn true. It has been 2 weeks since I decided to Duolingo Russian during night and guess what, in 2 weeks I have not once practiced Russian on Duolingo.
This is awesome! You're videos encouraged me to quit doing things to just get my hours in, but to instead spend quality hours doing what actually helps me learn. If that means 1 hour of flashcards in addition to my other methods of study... So be it.
I am just casually watching and apart of playing duolingo not learning any language (I am aware it's not learning, but that is how I got to watching youtube videos like this one) Anyway, I am now at the tip concerned with dialects and I just wanted to tell people who might be learning german: really don't bother with "I want to understand what a native speaker is able to understand" because as a native german speaker I also struggle with bavarian and some other dialects of the german language. So I am walking evidence that "native speaker" can be quite a rough quality to compare to (my german is almost as bad as my english).
Oh now I am at mistake #5 and thats interesting, because my experience is somewhat different... I read a dutch children's book and it worked for me. Now idk if it helped me much, but I enjoyed it. Maybe the main advanrage was its shortness... Interestingly I enjoyed reading Dutch more than English, even though I was exposed to English much longer (in school, via internet...)
You're so original and concise. Thank you for your videos! I'm enjoying watching all the way to the end for new information. You have a fresh take on everything, and I enjoy it!
I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a few years and I have attempted to learn it a couple times but I usually don't make much progress... I am trying again now and I want to try different approaches, which includes getting advice from actual language learners (crazy idea, I know). I already have several new ideas that I've gotten from your videos so I wanted to say thank you! :)
Snyggt jobbat! Just so you know, some norwegian dialects are super difficult to understand as a native swedish speaker. Also, I live in the north of Sweden and have problem understanding my fellow Sweds down south. Keep up the good work! Svenska är svårt språk, även för svenskar! :)
Jag är från Skåne och ibland behöver jag prata Engleska i vår huvudstad.. Och mina föräldrar är inte ens härifrån så jag har ingen bred dialekt direkt..
My mistake when learning my second foreign language (French) and then my third one (Latin) was to assume that I do not need to learn this thing properly, I will come back to it later. And anyways, either it is masculine or feminine, it is not that much different (in fact it is) and passé composé or imparfait, it still sounds almost the same, so you just murmur it somehow. All wrong. Fight hard to get the proper gender from the day one, it matters a lot later. And although everything sounds similar in French, exactly for that reason you MUST learn it properly to make the minimal distinction in sound. And off course, you will have to come back to grammar things again and again, but when the time to learn it properly is now you should just do it. Because next time you will need to learn properly something next.
Personally I just find Duolingo fun and easy to follow, almost like a game, it's pretty effective at giving you a glimpse at several languages, but I understand that it's not nearly as good if you want to excel at any particular language, I did try Pod101 in the past but the free version hasn't got any tests, which makes it really hard to keep track of what you remember and what you don't. Is toil leam Duolingo. Tha fios agam chan eil Gàidhlig agam fhathast, ach tha mi a' tuigsinn aon fhacal no dhà. Chan eil fios agam if it's eneuch tae bruidheann Gàidhlig ann an Alba thoch.
I'm learning Czech and Duolingo is one of the few language-learning apps/sites that feature it. I make my own cards on Anki too, but I feel like Duolingo lets me notice the patterns between declensions and male/female/neuter sentences. Of course I personally learn best in the classroom and with workbooks anyway
@@RedHeadWolf117 I use Duolingo for Japanese and I find this is exactly the benefit - I notice patterns in the language, especially in complicated sentences that I don't think I'd notice (or would gloss over) in other methods. I get that duolingo is not perfect and I understand the objections, but I find myself instinctively knowing the right structure for sentences without really knowing why. The main problem with it is that I ignore my other study aids (such as Anki decks), because I want to keep my score up.
I read Ronja Räubertochter (that’s the German name) when I was 10/11 in my native language and it’s really hard to read because it’s a lil bit older and the sentence structure is quite advanced...
Absolutely loved your analogy of how starting to read a book is like pushing a car through mud. I can definitely relate. While it can be a little daunting at first, reading material I am actually interested in has done absolute wonders for my reading ability. I struggled reading children's fiction but am able to read non-fiction (Guns, Germs and Steel, and Sapiens etc) much much much easier than I expected. My biggest mistake when learning my first foreign language (Chinese) was neglecting tones and focusing too much on doing well in exams and not not spending enough time actually speaking. As for counting hours, for me personally I find that it can be a little redundant sometimes. For me it is easy to fall into the trap of saying that I've "studied" for an hour without really effectively studying per se. If I have a checklist I am able to concretely assess whether or not I have achieved what I set out to achieve. For me I guess it's kinda of quality vs quality.
Hi! Great video 👍 I agree with you 100% percent on every single point! Especially on getting tutor early on, and doing what you feel works best for you! Sometimes I see in the comment section that people disagree with you - mostly on either spending money or duolingo, but I really think they are missing the point. I feel that your channel / your thought process is generally geared towards somewhat serious language learners, and in that case I’m with you 100% (as someone who speaks 3 languages). Your advice would definitely speed up the learning process for any language 👍 Right now I’m learning German very casually, as in to substitute the time I otherwise would spend scrolling instagram😅In this case Duolingo has been great, because I know there are better options out there, but they just aren’t accessible to me - in the sense that when I use Duolingo, I know my alternative won’t be another language learning practice, but just Instagram. Sorry for mumbling on but I just feel the language community is so divided over Duolingo but it doesn’t even have to be..
Another cool video! Great job, man and thanks for sharing all that. I can relate to many of the mistakes you mentioned. Just one suggestion. It would have been great if you had listed the mistakes in the description plus the minute in the video where you discuss every single one of them. Cheers!
This is 3rd time installing Duolingo learning Spanish and French. I feel like it takes up my time. Also, it doesn’t give resources in the tips. The streaks are exhausting and it’s one of the reasons why I hated it! Thank you for the tips
Your mistake number 1 was also mine with German and Russian and I ended up quitting on Russian. Will pick it up again later, but I am learning Italian at the moment.
The biggest mistake a begginer can do in everything is not enjoying the process. For years I've tried to stick up to sports I even was a combat officer though I never could cuz I hated it. And I thought I had a problem with being obligated to a task. Eventhough I was learning language atm for like 5 years basically everyday even when I had only couple of minutes a day. Its all about doing what you love, then you should learn the rest
Yes, good shout out for Mango Languages. I found it way better than Duolingo. I tried learned Tuvan with it, but my only complaint is that it was only an introductory course.
I made a similar mistake by trying to learn Lithuanian around the same time I had been learning Swedish. I simply can't focus on both and I'd get them confused. I'm glad to be back focusing 100% on Swedish. I would have to say my biggest mistake has been just not sticking with it for long periods of time. I take too many breaks.
What mistake did you make with your first foreign language (can be one of these or anything else!)
Trying to learn too many languages at once. I tried to learn Russian at the same time as Polish. I got really confused doing both at the time and it kinda hurt my learning. I ended up putting Russian on the back burner for later since I came to my senses and realised that it was too much all at once
My first mistakes was bragging about learning Japanese when I only at the beginning and not being humble enough when learning. Learning languages takes time and dedications, wish to you all reaches fluency in the language that you have chosen
My three mistakes were; thinking its easy, telling everyone, and not using my time correctly. I don’t regret these and I will never regret them because now I’m learning Korean, and I avoided these mistakes and it’s wayyy easier. To anyone reading this, keep your language learning a secret, if you tell your family/friends they will only put you down.
Volume over rigour.
Wanting to do more vocab and more lessons instead of fully understanding and integrating it to your speech.
yikes - I think that depends on your friends and family. My friends and family have basically never put me down for learning Swedish or French, or any other skill.
But yes if people are going to put you down or make fun of you, then keep it a secret from those people, sure.
My #1 mistake: Watching videos _about_ language learning instead of actually studying!
“That would be a waste of time”
I'm just gonna gooooooo😳
This is not a mistake if you learing English =)
I feel so called out xD
I feel called out
"I was always a morning person. I just wasn't awake to experience that" that is pure gold, mate!
It is a joke but honestly it's true. If you stay up until 3am then you can't be a morning person even if on the inside, you are. That was me.
@@daysandwords - I'm awake. It's 9:30am. I'm not a morning person.
@@anarki777 same, I was up at 7am and honestly I'm so tired and want to go back to bed. But I get the logic of getting stuff done asap, just need to get going!
This is me as well, I always want to curl back up in bed when I wake up but if I actually get up I do so well
i'm one of those onliney adhd people who read a ton as a kid and can't find the motivation as an adult. my girlfriend had a favorite book series she wanted me to read, and i spent like two months stalled on the first book. i then resolved to read an hour first thing every morning, and immediately actually made that progress. maybe won't work for everyone but i do think chipping at those longer-term projects (whether it be reading books or learning languages, where skipping a single day isn't a problem, but then you find yourself skipping every day) by putting it first thing in the morning is a good try for a lot of us harder-to-motivate people!
"For ten years I didn't think I was a morning person, until I started getting up in the morning, and I realized I was a morning person, I'd just never been awake to experience that." Brilliant.
I was never a morning person until I had a job with a 6am shift. Now I have the house to myself in the early morning but can't stay up past ten without becoming a zombie.
Just for my own notes. Watch the video for awesome explanations.
10. To think there is an end date for fluency.
9. Too much Duolingo
8. Have too much conversations without enough input
7. Pay for tutor if possible; not just use language partner
6. Try to understand using similar dialects
5. Kids material is not easier to understand. There is no logic.
4. Not reading things interesting to you or assume things you are interested are too hard.
3. Not prioritizing language learning for the da
2. Set hour goal.
1. Not let anyone told you what you want.
Oh thank you
Thanks! I was looking for this, lol
Thank you! I was just about to rewatch to create this list :D
You’re so realistic about learning languages and I love it !
@ドライ oh vraiment, permettez moi d'en douter.
@ドライ
non tu ne l'as pas
The most realistic language channel on YT. No pretentiousness. No BS. Honesty within himself and realism in the world of learning. THIS is what a person who truly wants to help others looks like, instead of someone looking to make a quick many bucks. Kudos my Aussie language mentor and thanks you!
My main mistake was putting off mass input for too long. I think that spending the first few months focusing on mastering high-frequency vocabulary and understanding sentences structures was beneficial and definitely was my first big step in getting better. But there comes a point where you need to move from intensive study to extensive study, and I should have started extensive reading/listening and mass input much sooner than I did, because once I finally got around to it it made a huge difference in helping me start overcoming the intermediate plateau.
Same for me. I think for my L3 I'll include mass input pretty much from day one. Waiting until I'd learned 5-10K words and x amount of grammar rules led me to the really disheartening situation where, when I started watching/listening to native content in real-time, I couldn't understand 90% of what was said -- but would then see in transcripts/subtitles that I did actually know most/all of the words. Any possible burnout/fatigue with diving too deep too soon is a much easier problem to correct than coming at it so backwards again.
@@sandwichbreath0 No matter how much words you knew that was inevitably going to happen when you started listening to the natives. Even if you have a vocabulary that is larger than that of a native speaker, if you have never listened to an average native conversation, you will not be able to understand anything.
@@sandwichbreath0 How did you have massive input without listening to the native content? Were you just reading?
Mass input means extensive reading and listening. Intensive reading and conscious study can't be considered massive input. Mass input learning strategy is listening (or extensive reading) to hours of content that was meant for native speakers every day.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 That's what I mean, I never did mass input back then. I did heaps of reading, but all my listening was in lessons. Being new to language learning, I assumed natural speech was the same as the lessons, just sped up. My rude awakening came when I finally moved on to TV/movies. That's what ultimately led me to mass immersion.
Having too high expectations was a huge mistake for me. You really need to be realistic when you set goals. Dont think you will be fluent any time soon, esp. if you dont commit thousands of hours to the language.
Thanks for being honest, unlike all the youtube poliglot gurus who make language learning seem way more easier than it really is!
I think it's important to realise that language learning isn't hard, in that nothing of it is truly impossible to do at any point, but what makes it very difficult to accomplish is that it involves a long-term commitment to actually achieve your goals in that language, and so it's more an exercise in determination than any of its individual components. Also, it can be pretty hard to know what works and what doesn't when you're learning a new language for the first time, making the experience all the more daunting.
I just saw someone post a video that they became fluent in Spanish in one month they're a native English speaker
@@narayana8249 I've seen some contemporary polyglots claiming that the two first foreign languages are the most difficult ones to master, after that it gets easier...
It's easy to start but difficult to stay
It's like you are behind the car pushing and all you can see is the ground below so you don't know if/when the mud ends. Mud mud mud. You are asking yourself, why am I doing this, this mud never ends, is this the same rock as before? am I actually moving at all? The ground changes so slowly you don't even realize pushing has been easier lately. Then you look back and realize how much ground you have covered.
Yes, that's definitely the case with my Swedish.
At first my Spanish was basic (por favor, hola, adiós) but now es bien, yo hablo con personas de españa y México, es dificil que conprendo mucho con personas de españa pero yo aprendo, yo ayuda personas quien no comprendo un poco
I’m not learning Spanish, but I’ve had some interactions with it enough for me to understand 60% of what you wrote. Either that or just loanwords. At some point in the future, I might want to learn Spanish, but in the present, Japanese is my main focus.
@@theblackryvius6613 translation: it's good, I talk with people from Spain and Mexico, it's difficult to understand much from people from Spain but I'm learning, I help people who don't understand a little
@@sneak1677 i'm trying to learn Spanish, i'm still a noob xD, (somehow tho i understood the 2 first sentences of your comment)
do you have any advice/sources to learn Spanish?
THANKS for mentioning MANGO Languages! It's nto sexy, doesn't seem to get lots of attention. BUT one in the U.S. many public libraries have it as FREE for patrons- you sign up and use it at home. And I find it da#n good! It has color coding so you can really see word order compared to your L1 language. It includes speaking mostly, and has the automated repetition system where you are quizzed oh "spaced repetition." It's my primary way of learning.
"Adults' material has inherent logic in them". Jeez, after only about 10 videos, you make more sense to me than anyone I have ever listened to. Truly and completely.
I am a philologist. I have been addicted to a Catalan soap opera for months now, as there is nothing else as logical, practical, and dense in the kind of language one really must master in order to successfully participate in everyday communication.
Thank you!
Waking up in the morning was the best thing I've done for my language learning.
The mistake I made early on was spending too much time with early grammar instead of getting quick exposure to a lot of it. It's like trying to draw details of a scene before blocking out everything with circles, rectangles and cylinders. Sketch it out by covering a ton of grammar quickly.
I definitely have to start waking up in the morning again haha.
That's a key point, and as a professional artist that is the only way I can approach painting something, I think that's absolutely the best way to learn almost anything, get a quick overview of all of it and once you have a vague understanding of the entire structure, the larger low resolution patterns, then you will grasp the smaller rules quickly because they fit in to a larger picture and it makes immediate sense.
I'm learning German, and I noticed that the more I learned about grammer with Babble the more questions I had, and the slow drip feed of rules was not helpful. I'm doing much better now that I'm just focused on input and I have a vague idea of the different sentence cases that are actually used, as opposed to only knowing about a few of them. Despite the attempt of babble to link the new grammar to a kind of context, it is still a tunnel vision approach to learning.
The main mistake I made was not doing a lot of listening practice (my target language has strictly been Korean for 3 and a half years). I watched maybe 4 K-Dramas that I liked on repeat here and there, but I still should've listened a lot more. Thankfully though it's not a HUGE problem, and it's relatively easier for me these days because I try listen to Korean every single day for at least an hour and a half or more.
Another mistake I made 2 and a half years in was wanting to be perfect and make perfect native sentences. I don't even have to explain how that's a mistake, it's so obvious to why. 😅
Exactly the same here!
"You want the best possible input at all times". Well said. Duolingo is not acceptable lol
For real. I never use Duolingo. I really don't like it.
IMO, Duolingo is fine as a start, to see if you are interested enough to go further, but move on as quick as possible.
My biggest mistake was focusing on output too early. Input is far more important.
When I started learning Chinese, from day one, I had a language partner. I she helped me a lot. So long as you are getting input as well, it is fine.
My mistake was focusing on learning strictly from textbooks and having poor listening skills. Also, being nervous to speak Korean outloud. My family already knew I was studying it but if they were around, I wouldn't speak because I was nervous about sounding off. Now I'm doing pimsleur speaking comprehension and watching dramas for listening comprehension and I'm already improving a lot more. I think textbooks make the learning process too structured and feel like a classroom. I think I learn better when it's more interactive.
Reading something of interest is key! I first started reading Harry Potter when I was first advised by my teacher to read books in English and when I look back at it I don't understand how I managed to get through it. Now after learning English for years I still struggle with calling myself fluent because I still know there are so many more nuances to learn.
I’ve been learning English for 5 years in school now and I never understood Irish/Scottish people and I just understood that guy and I’m so happy ☺️
My first mistake was in starting to learn my first foreign language. Now learning languages consumes lot of time. It is like bottomless barrel. And the fact is: I still suck it speaking and listening
Well just focus on the one you want to get good at!
Language learning doesn't need to take a lot of time. Think about the things the majority of people either waste time on to. Use that time to learn a language even for 10 minutes a day every day. Or integrate language learning into things you already do. For example, watch, watch UA-cam videos in your target language instead of English, or listen to the radio/ a podcast on your way to work. That will improve your listening for sure. As for speaking, talking to yourself is helpful, and with the internet its impossible to not find someone who speaks the language your are learning
@CalebThank you. I do not know what to count as the second language.
lol immersion always helps try MIA
@@animeandstuff5377 MIA is an app?
I'd agree with all these. Another mistake or two I made: Approached the learning method from a conscientious angle, trying "to learn" it in an academic manner. With my second language I've found a more immersive approach more effective.
2) related to the point above, concentrate on volume of input and don't try to become too advanced too quickly. By staying at your level for longer, you acquire the language, like a child would, rather than learn it.
English is my first language with Portugese and Spanish tied for 2nd and 3rd let me explain. I took 4 years of spanish in highschool, then I moved to Brazil for 2 years. I had 6 weeks of intense language Study. I had full immersion 6 hours a day in class 5 days a weeks, plus an extra hour of study on my own all 7 days. Spanish only being halfed learned then trying to learn Portuguese was a unique experience. I felt like i had to forget Spanish to learn Portuguese. When I finally got to Brazil it took me about 3 months for it all to click then I finally understood Spanish and Portuguese, it felt like once Portuguese clicked I remembered Spanish again. So I became "fluent" in both about the same time. I didn't realize I could speak Spanish until I was talking to a Spanish speaker in Brazil and like 3 minutes in realized I was understanding him through Portuguese and then speaking back in Spanish. I agree that fluency is a moving goal post because If I had know how well I'd speak 3 months in I couldn't have believe it. Here I am 4 years later I can't believe how much better I was 2 years in than 3 months, and how much better I am 4 years later. I Want to learn Japanese but the problem for me is I always feel like I have so much Spanish and Portuguese to learn that I have a hard time jumping in 😂
I speak the same languages as you do. It’s always important to keep Spanish and Português very separate in your mind as you’re probably aware. One of my biggest challenges is to make sure I do not speak “Portuñol” I’m definitely still pushing to learn much more in both these beautiful languages. 😅
I'm studying a language at school but it's not very satisfying for me (because it's in school, it's at a very low level), which is why I'm studying another language on my own at the same time. I have a very good ear for languages and they're also completely different (from grammar to letters) so it's not too confusing....
If you want to learn something, don't use school (unless it's college, uni or a tutor), go to the internet, I do it for my languages y ahora yo hablo español bien (and now I speak Spanish well)
@@sneak1677 I meant that studying a language is a requirement (I'm in high school...), but thanks for the tip😅
The language I'm learning alone is Spanish, actually, so that's really cool
@@Ace-xo9oe excellent, in American terms I'm about to start high school myself
That last part where you mentioned how numerous polyglots script there videos is so important and shouldn’t be looked over. When I started learning French I would constantly go back and forth with Spanish as well because I wanted to be multilingual like all of these polyglots when I should of focused on just one. Because of these polyglots scripting and labeling their videos, “I speak 13 languages,” it is severely damaging the newbies of language learning since they don’t have any prior experience.
I’ve been learning Hebrew about a year and a half now and I’m just now getting to the point that I can have a conversation. Learning a language is fun 😁 This is my first Language I’ve learned so excited to get to that higher level
האם את מדברת עברית שוטפת עכשיו?
@@ronshlomi582 כן עכשיו אני יכולה לקיים שיחות בעברית 😉
@@jadeashlee9664you my friend are a great person for not giving up on the language u want and actually learning it masterfully,I congratulate u for that.I also wanna be like that,wish me luck.
I am so thankful that I started to learn German with a tutor first. It really made things more serious and I feel that I've actually learned quite a bit in the 9 months that I've been learning so far, 1 lesson a week. Duolingo and Babbel are just not good enough for me. My tutor gives me books and other resources that she has and is very encouraging. It's expensive but absolutely worth it.
This is great. It’s so refreshing to find a channel with someone who is earlier on in the language learning journey, and not already like 5 languages in. I’m particularly focused on getting to native/near native in my third language (Russian) while still working on my second (Spanish). It’s insane how many hours of dedicated work it truly takes to get to a near-native level. Sure, basic conversation is possible in months, but understanding poetry and jokes and rap music and learning/remembering obscure words like “grayish brown ” or “frolic” or “bell bottoms” takes such an obscene amount of time. I heard that the average high school grad (in the US, I believe) has like 60,000 words in their vocabulary when they graduate. I’ve been living in Central America for almost five years, and I can’t imagine how many years it will be before I reach that sort of level in Spanish, and Russian could take decades, assuming I want to maintain that Spanish level.
Also, for anyone considering living in a country for immersion, be prepared to be very intentional in your learning, because it will NOT come automatically, and having even a handful of people who speak your native language living nearby can have a devastating impact on your quest for fluency. You can be stagnant for YEARS at intermediate level this way.
Anyways, thanks for the video and the suggestions! Russian has been overwhelming me a bit lately as I consider how far I am behind in it and how long it took me to get to my current level in Spanish, which has made it harder for me to want to prioritize it. Just gotta keep at it day in and day out year after year, I guess, and definitely gotta get better at doing it in the morning.
I'm not sure if I have 60k vocab lmao
So true about there not being an end date! Understanding and accepting that trying to achieve "fluency" was going to be a life long journey actually kind of made me feel more relaxed about my learning, like it took the pressure off or something
I make sure to get a minimum of 1 hour of French every day before work. That way no matter what happens or not matter burnt out / busy I am later in the day, I still get my language learning in.
"not letting external factors decide what I should be doing and why" 11:40 so important in every aspect of our lives
I think the hour at which you do your language learning is highly dependent on your habits. For me, language learning is like a craving, and I'm always excited to do up to three hours of listening, reading, and flashcards after work. I can never get engaged in the morning, not for work, nor for language learning. Mandarin is my second foreign language, and the same way I learned English, even though it is a professional goal of mine, I always feel like it's a fun thing I do in my free time.
Your videos are always a good wake up call to some bad habits I noticed I started doing on my language learning. The part about studying in the morning was a big hit hahah I started to create so many excuses... This video was great to remind me why I’m studying French and why it should be a priority. I started using Busuu and had one class on Italki because of your videos too and I loved it! Thank you so much and keep up the great work :)
I've been learning 3 foreign languages. English is my first foreign language and right now my level is C1 but my mistake back then when I was a kid was taking too much classes. My second foreign language is Spanish and my mistake was using too much Doulingo+ watching spanish series with English subtitle from the begining+ reading pure grammer too early, before making a strong vocabulary core+ not having a daily routine. The third one that i'm learning currently is German. I tried to fix all the mistakes I made with English and Spanish and right now i'm trying to learn 6k german words, intermediate grammer, watching youtube videos and listening podcasts to get the sense of the language. Now I think watching series isn't helpful for me, until B2 level. But when I started learning I made another mistakes too. I tried reading Herr der Diebe when I was just start learning+ tried speaking with native speakers when I knew too little German. Now that i'm concentrating on learning vocab and short sentences, I see i'm making progress much faster.
I should try to count hours as you said. I like learning new methods and concepts on the way of learning anything. I always make new mistakes until there will be much less things to be corrected.
Thanks for the videos and salud!^^
Good video. I'm at an intermediate level in my second language. I've come to the realisation that although I spent time learning new words, I didn't spend enough time learning new phrases and sentences that I can use regularly. I'm currently rectifying that now.
I’m coming to that realization right now with Chinese. I’m currently studying HSK4 but only recently realized how many gaps in my learning I have from HSK2-3 😞
This is my favorite language learning channel. I come here when I'm discouraged.
Dam!! I love this guy so much!!! So matter of fact!! You are better than these UA-camrs that give you false hopes.
I love what you said about hours-based goals. I’ve really been trying to get my listening comprehension in Ukrainian up to a higher level, and going about it the traditional way, the one talked about in the language learning community, of having achievement-oriented goals just hasn’t been working. Working at it for a certain of number of hours will help a lot more, I think. Thanks for the advice!
Audiobook + kindle may be painful at first, but really does work. You will know how long and audiobook is, so you can count your hours too.
Did you say Ukrainian? Wow, I'm so excited somebody is learning my native language out here !! Please don't give up on it)
@@jpsjbod Great tip, thank you!
@@smaintfaint5080 Yes! It's a beautiful language and I wish there were more people learning it. I'll keep doing my best!
One kids show that’s actually extremely helpful for a2 and b1 learners though is Peppa Pig! It’s on UA-cam in a billion different languages. The original British version is actually designed as educational content for little kids to learn to talk and you hear so many basic words and structures being used. Was my life savior for me when learning Cantonese and had no beginner material to listen to.
I agree with just about all of this but my studying is very all encompassing. I really wanna know Spanish in full, and I've been doing pretty good for the short time that I've been studying it. But I think that's because I incorporated it into everything and study. And really, I think that's all it really boils down to. Study. Learn. Listen. Use.
This video really intrigued me. I’ve been stuck in a higher-intermediate level plateau of Brazilian Portuguese for probably a year now and can’t seem to jump to an advanced bracket. Like you, I have a lot of language exchange conversations with native friends, however I never really progress. I’m always using the same words and remain in my comfort zone. I pick up maybe 5-10 new words each conversation, but never am able to commit them to memory. I lost motivation a while back, but want to change my ways and focus. Any advice?
I think one thing is the more advanced you get, the harder it is to advance more. You have to learn more words, constructions etc, easy enough, but you can't forget any of the old ones. So you need to listen, read, and speak even more to keep the old stuff active; where does the time needed come from?. Just as a concert pianist practices several hours a day, a high level learner needs more practice. That said, there probably is a way, but I am a B2 myself for a couple of years.
So true about the audiobooks and the way they help to read a book! Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really helpful and inspiring!
As someone trying to relearn a lot of the languages I forgotten I appreciate any and all tips!
I totally agree with all your points except the one about language partners. It depends. For me I try to look for someone who is a) an experienced language partner b)community tutor or teacher who wants to learn another language. I have found that these people are really happy to use resources they already have for lessons to teach you in exchange for the conversation but I guess it depends how well you get on... good video :)
I made great friends learning Swedish, it's just not really worth the time I had to put in to speaking English.
@@daysandwords yeah I get what you mean, but it's good when your starting out. Could you make a video on what it is like learning 2 languages at once?
Establishing tangible goals is so important. Your mood can change daily, even with the weather, so it's never a great idea to try to "feel" fluent. Personally I found my German improved massively, as did my feeling of understanding German, when I set myself the target of reading a specific, fairly advanced novel, and working my way up and through it.
Here is a thing I like to do to improve my spanish:
I bought a couple of Asterix Comics in spanish (I am between B1 and B2 I think).
Read it through, noted all vocabularies I didn't know or couldn't instantly translate on little sheets (were about 200).
Each week I'd take one of those sheets with me to work and go through it ~twice a day, but only about 5 at a time (depending on how hard they are to me)
Then I read the comic again until the page I'm done with those vocabularies.
This way I repeat them even once again, but with the important context which makes it easier to understand and remember.
All right! I'm doing that as well with German, great vocab to learn and much more interesting
@@Dannykhc sehr cool (: viel Erfolg!
I started at the beginning with English(I'm Italian) and I didn't remember literally anything of English Language from school, I didn't remember grammar, words and obviously I couldn't speak/reading/listening.
So, I started with an italian-english book, and I finished it, then I started with another book of grammar, and another and so on.
After having done a lot of grammar, I was still unable to speak fluently, and I looked for a teacher/professor online and I had been speaking, just speaking, for weeks.
In the meantime I had started spanish too, which was easier than english(Italian and Spanish are quite similar) and with russian(which is the language that I am studying every day)
I have took the DELE C1 in Spanish, but I do not have the same level in English I presume, though I listen every day to podcast/audiobooks in English.
I have made a lot of mistakes, I chose professors who weren't really prepared or interested in my learning, I have tried to speak without a solid vocabulary, I thought I could handle several languages at the same time(months ago I was studying English, Spanish and Russian at the same time), but you know, I have never considered these things mistakes.
I think that in language learning, experience makes a crucial difference.
If you know how to start, which books you should pick up, if you are aware when you could speak and when you need just to study and listen
Well, it's a huge difference between you and someone else, and you could develop this mindset throughout mistakes and the comparison between different languages.
For example, while with English and Spanish it was easy to remember words(words in the long run make the difference between an educated person and someone who just speaks the language without criterion), with Russian it was nearly impossible remember words at the beginning, because of the different alphabet and letters that in Russian are pronounced in a totally different way.
So I started writing as much as possible, in order to get confident with cirillic alphabet, but it took a very long time, 15 months at least.
But, as I said, every mistake that you made will give you a new way of thinking if you pay attention, or in other words, if you really want to learn the language.
As always, thank you for your videos, your channel and Luca Lampariello's channel are the best for language learning.
Ps: sorry for my English, I haven't been writing for a long time :/
Mistake 3 about the morning is on point. Every time I delay language learning for the night, I find myself barely able to concentrate, or not in the mood to learn, so on, while every time I study in the morning I feel energised and excited.
Came here to watch this video after watching 2h of a Swedish tv series and my brain felt like it had a mild aneurysm
if it is a priority to you, it makes much more fun ;)
thanks for these 10 mistakes, i see you have carefully thought about yourself and i think you're very selfreflected.
i'm currently trying to get russian into my brain, and it's much more fun, the more time i'm able to put in.
Thank you for a very helpful program. I am studying Hebrew with Duolingo. The high repetition is good for me because reading and writing in Hebrew takes a lot of practice. Erich from New Zealand
7:02 I'm actually really looking forward to a more comprehensive video on this topic👍👍
My Japanese has made many leaps in 2020 alone, more specifically the second half of the year, and I contributed a lot of it to you (also Matt vs Japan for specific info on Japanese). Making it such a priority to the point where when I’m at work I am using my SRS app to hammer in vocabulary, watching dramas in Japanese, speaking with my long distance girlfriend in Japan. It has made me so happy to see the progress. And if about 6 months could’ve made this much difference, I’m dying to see what it’ll be like by the end of this year. I thought I was fluent until you helped me regain my humility. Thank you.
I realised that I was also making some of them mistakes but you helped me a lot, sir.
I think this is the best language learning advice I've ever seen, period
Thanks man!
You're really good at making these videos. They're appreciated by all of us! You pass on great information.
I like the early morning idea and will have to start making that a priority. I think my biggest hangup is knowing what to do, how to start. I liked your review of Ouino and am considering it for the structure. I did play around in the trial and two things that really popped for me was in the vocab section. They used the word in a sentence and spoke that sentence both normally and then slow. I was quite amazed how much that helped me pronounce and apply the word. I'm working on French for my first language. One thing I notice about the language is that it seems to have a lyrical rhythm. You can tell if you're saying it right because it will 'sound' right. At least that's been my experience. Anyway, thanks for the few frames of your language learning log. It's good to see some sort of ideas of how to spend the study time.
Thanks again for all your time making these videos! I look for them often!
I just started watching you because you popped up by the UA-cam algorithm I think because I watch Steve Kaufman a lot. Anyway good info. I’m tempted to leave spanish when I’m only maybe at a B1 level and go to German. But i really want to be good at spanish so I’m gonna keep going. Definitely a mistake I don’t wanna make.
Trying to learn using book reading and the like is so much more difficult when you're trying to learn a language like Chinese or Japanese; you can do it but you essentially have to have some tool open that allows you to draw all the characters and then look them up, which can take absolutely ages and really ruin any fun you're having with the material
Like many others have said I really enjoy your no bullshit approach to language learning content. Keep up the good content!
You made me laugh when you mention Duolingo, you are absolutely right.
I'm about 3 months into what I call my polyglot journey. I attempted German in middle school and studied Spanish in high school, but I do not count those as I did not know anything about language acquisition. So far, I haven't noticed many major mistakes yet. I just more or less watch videos like these and tweet my study habits. Of course, the reason I haven't realized my mistakes is because I'm not at a high enough level. I just hope I do not come to regret the choices I am making now.
Spot on! I like this video, and the idea behind it. Lots of super useful info. And i fully agree, getting up a little earlier for languages has been great, and you're right language first and everything gets done, languages last, and they don't get done all the time.
Wow. You hit the bullseye 🎯. I highly agree with your hindsight on the process of beginning, acquiring and maintaining your languages.
Good advice, particularly with the hour based goals
That point about doing it in the morning. That shit is damn true. It has been 2 weeks since I decided to Duolingo Russian during night and guess what, in 2 weeks I have not once practiced Russian on Duolingo.
This is awesome! You're videos encouraged me to quit doing things to just get my hours in, but to instead spend quality hours doing what actually helps me learn. If that means 1 hour of flashcards in addition to my other methods of study... So be it.
The mud and car metaphor was good. I'm going to think about that one when I struggle getting myself started!
I am just casually watching and apart of playing duolingo not learning any language (I am aware it's not learning, but that is how I got to watching youtube videos like this one)
Anyway, I am now at the tip concerned with dialects and I just wanted to tell people who might be learning german: really don't bother with "I want to understand what a native speaker is able to understand" because as a native german speaker I also struggle with bavarian and some other dialects of the german language. So I am walking evidence that "native speaker" can be quite a rough quality to compare to (my german is almost as bad as my english).
Oh now I am at mistake #5 and thats interesting, because my experience is somewhat different... I read a dutch children's book and it worked for me. Now idk if it helped me much, but I enjoyed it. Maybe the main advanrage was its shortness... Interestingly I enjoyed reading Dutch more than English, even though I was exposed to English much longer (in school, via internet...)
You're so original and concise. Thank you for your videos! I'm enjoying watching all the way to the end for new information. You have a fresh take on everything, and I enjoy it!
Thank you!
I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a few years and I have attempted to learn it a couple times but I usually don't make much progress... I am trying again now and I want to try different approaches, which includes getting advice from actual language learners (crazy idea, I know). I already have several new ideas that I've gotten from your videos so I wanted to say thank you! :)
Great advice! Thank you for making this. I'm going to work with my students with these in mind this year. Obrigada! ☘
_#4 Completing the first 12 lessons before I realized I had accidentally clicked on Xhosa._
Love your channel! Honest advice and not claiming to be an expert!
Snyggt jobbat!
Just so you know, some norwegian dialects are super difficult to understand as a native swedish speaker. Also, I live in the north of Sweden and have problem understanding my fellow Sweds down south. Keep up the good work!
Svenska är svårt språk, även för svenskar! :)
Jag är från Skåne och ibland behöver jag prata Engleska i vår huvudstad.. Och mina föräldrar är inte ens härifrån så jag har ingen bred dialekt direkt..
this is great stuff, I've been learning languages for 22 years now, and this is helpful ! + you are charming
so thank you
"It's weird but it works" That hit me... Now let's make it's first topic of the day!
Your insights are so damn lucid. Thank you...
I always come to your channel for inspiration and useful information. And I'm never disappointed!! Love you, thanks! ❤️
My mistake when learning my second foreign language (French) and then my third one (Latin) was to assume that I do not need to learn this thing properly, I will come back to it later. And anyways, either it is masculine or feminine, it is not that much different (in fact it is) and passé composé or imparfait, it still sounds almost the same, so you just murmur it somehow.
All wrong. Fight hard to get the proper gender from the day one, it matters a lot later. And although everything sounds similar in French, exactly for that reason you MUST learn it properly to make the minimal distinction in sound. And off course, you will have to come back to grammar things again and again, but when the time to learn it properly is now you should just do it. Because next time you will need to learn properly something next.
Personally I just find Duolingo fun and easy to follow, almost like a game, it's pretty effective at giving you a glimpse at several languages, but I understand that it's not nearly as good if you want to excel at any particular language, I did try Pod101 in the past but the free version hasn't got any tests, which makes it really hard to keep track of what you remember and what you don't. Is toil leam Duolingo. Tha fios agam chan eil Gàidhlig agam fhathast, ach tha mi a' tuigsinn aon fhacal no dhà. Chan eil fios agam if it's eneuch tae bruidheann Gàidhlig ann an Alba thoch.
I'm learning Czech and Duolingo is one of the few language-learning apps/sites that feature it. I make my own cards on Anki too, but I feel like Duolingo lets me notice the patterns between declensions and male/female/neuter sentences. Of course I personally learn best in the classroom and with workbooks anyway
@@RedHeadWolf117 I use Duolingo for Japanese and I find this is exactly the benefit - I notice patterns in the language, especially in complicated sentences that I don't think I'd notice (or would gloss over) in other methods. I get that duolingo is not perfect and I understand the objections, but I find myself instinctively knowing the right structure for sentences without really knowing why. The main problem with it is that I ignore my other study aids (such as Anki decks), because I want to keep my score up.
Pimsleur in the background is subliminal messaging. Am already using it ! Thanks for a great video
I read Ronja Räubertochter (that’s the German name) when I was 10/11 in my native language and it’s really hard to read because it’s a lil bit older and the sentence structure is quite advanced...
Thank you, very helpful to hear from your experience
This is actually good advice.
Absolutely loved your analogy of how starting to read a book is like pushing a car through mud. I can definitely relate. While it can be a little daunting at first, reading material I am actually interested in has done absolute wonders for my reading ability. I struggled reading children's fiction but am able to read non-fiction (Guns, Germs and Steel, and Sapiens etc) much much much easier than I expected.
My biggest mistake when learning my first foreign language (Chinese) was neglecting tones and focusing too much on doing well in exams and not not spending enough time actually speaking.
As for counting hours, for me personally I find that it can be a little redundant sometimes. For me it is easy to fall into the trap of saying that I've "studied" for an hour without really effectively studying per se. If I have a checklist I am able to concretely assess whether or not I have achieved what I set out to achieve. For me I guess it's kinda of quality vs quality.
Great video! Really genuinely helpful points.
Hello! I wanted to thank you for all of your amazing videos! 😊
Your channel opened my eyes to many things about the language learning process 🌟
Great tips and advice. Thank you!
Hi! Great video 👍 I agree with you 100% percent on every single point! Especially on getting tutor early on, and doing what you feel works best for you! Sometimes I see in the comment section that people disagree with you - mostly on either spending money or duolingo, but I really think they are missing the point. I feel that your channel / your thought process is generally geared towards somewhat serious language learners, and in that case I’m with you 100% (as someone who speaks 3 languages). Your advice would definitely speed up the learning process for any language 👍 Right now I’m learning German very casually, as in to substitute the time I otherwise would spend scrolling instagram😅In this case Duolingo has been great, because I know there are better options out there, but they just aren’t accessible to me - in the sense that when I use Duolingo, I know my alternative won’t be another language learning practice, but just Instagram. Sorry for mumbling on but I just feel the language community is so divided over Duolingo but it doesn’t even have to be..
Another cool video! Great job, man and thanks for sharing all that. I can relate to many of the mistakes you mentioned. Just one suggestion. It would have been great if you had listed the mistakes in the description plus the minute in the video where you discuss every single one of them. Cheers!
This is 3rd time installing Duolingo learning Spanish and French. I feel like it takes up my time. Also, it doesn’t give resources in the tips. The streaks are exhausting and it’s one of the reasons why I hated it! Thank you for the tips
Great video. I definitely have to start looking for better input than duolingo.
Your mistake number 1 was also mine with German and Russian and I ended up quitting on Russian. Will pick it up again later, but I am learning Italian at the moment.
Fantastic video, thank you.
The biggest mistake a begginer can do in everything is not enjoying the process.
For years I've tried to stick up to sports I even was a combat officer though I never could cuz I hated it. And I thought I had a problem with being obligated to a task.
Eventhough I was learning language atm for like 5 years basically everyday even when I had only couple of minutes a day.
Its all about doing what you love, then you should learn the rest
Yes, good shout out for Mango Languages. I found it way better than Duolingo. I tried learned Tuvan with it, but my only complaint is that it was only an introductory course.
I love your channel! Thank you for sharing :)
I made a similar mistake by trying to learn Lithuanian around the same time I had been learning Swedish. I simply can't focus on both and I'd get them confused. I'm glad to be back focusing 100% on Swedish.
I would have to say my biggest mistake has been just not sticking with it for long periods of time. I take too many breaks.
thank you sir , you are truly inspiring
Mistake Number 3 had me laughing but I'm really not a morning person.
I'll still give it a try though.