If you just want to test your cable, you can buy a $10 tester that will test all 8 conductors to make sure they are working and wired in the right order. But the Klein Tools stuff is just so cool... Quite expensive, but really solid products and it's what the pros use. The crimpers are definitely worth it, you want the best crimper you can get.
The tool probably just send one packet each two seconds so that the flash is constant. Other ports on the switch will flash like crazy, but you gotta find the one that is flashing at a regular pace. That's my understanding...
While testing a bunch of old inherited patch cables with the Scout 3, a couple tested as "split pair," and I couldn't find a description of how it does that. Maybe it sends an RF signal down the cable and measures the crosstalk between pairs?
Ive been hearing mixed reviews about the recent Klein tools. I.e. that they cannot detect faulty cables. What is your take on this, and is this video sponsored?
Yo! Video was not sponsored or paid in any way, I just love their stuff and bought these myself. I haven’t heard about any quality control problems with their tools - they would fix anything under warranty if it were bad. Great brand if you can’t afford Fluke stuff 👍
I would suspect user error or misunderstanding of how the tool works. All these tools do is measure continuity… the adapter at the end is a loop back basically. They use software in the tool to add some basic additional features like length and split pair and crossover detection. This tool is a nice tool for what you pay and has a nice user interface and feel to it. The Chinese network testers are still a little clunky but with this tool pro model you can run your little network cable install business/testing just fine.
In your example with using the wall socket on one end and the other end goes into the Scout Pro 3. What if you have wall sockets on both ends, so if you had the wall socket in the garage and a wall socket in the bedroom and no exposed ethernet cable to plug directly into the port on the tool. Could you plug one of these tiny devices in your garage and then use a short Ethernet cable in the bedroom that will connect to the wall socket and the port on the tool, will the tool still print out the # of what it's connected to?
Hi. New here. Can this device can also test the ethernet ports from a router and/or modem to see if it is working as it suppose to? I've been having internet issue for quiet some time having my ISP technician test their lines. They've replaced their lines inside and outside the home not long ago, but I am still having issues. My modem is connected to a Night Hawk Netgear XR500. I've even replaced all my ethernet cables to see if that was the problem and still seem to be an issue. Thanks.
How can I identify if my jr45 jacks in my new home are set to T568A or T568B. I took a picture of one of them, but I can't tell anything from the picture. I ask this because I may have to re-do all of them (about 8 or 10) and I don't know how much spare ethernet cable I will have inside the wall. If it is not much, I have to be very careful when I wire the cables with a new and better jr45. Thank you.
Use case: A new house construction from an owner perspective, I want to test the install to make sure there are no breaks in the wires behind the walls before providing sign off. Will the starter kit of the Scout Pro do it, or do I need the test and map remotes?
Starter kit should be just fine honestly. The advanced Pro features are nice if you do this all the time or are tracing wires with unknown ends. I also have a toner I'm checking out.
@@TheNetGuy Thanks - I had a similar question as @MrOfferDJ. Hoping to run a few drops down through existing walls and was looking for a way to test them. Thanks for a clear/understandable video that isn't longer than it needs to be.
I know this is a year old already but....Licensed Low Voltage Contractor here. Your install company should provide Fluke test results, not just wire map and continuity. The Fluke DSX2-8000 will test the entire assembly for all results required to certify the runs. I point this out because continuity and wiremap are not the only issues that can plague a network. Unfortunately, unless you are a wealthy DIYer, that Fluke is cost prohibitive. For more info, look up Cat6a Certification. Don't be fooled by cheap tools that claim they certify. Trust me, or I would have bougjt one. Hope that helps.
Sir, maybe you can help me. About a month ago my PC would boot up each morning showing it was connected to the network, "fiber on1 > router > switch > pc." since than I've removed the switch. However, My PC constantly drops the Lan and goes WIFI. Sometimes I can go into the cmd and reset the Lan and reboot and it sometimes comes back to life and stays on. But I have a Roku that's hardwired and never blinks. I've replaced every cable but can't figure it out. I even did a loopback ping on the PC nic which doesn't miss a beat. Any clues?
Drivers maybe? That’s tough. If you remove the Wi-Fi profile from the machine does it stay connected? There’s a metric value in PCs that tells it what connection to prioritize. Sounds like it’s getting confused.
It tests continuity. If there's something not returning a signal it says "open" He had it in the wrong mode initially which is why everything said open. You can see him switch modes then the results pop up nearly instantly.
@gregn8461 Klein Tools VDV500-820 Cable Tracer with Probe Tone Pro Kit for Telephone, Internet, Video, Data and Communications Cables, Beige - www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-Tone-Probe-PRO/dp/B07VYN98QV/ref=asc_df_B07VYN98QV/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385112208924&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9961589861248964322&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033408&hvtargid=pla-830777640636&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=73789135330&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385112208924&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9961589861248964322&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033408&hvtargid=pla-830777640636&gclid=CjwKCAjwv-2pBhB-EiwAtsQZFKAbumBbrjT7XZfwgTmXF0mVE_GVFoo3i7haImz2qQa0MtyyTHk3xBoCnz4QAvD_BwE
Just curious, what would happen if you plugged in the coax coming from your ISP and tested it and then tested the length? Would it work? Would it disrupt service for other subscribers? I wanna try it, but I'm scared. :D
From what I’m told it sends an RF signal down the line like an antenna and measures the reflection. If it’s grounded and connected to something else like a splitter probably not much. I am surprised how hard it is to take down coax networks :)
@@TheNetGuy Right. I was hoping to measure the distance to the node. But you're right that it would probably just get to the splitter and then not get anything back, so it would error out. Or even if it got the node, it's not like the connection is open there. Still so tempted to try it...
@@QuantumBraced splitter would definitely stop the signal from passing. I have experience with professional TDR measurement equipment and have many times seen splitter if you amplify signal gain, in theory, you can go over it but measuring the end behind that becomes just a guessing game.
@@thetoothWhat is typical about that? What does that mean? That they have less nodes so your service is worse because it’s so far away? (I’m new to all this tech stuff but I’m trying to learn lol)
If you have access to both ends it can tell you which is which. If you only can see one, and need to know mid-span which is which, you’d need a tone generator.
Yes and no. It will tell you if it’s crossed or not on the cable, the end you need to fix depends on the standard you’re using. 👍. Excellent tool still.
1:18 it would have been clutch if you used miswired cables for the sake of the video to show us. Also maybe buying the toner to show us what that would’ve looked like.
@@TheNetGuy Yee good stuff brother. It helps for troubleshooting and learning the limitations of the tools prior to purchasing them for noobs like me. I bought it anyways just came in last night. Me gusta 🍻
I dont understand why you cant use hub mode on a switch/port that has POE. You can use a non POE device on a port that has POE, so why cant the tester do the same??
Voltage being sent to the tester from the poe port can damage the tester. Not sure if that's true for this specific model, but it is a thing. That'd be my guess
just started watcing this video, the very first thing i noticed is i don't like the music/ fast forward style intro. I'm genuinely only saying this because i want to help. It's abrupt, a little startling and loud. I just don't think it looks good. Everything else looks great. Just my opinion
Right, because every tech has thousands of extra dollars to spend on buying a name. There's absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money unless required by regulation or your employer to use specific tools.
The pro tester has saved my life on numerous occasions. Thank you Klein for an amazing product.
If you just want to test your cable, you can buy a $10 tester that will test all 8 conductors to make sure they are working and wired in the right order. But the Klein Tools stuff is just so cool... Quite expensive, but really solid products and it's what the pros use. The crimpers are definitely worth it, you want the best crimper you can get.
The pros use Fluke..
The blinking cable identifier should be solid lit. Easier to identify that way on a switch full of cables thats blinking like crazy.
True or even change to color from green to amber
The tool probably just send one packet each two seconds so that the flash is constant. Other ports on the switch will flash like crazy, but you gotta find the one that is flashing at a regular pace. That's my understanding...
Great info… I actually just ordered this earlier today. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks friend! It’s a great unit!
Thank you. I was looking for this comparison between the Jr and pro models.
Hub?!? It’s the 21st century man!
Old habits die hard 😜
Awesome video! I have ordered 1 Pro 3 for the team and if it works out well, will probably order a bunch more.
Thanks!
Thank you lord of the Net! Ive been scouring the net for a video on a how to before i buy this and now i know i want and need the pro one lol
The line ID plugs should really show if the cable is correctly wired too, I've yet to see another that didn't.
While testing a bunch of old inherited patch cables with the Scout 3, a couple tested as "split pair," and I couldn't find a description of how it does that. Maybe it sends an RF signal down the cable and measures the crosstalk between pairs?
Split icon illuminates if the designated wire pairs are not terminated in the
correct sequence.
@@Michael_NLBut this guy wanted to know HOW it detects split pairs, not the test result.
@@HectorFabela-k6u Correct, i seem to have misread his question!
Have you worked with the Triplett CTX1200 Network Tester
Any demos of this product?
Does it give the distance of the break?
Only other thing you didnt show that can be handy is that tester can tell you how far away the break is.
Shoot. I think I covered it live. Yeah that’s great feature!
Very nice for home networking
Just bought one, thanks mate!
Can you use the pro to test BNC connections for security cameras or only the screw on ends for cable TV?
Ive been hearing mixed reviews about the recent Klein tools. I.e. that they cannot detect faulty cables. What is your take on this, and is this video sponsored?
Yo! Video was not sponsored or paid in any way, I just love their stuff and bought these myself.
I haven’t heard about any quality control problems with their tools - they would fix anything under warranty if it were bad.
Great brand if you can’t afford Fluke stuff 👍
I would suspect user error or misunderstanding of how the tool works.
All these tools do is measure continuity… the adapter at the end is a loop back basically.
They use software in the tool to add some basic additional features like length and split pair and crossover detection.
This tool is a nice tool for what you pay and has a nice user interface and feel to it.
The Chinese network testers are still a little clunky but with this tool pro model you can run your little network cable install business/testing just fine.
In your example with using the wall socket on one end and the other end goes into the Scout Pro 3. What if you have wall sockets on both ends, so if you had the wall socket in the garage and a wall socket in the bedroom and no exposed ethernet cable to plug directly into the port on the tool. Could you plug one of these tiny devices in your garage and then use a short Ethernet cable in the bedroom that will connect to the wall socket and the port on the tool, will the tool still print out the # of what it's connected to?
Yes, exactly. A short patch cable would work great for finding and identifying connections like this.
3:25 Also, you gotta show us the buttons your pressing man! I can't tell what you're doing if you just show us the screen after you do it lol.
Is there a tester available which can show at which end of the cT 6 cable the fault is? So i dont have to change both rj45 connectors
Hi. New here. Can this device can also test the ethernet ports from a router and/or modem to see if it is working as it suppose to?
I've been having internet issue for quiet some time having my ISP technician test their lines. They've replaced their lines inside and outside the home not long ago, but I am still having issues. My modem is connected to a Night Hawk Netgear XR500.
I've even replaced all my ethernet cables to see if that was the problem and still seem to be an issue.
Thanks.
ok but can the tool detect where the actual damage is, ie 12.5 meters away from the instrument?
Yes. It has an RF generator and can detect
This is awesome - thank you!
How can I identify if my jr45 jacks in my new home are set to T568A or T568B. I took a picture of one of them, but I can't tell anything from the picture. I ask this because I may have to re-do all of them (about 8 or 10) and I don't know how much spare ethernet cable I will have inside the wall. If it is not much, I have to be very careful when I wire the cables with a new and better jr45. Thank you.
If pin 6 is orange, it’s A. If it’s green, it’s B. When in doubt wire everything in the US to B standard 👍
Great video mate
Only as good as your comment! Thanks!!
Thank you
Use case: A new house construction from an owner perspective, I want to test the install to make sure there are no breaks in the wires behind the walls before providing sign off. Will the starter kit of the Scout Pro do it, or do I need the test and map remotes?
Starter kit should be just fine honestly. The advanced Pro features are nice if you do this all the time or are tracing wires with unknown ends. I also have a toner I'm checking out.
@@TheNetGuy thank you. Best video I saw on this. Thank you so very much. Ordered. Legend. 🥳
@@TheNetGuy Thanks - I had a similar question as @MrOfferDJ. Hoping to run a few drops down through existing walls and was looking for a way to test them. Thanks for a clear/understandable video that isn't longer than it needs to be.
I know this is a year old already but....Licensed Low Voltage Contractor here. Your install company should provide Fluke test results, not just wire map and continuity.
The Fluke DSX2-8000 will test the entire assembly for all results required to certify the runs. I point this out because continuity and wiremap are not the only issues that can plague a network.
Unfortunately, unless you are a wealthy DIYer, that Fluke is cost prohibitive.
For more info, look up Cat6a Certification. Don't be fooled by cheap tools that claim they certify. Trust me, or I would have bougjt one.
Hope that helps.
Added to cart. Thanks!
This video is excellent!!! :-)
If you buy expensive tools to make your life easy, great! In my case, I charge more for the job simple.
Does Klein have a tool that can check Ethernet speed or category?
How do you perform the hub blink identifier function?
I need to record this feature separately because it rocks!
Question. If a cable like that was cut, can it tell you how far down the cable the cut might be or is?
Actually, with the distance measuring you can pick which wires it uses so YES!
if you attempt to measure it, as long as the remote isn't connected it will tell you how far down the damage is from the end you're testing
Yes, I use my $1200 Fluke for this at work, awesome such an inexpensive tester can do the same!
Sir, maybe you can help me. About a month ago my PC would boot up each morning showing it was connected to the network, "fiber on1 > router > switch > pc." since than I've removed the switch. However, My PC constantly drops the Lan and goes WIFI. Sometimes I can go into the cmd and reset the Lan and reboot and it sometimes comes back to life and stays on. But I have a Roku that's hardwired and never blinks. I've replaced every cable but can't figure it out. I even did a loopback ping on the PC nic which doesn't miss a beat. Any clues?
Drivers maybe? That’s tough. If you remove the Wi-Fi profile from the machine does it stay connected? There’s a metric value in PCs that tells it what connection to prioritize. Sounds like it’s getting confused.
@@TheNetGuy Seems the on-board nic is going bad. bought a TP link card and it's been good so far.
Super handy, thank you!
7:37 - I'm confused, so the Jr. cannot test if a cable is broken?
It tests continuity. If there's something not returning a signal it says "open"
He had it in the wrong mode initially which is why everything said open. You can see him switch modes then the results pop up nearly instantly.
Can hub mode be used while the network switch is on and active?
Yes, but it can't be on a port that has POE
Thank you!
Hub mode is essentially a data transfer speed test???? Whats the uplink speed when its in hub mode?
I believe it is to blink the hub port, to make it easier to identify the line you’re on.
Nice! Which ones was it saying were broken at the end...the ones that were steady, or the flashing numbers?
Flashing is damaged.
Will it work on 16 gauge wire for communication issues
They have some different tone generators that might be better.
@@TheNetGuy do you know a model # by chance. I’m testing mini split communication wires
@gregn8461 Klein Tools VDV500-820 Cable Tracer with Probe Tone Pro Kit for Telephone, Internet, Video, Data and Communications Cables, Beige - www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-Tone-Probe-PRO/dp/B07VYN98QV/ref=asc_df_B07VYN98QV/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385112208924&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9961589861248964322&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033408&hvtargid=pla-830777640636&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=73789135330&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385112208924&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9961589861248964322&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033408&hvtargid=pla-830777640636&gclid=CjwKCAjwv-2pBhB-EiwAtsQZFKAbumBbrjT7XZfwgTmXF0mVE_GVFoo3i7haImz2qQa0MtyyTHk3xBoCnz4QAvD_BwE
Just curious, what would happen if you plugged in the coax coming from your ISP and tested it and then tested the length? Would it work? Would it disrupt service for other subscribers? I wanna try it, but I'm scared. :D
From what I’m told it sends an RF signal down the line like an antenna and measures the reflection. If it’s grounded and connected to something else like a splitter probably not much. I am surprised how hard it is to take down coax networks :)
@@TheNetGuy Right. I was hoping to measure the distance to the node. But you're right that it would probably just get to the splitter and then not get anything back, so it would error out. Or even if it got the node, it's not like the connection is open there. Still so tempted to try it...
@@QuantumBraced splitter would definitely stop the signal from passing. I have experience with professional TDR measurement equipment and have many times seen splitter if you amplify signal gain, in theory, you can go over it but measuring the end behind that becomes just a guessing game.
I did this and it came back with 24,901 miles. Typical.
@@thetoothWhat is typical about that? What does that mean? That they have less nodes so your service is worse because it’s so far away? (I’m new to all this tech stuff but I’m trying to learn lol)
Excellent video. Does anyone know how to test poe on the pro 3? information is limited and the instruction material from Kein is rubbish.
How to I trace Ethernet cables with this?
If you have access to both ends it can tell you which is which. If you only can see one, and need to know mid-span which is which, you’d need a tone generator.
It shows which end is crossed?
Yes and no. It will tell you if it’s crossed or not on the cable, the end you need to fix depends on the standard you’re using. 👍. Excellent tool still.
1:18 it would have been clutch if you used miswired cables for the sake of the video to show us. Also maybe buying the toner to show us what that would’ve looked like.
Good call. I did just pick up the toner too 👍
@@TheNetGuy Yee good stuff brother. It helps for troubleshooting and learning the limitations of the tools prior to purchasing them for noobs like me. I bought it anyways just came in last night. Me gusta 🍻
I dont understand why you cant use hub mode on a switch/port that has POE. You can use a non POE device on a port that has POE, so why cant the tester do the same??
Voltage being sent to the tester from the poe port can damage the tester. Not sure if that's true for this specific model, but it is a thing. That'd be my guess
just started watcing this video, the very first thing i noticed is i don't like the music/ fast forward style intro. I'm genuinely only saying this because i want to help. It's abrupt, a little startling and loud. I just don't think it looks good. Everything else looks great. Just my opinion
I completely appreciate the comments. Sadly the new things are an 8 second attention span on the net. Hopefully the info was helpful at least 👍
@@TheNetGuyhonestly I was vibing the music. Everyone had their own opinion I guess but loved the video keep it up
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you didnt show actually how to use it.... wtf
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These are both junk for troubleshooting. The Fluke Microscanner 2 is the bare minimum a competent tech needs.
Right, because every tech has thousands of extra dollars to spend on buying a name. There's absolutely no reason to spend that kind of money unless required by regulation or your employer to use specific tools.